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German Stallion

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Bib, I have been behind the scenes, reading the posts and learning from what others are experincing and how you answer them. I was going to start hanging again about two months ago but got side tracked. Now I am back into the swing of things, so have some questions. I did hang a year ago for awhile but not consisitent.

I have a lot that is high..8 or 8 and 1/2. I had trouble with getting the adjustment but think I have that settled. Also the wrapping was a trouble thing, but that seems to be better now.

I started out lowering the weight I was using. I was starting out too high and my penis was not conditioned so, I started out using 5# and that worked really well. Been hanging two weeks and did 5# for three sets of 20 minutes each.

Then did some sets with 5#, incresed for one set to 10# and then back to 5#. This is all seeming good. Tonight I did a set with 5 and then a set with 10. Both sets were 30 minutes. No pain, no coldness etc.

I am seeing girth gains already, is that normal? I am not sure I am getting the fatigue issue. Should I hang more sets. I don't want to go up in weight too fast. But I don't feel any really soreness. Feels good in fact. Compared to the pain I used to have in hanging this is a really easy and good feeling.

Advise on weight and how to get the fatigue. I seem to have somewhat an erect issue. Not much, but I am not totally flaccid as I used to be. Does that make sense? I am flaccid but there still seems to be a big of girth.

I have a regular big hanger. Sure would like your advice. GS
 
GS,

Good to hear from you.

>I have a lot that is high..8 or 8 and 1/2. I had trouble with getting the adjustment but think I have that settled. Also the wrapping was a trouble thing, but that seems to be better now.<

If you need any help with this, just ask. When beginning, using low weights, is the time to learn how to do this stuff. Makes it much easier as you go up in weight.

>I started out lowering the weight I was using. I was starting out too high and my penis was not conditioned so, I started out using 5# and that worked really well. Been hanging two weeks and did 5# for three sets of 20 minutes each.<

I assume that is every day?

>Then did some sets with 5#, incresed for one set to 10# and then back to 5#.<

No. Just go up 1-2 lbs per week. If you feel you are conditioned at five lbs, then move up slowly. Do not be a hero. Hang only what you are conditioned for.

>This is all seeming good. Tonight I did a set with 5 and then a set with 10. Both sets were 30 minutes. No pain, no coldness etc.<

Try to limit your sets to 20 minutes. If you are stressing your unit whatsoever, just the stretching of the blood vessels will limit blood flow.

>I am seeing girth gains already, is that normal?<

It is not abnormal at the base. Are you seeing length gains?

>I am not sure I am getting the fatigue issue. Should I hang more sets.<

Yes. Work up to the amount of available privacy time by adding one set per week. Do not go up in weight while you are doing this. Then, when you reach the amount of available privacy time, you can resume going up in weight. Try to get in at least ten hours of hanging per week.

>I don't want to go up in weight too fast. But I don't feel any really soreness. Feels good in fact. Compared to the pain I used to have in hanging this is a really easy and good feeling.<

It sounds as if you are doing fine. Just take it easy. Go up in weight as I described above, in order to give the soft tissues time to adapt. At some point, you will reach the weight that brings on fatigue within the first set or two.

>I seem to have somewhat an erect issue. Not much, but I am not totally flaccid as I used to be. Does that make sense? I am flaccid but there still seems to be a big of girth.<

Well, if you are getting blood in while wrapping, just wait a minute for things to subside before attaching the hanger. Once the weight is on, you should not have an erection problem.

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Bib said:
Yes. Work up to the amount of available privacy time by adding one set per week. Do not go up in weight while you are doing this. Then, when you reach the amount of available privacy time, you can resume going up in weight. Try to get in at least ten hours of hanging per week.
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BIB, How many sets should one begin with if they theoretically had unlimited privacy time? Also, is it acceptable to progress faster than one set per week if one plans on hanging for 50 hours per week?
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goldm,

>How many sets should one begin with if they theoretically had unlimited privacy time?<

If you start at a really low weight, less than five lbs, you MAY be able to start with more than three sets. It really is an individual issue, and depends on individual physiology. I suppose the biggest point is to not try and begin hanging all day at first. Do no more than what you are able, and move up slowly from there as your tissues adapt.

>Also, is it acceptable to progress faster than one set per week if one plans on hanging for 50 hours per week?<

There are probably many guys that can adapt faster, but why risk it? If a guy were hanging five lbs, did not feel any of the work whatsoever when hanging three sets per day, then perhaps he could try moving up a couple more sets in only one week. But if there are any fatigue issues at all, you need to go slow.

Another thing. If you do find yourself too sore, skin problems, etc., just back off the intensity a bit, and try to continue hanging.

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Hi Bib and thank you for the response. I will try and answer your questions and comments:

>I have a lot that is high..8 or 8 and 1/2. I had trouble with getting the adjustment but think I have that settled. Also the wrapping was a trouble thing, but that seems to be better now.<

If you need any help with this, just ask. When beginning, using low weights, is the time to learn how to do this stuff. Makes it much easier as you go up in weight.

>I started out lowering the weight I was using. I was starting out too high and my penis was not conditioned so, I started out using 5# and that worked really well. Been hanging two weeks and did 5# for three sets of 20 minutes each.<

I assume that is every day?

""Yes, I am hanging every day, maybe take a day off every 5 or 6 and then back""

>Then did some sets with 5#, incresed for one set to 10# and then back to 5#.<

No. Just go up 1-2 lbs per week. If you feel you are conditioned at five lbs, then move up slowly. Do not be a hero. Hang only what you are conditioned for.

""Okay, I think that has been my problem, I will just go up a pound or two.""

>This is all seeming good. Tonight I did a set with 5 and then a set with 10. Both sets were 30 minutes. No pain, no coldness etc.<

Try to limit your sets to 20 minutes. If you are stressing your unit whatsoever, just the stretching of the blood vessels will limit blood flow.

>I am seeing girth gains already, is that normal?<

It is not abnormal at the base. Are you seeing length gains?

""I think so. At least I have more room at the base for either clamping with my hand and it is easier to get the regular bib on. I had trouble with it for a while becasue I didn't have the length. So, I believe I am seeing some gains. But I definitely see girth gains and more "MEATIER penis" if that makes sense.""

>I am not sure I am getting the fatigue issue. Should I hang more sets.<

Yes. Work up to the amount of available privacy time by adding one set per week. Do not go up in weight while you are doing this. Then, when you reach the amount of available privacy time, you can resume going up in weight. Try to get in at least ten hours of hanging per week.

"okay""

>I don't want to go up in weight too fast. But I don't feel any really soreness. Feels good in fact. Compared to the pain I used to have in hanging this is a really easy and good feeling.<

It sounds as if you are doing fine. Just take it easy. Go up in weight as I described above, in order to give the soft tissues time to adapt. At some point, you will reach the weight that brings on fatigue within the first set or two.

>I seem to have somewhat an erect issue. Not much, but I am not totally flaccid as I used to be. Does that make sense? I am flaccid but there still seems to be a big of girth.<

Well, if you are getting blood in while wrapping, just wait a minute for things to subside before attaching the hanger. Once the weight is on, you should not have an erection problem.

""Thank you so very much for your help. I don't know if I have any more questions at this time. I am working to get three sets in the morning and three in the evening and that will give me the 10 plus hours a week, even if I take a day off. I definitely do not have the pain or pinching I had before, and that is because I have learned to wrap right. Thanks again. GS""
 
Hi Bib, I have been reading your posts and notice you said that you had more body to the penis after hanging. I am experincing that too. I just have more there. I am up to 10 pounds and hanging 6 sets a day now. I am still not reaching that fatigue. No pain in the hanging, just hanging. I am sure I will see some length gains soon. I feel like it is coming. Would you suggest more sets per day. I can't do it every day but some days I can. GS
 
GS,

>I have been reading your posts and notice you said that you had more body to the penis after hanging. I am experincing that too. I just have more there.<

Yes, I believe that was in reference to the shaft pulled out, vs actual shaft growth debate. All along the process, I noticed actual growth, from stretching of the tunica which allowed for more volume, plus the added volume from pulling out of inner penis.

>I am up to 10 pounds and hanging 6 sets a day now. I am still not reaching that fatigue. No pain in the hanging, just hanging.<

If that equates to two hours per day, that is great.

>I am sure I will see some length gains soon. I feel like it is coming. Would you suggest more sets per day. I can't do it every day but some days I can<

A couple of extra sets when possible is not too bad. But I would not place myself in a postition of doing WAY more work than my unit was accustomed to. Going from six sets per day, to eight sets per day, would probably be OK. Going from six sets to twelve sets would probably be way too much. Skin irritation, and other soft tissue problems, would probably come into play.

Just continue on, increasing the weight 1-2 lbs per week. Soon, you will reach the amount of stress that will bring on early fatigue, and you can then reduce the weight in subsequent sets. When fatigue forces this reduction in weight, and you are hanging in the fatigued state, you will probably begin to see good gains.

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GS,

I meant to add: When writing about this stuff, it is really tough for me to comprehend exactly what a guy is feeling and/or doing. What is great stress to one guy, is nothing to another guy.

If you are really feeling nothing while hanging ten lbs, you might move up a bit more agressively. Not five lbs per week, but perhaps 1-2 lbs every 3-4 days.

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Bib said:
GS,

I meant to add: When writing about this stuff, it is really tough for me to comprehend exactly what a guy is feeling and/or doing. What is great stress to one guy, is nothing to another guy.

If you are really feeling nothing while hanging ten lbs, you might move up a bit more agressively. Not five lbs per week, but perhaps 1-2 lbs every 3-4 days.

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Bib, I am waiting for the fatigue feeling and think then I will see some length growth. Maybe I don't know what fatigue is? Can you describe it? I think I will try and increase every 3-4 days and see what happens. I have been stretching and pulling for several years so I am able to do this. Thanks for your help. GS
 
Bib, another question. I am cut but started Penis Enlargement with pumping because I had peyronies and needed to straighten the shaft immediately. This caused me a lot of excess skin. You said that you were cut, did you get excess skin because of hanging?

What other exercises should I do besides hanging. I am stretching yet and doing some jelqing. GS
 
Bib, after hanging this morning, I have a redness at the tip of the glans. The redness goes back from the tip to half way. My glans is large so I wonder what causes this. Did I not have the hanger back far enough or what. Doesn't hurt and is gone now, a few hours later. I saw a picture somewhere of this same thing. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Bib, another question. I am cut but started Penis Enlargement with pumping because I had peyronies and needed to straighten the shaft immediately. This caused me a lot of excess skin. You said that you were cut, did you get excess skin because of hanging?

What other exercises should I do besides hanging. I am stretching yet and doing some jelqing. GS
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G S
I'm uncut but have gained quite a bit of excess skin from hanging,got over half an inch at the tip now,ive mentioned it a few times in the foreskin restoration forum but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
 
PA..I have had to deal with it. I think I have about the same, over half an inch at the tip. I have said that Penis Enlargement builds foreskin but some of the new ones, don't understand it. When you hang, do you pull all that skin back? How much foreskin do you have at the glans? I am interested in your method. Do you/did you experience the red tip I described? Thanks. GS
 
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Up until a few weeks ago i used to pull the skin back to reveil the head then start the wrap 1.5 inches below the head,then alow the foreskin to cover the head and the wrap was left just behind the covered head.

Now i simply grab with an ok grip behind the head and push a small amount of skin back then grip hard and pull out on the shaft slightly,the head still stays totally covered,i start the wrap as close to the ok grip as i can get and as i spiral the theraband down the shaft i wrap tighter,not excessively tight,once wrapped the shaft has a sort of V shape to it when looking straight down,the head is slightly more pronounced without being full of blood.

Hope that makes sense.
 
GS,

>Bib, I am waiting for the fatigue feeling and think then I will see some length growth. Maybe I don't know what fatigue is? Can you describe it?<

Discomfort within the target tissues, soreness, tiredness. While hanging, a feeling that you simply cannot continue at the current weight.

> I think I will try and increase every 3-4 days and see what happens. I have been stretching and pulling for several years so I am able to do this.<

OK.

>You said that you were cut, did you get excess skin because of hanging?<

Yes, I did on purpose. Whenever my skin was getting even a bit tight due to inner penis volume increase, I would stretch more skin. When flaccid, I know look uncut, and I like it.

>What other exercises should I do besides hanging. I am stretching yet and doing some jelqing.<

I only recommend light jelqing between sets, including BTB jelqing, and then perhaps 10-20 minutes after the end of your session. All of this is to restore full circulation.

>Bib, after hanging this morning, I have a redness at the tip of the glans. The redness goes back from the tip to half way. My glans is large so I wonder what causes this. <

You probably either had too much blood in the glans before attaching the hanger, or the hanger is not tight enough, and riding down toward the head too much, not grasping the internal structures of the shaft.

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Hi Bib, have not been back to you cause I have just been doing what we talked about. I went backwards and hung at 7 1/2# steady for the past week. Today I am going up to 10#. Acutally went to 7 1/2 for the first set then #10 on the sets there after. Again, no pain or even trouble. What I do feel is that the tunica/shaft while hanging is now much thicker and seems stronger. I can reach back while hanging and lift that cord with my finger and is is much heavier than before. The results I feel are a meatier penis, more girthy and it seems longer. Have not measured because I don't think it would be that much yet. Erections are good, so no difficulty there. Any further advice would be appreciated. I am just being consistent. Hanging three sets every day and when I can, I get three more, or six sets most days. I do take two days off after 5 days. Seems I need it. ??? GS
 
Bib said:
GS,
I only recommend light jelqing between sets, including BTB jelqing, and then perhaps 10-20 minutes after the end of your session. All of this is to restore full circulation.
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Bib, what about pumping?
I heard that pumping increases the blood flow. is this true?
What do you think about moderate pumping after hanging? When im talking about pumping, i mean moderate pumping like the guys from thunderplace are doing. So may be only 5 min pumping and then a 5 min jelq session and then repeat it. This should increase the blood flow more than just jelqing.
What is your opinion about this?
 
I am confused how the whole 'light jelqing' exercise works. Let me describe what I imagine it to be:

After removing the hanger, get a semi-erection and do easy dry jelqs, forcing blood into the head. Then, let the erection subside for a few minutes before reattaching the hanger.

Is this correct? Also, could you describe BTB jelqs?
 
No need to get semi erect just dry jelq the area behind the wrap,all your trying to do is get some fresh blood into the shaft,you can also slap your dick against your thigh massage the head.the way i do BTB jelqs is simply grab the base with ok grip but grab under the balls as well,you can then jelq the area of shaft that runs from your ass up to your balls.
 
prince Albert said:
No need to get semi erect just dry jelq the area behind the wrap,all your trying to do is get some fresh blood into the shaft,you can also slap your dick against your thigh massage the head.the way i do BTB jelqs is simply grab the base with ok grip but grab under the balls as well,you can then jelq the area of shaft that runs from your ass up to your balls.
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So you are performing the btb jelq with only one hand?
 
goldmember said:
I am confused how the whole 'light jelqing' exercise works. Let me describe what I imagine it to be:

After removing the hanger, get a semi-erection and do easy dry jelqs, forcing blood into the head. Then, let the erection subside for a few minutes before reattaching the hanger.
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Exactly. Erection is also not as full as for regular jelqs.


goldmember said:
Is this correct? Also, could you describe BTB jelqs?
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With your thumb and forefinger together and pressing behind the balls with your inner penis between, do a jelquing motion from back (anus) to front (shaft or ballsack). Kegel before each jelq to get more blood for it. I`ve never done it regularly so I can´t really comment on it, but BIB often reccommends it.
 
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dex said:
So you are performing the btb jelq with only one hand?
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Yes if dry jelqing,if part of a proper wet jelq session i swap hands each rep,bib may have a different way of doing it as ive never seen a discription of how to do them.
 
Bib, I have some really tough looking bruising on the forskin, underneath at the glans area. It doesn't hurt or anything, but sure looks awful. Should I worry about that? Should I wrap different? I am wrapping behind the glans and leaving some of the foreskin out in front of the wrapping? Hanging 10# now and still not feeling any fatigue. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Bib, I have some really tough looking bruising on the forskin, underneath at the glans area. It doesn't hurt or anything, but sure looks awful. Should I worry about that? Should I wrap different? I am wrapping behind the glans and leaving some of the foreskin out in front of the wrapping? Hanging 10# now and still not feeling any fatigue. GS
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How long do you hang for?
 
GS,

Wow, I am not even needed anymore. Great answers.

>Hi Bib, have not been back to you cause I have just been doing what we talked about. I went backwards and hung at 7 1/2# steady for the past week. Today I am going up to 10#. Acutally went to 7 1/2 for the first set then #10 on the sets there after. Again, no pain or even trouble. What I do feel is that the tunica/shaft while hanging is now much thicker and seems stronger. I can reach back while hanging and lift that cord with my finger and is is much heavier than before. The results I feel are a meatier penis, more girthy and it seems longer. Have not measured because I don't think it would be that much yet. Erections are good, so no difficulty there. Any further advice would be appreciated. I am just being consistent. Hanging three sets every day and when I can, I get three more, or six sets most days. I do take two days off after 5 days. Seems I need it. ???<

Only you can determine when and how much time off you need. It depends on several factors, mainly the amount of intensity of hanging. But it does sound as if you are hanging effectively.

dex,

I know nothing about pumping.

gold,
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] gave good information about light jelqing and BTB jelqing. Good circulation is what they are about, not gains.

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GS,

>Bib, I have some really tough looking bruising on the forskin, underneath at the glans area. It doesn't hurt or anything, but sure looks awful. Should I worry about that? Should I wrap different? I am wrapping behind the glans and leaving some of the foreskin out in front of the wrapping? Hanging 10# now and still not feeling any fatigue.<

You have wrapping issues. First, I assume this is discoloration and not bruising.

I also assume the discoloration is directly in front of the beginning of the wrap. You probably have at least this area too tight, and perhaps all of the wrap too tight to allow for circulation. You must watch out for the wrapped area just in front of the hanger. You can test this after attaching the hanger, and before applying the weight. After attaching the hanger, strech out your shaft manually. Then, with your other hand, feel the wrap in the V formed by the two halves of the hanger coming together. This wrap should be soft and easy to puch in. Not tight.

The blood channels of the hanger will allow for some circulation, but if the wrap is too tight, it will defeat the blood channels of the hanger.

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