9 inches going for 10!

This is an interesting chem-pe thread. I'm especially interested in the effects of HCG.

Have you considered removing Nolvadex from your current dosing and using it sort of as a PCT? My understanding is that HCG suppresses LH but keeping your LH levels high on this kind of regiments is kind of non-essential. Would it be more beneficial to use an aromatize inhibitor for cycle support if you felt your estrogen was elevating?
 
Tahir Aqbar;642188 said:
This is an interesting chem-pe thread. I'm especially interested in the effects of HCG.

Have you considered removing Nolvadex from your current dosing and using it sort of as a PCT? My understanding is that HCG suppresses LH but keeping your LH levels high on this kind of regiments is kind of non-essential. Would it be more beneficial to use an aromatize inhibitor for cycle support if you felt your estrogen was elevating?
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Flew right over my head:)
 
Tahir Aqbar;642381 said:
Us youngsters are all about that gene doping. We're either going to permanently fuck ourselves us or birth a generation of super humans.
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I guess so:)
 
I am just using nolvadex so I don't get "bitch tits". Just 250mg of HCG isn't going to cause elevated estrogen levels so an aromatase inhibitor would be overkill. The HCG mostly likely raising my T and E levels by about 10% and I'm only taking it so the DHT doesn't shut down my T production.

An update. After about 1 month of dht and using a full tube, I quit, I'll go back on it again some other time. The way I see it, the 2.5% DHT isn't enough. I would need 10%. Plus taking all of this PCT type medication for JUST dht seems like a waste. My plan is to stay off of everything for about a month, than do a steroid (probably 400mg of T) cycle plus DHT cream. The elevated DHT from the steroids plus the DHT cream combined should give better results. And yeah, I'll replace the novadex with arimadex and save the novadex for post cycle. I'll also do 250mg hcg 3 days a week.
 
Tahir Aqbar;642381 said:
Us youngsters are all about that gene doping. We're either going to permanently fuck ourselves us or birth a generation of super humans.
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I don't think its gene doping lol. But, yeah, I wholeheartedly believe in hormone replacement, etc. as a means to extend your golden years until death. Why accept the downhill turn at 30 when you can be 28 until you're 80.

I'm starting to think I'm not going to get any length gains unless I can bust down the built-up collagen in the tunica. As soon as I have enough money I'm going to go to a urologist and get a verapamil prescription. From what I understand, verapamil is $100+ and a urologist visit is about $100 so I better get to saving! But for girth, I seem to be doing good. I think the DHT cream increased my girth without doing any girth exercises. At least it certainly is wider flaccid.
 
so you think you are not get lenght gains anymore..what about D he is 10 inches in lenght n i have the feeling that he is gonna get to eleven...gains can get slower but i think you can get them...besides 9x6 is an amazing achievement¡
 
Thanks short. Yeah its amazing. I've gained .75 inches in girth and 1.5 in length, but it isn't my goal. I'm continuing with my current routine, but the going is incredibly slow.
 
Don't know if you mentioned this, but have you tried using TB-400, to promote tendon and ligament elasticity?

Why do you think your length gains are going to stop at 1.5 inches or at least slow exponentially?

At my best length I was 7.2-3 BPEL and that was about a 1.5 inch gain from where I started. I lost some length from not PEing for over a year but I feel that I could easily get up to 8 BPEL without using any chemicals.... maybe I'll dabble with TB-400 or other peptides to hit 8 but not until I've gained over 2 inches. I guess it depends on the mindset of the PE'er as well.
 
ShadedSam;642740 said:
Thanks short. Yeah its amazing. I've gained .75 inches in girth and 1.5 in length, but it isn't my goal. I'm continuing with my current routine, but the going is incredibly slow.
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After my first two inches it took me another 7 years to gain 2 more....it gets harder too gain after you have gained so much but stick with it, over time it will happen.
 
After my first two inches it took me another 7 years to gain 2 more....it gets harder too gain after you have gained so much but stick with it, over time it will happen. pfff most of the time im mentally exhausted n getting to 8 nbpel is something i see way too far sometimes...evenso i had my session [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] N [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Sessions:s
 
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Tahir Aqbar;642749 said:
Don't know if you mentioned this, but have you tried using TB-400, to promote tendon and ligament elasticity?

Why do you think your length gains are going to stop at 1.5 inches or at least slow exponentially?

At my best length I was 7.2-3 BPEL and that was about a 1.5 inch gain from where I started. I lost some length from not PEing for over a year but I feel that I could easily get up to 8 BPEL without using any chemicals.... maybe I'll dabble with TB-400 or other peptides to hit 8 but not until I've gained over 2 inches. I guess it depends on the mindset of the PE'er as well.
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Thanks for the heads up! No I hadn't heard of it (and I believe you meant tb-500). After doing some research I bought 12 mg tb-500 and 10mg GHRP-6 and am be doing both for the next 3 weeks and we'll see how it turns out!
 
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I was also readin up on Sub-sonic soundwaves can break Collogen. Always thought about buying a Sub Sonic tooth brush to see how it works. problem is its expensive to buy on a hunch.
 
ShadedSam;642817 said:
Thanks for the heads up! No I hadn't heard of it (and I believe you meant tb-500). After doing some research I bought 12 mg tb-500 and 10mg GHRP-6 and am be doing both for the next 3 weeks and we'll see how it turns out!
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Be prepared for being the most hungry you've ever been. I used GHRP-6 on and off last year when I was working in this warehouse because I kept loosing weight and I stopped dreaming. I worked the export shift so I was up all night and was experiencing a drop in my hormone levels. Yeah, GHRP-6, most hungry I've ever been and BEST SLEEP EVER. When I get paid again I'm considering getting ipam and cjc and hex to accelerate my fat loss without lowering my calories - been doing a recomp diet that's slowly progressed into a summer cut.

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@Necros - you can inject sub-q or intramuscularly, but I'm pretty sure only people who are fucking crazy would do intramuscular when they can inject sub-q with no pain... so knowing shaded sam he'll probably opt for intramuscualr because pain is weakness leaving the body :cool:
 
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If it makes me that hungry I'll consider ipam next time, but it was the same price for 2mg as 5mg for ghrp-6.

And no, I've never done intramuscular. I was scared shitless the first injection of HCG. The only way I was able to do it is after 5 shots of vodka and numbing the area with ice (btw don't do that, you can't tell if you're doing something wrong if its numb). the next 3 times I just numbed it, no alcohol (other than the swab of course lol) and since then I've been fine. I just use the tiny insulin needles. I don't know how I'm going to do the big intramuscular needles you need for testosterone! *shudder
 
I would like to see you get to 11 inches, I know you can do it!
 
ShadedSam;642877 said:
Haha, I wouldn't even if I wasn't to scared to. I don't expect GHRP6 to help it grow, but to help it heal. HGH is know to significantly accelerate healing HGH Accelerates Wound Healing - Growth Hormone to Speed up and Expedite Healing

Combine that with the tb-500...
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i say that about ghrp6 because it gives you a mild hypoglycemia which is going to cause turteling and light headed feeling bad for PE, but yes it is good for healing. HGH is a good choice especially if youre hitting heavy weights in the gym you can recover good, unfortunatly its very expensive and imo you need to run it for no less than 6 months if you expect to see results from hgh alone. Its just my opinion, and I have taken a lot of HGH. better off saving that money for a fancy PE device because there is no magic pill for growing. fortunatly peptides are very cheap so if you do want to experiment I would try doing like 4 iu of ghrp6 every day see if it helps
 
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