SSJ overtraining?

[8incyclops]

I've never cared about girth only length but know I care! Because girth exercises complement length exercises and women love the girth.

I've only just stared doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s for about 3 weeks now combined with some squeezes it's the best girth exercise but I'm seeing all the time now those red spots last night I did a light session 2 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and I'm covered with the broken capillaries this morning,is this over training or should I expect these all the time now?

 

[Jaronimo]

As intense as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s are i would say its pretty normal just Make sure you warm up properly, and to help them go away do a nice deep warm down with a heat pad and some massaging of all the skin to help break up the discoloration (red spots) I use the blue gel packs that can be frozen or microwaved.

I also use leech oil to help the spots heal I believe it works very well, I get it from thejamushop.com and I usually go for the wild leach blend I believe the name is. This was recommended by Redzulu some time back.

 

[youknowme123321]

I've never cared about girth only length but know I care! Because girth exercises complement length exercises and women love the girth.

I've only just stared doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s for about 3 weeks now combined with some squeezes it's the best girth exercise but I'm seeing all the time now those red spots last night I did a light session 2 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and I'm covered with the broken capillaries this morning,is this over training or should I expect these all the time now?

In my experience they will go away if you reduce intensity a bit. also stagger day of high intensity and low intensity. I used blue cold packs to get rid of my red spots quickly. I would do 10 minutes ice followed by 10 mins heat and a lil massage. I don't get the red dots anymore

 

[8incyclops]

Cold packs on my dick argh I'm warming up ill just back off a bit I think it's over traning

 

[Happywithbm]

Try backing off a bit. And what was suggested above. I tried taking a few days off and do light pumping and it was back. I had to take a month off of everything to be able to just get back into pumping. So far so good with the clamping with me. I was worried at first when starting.

 

[youknowme123321]

Cold packs on my dick argh I'm warming up ill just back off a bit I think it's over traning

Ok but ice will lead to quicker healing. just as with any soft tissue injury that results in capillary leakage (ankle injury with swelling or even spinal cord injuries) cold therapy results in faster healing. just have to be sure to use heat afterwards. This suggestion if for anyone who ever reads this. I know cold/cool packs on the penis seems crazy but it will help.

 

[8incyclops]

I did back off a bit I barely did a thing last night and red spots everywhere it's ok I'm gaining anyhow

 

[Satyr]

I wouldn't (and actually don't) back off. No need for it since red spots are totally harmless. And I get them almost every time since I began with more intensive exercises like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] more than a year ago. So don't worry unless you get seriously bruised (bigger black or blue ones) and even then don't worry but simply take a break for 3-4 days.
You can warm up and down though in my case warming up never did much with respect to this "problem". And as Jaronimo said Leech oil is a good supplement in any case, not just for healing but also for EQ and thus faster gains.

 

[Jaronimo]

I wouldn't (and actually don't) back off. No need for it since red spots are totally harmless. And I get them almost every time since I began with more intensive exercises like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] more than a year ago. So don't worry unless you get seriously bruised (bigger black or blue ones) and even then don't worry but simply take a break for 3-4 days.
You can warm up and down though in my case warming up never did much with respect to this "problem". And as Jaronimo said Leech oil is a good supplement in any case, not just for healing but also for EQ and thus faster gains.

I don't think the actual warming up helps heal it but I believe the spots can be reduced if you warm up vs. Not warming up, and yeah the spots are totally harmless so there's no point in backing off unless you're not looking to see gains.

But heat and very thorough massages do help relieve the spots. THe leach oil is like the ultimate red spot eraser though.

 

[8incyclops]

I've never tried leech oil I'm not a fan on how it's made the warming up and down and some Firegoat rolls should do the trick

 

[Happywithbm]

So don't worry unless you get seriously bruised (bigger black or blue ones) and even then don't worry but simply take a break for 3-4 days.

That's what I had going on. One pump with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and I had instant bruising after two minutes. That's what caused me to take a month off of everything.

 

[Satyr]

I've never tried leech oil I'm not a fan on how it's made the warming up and down and some Firegoat rolls should do the trick

Why? You're scared of leeches?rofl
Anyways: if you want to gain girth you shouldn't back off because of just some red spots. That's the kernel of my (and J's) proposition. And I wouldn't advice to stick to a warm/cold therapy either as long as you don't have to grapple with more serious problems since cold is counteracts the desired effects of girth work. Warmth is good, though

 

[8incyclops]

Why? You're scared of leeches?rofl
Anyways: if you want to gain girth you shouldn't back off because of just some red spots. That's the kernel of my (and J's) proposition. And I wouldn't advice to stick to a warm/cold therapy either as long as you don't have to grapple with more serious problems since cold is counteracts the desired effects of girth work. Warmth is good, though

No they boil them alive

 

[superman05xx]

Ok but ice will lead to quicker healing. just as with any soft tissue injury that results in capillary leakage (ankle injury with swelling or even spinal cord injuries) cold therapy results in faster healing. just have to be sure to use heat afterwards. This suggestion if for anyone who ever reads this. I know cold/cool packs on the penis seems crazy but it will help.

I might do this even without having injuries.

 

[superman05xx]

I've never tried leech oil I'm not a fan on how it's made the warming up and down and some Firegoat rolls should do the trick

Leech oil definitely helps heal the veins and such in the penis ...that's from my own personal experience.

 

[Satyr]

No they boil them alive

so dislike it because of ethical reasons?

 

[DLD]

Slow Squash Jelqs are the most powerful compression exercise and in the beginning broken capillaries and red spots come with the territory. The best way to deal with this is by making the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] progressive in exercise, starting gentle and working your way up to a 100% intense compression. After training going into some immediate deep tissue massage will help much of the color issues. Getting in some good heat with the massage will make it even more effective. Eventually your penis will become used to the intensity and you will see less and less spotting and better expansion. There is no quicker way to girth gains then the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words] but adding in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] in the 5x5x3 sets, this in itself should help with all the skin issues and it will definitely bring the best expansion. I hope this helps.

 

[8incyclops]

Slow Squash Jelqs are the most powerful compression exercise and in the beginning broken capillaries and red spots come with the territory. The best way to deal with this is by making the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] progressive in exercise, starting gentle and working your way up to a 100% intense compression. After training going into some immediate deep tissue massage will help much of the color issues. Getting in some good heat with the massage will make it even more effective. Eventually your penis will become used to the intensity and you will see less and less spotting and better expansion. There is no quicker way to girth gains then the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words] but adding in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] in the 5x5x3 sets, this in itself should help with all the skin issues and it will definitely bring the best expansion. I hope this helps.

Thanks I did this last night after the warm down a deep massage and this morning very little red spots some! But not as many as before I'm almost 6 inches in erect girth now just a couple of millimetres off.
DLD can you get some erect length gains from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s even though it's a mainly a girth exercise?

 

[DLD]

Thanks I did this last night after the warm down a deep massage and this morning very little red spots some! But not as many as before I'm almost 6 inches in erect girth now just a couple of millimetres off.
DLD can you get some erect length gains from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s even though it's a mainly a girth exercise?

It is not the best exercise to gain length but some length will be gained as you gain girth. I suggest including length specific exercises also to maximize length gains.

 

[8incyclops]

It is not the best exercise to gain length but some length will be gained as you gain girth. I suggest including length specific exercises also to maximize length gains.

I do stretching as well but am gaining a lot if girth doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s

 

[dmoney101]

Get used to them, pretty common. Try apple cider vinegar. I have skin tags from a dull clipper cutting my dick up, so I've been using apple cider vinegar to remove them. As a side effect, a really bad bruise i've had for years from a really intense clamp session has started to fade.

 

[DLD]

I do stretching as well but am gaining a lot if girth doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s

It is hard not to gain using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words], it always brings expansion consistently and this is where the gains are in girth.

 

[dmoney101]

It is hard not to gain using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words], it always brings expansion consistently and this is where the gains are in girth.

I must be talented then. I'm the only person who doesn't get huge expansion from SSJs haha. Guess that's why I always preferred clamping.

 

[youknowme123321]

I must be talented then. I'm the only person who doesn't get huge expansion from SSJs haha. Guess that's why I always preferred clamping.

exactly why i prefer clamping for girth work

 

[dmoney101]

Clamping makes jelqing look so hard haha

 

[8incyclops]

This thread is just about getting posts up now

 

[Jdcsd]

I've never tried leech oil I'm not a fan on how it's made the warming up and down and some Firegoat rolls should do the trick

I tried the leech oil before. Didn't see much besides an oily stinky dick

 

[Sea Eagle]

DLD ,what you reckon about Clamping after doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]`s or would that be over doing it ?

 

[PGApro]

DLD ,what you reckon about Clamping after doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]`s or would that be over doing it ?

I don't see an issue with it. After I do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] session I want to clamp all the pump I can and keep it concentrated to that area. I hope I'm not wrong in the way I'm going about it but it seems to work.

 

[dmoney101]

DLD ,what you reckon about Clamping after doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]`s or would that be over doing it ?

Light clamping or putting on a cock ring would actually be a great cool down. If you have the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] to do a full on clamp session after your jelqs, then that would be fine too. Have you considered doing SSJs while you clamp?

 

[DLD]

Light clamping or putting on a cock ring would actually be a great cool down. If you have the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] to do a full on clamp session after your jelqs, then that would be fine too. Have you considered doing SSJs while you clamp?

Agree, light clamping would be consistent with healing and should not cause any issues, it would be like using a cock ring.

 

[dmoney101]

Agree, light clamping would be consistent with healing and should not cause any issues, it would be like using a cock ring.

Just a cock ring with adjustable pressure

 

[DLD]

Just a cock ring with adjustable pressure

Exactly. It will not take too much force to hold a good pump so I do advocate for clamping as a viable way to heal even though I do not advocate clamping for active gains. A light clamp is equal to a cock ring.

 

[dmoney101]

How can you not advocate clamping for gains? It's a 99 cent piece of plastic that does more than most devices lol

 

[youknowme123321]

Exactly. It will not take too much force to hold a good pump so I do advocate for clamping as a viable way to heal even though I do not advocate clamping for active gains. A light clamp is equal to a cock ring.

Hmmm i did not know you don't advocate clamping for active gains? why is this? I have thought of it as a way to get active gains. Also would consider it as a tool for active gains with healing as well b/c by aiding in healing it is aiding in active gains. Wow i used "active gains" a lot in this short post about active gains and clamping lol

 

[dmoney101]

It's definitely a way to make active gains. Just go back and look at Redzulu's pictures.

 

[Satyr]

guys, you're not new on the board so you could know that DLD always shunned clamping and generally doesn't advocate it, mainly - iirc - because of the inherent risks of this extreme technique while at the same time he made vast gains with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. That's his experience and though he is a legend in PE that doesn't mean that you can't come to different conclusions in specific cases with respect to spec. techniques. So did Redzulu and others when it comes to clamping. DLD gives lucid and valuable guidelines but you always also have to make your own experiences and decisions since nothing is written in stone and every individual brings in his individual predispositions.

 

[dmoney101]

I knew he didn't clamp but in my 6 years on here I never saw him say anything particularly bad about it.

 

[youknowme123321]

guys, you're not new on the board so you could know that DLD always shunned clamping and generally doesn't advocate it, mainly - iirc - because of the inherent risks of this extreme technique while at the same time he made vast gains with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. That's his experience and though he is a legend in PE that doesn't mean that you can't come to different conclusions in specific cases with respect to spec. techniques. So did Redzulu and others when it comes to clamping. DLD gives lucid and valuable guidelines but you always also have to make your own experiences and decisions since nothing is written in stone and every individual brings in his individual predispositions.

guy, of course people can come to different conclusions about PE and the various techniques. i never said they couldn't. I simply asked him why he doesn't believe in clamping as a way of making active gains and explained my thoughts on it briefly. And there is so much info on this board that even though we aren't new here it is easy to learn something new every day...especially when it comes to an individuals personal preferences.

Different PE techniques have their own risks. The only negative impact i ever faced was in EQ decreasing with pumping b/c i was overdoing it. all stretching and clamping have only strengthened and improved my EQ. Others have had EQ decrease with stretching before...we do all have different experiences.

 

[Satyr]

Didn't want to sound offensive, sorry for that. I was just baffled because Dld often pointed out why he refrains from clamping. Also, actually he didn't say that he doesn't believe in making active gains by clamping but just that he doesn't advocate it which is a meaningful difference in my book. I can't imagine that he'd say something like this, given the success of a lot of clampers here on the board.

You never experienced any EQ issues with clamping? That's remarkable. I already get them from time to time from intense manual work.

 

[DLD]

guys, you're not new on the board so you could know that DLD always shunned clamping and generally doesn't advocate it, mainly - iirc - because of the inherent risks of this extreme technique while at the same time he made vast gains with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. That's his experience and though he is a legend in PE that doesn't mean that you can't come to different conclusions in specific cases with respect to spec. techniques. So did Redzulu and others when it comes to clamping. DLD gives lucid and valuable guidelines but you always also have to make your own experiences and decisions since nothing is written in stone and every individual brings in his individual predispositions.

True. I lean towards the practices that are safest but this does not mean my word is the holy grail, some men can handle more than others. Redzulu and Stillwantmore come to mind in these cases, they both clamped with little issues but one thing they did share is discoloration. I do advocate clamping lightly for retainment of girth after training but that is as far as I will go with it.

 

[dmoney101]

The discoloration I got has faded with apple cider vinegar. Maybe I should make a thread and ask other people to try it out too.

 

[DLD]

The discoloration I got has faded with apple cider vinegar. Maybe I should make a thread and ask other people to try it out too.

I saw that and you should definitely make a thread attesting to it, it could help many men who suffer with discoloration. I wonder if adding some apple cider to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] would help in preventing discoloration????

 

[dmoney101]

NOOOOO that would probably burn like the devil on the tip of your dick lol. Imagine if some actually went down into your urethra. That'd be pretty shitty.

 

[DLD]

NOOOOO that would probably burn like the devil on the tip of your dick lol. Imagine if some actually went down into your urethra. That'd be pretty shitty.

lol, I guess so.

 

[youknowme123321]

I saw that and you should definitely make a thread attesting to it, it could help many men who suffer with discoloration. I wonder if adding some apple cider to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] would help in preventing discoloration????

that's a good thought..may work or burn like hell

 

[8incyclops]

Anyone that's ever tried apple cider vinegar will know what it can do to the skin:s

 

[dmoney101]

Just splashing it on worked. No need to risk getting vinegar down your urethra haha.

 

[8incyclops]

Just splashing it on worked. No need to risk getting vinegar down your urethra haha.

Sigh

 

[dmoney101]

Sigh

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