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Actually, I don't think that only because I know someone personally who has gained drastically and I myself have seen less drastic but still satisfying gains and many people on this board are seeing gains through various methods. So even though I may have asked this before, why do so many doctors insist that there is no safe method to enlarge the penis when real people are having real results? Is it we or they who are denying reality?

If I gain almost an inch that wasn't there before I can't be convinced that it doesn't work or isn't worth it, so what is your take on this?
 
Doctors operate "in the box." There training is in the box and so are their treatments. How many times have docs told people they would die within the year while the people keep on living for many more? How many thousands of times a year are people sent to surgery when some simple cleansing, herbs and lifestyle change would do a better healing job?

If I'm bleeding to death or have broken bones please get me to a doctor. Short of that though I think I can do a better job myself. Don't give your power away to someone else's opinion. Even a so called "expert." If you think you can safely enlarge your penis then you can. If you think it's dangerous than it is. You decide.

Everything we do has some element of risk and danger to it. We just evaluate those risks and determine if they're worth taking for ourselves.
 
pe is kinda like the fight club. underground kind of network which noone talks about. how can doctors give credibility to pe when they know nothing about it and there are basically no studies on pe.
 
Chaco;301996 said:
Doctors operate "in the box." There training is in the box and so are their treatments. How many times have docs told people they would die within the year while the people keep on living for many more? How many thousands of times a year are people sent to surgery when some simple cleansing, herbs and lifestyle change would do a better healing job?

If I'm bleeding to death or have broken bones please get me to a doctor. Short of that though I think I can do a better job myself. Don't give your power away to someone else's opinion. Even a so called "expert." If you think you can safely enlarge your penis then you can. If you think it's dangerous than it is. You decide.

Everything we do has some element of risk and danger to it. We just evaluate those risks and determine if they're worth taking for ourselves.

Kudos......very well put :)
 
Penis Enlargement definitely works. Like anything else it can be done safely or dangerously; it's up to the person.
 
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I think that a lot of doctors refuse to entertain the subject because anybody with full functionality down there has no need for the medical profession; "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
 
I think it's more about rep in doctors case, they need to keep their rep and if they mess with Penis Enlargement they know that things can go wrong, for them it's gray area....lot's of oportunities for them to lose rep and their status. BTW im glad im here again :) definelty goin for another inch ...i ll update my status later on
 
Arrogance, simply put. If the FDA found and approved a surgery or prescription pill that met their criteria for efficacy and safety, (remember Vioxx?) doctors would be pushing it on every man who entered their office. Doctors think that if another doc didn't discover it or invent it it's crap. Ask a physician about dietary supplements and he/she will likely tell you they're a waste of time and money, even though there are numerous data to the contrary... but he/she JUST SO HAPPenis EnlargementNS to have a patented synthetic drug that will work for you. (except with more side effects) Medical associations are nothing but boys' clubs for doctors. They're set up to keep nutritionists and preventive medicine from cutting into their business of treating symptoms rather that causes. It's the same for Penis Enlargement. If they aren't your "clinically tested" savior in whatever medical/physiological issue you may have then it can't be treated.

To get an idea of how the medical establisHydromaxent operates check out knowledgeofhealth.com. Its creator is a health journalist/consumer advocate whom I correspond with. I've had much better results with his supplement advice than with any doctor's prescription. He runs the site himself so there may be some typos here and there, but it's almost all fully referenced.

Doctoers basically suck unless you have a broken bone, cataracts or are in severe trauma, other than that they're a pretty big part of most developed countrys' health problems.
 
TheStick;302153 said:
Arrogance, simply put.

Doctoers basically suck unless you have a broken bone, cataracts or are in severe trauma, other than that they're a pretty big part of most developed countrys' health problems.

Exactly.
 
I wouldn't go that far mate, they are pretty elite but the fact of money usually means that emergencies get treated whilst the rest get neglected. They do seem to make good accountants with their book balancing, but by no means are they totally lacking in knowledge.
 
It's all in your head (the gains), and/or it's "scar tissue". Regardless....even if I really could attribute 2" in length, and over an inch in girth to SCAR TISSUE...I still have a much bigger penis than I began with years ago...and I'm bigger than a high percentage of men, oh and my penis works just fine. :cool:
 
FROM MY BLOG

If any of you have been into penis enlargement for a while and have visited the various penis enlargement forums you probably heard many new users of the danger of manual penis enlargement. On the Matters of Size penis enlargement forums it is one of the most popular questions from newbies getting involved with penis enlargement for the first time. Some of the fears include loss of erection angle, suffering erection quality, premature ejaculation, and just straight up injury. First let me quiet your fears as it has been very rare that I have seen men injure themselves or suffer any of the above problems.

My reason for starting penis enlargement (aside from the hopes of a larger penis) was to increase my erection strength. I was taking some medications at the time that made getting solid erections difficult. After I read some information on natural penis enlargement I decided to give it a go. If you have read my total experience in penis enlargement you already know that the enlargement worked very nicely. As for the erection problems I had before starting penis enlargement, well this is where I saw the power of penis enlargement first. Within my first week or two my erection strength went up to full capacity. I was getting better erections than I did as an 18 year old! This was the first part of penis enlargement that got my committed to the other promises of penis enlargement.

Some of the promises that were ahead of me included quite the opposite of the injuries guys feared. Pre-mature ejaculation never became an issue. As a matter of fact, after some time in penis enlargement I was able to last a very long time. I also was able to get a erection very quickly after orgasm. Some nights I would have sex 4 times in a row! This was a bonus, so much so that it was never like this before penis enlargement (even as a teen). Today I can masturbate and orgasm 3-4 times in a hour period suffering no erection strength. I do not do this everyday but maybe once or twice a month I give it a go and it never ceases to amaze me.

My erection angle was the second thing I noticed to improve after starting penis enlargement. With the help of the penis enlargement exercises and a solid pelvic floor muscle routine my angle increased more and more. At times it would almost touch my belly button straight up at 12:00! This was another thing that amazed me that was completely the opposite of mens fear of losing their angle due to penis enlargement. With penis enlargement surgery loss of erection angle is almost inevitable. Due to how the penis enlargement surgery is done (clipping the suspensory ligaments that attach the penis to the pubic bone) erection angle is a huge side effect. Not to mention many others. But, my experience in penis enlargement has only proven to make these things a great improvement.

The penis enlargement exercises that are a staple at Matters of Size may seem weird or scary at first but in many ways they are as safe as masturbation. The basic penis enlargement techniques, jelqing and stretching, are easy to do and quite safe. The risk involved is about that of rough masturbation of sex...kind of a turn on:) The bonus to all this penis enlargement is actual penis enlargement!

I have injured my penis during my active penis enlargement work. This injury was not due to penis enlargement as it was an injury I got while measuring my penis. The ruler I used somehow slipped or I was using too much pressure (not sure) but I got a small tear in my frenulum, the piece of skin that is at the base of the penis head and connects to the shaft on the underside of your penis. This took about 2 weeks to completely heal but today there is no problems whatsoever. Needless to say I measure with much more care now:)

I am only one guy and I think it is a good idea for you to join my forums to read about other penis enlargement users experience. The forums, as many know, are free. There are thousands of guys there and thousands of threads to look through. Read up and research before you start any penis enlargement program but it is not as scary as it sounds.

DLD
 
I have found Penis Enlargement not without risk, but if done properly, its fine.
Sex on the other hand can break your dick if you are sili about it. But we dont quit having sex.

Wear a condom buddy! ok, i going into a commercial for durex now but i guess you catch my drift.
 
The reason why many doctors play down natural pe like what we do is partly due to the fear of being sued by somene is fucks themselves up and runs to the lawyer and tells it that the doctor said it would be fine. Lawyer does its stuff and wipes the floor with the doctor in court as the background to npe in the medical world is sketchy as we all know. Doctor gets sued.

Its all about pass the book and not wanting to get involved which I can 100% understand from the doctor's POV. Why the fuck should he or even she recommend natural pe methods which could result in injury to the patient and lets be HONEST all npe methods involve risk around them .. all methods do, from the simple stretch which could damage ligaments and tendons if done too extreme to girth work which could damage blood vessells and veins.

A medical pro wont take the risk and until CONCRETE evidence comes to light that npe is 100% safe and has very low risks of damage to the patient, not many in the field will say do it and those that do have their fingers in the pot with an eye on a target for profits!
 
As a medical school student I will chime in here:

Firstly when you hear about "doctors" and their discoveries and approvals and dissaprovals etc... its usually not MEDICAL DOCTORS with MD's, the reference is being made to people who hold a PhD and are referred to as doctors (doctorate). They are usually Professors and researchers involved with university programs and large firms.

Older doctors are still old school and they are really boxed into their beliefs and its not appropriate to venture outside your box. Think about when these doctors trained and how different subject matters such as penis enlargement would be looked at back then. Advocating Penis Enlargement could have a serious impact on ones image whether your a MD or a PhD.

I think in the near future Doctors will be more open towards Penis Enlargement, basically there isnt enough knowledge availible to doctors right now. We just end up seeing crazy people who ripped their penises off or caused damage through extreme girth work etc... we only see the negative.

I don't speak openly of Penis Enlargement with fellow med school students, but I'm sure if anyone comes across this site its pretty easy to believe that natural Penis Enlargement is both safe and possible if you approach it properly.

There's a lot of things out there that can be dangerous if you don't approach them properly, Penis Enlargement is just one of them, but thats no reason to push it aside.

I haven't made gains yet, but I definitely am a beliver and hopefully someday I can make some permanent gains.

PS: my post might not make any sense, I haven't slept in over 30 hours im stuffing my face with cereal trying to stay up right now<:(
 
smallbrownguy;335564 said:
As a medical school student I will chime in here:

Firstly when you hear about "doctors" and their discoveries and approvals and dissaprovals etc... its usually not MEDICAL DOCTORS with MD's, the reference is being made to people who hold a PhD and are referred to as doctors (doctorate). They are usually Professors and researchers involved with university programs and large firms.

Older doctors are still old school and they are really boxed into their beliefs and its not appropriate to venture outside your box. Think about when these doctors trained and how different subject matters such as penis enlargement would be looked at back then. Advocating Penis Enlargement could have a serious impact on ones image whether your a MD or a PhD.

I think in the near future Doctors will be more open towards Penis Enlargement, basically there isnt enough knowledge availible to doctors right now. We just end up seeing crazy people who ripped their penises off or caused damage through extreme girth work etc... we only see the negative.

I don't speak openly of Penis Enlargement with fellow med school students, but I'm sure if anyone comes across this site its pretty easy to believe that natural Penis Enlargement is both safe and possible if you approach it properly.

There's a lot of things out there that can be dangerous if you don't approach them properly, Penis Enlargement is just one of them, but thats no reason to push it aside.

I haven't made gains yet, but I definitely am a beliver and hopefully someday I can make some permanent gains.

PS: my post might not make any sense, I haven't slept in over 30 hours im stuffing my face with cereal trying to stay up right now<:(


Some docs are coming around: A Doctor's Penis Enlargement Experience
 
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