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First Ive been pe for years (currently 8x6 bpel) and have had gains but since kids its hard to exercise so I need passive ways to pe. Bathmate was great but I didnt like the discoloring so I stopped.
The best stretching I got was from the power assist and the manual DLD program but I just don't have the time. Just ordered phallosan off ebay from germany( not available in the usa for some reason) and started using the phallosan for 2 weeks. (BTW it arrived in 2 weeks no problem)
My current routine is heavy 20lbs bib hanger in the morning for 20 min and phallosan all day(as much as possible- 8-12 hours).
So far so good, it does give a good stretch but not intense like the bib I figure its 1-2lbs. Its comfortable
and moderately discrete( the head of the device is plastic so you cannot wear any tight pants or jeans with it only pleated or sweat pants)
They give you a bulb to create the suction but it was too hard to use so I went to lowes and bought clear tubing and use that by sucking into it to create suction.
So far its been working great, if I try to create too much tension it will loose suction.
Time will tell. I expect the gains to be slow and steady Ive been at this a while.
I'll keep you posted
 
you would refuse gains because of discoloration?
There is a cream for that....
 
Hell, i've seen women suck horses penises and they have hundreds of colours on them. Kidding man.

I'll look up this phallosan right now though...

Is this it?

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Don't you have to keep changing sides?
 
First about the color, the problem was the color was only on the upper 2/3 not the whole length so it looked weird. Where the rings were on my cock after using the Bathmate from there to the base was normal color. It was a dark black from there to the tip.. I put vitamin k cream on it and it didnt work. It has slowly faded still not the same. I not against anyone who wants to use it but somehow capillary leakage and forcing lymphatic edema seems unwise. The blood is supposed to stay within the cock permanent damage to the capillary and lymphatic system is worrisome to me. . If you've ever seen people with venous stasis disease of the legs you'll know what I mean. Probably keeping it under 10 minutes and avoiding discoloration and edema is safe but most of us will over do it. Look I know there are guys who have been pumping for ages and are fine but for me no thanks. Furthermore I tried it for about 3 months and didn't see anything but I thought for sure I would after trying it.

Here are some issues with the phallosan before you purchase
going to take a leak is a pain you have to remove all that crap to piss so you need a private bathroom, you cant change in a stall with people around takes extra 5 min
You're supposed to change sides every 2 days but I curve to the left so I'm going to try to straighten it and keep it to the right when and if it straightens then
The condom piece with the plastic head in the pic will wear and tear and an you only get one in the box I need the large and they send one small, med and large but only one fits -reorder is $50
It sometimes looses suction dont know why- rare
No way to calibrate the tension I put it on as tight as I can without losing suction
expensive
you have to put talc powder on it to keep it from sticking and tearing

On the positive side
gives a nice comfortable stretch
I can wear it all day, I even played catch with a football without any problems, no way will it stay on all night
Relatively concealable , no way i could wear an extender concealed as well
Good adjunct to hanging
doubt would work all by itself.
I still think manual exercises and the power assist and length assist are the absolute best but I just cant find the time or privacy
I'll let you know how it goes, I never had a good ADS, maybe this will work
I want my cock to grow to 9 inches, greedy yes, attainable yes.
 
cleaver;426367 said:
First about the color, the problem was the color was only on the upper 2/3 not the whole length so it looked weird. Where the rings were on my cock after using the Bathmate from there to the base was normal color. It was a dark black from there to the tip.. I put vitamin k cream on it and it didnt work. It has slowly faded still not the same. I not against anyone who wants to use it but somehow capillary leakage and forcing lymphatic edema seems unwise. The blood is supposed to stay within the cock permanent damage to the capillary and lymphatic system is worrisome to me. . If you've ever seen people with venous stasis disease of the legs you'll know what I mean. Probably keeping it under 10 minutes and avoiding discoloration and edema is safe but most of us will over do it. Look I know there are guys who have been pumping for ages and are fine but for me no thanks. Furthermore I tried it for about 3 months and didn't see anything but I thought for sure I would after trying it.

Here are some issues with the phallosan before you purchase
going to take a leak is a pain you have to remove all that crap to piss so you need a private bathroom, you cant change in a stall with people around takes extra 5 min
You're supposed to change sides every 2 days but I curve to the left so I'm going to try to straighten it and keep it to the right when and if it straightens then
The condom piece with the plastic head in the pic will wear and tear and an you only get one in the box I need the large and they send one small, med and large but only one fits -reorder is $50
It sometimes looses suction dont know why- rare
No way to calibrate the tension I put it on as tight as I can without losing suction
expensive
you have to put talc powder on it to keep it from sticking and tearing

On the positive side
gives a nice comfortable stretch
I can wear it all day, I even played catch with a football without any problems, no way will it stay on all night
Relatively concealable , no way i could wear an extender concealed as well
Good adjunct to hanging
doubt would work all by itself.
I still think manual exercises and the power assist and length assist are the absolute best but I just cant find the time or privacy
I'll let you know how it goes, I never had a good ADS, maybe this will work
I want my cock to grow to 9 inches, greedy yes, attainable yes.

How do you manage to put the protective cap on? I have a phallosan but after trying to use it for a few days i gave up on it.
 
lightly coat all silicone pieces with talc powder, (not baby powder) before and after each use, the silicone cap is placed first just stretch it over your head and pull the loose skin out. Push your head into the plastic cap and roll the condom like sleeve to the base , its not necessary to have your head in the hard plastic at this time, as the suction will pull that in(I think the clear tubing(plumbing section) from lowes works better than the pump) just take one of the caps to lowes and find one that fits in it. Then use the suction and pinch the tube to keep suction in and place it into the clamp. takes a little practice but it works.
 
cleaver;426404 said:
lightly coat all silicone pieces with talc powder, (not baby powder) before and after each use, the silicone cap is placed first just stretch it over your head and pull the loose skin out. Push your head into the plastic cap and roll the condom like sleeve to the base , its not necessary to have your head in the hard plastic at this time, as the suction will pull that in(I think the clear tubing(plumbing section) from lowes works better than the pump) just take one of the caps to lowes and find one that fits in it. Then use the suction and pinch the tube to keep suction in and place it into the clamp. takes a little practice but it works.

Great feedback, thank you.
 
its just a piece of junk. Thats my impression after owning it for three months.
 
Ok, here's my impression, phallosan concept is good, the application sucks and some of the materials are crap.
The white ring is foam and tore
The condom piece stretched out and torn
The pump they give you sucks- it doesn't create enough suction
The belt and head(suction cap) are good.
I think I have solved the problems and I personally have been getting very good stretches.
It's how it should have been designed and is way more durable and no more powder and I can really place a lot of force.
Here are the modifications
1. athletic tape around the white loop to reinforce it so it doesn't tear (I don't think it was designed for this much force)
2. plastic tubing from lowes to to create suction
3. silicone sleeve from autoextender to use instead of the condom
4. 3m paper tape to prevent fluid buiild up (put on the tip)
5. as much tension as possible thru the belt
6. I even do all day bundle stretches(hard core for sure)
7. Concealable enough for dress pants pleats required
I pretty much use highest tension possible and I cant stretch beyond 6 -8 hours.
Its too sore, that deep ligament sore not skin.
I'm still hanging every morning for 20 min the right into the phallosan.

Ive only been at the new method for 3 weeks and I'm not expecting miracles overnight. It will take months to see any real visible changes. I 've been Penis Enlargementing a while so I know its a long race.
I'll take a pic on thurs and post.

I find its cleaner, easier to take on and off, and way more force, must be 3-5lbs (increases when sitting) best ads I've tried.

Would I buy it again? Yes its giving me a great all day stretch with the modifications.
Without the mods no way, its just not durable enough and to keep buying condoms for that thing is insane. Mine tore in 2 weeks. If you get it plan to make the mods I made or do your own.
 
1. athletic tape around the white loop to reinforce it so it doesn't tear (I don't think it was designed for this much force)
2. plastic tubing from lowes to to create suction
3. silicone sleeve from autoextender to use instead of the condom
4. 3m paper tape to prevent fluid buiild up (put on the tip)
5. as much tension as possible thru the belt
6. I even do all day bundle stretches(hard core for sure)
7. Concealable enough for dress pants pleats required
I pretty much use highest tension possible and I cant stretch beyond 6 -8 hours.
Its too sore, that deep ligament sore not skin.
I'm still hanging every morning for 20 min the right into the phallosan.

Yo,Clever

I have a phallosan also,Could you put pics of the modification?
That thing is pure shit,but i paid $300 for that bitch so i need to mod it.

Peace,
Super
 
Here's the pic. Pretty simple. If you look at the above pic unmodified the condom just stretches and comes loose. Not so with the silicone sleeve. Wrap athletic tape around the white loop piece to reinforce it. It works. I have absolutely no interest in seeing it do well. These mods mad it so much better.
 

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The blue sleeve is just stretched it overt the plastic cap. You need to cover about 70 percent of the cap. It holds only by friction no glue. Plus remember you create suction thru the tip of the plastic so the blue silicone sleeve is only meant to help create a seal. the stretch comes from counter traction of the ring and vac traction thru the head.
 
The blue sleeve is just stretched it overt the plastic cap. You need to cover about 70 percent of the cap. It holds only by friction no glue. Plus remember you create suction thru the tip of the plastic so the blue silicone sleeve is only meant to help create a seal. the stretch comes from counter traction of the ring and vac traction thru the head.

@ Cleaver-Good looking out,I also feel the same way about the system not doing well they should not for the way they make that bitch $300 Pleeeze.But it's a good sleep aid for growing at night.

Thanks Big Homie,
Super:)
 
@Super,
Good luck it's really way better with the mods.
I agree the original system is shit but love it the way it is now.
BTW that girl in your posts is amazing best I've seen, good job.
 
oops sorry super I meant wannagrow gif rules, but bart fucking that teacher is still pretty cool
 
cleaver;433949 said:
oops sorry super I meant wannagrow gif rules, but bart fucking that teacher is still pretty cool

Yup..thats the way i do my jelqs. Just insert the dick between those titties and relax. ;)

Nice modifications to phallosan btw. Any ideas how to improve the vac ?
 
Yes, i use my lungs. You need to buy some plastic tubing in the plumbing section from lowes or home depot. Bring the head piece in to make sure it fits into the tube on the plastic head and cut to length(dick to mouth). When you're ready put the tube in the cap tube and the other end in your mouth and suck until it you cant suck no more then pinch it off and clamp it. Plenty of suction. With the current mod Ive never lost suction or hold. it you have one already its worth the purchase of tubing and silicone sleeve otherwise I think it's a lot of hassle. If I make some gains it would be great and I'll let everyone know. I think it will be months before I see enough to report. Stuck at 8 bpel right now. going for 9.
good luck
 
good..i am gonna do this. i feel i am also kinda plateauing so this should help. Thanks
 
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