Great advice from both temp and Chil
 
Please do not kill yourself! Start thinking positive, you have a totally respectable size and no decent woman would think you small. ���� can mess with you - I should know! You are as big as - or maybe even a good way bigger than - a lot of guys, maybe even many or most who don't PE. What you have already is something to be perfectly proud of and can satisfy a woman no problem.

You need to realise this.

If you would feel better with more (and we all would) you have come to the right place. This is a brotherhood where you will be encouraged, supported, informed and couselled if you need it. There is information to help you grow your length and girth in many many ways so look at this as a new dawn - but try to find a way first to reframe your opinion of your current size. You don't have to be happy with it, but you really shouldn't be upset about it! It's a great size for someone who doesn't PE, so please give yourself a break. It would be bad if a woman was making you feel this way, but the fact you are making yourself feel this low really makes me upset for you dude. Love yourself, and your equipment. Be proud of it, but start PE and be prepared to feel like a King!

If you are struggling mentally, pm any time and I will do my best to help you feel better. I have been where you are and I still struggle sometimes but if you are low, you can talk in confidence and candidly and I or some of the other guys I'm sure will be glad to help boost your esteem.

Peace brother
 
Spamjavelin76;656022 said:
Please do not kill yourself! Start thinking positive, you have a totally respectable size and no decent woman would think you small. ���� can mess with you - I should know! You are as big as - or maybe even a good way bigger than - a lot of guys, maybe even many or most who don't PE. What you have already is something to be perfectly proud of and can satisfy a woman no problem.

You need to realise this.

If you would feel better with more (and we all would) you have come to the right place. This is a brotherhood where you will be encouraged, supported, informed and couselled if you need it. There is information to help you grow your length and girth in many many ways so look at this as a new dawn - but try to find a way first to reframe your opinion of your current size. You don't have to be happy with it, but you really shouldn't be upset about it! It's a great size for someone who doesn't PE, so please give yourself a break. It would be bad if a woman was making you feel this way, but the fact you are making yourself feel this low really makes me upset for you dude. Love yourself, and your equipment. Be proud of it, but start PE and be prepared to feel like a King!

If you are struggling mentally, pm any time and I will do my best to help you feel better. I have been where you are and I still struggle sometimes but if you are low, you can talk in confidence and candidly and I or some of the other guys I'm sure will be glad to help boost your esteem.

Peace brother

Very nice :)
 
thx for the kind words i will try now to wear the extender for 9-10 hours daily and in the evening i will do a bathmate sesion plus kegels(tru the day) and some manual streching before it and i hope i can get those desired 18,19cm and some girth to and i think i will buy a cockring for after the bathmate sesion cause the pump efect goes away to quick,i hope the iritaion will not get to bad on my penis base,now a qestion how do you wear the extender upward or down? it the manual its saying up and left or right and then the plastic circle iritaits my skin.And how much months you guys think i will need to wear the extender to get those desired lenght gains thx again for your help guys and kind words of suport.
 
Thathing;656026 said:
a qestion how do you wear the extender upward or down?

Down,if you wear it up it will target the tunica,if you wear it down it will target the ligaments..so down.

Thathing;656026 said:
And how much months you guys think i will need to wear the extender to get those desired lenght gains

I see you want to gain an inch ..if you wear it 9-10 hours a day and you have a solid stretching routine i'd say you can gain 1 inch in 2 months..it depends on intesnity.

Thathing;656026 said:
and what you think should i put on hydrocortisone cream alredy before i put the extender on?
I don't see how this would help...i don't even understand how the plastic circle is causing you trouble..how can the circle cause you iritation?I mean it's just there..you get iritated just by touching the circle?

Thathing;656026 said:
i think i will buy a cockring for after the bathmate sesion cause the pump efect goes away to quick
Yep that's a good idea,you can wear the SG head strap as a cock ring if you don't want to spend extra money on a cock ring,it works so good.
 
Thathing;654113 said:
Helo im 24 years old and very depresed about my size and in the last time im thinking of suicide so i asking for help here.My erected lenght is 16,5 almost 17 cm(it is after bathmate sesion) (bone presed 18cm) and erected girth 13,5cm on my tickest part,flacid lenght is 9,5cm also small head,my problem of hawing a small dick afected my hole life for many years now and im very depresed about it.Im not dating anyone i had sex once in my life very drunk and it didnt go good,that was many years ago im avoiding gilrls cause the idea of leting my pants down is very scary for me and two girls told me already i have a smalI one,i im very disapointet in my dick when im wearing something i always watch down that it dount stand out and no body can see that im so litle which realy hurts ,i duount go swimm cause im afraid after i come out of the water evrybody stare at me and that goes now for over 5 6 years ,i do PE for a good year or more and get some litle gains but not what would satisfy me.Im a normal or good loking guy and had chances to date nice girls but avoid it cause im so scared about myself my selfconfidence is zero even below that i have also small bals to if i masturbate evry day or even the next one my ejaculation is very poor and very litle sperm fluid, i tried andro penis for copule of months till i was geting very bad iritaion so i stoped now im using bahmate over half year which is fun but the pump efect doesnt even last 10 min then it goes normal flacid again and girth gains i didnt get at all and i need them cause i hawe a tiny dick,lenght i get litle.I realy dount now what to do anymore im so sad alone my heart can not do it a lot longer i want to love someone and finaly feel what SEX is,im afraid that ic canot satisfay a girl and very insecure in myself this dick destroyed my hole life i want to live fuck girls if anyone with my stats did get some sex or even a girl to orgasm please tell me and i would apreciate any help or advise you can give me here,i do kegels bathmate and streching evry day and sometimes testicle masage at night,i will post also photos of my dick thx all for your help.

It's funny how our mind pkay tricks on us right? You consider suicide due to a 17 cm penis?

When i grew up i knew this guy who got laid a lot due to this story about him.

Basicly the school had been to church and they had to go through the different rituals one if them is to kneel at the altar and then the priest was quoting the bible etc.

Anyways as he is kneeling he gets a massive erection and he doesn't want to stand up again. And people keep asking him and he is like: "naaah im just gonna stay here" eventually the teacher put him in his place told him to stand up immidiately and proceed to his chair.

And so he did. While he had a raging hardon underneath his jogging pants. Resulting in a tent standing out.

There was some giggles and some blushing (and hopefully a bad taste in the teachers mouth)

And he felt kind of awkward afterwards.

Now this insident had the girls roll calling around him. As he was now the new mountain to conquor.

You know what they called him?

Mr 17cm.

Yep thats right.

The size you almost consider suicide over. Is the same size one of my friends had several free sex partners from having.

Imagine that. 2 people same situation. One gets tons of pussy one considers suicide? If that doesn't make you think i don't know what will?

And just to be fair!

I have passed the 17cm mark with 1 cm.

And alot of guys in here are alot bigger.

You need to understand something.

This is not the beginners club.

If this was a fitness center. We are not the proud guys who just archived our six pack abs.

No we are the guys who will blend a fucking whole salmon drink it! Bash our head into the mirror bleeding and screaming in agony. Only to try and defeat our old PR in a deadlift.

If you start comparing yourself with the veterans in here. It is like comparing yourself with the beasts in the gym.

The truth is that very few woman actually prefer the beast.

Now most girls fantasize about a beast. And perhaps want to try one (like we look at strippers) but none of us wants to date a stripper long term. (Well im a freak so i would)

My point being.

This is the brotherhood of beasts. We can teach you to become big. And we have all the resources etc.

But when you look at the numbers around here (and in ���� for that matter) you have to understand that you look at people who dedicated a whole lot of time on that matter. And comparing yourself to this will be unhealthy.

However! Look to the brotherhood for support. Coaching. And friendship. And you can gain just about any size you could possible dream of. (Some goals take longer than others)

Meanwhile we will do iur best to take away your unhealthy illusion on what size you should be.

Im what some people would call a player.
I have a whole lot of sex with a whole lot of women.

And i did that when i was smaller than your current size aswell.

For me the biggest gift i got through my travel was the opportunity to experience sex with different versions of my own cock.

That part was funny as hell :)

So buddy. Cheer up. Stop letting the world tell you how you are supposed to look and behave and be packing. And start taking control of your own thoughts.

And hey. Join the club. This is a fucking cool place to be!

If you by any chance decides to grow huge. Start a progress log and send me the link in a PM i would love to see your path from insecure nice guy. To the "rock out with your cock out playa type of guy!"

Peace from Aim.
 
Aimingforthetop;656054 said:
It's funny how our mind pkay tricks on us right? You consider suicide due to a 17 cm penis?

When i grew up i knew this guy who got laid a lot due to this story about him.

Basicly the school had been to church and they had to go through the different rituals one if them is to kneel at the altar and then the priest was quoting the bible etc.

Anyways as he is kneeling he gets a massive erection and he doesn't want to stand up again. And people keep asking him and he is like: "naaah im just gonna stay here" eventually the teacher put him in his place told him to stand up immidiately and proceed to his chair.

And so he did. While he had a raging hardon underneath his jogging pants. Resulting in a tent standing out.

There was some giggles and some blushing (and hopefully a bad taste in the teachers mouth)

And he felt kind of awkward afterwards.

Now this insident had the girls roll calling around him. As he was now the new mountain to conquor.

You know what they called him?

Mr 17cm.

Yep thats right.

The size you almost consider suicide over. Is the same size one of my friends had several free sex partners from having.

Imagine that. 2 people same situation. One gets tons of pussy one considers suicide? If that doesn't make you think i don't know what will?

And just to be fair!

I have passed the 17cm mark with 1 cm.

And alot of guys in here are alot bigger.

You need to understand something.

This is not the beginners club.

If this was a fitness center. We are not the proud guys who just archived our six pack abs.

No we are the guys who will blend a fucking whole salmon drink it! Bash our head into the mirror bleeding and screaming in agony. Only to try and defeat our old PR in a deadlift.

If you start comparing yourself with the veterans in here. It is like comparing yourself with the beasts in the gym.

The truth is that very few woman actually prefer the beast.

Now most girls fantasize about a beast. And perhaps want to try one (like we look at strippers) but none of us wants to date a stripper long term. (Well im a freak so i would)

My point being.

This is the brotherhood of beasts. We can teach you to become big. And we have all the resources etc.

But when you look at the numbers around here (and in ���� for that matter) you have to understand that you look at people who dedicated a whole lot of time on that matter. And comparing yourself to this will be unhealthy.

However! Look to the brotherhood for support. Coaching. And friendship. And you can gain just about any size you could possible dream of. (Some goals take longer than others)

Meanwhile we will do iur best to take away your unhealthy illusion on what size you should be.

Im what some people would call a player.
I have a whole lot of sex with a whole lot of women.

And i did that when i was smaller than your current size aswell.

For me the biggest gift i got through my travel was the opportunity to experience sex with different versions of my own cock.

That part was funny as hell :)

So buddy. Cheer up. Stop letting the world tell you how you are supposed to look and behave and be packing. And start taking control of your own thoughts.

And hey. Join the club. This is a fucking cool place to be!

If you by any chance decides to grow huge. Start a progress log and send me the link in a PM i would love to see your path from insecure nice guy. To the "rock out with your cock out playa type of guy!"

Peace from Aim.

excellent post man. this is my first post on this thread, I have been a member since 2013 I think but I was unable to post comments so I never minded anyways here's my story bro, growing up I too was like u. I was afraid of having aex with girls, i blew all of my relationships once it came to the point of us having sex because of size, I discovered ���� at just before I discovered masturbation so seeing those huge johnnies there had a bad bad impact on my brain. I was 5.2" in length and 4.7 in girth all my life before doing pe. what happened was after blowing all these relationships through high school and till my first and second year in varsity( can u imagine the torture?) till I met my ex gf on my first year at varsity, we didn't have sex till 2009, I went to varsity in 2007. I tried my best to ruin that relationship also to avoid sex, but she wouldn't budge, she was undumpable, so in 2009 I gave in had sex with her , first round literally lasted less than 15 seconds, it was like I was having a wet dream.
anyways during the same year I had sex with another girl I liked a lot( yes I cheated on my gf but I was in varsity and she was on the other side of the country so.. ya) had sex with her several times, and another then another, all this time I never had a girl complain to me abt the size of my dick, anyways it was always something that bothered me so it was something I had to take care of.I have always wanted a bigger dick because I knew it was the only thing holding me back ( limiting beliefs) from fucking any girl I wanted. so I did pe on and off , didn't gain shit , but had loads of sex with other girls didn't hear any complaints about my size.
the problem here is in ur mind bro, just grow ur cock and u will have a quality sex life, anyone one who tells u you have a small dick with ur size is just putting u down to bring up her own value. if I had ur sixe I would never had started pe. ever.

Im wriitng this quite drunk so forgive me for any grammar and spelling issues. bro just be consistent with pe for 6 months 3 months a time and u will be amazed with the results I promise you
 
I will try my best,tomorow im starting with the extender i will wear it down then i hope the iritaion want come if yes i post a pic here so you can see it and maybe help me,childish can i waer the head thing from andropenis extender as a cockring or is that to tight?Now im seeing that im prety fuckt up in the head haha about my size and it want be beter in one day but i will give my best,in higscool i was the player like you i mean i didnt fuck but all girls lliket me then when i was seeing other dicks(canot be that all are showers and im the only grower) and they was all bigger then me flacid i started going in to myself now so many years later im realy fuckt up and insecure and you guys dount know how that shit changed me as a person im silent completley the difrence what i was confidence below zero and realy avoiding evry day life,it didnt bring me just bad things also one good thing but that is another story,anyway im seeing time is pasing quick and im geting now 25 in couple of months and im still alone and fuckt only once completly wasted and it didnt go good,i also have alkohol problems for many years and i think the main reason is you know already what, i see i hawe a lot of problems in my head that are an illusion but after so many years im in that state its not easy escape from there,im very hapy im at this forum i mean im here alredy for over an year but i didnt do PE very commited but i will now i hawe promised to myself cause i dount want to wake up one day hawe 60 years and cry that i never fealt real sex and love in my life so im going to.Tomorow im starting with extender again bathamte im using already for more then half year but why you guys think i didnt gain any girth size and what you think about my girht at all 13,5 cm thikest part im also afraid im a litle to thin.This is it for now thx for your help again im starting tomorow with the extender 9-10 hours daily and bathamte at evening and will not measure for 2 months cause it devotimates me if i dount see gains if i mesaure to much.
 
^ You sound just like it happened to me when my honey said I wasn't that big. To begin with she was a little more built than me but I liked her so much lol. Well at least she was when we were sixteen now I look more like an adult, but that's in the past I have no use for those memories now.

I literally thought I was gods gift to women untill that happened XD, I got into drugs, and alcohol but I think I would have done that regardless tbh, thank god I'm sober for more than half a year today. I never plan to drink or drug again because like my honey that part of my life is over.

I care alot about matters of size because we all pretty much had the same insecurity, and we'll never forget where we come from.

My routine is a bit of pumping to get some expansion going then I dive into jelqs,ssj,clamps, and anything I feel is expanding at that moment. I do just right amount which I'm able to gauge by feel after months of practice. This way I can train virtually everyday Anybody can agree this is the quickest way to gain some good girth.
 
Thathing;656077 said:
can i waer the head thing from andropenis extender as a cockring or is that to tight
Yes that's what i'm talking about.Make sure it's not too tight , you want to slow down the circulation not to cut it off.
Thathing;656077 said:
also have alkohol problems for many years
You might wanna drop alchohol , smoking and drinking are very bad for PE..ever heard the term " whisky dick " ? alcohol will only bring you troubles , beside it will slow down your PE progress.
Thathing;656077 said:
Tomorow im starting with extender again bathamte im using already for more then half year but why you guys think i didnt gain any girth size
I hope you're not going chaotic with the bathmate and the extender...they are not in the same league..one is for length,one for girth..you need two different routines.Hope you read the SRT.
Thathing;656077 said:
what you think about my girht at all 13,5 cm thikest part im also afraid im a litle to thin
No worries man you're perfectly average in both length and girth.

My best advice would be :
- Work in two different sessions,one for length,where you do a solid manual stretching routine ( Like the begginers routine ) followed by a couple of hours in the extender and the second would be the girth work where you do the 5x5x3 routine ( you can find it in the SRT at the girth section ) where you do 5 minutes of bathmate followed by 5 minutes of SSJ , 3 times.
 
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Aimingforthetop;656054 said:
It's funny how our mind pkay tricks on us right? You consider suicide due to a 17 cm penis?

When i grew up i knew this guy who got laid a lot due to this story about him.

Basicly the school had been to church and they had to go through the different rituals one if them is to kneel at the altar and then the priest was quoting the bible etc.

Anyways as he is kneeling he gets a massive erection and he doesn't want to stand up again. And people keep asking him and he is like: "naaah im just gonna stay here" eventually the teacher put him in his place told him to stand up immidiately and proceed to his chair.

And so he did. While he had a raging hardon underneath his jogging pants. Resulting in a tent standing out.

There was some giggles and some blushing (and hopefully a bad taste in the teachers mouth)

And he felt kind of awkward afterwards.

Now this insident had the girls roll calling around him. As he was now the new mountain to conquor.

You know what they called him?

Mr 17cm.

Yep thats right.

The size you almost consider suicide over. Is the same size one of my friends had several free sex partners from having.

Imagine that. 2 people same situation. One gets tons of pussy one considers suicide? If that doesn't make you think i don't know what will?

And just to be fair!

I have passed the 17cm mark with 1 cm.

And alot of guys in here are alot bigger.

You need to understand something.

This is not the beginners club.

If this was a fitness center. We are not the proud guys who just archived our six pack abs.

No we are the guys who will blend a fucking whole salmon drink it! Bash our head into the mirror bleeding and screaming in agony. Only to try and defeat our old PR in a deadlift.

If you start comparing yourself with the veterans in here. It is like comparing yourself with the beasts in the gym.

The truth is that very few woman actually prefer the beast.

Now most girls fantasize about a beast. And perhaps want to try one (like we look at strippers) but none of us wants to date a stripper long term. (Well im a freak so i would)

My point being.

This is the brotherhood of beasts. We can teach you to become big. And we have all the resources etc.

But when you look at the numbers around here (and in ���� for that matter) you have to understand that you look at people who dedicated a whole lot of time on that matter. And comparing yourself to this will be unhealthy.

However! Look to the brotherhood for support. Coaching. And friendship. And you can gain just about any size you could possible dream of. (Some goals take longer than others)

Meanwhile we will do iur best to take away your unhealthy illusion on what size you should be.

Im what some people would call a player.
I have a whole lot of sex with a whole lot of women.

And i did that when i was smaller than your current size aswell.

For me the biggest gift i got through my travel was the opportunity to experience sex with different versions of my own cock.

That part was funny as hell :)

So buddy. Cheer up. Stop letting the world tell you how you are supposed to look and behave and be packing. And start taking control of your own thoughts.

And hey. Join the club. This is a fucking cool place to be!

If you by any chance decides to grow huge. Start a progress log and send me the link in a PM i would love to see your path from insecure nice guy. To the "rock out with your cock out playa type of guy!"

Peace from Aim.

CRAZY he is way too close to a great size...he needs to get the shit off his head he can gain an inch in 2 months or something....he needs to realize that he is bigger than most guys!!

i was 5.2 back in the day n yeah i was so depressed now things have changed bro start a routine n you will get massive in no time!! SRT is the key!!check the Newbie Routine too:)
 
shortdick;656094 said:
i was 5.2 back in the day n yeah i was so depressed now things have changed bro start a routine n you will get massive in no time!! SRT is the key!!check the Newbie Routine too:)

I never knew this:) You have made amazing gains!
 
What are your current stats shortdick?Or should i call you longdick?:)
 
ChilDsh;656279 said:
What are your current stats shortdick?Or should i call you longdick?:)

hahaha like your question but i don't think im big at all im so unsatisfied whit my size august 19 im going to have a measurement wish me luckLMAO
 
doublelongdaddy;656261 said:
I never knew this:) You have made amazing gains!

I was 5.something years ago n as i have written before i was so disappointed whit my size now im a lot more confident..Its been hard because i have spent months trying different exercises,routines etc n i just couldn't get to my goal,i had some temporary gains but i lost them..its been years since i started whit this.N i really don't want to stop soon..Despite the obstacles n bad times i want to continue:)
 
shortdick;656342 said:
I was 5.something years ago n as i have written before i was so disappointed whit my size now im a lot more confident..Its been hard because i have spent months trying different exercises,routines etc n i just couldn't get to my goal,i had some temporary gains but i lost them..its been years since i started whit this.N i really don't want to stop soon..Despite the obstacles n bad times i want to continue:)
This shit gets kinda addicting after awhile, a couple of years ago if somebody told me one day I'd be looking forward to hanging weights off my dick every day I'd have told them they were nuts !

To the OP, wrap some gauze, (we call it ace bandage in US) around the plastic base at the bottom of your extender if you're going to point it down, that should help with the comfort. Just wrap the bottom, if you wrap the whole thing the opening may be too small for your girth.
 
Also, wear the extender over your underwear, pull your dick through the slit and strap it on, the cloth of your underwear will protect you some from the plastic.
 
Jack Leg;656360 said:
This shit gets kinda addicting after awhile, a couple of years ago if somebody told me one day I'd be looking forward to hanging weights off my dick every day I'd have told them they were nuts !

I think many of us can relate to the same thing:) If someone told me I was going to be a voice of PE back in the day I would laugh my ass off, today it is a reality:)
 
Ok guys im back with some nice news and a nice pic for you and the comunity ,first i would like to thank dld about this site and all the help and change it gave to me also big thx to all the guys ho reply on my thread and help me.My bigest thank you is to owmaballs(Nate) ho was my coach and give me evry info and advice i needed both in pe and in evry other thing about life and im sure i couldnt achieve my gains whitout him.Im 18,5cm erect now flacid is 12 cm and girth go up to 14cm midshaft.Now about my routine(1,5months) evry morning 8 am warm up then streching from srt for about 20 min then aplied my extender and evry 1 hour hour and half i did remove and did behind the cheks streching for 5min extender i usualy wear for 7 to 8 hours a day and after i did bathmate sesion 2*7mins and the second sesion i do upfront bathmate streches and right after sesion i put a bathmate cockring on for 2 and half hours.It all wasnt easy(cause im lazy) but to all the newbies out here im for over an year on this site but this is the first time i did it realy comited not like usual cuple of days and then some not,do it and you want regreat it.About cementing my gains i will continue to use bathmate and cockring almost evry day will do a light 5min streching sesion evry two weeks i hope thats enoguh if not tell me,i was thinking to go with the extender to 19cm but im hapy wit this size and i also get some marks on my head so its enough.Now for the end you guys dount now how much these gains mean to me i now finaly feal to have the balls to date women and cant wait to fuck someone finaly,this gains will change my enitre life be sure,so comunity do your pe and keep gainig
best regards Thathing :))
 
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