Jelqing at 100 percent

As long as you have more expansion than your normal fully erect size, your good. Think about it, we are deforming the tissues, a few here claim the tissue is harder to deform while erect. I think completely different. Your erection gets rid of the guesswork cause your blood(erection) took the pressure off you. Its already stretched and vulnerable, making it easier to deform.

Girth Hammer;393468 said:

As long as you have more expansion than your normal fully erect size, your good. Think about it, we are deforming the tissues, a few here claim the tissue is harder to deform while erect. I think completely different. Your erection gets rid of the guesswork cause your blood(erection) took the pressure off you. Its already stretched and vulnerable, making it easier to deform.

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I tend to agree. This is one of the main reasons I've always (pretty much) not understood or believed the guys claiming low erection work provided any results for girth. Maybe for a very new guy, but someone with a well adapted penis, I highly doubt it.

When i started Penis Enlargement i did only jelq at about 50% of erection. NO GAIN IN GIRTH!
I switched to erect jelq (over 80%), manual clamp and compression (over 80% too), and BOOM!

pappamolla;393571 said:

When i started Penis Enlargement i did only jelq at about 50% of erection. NO GAIN IN GIRTH!
I switched to erect jelq (over 80%), manual clamp and compression (over 80% too), and BOOM!

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I hope this is the case with me..

I have just switched from low % jelqs to 90-100% wet jelqs. Hopefully I start getting new girth gains

Misus complaining it's too long now lol. So told her I'll thicken it up

I never do jelqs under 80%. Mainly because if i start jelqing at 50% i just get a full on erection as it feels nice. Haha. But even if i could keep it at 50%, i still wouldn't do it. I feel 80% would work better due to more blood in the penis before you even start jelqing.

Medicating;393580 said:

I never do jelqs under 80%. Mainly because if i start jelqing at 50% i just get a full on erection as it feels nice. Haha. But even if i could keep it at 50%, i still wouldn't do it. I feel 80% would work better due to more blood in the penis before you even start jelqing.

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Under 80%, IMO, is working length more than girth.

jetsetter439;392549 said:

I find that when I jelq at 100% i receive only very minimal expansion, or at least this is what it looks like to me. Is this normal? Should I be squeezing a bit harder? I guess my question is, how can you tell if your jelqs are effective when at 100%, as it doesn't always look like much is going on.. ?

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Expansion has nothing to do with growth.The temporary pumped up look of the penis or populary called "expansion" is just a temporary increased and retention of blood inside the penis.The growth happens when you rest.

I explain to people in a really simple way.Take a dumbell that weighs 5 kg and do 100 bicep curl reps with it you will get the best "pump" of your life.
Will it make your biceps grow? Ofc not.

The only way you can tell if your jelqs are effective are results =inches,centimeters>>ruler and your visual appearance cause eye is a unique "instrument".

laocoon;389247 said:

DLD may jelq at 100 percent, but what works for one guy might not work for another.
I personally prefer jelqing around 50-70 percent, and feel that erect jelqing doesnt work for me.
Granted, this is just how it FEELS for me, I have no idea whats actually effective.

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This has nothing to do with me,you,DLD this is something that has to do with our species homosapiens.

Jelqing at lower % isnt right anatomically and physiologically.

If you wanted to grow your biceps.Would you use weight thats 50% of your 1 RM(rep maximal) to make it bigger.Ofc not.The biceps will have no need to increase his size because it feels no "threat" by any means with that weight.There is no danger of rupturing hence no need to increase "itself".
Same goes with your penis.

When your jelqing at lower % youre just playing with your blood up and down the penis and your penis isnt threatend in any way hence it has no need to grow cause there is enough "empty space" inside the 2 chambers to play with that blood youre not actually "breaking" the penis tissue and capillars.

Jelqing should be done at 100% at the verge of cumming(thats why clamped jelqs are even more effective).

The results that people are reporting with low % jelqs are newbie gains mostly and doubtfull claims by some.

Jelqing at lower % is a good warmup for workout.
I use it for that to warmup my ligaments and penis tissue and prepare the little guy for annihiliation.

doublelongdaddy;393616 said:

Under 80%, IMO, is working length more than girth.

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Gonna do that then.

Jelqing at lower % isnt right anatomically and physiologically.

If you wanted to grow your biceps.Would you use weight thats 50% of your 1 RM(rep maximal) to make it bigger.Ofc not.The biceps will have no need to increase his size because it feels no "threat" by any means with that weight.There is no danger of rupturing hence no need to increase "itself".
Same goes with your penis.

When your jelqing at lower % youre just playing with your blood up and down the penis and your penis isnt threatend in any way hence it has no need to grow cause there is enough "empty space" inside the 2 chambers to play with that blood youre not actually "breaking" the penis tissue and capillars.

Jelqing should be done at 100% at the verge of cumming(thats why clamped jelqs are even more effective).

The results that people are reporting with low % jelqs are newbie gains mostly and doubtfull claims by some.

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Well explained!!!! :cool:
It's about logic: if you want to increase lenght, then you have to stimulate the penis over its normal state, so we do stretching.
If you want to increase girth, is the same, you have to stimulate the penis over its normal state, and in this case it means to stretching "horizontally" the chambers of the penis. With jelqing under 80% you don't achieve that. And that is why there are exercises more specific for that, see Clamping, Compression, Pumping etc.

Well, in reality, there's a lot more involved with muscles regarding whether or not they grow vs. whether the penis grows. With muscles, it's more about nutrients, protein synthesis, adaptation to work loads, and much more. There's also the central nervous system response and adaptation to stress from work loads to account for. I've seen for example, power lifters who are not ''huge'' by most people's standards, (5' 8'', 180lbs for example) who can bench press, squat, and deadlift 2-3 times their body weight. I've also seen ''huge'' guys (5' 9'', 240lbs for example) who could barely bench press, squat, or deadlift their own bodyweight...despite looking very strong. Many, many variables involved with muscle growth. That's why I have never cared for comparing muscle growth to penis growth. There's not a very direct correlation in reality. With the penis, it's more about stretching of tissue, and some scar tissue developing. It does not depend on how much protein or calorie consumption you take in before or after you Penis Enlargement as another example.

Working with low weights for high reps will indeed result in growth. So will working with heavy weights for low reps. Although the former is more for developing muscle size for ''looks'' and the latter is for developing STRENGTH first, then size.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

With muscles, it's more about nutrients, protein synthesis, adaptation to work loads, and much more.

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You can have the best nutrition backup in the world without adequate training stimuli your muscles wont grow.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

I've seen for example, power lifters who are not ''huge'' by most people's standards, (5' 8'', 180lbs for example) who can bench press, squat, and deadlift 2-3 times their body weight

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Strenght training is very diffrent then bodybuilding or muscle building.

Powerlifters mainly train their CNS so they can recruit more motorical units and be more motorically efficient.

Second training for powerlifting is very specific it is done by lifting heavy weights between 80-100% of your 1 RM for low reps and with many sets.
You never go to failiure and you try to stay fresh during the training so you can do bigger workload.
Example if you do 2 sets of bench press with 100 kgs and you achieve 10 reps and go to failure you did workload of 2 tons and i do 10 sets with 100 kgs for 5 reps and i never go to failure i did workload of 5 tons = 2.5 times more then you.

The systematization and periodization is of outmost importance and requires very high level of specific knowledge.

The thecniques that are used in powerlifting are completely diffrent then in bodybuilding when we talk about 3 main powerlifting exercises: bench press,deadlift and squat.

In bodybuilding the goal is to induce hyperthrophy(muscle growth) and to isolate the working muscle as much as possible and stress him as much as possible with adequate weight(force).

In power lifting the only goal is to lift more weight,kgs,pounds and the way to accomplish that is to recruit as much as muscle mass as possible and to use leverage to your advantage by positioning your body a ceartain way and doing the exercise with certain technique.I dont wanna go into details.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

Many, many variables involved with muscle growth.

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Not many only 2.

First variable is to get adequate training stimuli = meaning to stress the working muscle with a force that he isnt used to overcome for 6-10 reps and to achieve failure in other words the goal is to "overload" the muscle with enough force(weight) so that the muscle has no choice but to adapt and increase the diagonal size of the muscle fibers because of the potential risk of a rupture that muscle is beeing threatened with .
That way same force is beeing distributed over greater space and the muscle is saved.

Second variable is to make adequate logistic anabolic(enviroment) support for the muscle: adequate nutrition(enough proteins,carbohydrates and healthy fats),minerals and vitamins so body can function optimally and enough water the most important nutrient.You must have positive caloric intake and the best scenario is if you would have bigger amounts of hormones(testosteron,HGH) in your body to make things even more anabolic and that requires taking external artifical hormones.

Adequate rest= enough of sleep(deep sleep) because this is where most of the adaptation occurs.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

That's why I have never cared for comparing muscle growth to penis growth.There's not a very direct correlation in reality

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There is a big correlation.Its the same principle but diffrent mechanics.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

With the penis, it's more about stretching of tissue, and some scar tissue developing. It does not depend on how much protein or calorie consumption you take in before or after you Penis Enlargement as another example.

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Thats what makes Penis Enlargement even "easier" from that point of view then bodybuilding.Nutrition has negligible role and the adaptation mechanism is the "practicaly" the same.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

Working with low weights for high reps will indeed result in growth

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Not it wont it will only "build" muscle endurance.If that was the case marathon runners would be the biggest human beeings on the planet after all they make the most reps.

stillwantmore2;393711 said:

So will working with heavy weights for low reps

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No it wont you will gain strenght and your bone-joint-cartillage system will get "thicker".

Last i want to add that i am a professional conditioning and fitness coach with degree in sport science so i know what im saying here and anyone can ask me a question.

Who are you Blue my evil twin brother??

Blue vs. Still in the big ring tonight!

$25.00 a ticket

I've bumped this thread because it is relevant to something i was discussing earlier and because i think the comment from Blue Whale below is spot on..

Jelqing should be done at 100% at the verge of cumming(thats why clamped jelqs are even more effective).

The results that people are reporting with low % jelqs are newbie gains mostly and doubtfull claims by some.

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doublelongdaddy;393616 said:

Under 80%, IMO, is working length more than girth.

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I'm actually skeptical of this (though somebody with greater anatomical knowledge than me can perhaps back you here).

My understanding of the tunica is that during jelqing the pressure forces 3-dimensional expansion which is why we see both length and girth increases however we see a bigger measurable length increase because your just adding/stretching out the penis in two dimensions whilst your girth as a 3-dimensional measurement increases at a slower rate (though the volume increases significantly faster than length). Because of my supposition here i actually believe that lower intensity jelqing simply delivers a lower volume increase all round hence we simply see a length gain still because of the two dimensional measurement whilst in reality high intensity jelqing would have delivered both a larger length and girth increase due to the larger volume increase.

What do you mean by 3d? Lost on this but very interested.

doublelongdaddy;520603 said:

What do you mean by 3d? Lost on this but very interested.

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I've explained it poorly.

The measurement on a ruler for example is a flat 2-dimensional measurement because we only measure 1 plain (flat - up the ruler or down) whilst girth is a 3-dimensional measurement (circumference) and what i mean to say it that the tunica expands like a balloon in all directions under pressure. We simply perceive larger length increases because the measurement is 2 dimensional and thus the penis pushes outward (from the inside) whilst girth gains are spread through the entire circumference.

Put more simply if you draw a rectangle to represent the penis and add 1cm on top the rectangle expands 1cm forwards. The penis is however like a cuboid so when the tunica expands in all directions we only perceive a length increase whilst in reality we also saw the area of the cuboid increase via an increase in girth which was smaller on the circumference but bigger in area.

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My original point was that i do not think that low erection jelqing simply targets length, i think that it yields lower gains all round and that we simply perceive it to be length because we cannot viaualise volume.

I'm loving this science breakdown.

College said:

I wish jelqing while 100% was safe because while doing my jelqs I'm usually end up being 100 percent erect then I wait awhile to get down to 60-80 percent. Anyone jelq at 100 or what are some good percentages to jelq at.

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80% level of erection is the best erection level to jelq at. I think 100% level erection can cause a thrombosis vein.

I always start at 100% and then I fade to about 90%.