Inner Penis Stretching

JakeM82;659886 said:

It definitely causes pain for me to grip behind the balls, I have to just get as low as I can on the shaft for my expressive stretches.

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Same here. I get much more internal penis by going deep into the base and stretching from there.

aha guy... I'm happy to introduce... (drums roll)... the "Behind The Balls Bundled Stretch".

First, an example of BTB stretch. The grip is the easiest I found. I have one or two others but the photo is self explanatory I find.

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Then...taadaaa.. here is a twist with a bundled stretch, using the other hand to turn the internal penis in order to stretch harder.

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True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the LM but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched

shortdick;659968 said:

True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the LM but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched

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Sure.

To prevent confusion, because this is very different:

BTC = Between the cheeks (pulling towards this direction and holding at the base of the shaft)
BTB = Behind the balls (holding manually the hidden penis, as close as possible to your butt hole)

Lengthmaster is surely great for stretching from the shaft, but for me it's really different.

I have to check for RedZulu posts because I find too bad this subject has not been more detailed.

When you hold behind the balls, when you massage, jelq or manually stretch there, you are directly in contact with the body. There is almost no interference with the skin of the upper part or with the suspensory ligaments. When we speak about working the internal penis, for me pulling with LM at the base above the balls compared to gripping directly the lower penis behind the balls is like knocking at a door or being directly inside the house. This is not an offense to DLD or the Lengthmaster to consider there are still things to discover here.

The two immediate interesting effects I see with internal penis grips are:

- you know how to get some immediate temporary gain (1 or 2 cm in length, some girth) by clamping there a little bit and engorging the dick with blood without entering in erection. Useful for showers in public space and for having more grip area for bundled stretch. If I could manage to keep the same blood volume for longer time, I wonder if it may increase flaccid volume. I start thinking about clamping the internal penis with an open (internal) cock ring or something else (a PE modified version of this kind of thing for hair: http://womenmag.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/pince-cheveux-coiffeuse-large.jpg)

- chiefly, you can feel, massage this part. Now when I'm erect, this area is bigger and harder than before, so I noticed some change. I included Phallosan in my routine, but I'm convinced my BTB work is responsible for that. I would compare that with fitness and musculation for getting back my 6-pack abs. Of course I can (and have to) do fitness workout but I also focus on this part mentally and personaly, I felt that massaging the muscles helped to get more definition and probably helped to get rid of some fat. So for me, it is a logical conclusion that working manually BTB will have complementary effect on erection quality and gains. Now, I need to improve my technics for pulling, twisting and assisting that in a passive way for longer than 2 or 3 minutes (I lack privacy and time, but I spend long time sitting at work).

So you think is a more effective than Doing the base grip LM bundled stretches..........yeah i understand the exercise is grabbing the area between the tests and the anus way too close to the anus.. I think the LM can really pull the inner penis out whit out doing the exercise you are talking about.But if the exercise you explained above really works n can get gains quicker would be an amazing contribution!!!..SRT six months 2 inches BTB exercises...would be great to know about your progression whit the BTB

shortdick;660115 said:

So you think is a more effective than Doing the base grip LM bundled stretches..........yeah i understand the exercise is grabbing the area between the tests and the anus way too close to the anus.. I think the LM can really pull the inner penis out whit out doing the exercise you are talking about.But if the exercise you explained above really works n can get gains quicker would be an amazing contribution!!!..SRT six months 2 inches BTB exercises...would be great to know about your progression whit the BTB

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That's it.

No doubt Lenghtmaster is great for expressing internal penis. I intend to get one in the future.
I don't say BTB is better than LM.

I just say BTB is something complementary that should help bring gains, whatever you use aside of that (LM, ADS, etc.). I included in my daily routine, got the phallosan and it seems my gains have accelerated. My flaccid gains is also really interesting.

It it hard to say what brings more, but I believe in the mix of all that.

With internal bundled stretch, I can prepare the "internal hidden tunica" just the same way DLD recommends to apply bundled stretches manually before putting an ADS.

This is just common sense.

Why working only on the visible part (warming, stretching, preparing tunica, working girth...) when you can try to apply most of your manual exercises to the whole penis?

The main problem is that people do not know how to grab this part, of feel/fear some pain.
You can wind up completely a penis shaft with the whole hand, and that is not the case for the internal penis.

So it takes some time to find the proper technics, but this is a minor obstacle once you think it deserves some time.

I'll publish my logs and some photos.

I lack time for daily PE but you can expect to hear about visible gains on a half-month time scale.

^Nice bro I remember once I gained about half-inch length, and some girth just from low grip stretches *high-five*
I'm looking forward to your gains.

shortdick;659968 said:

True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the LM but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched

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As the skin stretches the pain will go away.

doublelongdaddy;660211 said:

As the skin stretches the pain will go away.

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Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.

JakeM82;660217 said:

Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.

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skin stretching n gains hope going to the next level whit the LM

Doundar;660148 said:

That's it.

No doubt Lenghtmaster is great for expressing internal penis. I intend to get one in the future.
I don't say BTB is better than LM.

I just say BTB is something complementary that should help bring gains, whatever you use aside of that (LM, ADS, etc.). I included in my daily routine, got the phallosan and it seems my gains have accelerated. My flaccid gains is also really interesting.

It it hard to say what brings more, but I believe in the mix of all that.

With internal bundled stretch, I can prepare the "internal hidden tunica" just the same way DLD recommends to apply bundled stretches manually before putting an ADS.

This is just common sense.

Why working only on the visible part (warming, stretching, preparing tunica, working girth...) when you can try to apply most of your manual exercises to the whole penis?

The main problem is that people do not know how to grab this part, of feel/fear some pain.
You can wind up completely a penis shaft with the whole hand, and that is not the case for the internal penis.

So it takes some time to find the proper technics, but this is a minor obstacle once you think it deserves some time.

I'll publish my logs and some photos.

I lack time for daily PE but you can expect to hear about visible gains on a half-month time scale.

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sure would be amazing to know about your gains....n the exercises you could develop

JakeM82;660217 said:

Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.

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Exactly. And when we approach another exercise that we never had before there may be skin stretch necessary then too, so this is not only a newbie issue. Many guys, who use the LengthMaster, talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains.

> Many guys, who use the LengthMaster, talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains

For me, this is exactly the problem I see with Lengthmaster andits full potential. When I stretch (for flaccid stretch lenght for example), I have the feeling that the ligs and the upper part of the skin (on the pubic bone, I mean the external skin that hold the penis) both prevent from growing longer.

When I stretch flaccid from midshaft, it would be like if most of the tension was on the pubic skin + tunica, not the internal parts, and maybe I should work as much on that, or maybe more, as I work on internal penis or tunica.

A scientific experiment to do would aim to show where the skin stretch /resistance is at its strongest and where the skin prevents length gain, so that we can work harder on this part.
Maybe an idea would be to draw a square matrix on the flaccid skin and see the deformations, and where no additional deformation is possible when you put an additional vertical force for example.

We all can feel the stretching is not uniform, and the parts (skin, tunica or other) to improve are those that resist the most to the manual stretch, or that slow down the overall volume gain.

This kind of pic can help see what I mean :
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You can find on internet some graphic visualisation of the most intense stretch on rulers, plastic components, etc.. Sometimes they illustrate the effect of something that prevents from moving or that changes a direction, and you discover that the stretch is more intense or has more amplitude. That's why A-stretch or bendlded stretches are great.

Maybe there are some videos that would help to understand. I have to check internet, those are not exactly what can describe what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asBW0Ojc0bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRS2A9w-Y88

The first screenshot of this video shows the distribution of constraint and deformation, and explains why bundled stretches rock (2-direction stress)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soYwaW54WRg

Are there any existing pics / models of this kind for skin/penis stretching ? If no, we could create them for PE science lol.

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Maybe this kind of technology would help measure the constraints, see where deformations are bigger and then which part of skin/tissue to extend to get longer/wider expansion lol
Ultrathin "Diagnostic Skin" Allows Continuous Patient Monitoring | National Institute of Biomedical Imaging and Bioengineering

Doundar;660381 said:

> Many guys, who use the LengthMaster, talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains

For me, this is exactly the problem I see with Lengthmaster andits full potential. When I stretch (for flaccid stretch lenght for example), I have the feeling that the ligs and the upper part of the skin (on the pubic bone, I mean the external skin that hold the penis) both prevent from growing longer.

When I stretch flaccid from midshaft, it would be like if most of the tension was on the pubic skin + tunica, not the internal parts, and maybe I should work as much on that, or maybe more, as I work on internal penis or tunica.

A scientific experiment to do would aim to show where the skin stretch /resistance is at its strongest and where the skin prevents length gain, so that we can work harder on this part.
Maybe an idea would be to draw a square matrix on the flaccid skin and see the deformations, and where no additional deformation is possible when you put an additional vertical force for example.

We all can feel the stretching is not uniform, and the parts (skin, tunica or other) to improve are those that resist the most to the manual stretch, or that slow down the overall volume gain.

This kind of pic can help see what I mean :
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You can find on internet some graphic visualisation of the most intense stretch on rulers, plastic components, etc.. Sometimes they illustrate the effect of something that prevents from moving or that changes a direction, and you discover that the stretch is more intense or has more amplitude. That's why A-stretch or bendlded stretches are great.

Maybe there are some videos that would help to understand. I have to check internet, those are not exactly what can describe what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asBW0Ojc0bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRS2A9w-Y88

The first screenshot of this video shows the distribution of constraint and deformation, and explains why bundled stretches rock (2-direction stress)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soYwaW54WRg

Are there any existing pics / models of this kind for skin/penis stretching ? If no, we could create them for PE science lol.

Edit :
Maybe this kind of technology would help measure the constraints, see where deformations are bigger and then which part of skin/tissue to extend to get longer/wider expansion lol
Ultrathin "Diagnostic Skin" Allows Continuous Patient Monitoring | National Institute of Biomedical Imaging and Bioengineering

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Great work! Excellent!

Great PE science LOL,the skin on the pubic area gets really stretched n gets "broken" n allows the inner penis to expand..whit the LM is a reality,while im strteching BTC i stretch n i can feel the stretching,but i can only stretch the skin gradually...LOL

yeah i stretch the skin when i hit certain angles,true ....n i think is opening the door to gains...i had this idea before i could own a LM,that once i had one,my gains would come to me in a much easier way..n yeah im almost sure about that,if a man spends a three month period using the device n following a proper routine he can get amazing Gains....

I think you have to continue whit your BTB exercises n let us know about the gains you may get...

shortdick;660518 said:

I think you have to continue whit your BTB exercises n let us know about the gains you may get...

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As I explaind in my recent logs, I think my dick gained 1 inch in between 3-6 months. The growth has clearly accelerated in the last 3 months because of this combination:

• having more PE sessions (per week and even per day, passing from 1/day to 2-3/day) and longer PE sessions (from 30 mins in start 2015 to up-to 4-5 hours/day with Phallosan added in july)
• using Phallosan
• using more intense stretches
• using BTB stretches

In fact, I grew more in three months than in two years. PE results may differ from everyone's genes, skin or other parameters, but I'm the proof that technics + method + equipment is from very far the best friend to invest on.

Also, results came from applying SRT principles. I'm amazed to see how DLD put us in the right way. I would compare him to Ross Jeffries or Mystery, for those who know about pickup, or a John Rohn / Anthony Robbins in personal development.

I don't know if I'll get to a plateau but I expect to gain a further inch in length. My only problem is to have the necessary time and privacy.

Another interesting thing:
I pumped yesterday night for girth, and did nothing related to length. This morning, my hidden penis was well engorged, quite impressive, I rarely had it so big. I think I'll split length and girth work, as discussed in another thread related to stretching after girth work.

Doundar;660528 said:

I pumped yesterday night for girth, and did nothing related to length. This morning, my hidden penis was well engorged, quite impressive, I rarely had it so big. I think I'll split length and girth work, as discussed in another thread related to stretching after girth work.

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How cool! I'm currently trying to do lots of bathmates, and you inspire me to complement it with some good ole low-grip stretches:blush:

Btb stretching feels very awkward for me but I still appreciate the well thought out posts doundar! Also your thing about the square matrix showing us where deformation is and isn't happening, it makes me think bundled stretching is the answer because you are hitting the WHOLE tunica. Very nice ideas I hope you keep posting

acromegaly;660539 said:

Btb stretching feels very awkward for me but I still appreciate the well thought out posts doundar!

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It feels this way for many but in the cases where a man's ligaments are too long the only way he can make ligament gains is by using BTC stretching. In the BTC position the ligaments will never be too long.

doublelongdaddy;660585 said:

It feels this way for many but in the cases where a man's ligaments are too long the only way he can make ligament gains is by using BTC stretching. In the BTC position the ligaments will never be too long.

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everytime i stretch btc i can feel real stretching n i how the skin gets ripped...BTC to the center is a quite powerful stretching