Ice has shown to be better than heat for Stretching.A case for cold water pumping.

Next time you do girth dip your erected penus in ice water when your done(cool-down). They say it leaves your flaccid more full afterwards.
I was going to try it but I forgot

templnite;651066 said:

Next time you do girth dip your erected penus in ice water when your done(cool-down). They say it leaves your flaccid more full afterwards.
I was going to try it but I forgot

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I have never tried any of this cold water work but it seems like enough are interested that I should give it a go. I will incorporate this into my routine for a month and see if I se a difference.

templnite;651066 said:

Next time you do girth dip your erected penus in ice water when your done(cool-down). They say it leaves your flaccid more full afterwards.
I was going to try it but I forgot

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Tried this last night with my current routine

Current:
morning:
(due to my schedule this is usually what I have time for)
5 min x 3 at increasing pressure in BM in the shower in the morning, 1 second kegels for all first set, 2 second for all second set, 1 minute for all last set (5-1 minute holds) This really helps reduce fluid buildup
DLD Newbie stretch routine with LM, slight mod (1 regular stretch, 1 -360 degree stretch, 1 +360 degree stretch, in all directions for 30 seconds each)
UJW until evening

Evening:
warmup in heating pad for 10 minutes
Same stretching routine as above (modified DLD newbie stretch routine with LM)
20-30 minutes of high erection level jelqing
5-10 minutes of clamped edging and kegels

Now normally I'd throw the ol dick into the heating pad for another 10 minutes, then spend the rest of the evening in the VLC/SizeGenetics - Penis Traction Extender combo, which works fine too, but I tried the 5x3 set again with cold water in the BM to cool off, to see how'd it go. First set, pumped to 180, second set, pumped to 190, third set, past the 200 mark, probably would've been at 208~210 had there been a mark for that, and holy fuck was that intense. I was kegeling the whole time, but I had done some decent kegel sets earlier in the day so I was getting really tired by that last set, but by the time I was out of the BM, my dick was hanging HUUUUUGE. I measured my girth at that point, and post pump I was sitting pretty at a mid-shaft 6.5", and cause I was bored, I wanted to see what my BPER length was. I literally could not believe my eyes as I saw my dick hit the 8" mark for the first time in my life. This is good shit guys, good shit. Yes, there was a bit of fluid buildup, but it was fairly light in comparison to what it would've been under the same pressures in hot water, and the buildup went away in about two hours. I did however, go right into the SG right after the session, and the stretch was better than it had been before!

When I woke up the next morning, I realized the VLC neck strap thing had popped off as it usually does in the night, but I saw that my flaccid hang was about as thick as my usual erect girth, and that I was hanging at an estimate of 5".

Pretty fucking nice find man, everyone should give this a shot as their cooldown after a routine. Definitely worth it.

It's like a heat sink effect?

huge-girth;651063 said:

I used cold water for my girth session last night and my expansion wasn't as big as it used to be when I used warm water.

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I mentioned in an earlier post on this this is normal and to be expected.If you check out my earlier post it explains though it's shrinking In appearance it's still Increasing internal vasodilation. Also did you do all cold pumping or hot then cold? I think how this order occurs is important for Max potential.

Let's elaborate on expansion and make sure we are all on the same page.

Expansion to me is the expansion of the tunica, CC, CS, and smooth muscle. Everything that expands for girth in an erection. When your getting out of a hot pumping your skin other soft tissues stretches and expandand, and will get some lymph fluid. This leads to very large appearance.

With cold we have to view it slightly different. The science mention above explains how it COULD expand the tunica and the internal tissues easier. With cold pumping those soft tissues contract to trap internal heat and for me dispels lymph fluid better. Even if we get more internal expansion from cold, it will still look smaller compared to hot pumping with less internal expansion due to the vasoconstriction on the skin and soft tissue. COLD PUMPING WILL NEVER Appear as large as hot pumping. This is why I feel it might never take off.

The question now is when is it best to use cold/ice and how long for? Right now I never done a complete cold pumping session for all my sets. I don't think Nessairly a complete cold focus would be as beneficial as hot and then cold as they bitg effect the penis differently . What I THINK could be best and experimenting is ice water pumping last. The heat will stretch the skin all the soft tissues. Then in while the cold will contract the expandand soft tissues in a in expanded state helping to cement. .when doing cold first you won't get that soft tissue expansion . Last I do longer last set 10-15 minutes of ice or coldest water I can. Maybe a hot, cold, hot like in cryotherapy is another option but I think you would still need a longer cold set.

templnite;651177 said:

It's like a heat sink effect?

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Not really, a heatsink would just draw heat away from something for the effect of cooling it down, and while it does that, it's more of a solidifying effect, as someone said earlier in this thread. Causes the penis to cool off in the expanded position, similar to someone using the UJW to heal in an extended state, or an extender to do the same thing.

Bluetard kinda just disproved me about the larger appearance at least for him, but hey if it's working that's great.

Oh I thought you were training with cold to allow more expansion with less inflammation.
That heat would cause the tissues to become fatigued quicker whereas cold would allow more safe expansion to happen.

Next time ill do like you, and "freeze" my expansion right after my jelqs. Hopefully it even has a positive influence on eq as well.

templnite;651203 said:

Oh I thought you were training with cold to allow more expansion with less inflammation.
That heat would cause the tissues to become fatigued quicker whereas cold would allow more safe expansion to happen.

Next time ill do like you, and "freeze" my expansion right after my jelqs. Hopefully it even has a positive influence on eq as well.

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Yeah, there ya go. I still don't think heatsink is the word your looking for, maybe cementing sans inflammation? Either way, you got the idea.

Thats what I am talking about, lots of good feedback and enough Brothers to prove if this works. Keep up the good work Brothers.

ma999;651197 said:

I mentioned in an earlier post on this this is normal and to be expected.If you check out my earlier post it explains though it's shrinking In appearance it's still Increasing internal vasodilation. Also did you do all cold pumping or hot then cold? I think how this order occurs is important for Max potential.

Let's elaborate on expansion and make sure we are all on the same page.

Expansion to me is the expansion of the tunica, CC, CS, and smooth muscle. Everything that expands for girth in an erection. When your getting out of a hot pumping your skin other soft tissues stretches and expandand, and will get some lymph fluid. This leads to very large appearance.

With cold we have to view it slightly different. The science mention above explains how it COULD expand the tunica and the internal tissues easier. With cold pumping those soft tissues contract to trap internal heat and for me dispels lymph fluid better. Even if we get more internal expansion from cold, it will still look smaller compared to hot pumping with less internal expansion due to the vasoconstriction on the skin and soft tissue. COLD PUMPING WILL NEVER Appear as large as hot pumping. This is why I feel it might never take off.

The question now is when is it best to use cold/ice and how long for? Right now I never done a complete cold pumping session for all my sets. I don't think Nessairly a complete cold focus would be as beneficial as hot and then cold as they bitg effect the penis differently . What I THINK could be best and experimenting is ice water pumping last. The heat will stretch the skin all the soft tissues. Then in while the cold will contract the expandand soft tissues in a in expanded state helping to cement. .when doing cold first you won't get that soft tissue expansion . Last I do longer last set 10-15 minutes of ice or coldest water I can. Maybe a hot, cold, hot like in cryotherapy is another option but I think you would still need a longer cold set.

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I did all my sessions with cold water.

imo warm water is optimal, but it is definitely worth trying cold water bathmates for like a week if you've never done it

huge-girth;651387 said:

I did all my sessions with cold water.

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do you use cold water while using your BM n are u getting gains?

shortdick;651417 said:

do you use cold water while using your BM n are u getting gains?

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I did it only once and I don't like it because I didn't get the amount of expansion I used to get from a warm water session.

huge-girth;651437 said:

I did it only once and I don't like it because I didn't get the amount of expansion I used to get from a warm water session.

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Good to know.

huge-girth;651437 said:

I did it only once and I don't like it because I didn't get the amount of expansion I used to get from a warm water session.

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I've been doing it for the last few days now, and I like it because I dont have a shitload of fluid buildup after, and what buildup there is, is gone in an hour. I get pretty good expansion though, about as good as I got with warm water, but I'm also doing this mostly at the end of a routine after I've been warmed up for a while by other methods.

Some different conclusions here, I think we need more experimentation.

I agree Bluetard. Heat first and cold last and the end.

I will have to give this a try again because I didn't watch �naked people movies� while doing it and I've come to realize that it affected my expansion because I wasn't able to keep an erection in the pump.

huge-girth;652138 said:

I will have to give this a try again because I didn't watch �naked people movies� while doing it and I've come to realize that it affected my expansion because I wasn't able to keep an erection in the pump.

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I need visual stimulation to keep myself erect, I try to use the most innocent material I can to keep myself up for the session.