Ice has shown to be better than heat for Stretching.A case for cold water pumping.

Well this is the most we have discussed this. The thread I was thinking about did not gets far in depth. I think with enough men experimenting we may get a solid answer if this is a viable practice. Keep up the good work!
 
You guys should experiment and then update us on this thread.
 
huge-girth;650176 said:
You guys should experiment and then update us on this thread.
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It's already experimented. I will write the science to it tonight.
 
master_mind;649855 said:
ice has more latent heat.
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And is people trying this? We need reviews guys! I tryed enough crazy shit to sit back and let other people freeze their junks before i do it myself :)
 
Aimingforthetop;650224 said:
Latent how? As in the body will heat it more as a result to the ice exposure? Or something else i dont get ?
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Ok I will post it. The science.
 
I've been doing a few sets of ice water bathmate. With the article and info I posted explain how it would be beneficial for girth.

For me I get better EQ and Pi the next day. My EQ drops after pumping but seems much better with cold. This as mentioned before might be most beneficial for those who do PE every day.

My next day plump I am fuller. I would normally get a little bit but with fluid. This is much better next day. I have near zero fluid build up.

Last it's not nearly as bad as you might think. People taking rolling pins, cutting off circulation, hanging 30 pounds of weight. a little cold water is nothing. The initial shock can be intense but after a minute it feels nice especially if it's been heated prior.
 
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I had to do cold water bath mates before but not by choice haha I think cold water is good for testosterone levels but warm water allows for more expansion. Sorry I don't have a scientific explanation though
 
acromegaly;650321 said:
I had to do cold water bath mates before but not by choice haha I think cold water is good for testosterone levels but warm water allows for more expansion. Sorry I don't have a scientific explanation though
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It makes a lot of sense if you say warm water gives more expansion.
 
doublelongdaddy;650273 said:
I wouldn't really call this science, it is more an opinion. I think I will wait for the results from you guys because I have a lot more belief there.
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Well this is not science let me find the correct science if there is.
 
To make science.

You need doctors. With an environment to calculate for different inputs that can affect the results.

And then you need a
testgroup. To try it with ice
And one to try it with warm water
A group to do the placebo version
And a group to do nothing

And then all results should be gone through.

And even then. The results will not be seen as scientific facts. It will be a theory that needs to be reproduced.

This cost a lot of money.

Which is the reason why it only happens to things that can create more money.

Preferably something with a patent and a
Monopoly.
 
acromegaly;650321 said:
I had to do cold water bath mates before but not by choice haha I think cold water is good for testosterone levels but warm water allows for more expansion. Sorry I don't have a scientific explanation though
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Well with heat soft tissues, ligaments, and collagen do become more elastic and easier to expand. Heat expands almost everything. Your penis Is comprised mostly of this tissue, and cold will cause the vasoconstriction on the soft tissues making it smaller. So it absolutely makes sense that your penis will appear bigger coming from a warm pump instead of cold.

This smaller apprearence easly turns people off to the idea of it not working or as effective for girth and I will elaborate on this so bare through this. Again my initial posting is not against the use of Heat or heat over ice or cold as they both work targeting different functions.

With length work heated soft tissue mentioned earlier are easier to expandand and stretch. When your penis cools it starts to contract and go back to original state. This is why in the SRT theory they mention in healing in the expanded state When you put your heated / stretched penis In cold water and pump cycle, the pump will hold or surpass the expanded state. The the cold forces the tissues to cool and contract in the expanded state. Helping to cement gains.

With girth and where it's important works differently. As mentioned the cold causes vasoconstriction or shrinkage to soft tissues. BUT it causes increased vasodilation smooth muscle relaxation . For girth gains and penis function smooth muscle is everything. This extreme relaxation and vasodilation makes it eaiser for the CC to relax and stretch intnernaly, but the cold is making it constrict on the outside making it looks smaller while alot is actually happening internally

Now remember how I mentioned heat stretches? This is going to sound crazy but the cold will eventually increase the internal heat inside your penis. This is due to what is called the " hunting reacction"

"Vasoconstriction occurs first to reduce heat loss, but also results in strong cooling of the extremities. Approximately five to ten minutes after the start of cold exposure, the blood vessels in the extremities will suddenly vasodilate. This is probably caused by a sudden decrease in the release of neurotransmitters from the sympathetic nerves to the muscular coat of the arteriovenous anastomoses due to local cold. This cold-induced vasodilation increases blood flow and subsequently the temperature of the fingers. A new phase of vasoconstriction follows the vasodilation, after which the process repeats itself.[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_reaction

That vasoconstriction on the skin causing it to shrink is actually trapping heat inside your penis. So if the internal temperature inside your penis is actually Getting warmer in theory those internal tissue like the tunica,CC should be eaiser to stretch and expand. It already had no choice to expand due to the vasodilation and smooth muscle relaxation mentioned earlier it seems
 
well it is definitely worth trying, everyone who uses a bathmate should at least try using all sorts of water temperatures imo it can help you learn more
 
ma999;650662 said:
Well with heat soft tissues, ligaments, and collagen do become more elastic and easier to expand. Heat expands almost everything. Your penis Is comprised mostly of this tissue, and cold will cause the vasoconstriction on the soft tissues making it smaller. So it absolutely makes sense that your penis will appear bigger coming from a warm pump instead of cold.

This smaller apprearence easly turns people off to the idea of it not working or as effective for girth and I will elaborate on this so bare through this. Again my initial posting is not against the use of Heat or heat over ice or cold as they both work targeting different functions.

With length work heated soft tissue mentioned earlier are easier to expandand and stretch. When your penis cools it starts to contract and go back to original state. This is why in the SRT theory they mention in healing in the expanded state When you put your heated / stretched penis In cold water and pump cycle, the pump will hold or surpass the expanded state. The the cold forces the tissues to cool and contract in the expanded state. Helping to cement gains.

With girth and where it's important works differently. As mentioned the cold causes vasoconstriction or shrinkage to soft tissues. BUT it causes increased vasodilation smooth muscle relaxation . For girth gains and penis function smooth muscle is everything. This extreme relaxation and vasodilation makes it eaiser for the CC to relax and stretch intnernaly, but the cold is making it constrict on the outside making it looks smaller while alot is actually happening internally

Now remember how I mentioned heat stretches? This is going to sound crazy but the cold will eventually increase the internal heat inside your penis. This is due to what is called the " hunting reacction"

"Vasoconstriction occurs first to reduce heat loss, but also results in strong cooling of the extremities. Approximately five to ten minutes after the start of cold exposure, the blood vessels in the extremities will suddenly vasodilate. This is probably caused by a sudden decrease in the release of neurotransmitters from the sympathetic nerves to the muscular coat of the arteriovenous anastomoses due to local cold. This cold-induced vasodilation increases blood flow and subsequently the temperature of the fingers. A new phase of vasoconstriction follows the vasodilation, after which the process repeats itself.[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_reaction

That vasoconstriction on the skin causing it to shrink is actually trapping heat inside your penis. So if the internal temperature inside your penis is actually Getting warmer in theory those internal tissue like the tunica,CC should be eaiser to stretch and expand. It already had no choice to expand due to the vasodilation and smooth muscle relaxation mentioned earlier it seems
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Excellent work and a great way to back up some of this theory. The real proof will be in those who have tried this method long enough to see if it truly works and brings faster healing, which will bring faster gains.
 
acromegaly;650784 said:
Btw ma999 are you still doing bundled stretch before bathmate, what is your verdict on that routine?
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My focus is more on clamping than pumping these days. But my Verdict applies to the same. Any time I bundle then do clamping, ssj, or clamping. Any thing that really creates expansion from internal pressure I think I hit max expansion easier and sooner. I can't comment if it has speed up gainis. But in my head say I hit Max expansion at 5 minutes instead of 10 of 15 minute set that still 5 minutes longer at Max potential. I think those litle Blts can add up in the long run.
 
ma999;650789 said:
My focus is more on clamping than pumping these days. But my Verdict applies to the same. Any time I bundle then do clamping, ssj, or clamping. Any thing that really creates expansion from internal pressure I think I hit max expansion easier and sooner. I can't comment if it has speed up gainis. But in my head say I hit Max expansion at 5 minutes instead of 10 of 15 minute set that still 5 minutes longer at Max potential. I think those litle Blts can add up in the long run.
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Indeed you are correct, they all add up to the big goal.
 
I used cold water for my girth session last night and my expansion wasn't as big as it used to be when I used warm water.
 
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