General Questions

change_it · Oct 28, 2014

Hello!

Im thinking about buying a SizeGenetics in order to fix my curve (besides doing the manual routine). In this context I have some questions about the SizeGenetics.

I have read, that the SizeGenetics is useful for fixing a curve, is that correct? How is it possible to concentrate on one side with the help of the SG?

If I buy the SG, is there anything else I need to buy (now or later), in order to be able to use it? for example tape (or how you call it

)

Edit: And of course: Do you think its useful to add the sg to my routine in order to fix the curve?

Thanks for helping me out here

smerc · Oct 28, 2014

Useful? Yes.
How long have you had your curve?

There is just the straight out stretch that could help.
The only way to target a specific side is using a fulcrum. Which is just inserting an object (pvc pipe or something similar) @ the point of where it curve, in hopes to remold that area through constant elongation.

They've also been studied for peyronies disease for improving curves derived from plaques/masses of scar tissue.

Some attachment methods might be better than others for certain people. So I can't say for certain which route you should take.
There is also the velcro method or using the VLC. There are also a few taping tutorials for extenders on the forums.

change_it · Oct 29, 2014

My curve is from birth, so it is not because of peyronies.
I thought I read, that the SG was originally constructed for fixing curves? Is that only for those with peyronies?

My idea was: Even if I can only make a stretch straight out, the short side would automatically be stretched more. But would it be possible to stretch, pointing to the shorter side? I just think that using the SG for a couple of hours a days would help to fasten the process instead of just stretching manually...

jordey · Oct 29, 2014

change_it;616741 said:
My curve is from birth, so it is not because of peyronies.
I thought I read, that the SG was originally constructed for fixing curves? Is that only for those with peyronies?

My idea was: Even if I can only make a stretch straight out, the short side would automatically be stretched more. But would it be possible to stretch, pointing to the shorter side? I just think that using the SG for a couple of hours a days would help to fasten the process instead of just stretching manually...

you can put something like a pen on the longer side to help stretch the other side more

smerc · Oct 29, 2014

change_it;616741 said:
My curve is from birth, so it is not because of peyronies.
I thought I read, that the SG was originally constructed for fixing curves? Is that only for those with peyronies?

My idea was: Even if I can only make a stretch straight out, the short side would automatically be stretched more. But would it be possible to stretch, pointing to the shorter side? I just think that using the SG for a couple of hours a days would help to fasten the process instead of just stretching manually...

Give this a read: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post616722.html#post616722

Their marketing for SG was done for the purpose of peyronie's I'm sure.
The studies: FastSize Medical Extender for the treatment of Peyronie's disease. - PubMed - NCBI / Penile traction therapy and Peyronie
That's usually what they mean by curve.

Even though it's natural, they both should abide by the same concept of correction.

DLD · Oct 30, 2014

With an extreme curve to one side you can also modify the SizeGenetics to deal with that by giving greater tension to one side by using the thumb screws at the base or if it is really extreme you could add a .25" bar on one side. As stated by Smerc you can also use a fulcrum while in the SizeGenetics, especially for upward or downward curves. And to answer your question, yes, the SizeGenetics is a medical device that was created for curvature correction and increasing the length of the penis.

change_it · Oct 31, 2014

thanks for the answers

(I will read the links you posted smerc)

Still I have one open topic before buying the sg (quite a lot of money, so i want to be informed well before buying): I often read here in this forum about tlc tugger or vlc tugger. If I buy the sg, do I need those?
How many people have problems using the sg with the equipment which is included in the pack for about 200$? Should I first try to use the "standard" version (how does that one work?) or should I just buy the vlc at the same time as the sg?

By the way: Do you guys think the sg is the best extender for fixing a curve?

smerc · Oct 31, 2014

Yeah. The VLC cone is an attachment. They do sell a leg/thigh strap that connects to the cone so you wouldn't need the SG, but you're not getting that constant tension w/o it.

Not sure of problems w/ the SG equipment.
I would try the SG as it is, then figure out if it's something comfortable that you can use long term. If not, there are mods like the velcro strap, the VLC cone, and various other taping methods.

Best extender for fixing a curve?
I would say any rod extender is just about the same, but the SG is more popular w/ a lot of rod options that can also help. Let's you use a fulcrum whereas something w/ a belt wouldn't. Can't still adopt a method to fulcrum, but it's more difficult in the end.

Zambrodom3 · Oct 31, 2014

smerc;617328 said:
Yeah. The VLC cone is an attachment. They do sell a leg/thigh strap that connects to the cone so you wouldn't need the SG, but you're not getting that constant tension w/o it.

Not sure of problems w/ the SG equipment.
I would try the SG as it is, then figure out if it's something comfortable that you can use long term. If not, there are mods like the velcro strap, the VLC cone, and various other taping methods.

Best extender for fixing a curve?
I would say any rod extender is just about the same, but the SG is more popular w/ a lot of rod options that can also help. Let's you use a fulcrum whereas something w/ a belt wouldn't. Can't still adopt a method to fulcrum, but it's more difficult in the end.

This might be just a bit off topic, but hereit just hit me- aren't the PF and the VLC leg strap mode very similar?

smerc · Oct 31, 2014

Are the phallosan belt and VLC leg strap similar?

Nope. PF goes around the waist.

Hopefully that's what you meant. The leg straps give a tug when walking while the PF stays stationary. You can use different straps for the PF though.

Zambrodom3 · Nov 1, 2014

smerc;617332 said:
Are the phallosan belt and VLC leg strap similar?

Nope. PF goes around the waist.

Hopefully that's what you meant. The leg straps give a tug when walking while the PF stays stationary. You can use different straps for the PF though.

Yea, but if you think about it- with some imagination and creativity you can make both stretch at whatever angle you want- BTC, OTS.... You can modify both however you want...

smerc · Nov 1, 2014

Zambrodom3;617416 said:
Yea, but if you think about it- with some imagination and creativity you can make both stretch at whatever angle you want- BTC, OTS.... You can modify both however you want...

Yeah, w/ straps/belts you can pretty much hit all angles except straight out. Gives you a lot of freedom to choose.

DLD · Nov 1, 2014

smerc;617437 said:
Yeah, w/ straps/belts you can pretty much hit all angles except straight out. Gives you a lot of freedom to choose.

The ideal ADS would be one that included ways to stretch in all directions, I think all ads devices should supply all the belts to hit every angle.

smerc · Nov 1, 2014

doublelongdaddy;617496 said:
The ideal ADS would be one that included ways to stretch in all directions, I think all ads devices should supply all the belts to hit every angle.

That's what makes the PMP pretty awesome. Even though I don't have it. Rods+Belt/Strap.

Would seem easy for phallosan to create a universal product to accommodate both rod/belt.
Some people probably wont gain w/ side stretching and need to target SD/SU or OTS BTC.

DLD · Nov 1, 2014

smerc;617500 said:
That's what makes the PMP pretty awesome. Even though I don't have it. Rods+Belt/Strap.

Would seem easy for phallosan to create a universal product to accommodate both rod/belt.
Some people probably wont gain w/ side stretching and need to target SD/SU or OTS BTC.

That is kind of like the Penimaster Pro, it is just not as popular as the other devices.

change_it · Nov 1, 2014

Ok, just one more question now: As I am uncut, I still have my foreskin, could that be a problem while using the sg? (Just asking because I read about problems with foreskin+sg)

ayS · Nov 3, 2014

change_it;617570 said:
Ok, just one more question now: As I am uncut, I still have my foreskin, could that be a problem while using the sg? (Just asking because I read about problems with foreskin+sg)

i am uncut, and bought a VLC tugger after trying all the options that came with the SG kit. none of them worked out, they hurt, pinched, made me turn blue, and i could not bare it anymore, Almost gave up on PE. But, the VLC is night and day. You just need to make sure you get the correct size otherwise, you may get slippage in it and that's how you'll know it's not the correct size.

DLD · Nov 3, 2014

ayS;617816 said:
i am uncut, and bought a VLC tugger after trying all the options that came with the SG kit. none of them worked out, they hurt, pinched, made me turn blue, and i could not bare it anymore, Almost gave up on PE. But, the VLC is night and day. You just need to make sure you get the correct size otherwise, you may get slippage in it and that's how you'll know it's not the correct size.

The VLC is the end all connection to the SizeGenetics, if one of the methods of the original kit do not work for you the VLC will solve these issues and give you a great stretch with none of the issues present with the supplied system.

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