bigman808 said:
Hmmm, strange. Well, at least you came, right? haha Well, I might have to try this someday, sounds nice to be able to last so long. Good luck with the root, make sure it isn't toxic or anything before you go ahead with it.

Also, I think we need to change the title of this thread, cause it didn't cause penis enlargement, did it? Just in rats, right?

The title stays, I have been useing the leaves .. the penile size changes was seen after the root part was taken, in rats yes.

Also I noticed my mouth dried up ALOT inside, like my spit was being took away.

Thanks for clearing this up.
The dizzyness and slight drunken feeling must have been the toxins right?
Do you have any idea as to why this leaf is effective at holding of ejaclation longer than normal?
 
Yes, but it's very hard for me to express it in english... I will try it :D
The toxins of the plant also have their effects on the sensitive nerve endings maybe. (I'm not too familiar with this plant. To be honest I first read about it HERE)
This leads to desensitization, just like a local anaesthetic does. Did you experience feelings of numbness in your mouth, nose or even on the skin? Then this is the cause of it.
 
Thanks for the info! I am curious to try this product, but would like to see gains in penile sizes as well, just to make it a multi-tasking method, you know?
 
REDZULU2003
Have u tried getting a blender and some poweraid or some juice and putting everything in there mixing it together?I bet that would make it taste alot better even if it was the root to.
 
http://www.herbalglobal.com/cart/product.asp?p=11978&name=l_methionine its cheap and is a antioxidant.Its a amino acid thats why its in that nitrotech stuff.If i was u i wouldnt by nitrotech because its over priced overhyped crap.

L-Methionine Maintains blood flow to the kidneys, heart, brain, helps protects cells from free radicals, detoxifies harmful agents, aids digestion, help prevent brittle hair, aids muscle weakness, fights osteoporosis and allergies.L-Methionine helps prevent liver an artery fat buildup
 
If you try the leaves again, you might want to try putting them in geletin capsules. That way, you won't have to taste it.

When are you going to do a test with the root?
 
Chris23 said:
http://www.herbalglobal.com/cart/product.asp?p=11978&name=l_methionine its cheap and is a antioxidant.Its a amino acid thats why its in that nitrotech stuff.If i was u i wouldnt by nitrotech because its over priced overhyped crap.

L-Methionine Maintains blood flow to the kidneys, heart, brain, helps protects cells from free radicals, detoxifies harmful agents, aids digestion, help prevent brittle hair, aids muscle weakness, fights osteoporosis and allergies.L-Methionine helps prevent liver an artery fat buildup

Whats this to do with the fern leaf I am testing here?? enlighten me please.

When are you going to do a test with the root?

Hopefully on FRIDAY
 
I'm sorry to say that I've been experimenting with this plant over the last month and have not had the success with it that Red has. The plant grows wild where I live in the mountains of Northern Idaho, USA. Over the last month I've experimented with it about five times, varying the dose from a half leaf to a leaf and a half (I thought the effective dose might change according to a persons boby weight, I'm 6'4", 300 lbs) and no dose that I used could stop ejaculation. I tried it on an empty stomach, I tried it on a full stamach, I tried it with lots of water, etc. Nothing seemed to help. I didn't have any of the side-effects Red reported though, in fact I didn't seem to notice much of anything...... it was kind of like grazing on a little grass, just some green shit the next day, that was about it.
So...... needless to say I was disappointed. I hope others have better results.

Dan
 
It's not the leaf that causes growth, apparently. It's the root.
 
I realize that. I was following Red's lead and trying the leaves for a solution to premature ejaculation, but it it didn't work for me.

Dan
 
I thought that's what Red said he was going to be testing since the leaf itself didn't cause any growth in him. I'll let him speak for himself about what exactly he's doing and the effects his pasts tests have had.
 
heres some more of the same info but someting instering at the end.

Synonyms: Male Fern.
• Family: Aspidiaceae.
• Range: Asia, Siberia, Greece, India, N. America.
• Botany description: It makes a very lovely houseplant. Plant has broad fronds, 6 to 10 inches long. Leaves monomorphic, green through winter, 6--40 × 1--6 cm, old leaves persistent as gray or brown conspicuous clump at plant base (only in this species). Petiole 1/3 length of leaf, scaly throughout; scales dense, brown to red-brown. Blades green, linear-lanceolate, pinnate-pinnatifid to 2-pinnate, papery, densely scaly (only in this species) abaxially, glandular, aromatic when handled (only in this species). Pinnae ± in plane of blade, linear-oblong; basal pinnae linear-oblong, much reduced, basal pinnules longer than adjacent pinnules, basal basiscopic pinnule and basal acroscopic pinnule equal; pinnule margins crenately toothed. Sori midway between midvein and margin of segments. Indusia glandular. Root is long obovate, slightly curved, the upper end obtuse or truncate, the lower end acuminate, some cut longitudinally into two pieces, 7-20 cm long, 4-8 cm in diameter. Externally yellowish-brown to black brown, densely covered with regularly arranged frond-bases and ramenta, and with curved rootlets. The frond bases oblate rounded 3-5 cm long, 5-10 mm in diameter, externally with longitudinal edge, texture hard and fragile, fracture slight smooth, brown and showing 5-13 yellowish white meristeles arranged in a ring. The outside of each frond base with three rootlet respectivly, ramenta striped lanceolate, entire, usually fallen off, texture hard, fracture slight smooth, dark green to brown, with 5-13 yellowish-white meristele ranged in a ring, relatively more leaf trace bundles scattered in the outer part. Odour characteristic; taste, firstly slight astringent and then gradually bitter or pungent.
• Chemical composition: Three new kaempferol glycosides, called crassirhizomosides A (1), B (2) and C (3), were isolated from the rhizome of Dryopteris crassirhizoma (Aspidiaceae), together with the known kaempferol glycoside, sutchuenoside A (4). The structures of 1-3 were determined as kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(3,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside, and kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,3-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranosside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, respectively, by chemical and spectroscopic means. Inhibitory effects of 1-4 and kaempferol on human immunodeficiency virus reverse transcriptase-associated DNA polymerase (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase and DNA-dependent DNA polymerase) and RNase H activities were investigated (Min, 2001).
Two new ichthyotoxic compounds, aspidin PB (8) and dryofragin (9), along with three known phloroglucinol derivatives (1-3) and five terpenoids, were isolated from the whole herbs of Dryopteris fragrans(Ito,2000).
The two dimeric compounds aspidin and desaspidin, which were found to be the most active among the tested phlorophenones, were also examined in vivo on two stage mouse skin carcinogenesis, and found to show significant inhibitory effect on 7,12-dimethylbenz[alpha]anthracene (DMBA)-TPA tumor promotion(Kapadia,1996).
• Part Used: Root.
• Medicinal Uses: In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments (Kantemir, 1976).
Aspidin and desaspidin inhibit TPA induced tumors in mice(Kapadia 1996) .
Shows antibiotic properties of the male fern (Aizenman 1973).
Effect of desaspidin on photosynthetic phosphorylation and related processes(Hind 1966).
 
I already new thisn but I tryed the leaves to RULE them out.
Next time round I shall try the roots.
Also people helping with this, make sure you use the RIGHT fern plant and make sure its male.
 
Nrrru said:
heres some more of the same info but someting instering at the end.

Synonyms: Male Fern.
• Family: Aspidiaceae.
• Range: Asia, Siberia, Greece, India, N. America.
• Botany description: It makes a very lovely houseplant. Plant has broad fronds, 6 to 10 inches long. Leaves monomorphic, green through winter, 6--40 × 1--6 cm, old leaves persistent as gray or brown conspicuous clump at plant base (only in this species). Petiole 1/3 length of leaf, scaly throughout; scales dense, brown to red-brown. Blades green, linear-lanceolate, pinnate-pinnatifid to 2-pinnate, papery, densely scaly (only in this species) abaxially, glandular, aromatic when handled (only in this species). Pinnae ± in plane of blade, linear-oblong; basal pinnae linear-oblong, much reduced, basal pinnules longer than adjacent pinnules, basal basiscopic pinnule and basal acroscopic pinnule equal; pinnule margins crenately toothed. Sori midway between midvein and margin of segments. Indusia glandular. Root is long obovate, slightly curved, the upper end obtuse or truncate, the lower end acuminate, some cut longitudinally into two pieces, 7-20 cm long, 4-8 cm in diameter. Externally yellowish-brown to black brown, densely covered with regularly arranged frond-bases and ramenta, and with curved rootlets. The frond bases oblate rounded 3-5 cm long, 5-10 mm in diameter, externally with longitudinal edge, texture hard and fragile, fracture slight smooth, brown and showing 5-13 yellowish white meristeles arranged in a ring. The outside of each frond base with three rootlet respectivly, ramenta striped lanceolate, entire, usually fallen off, texture hard, fracture slight smooth, dark green to brown, with 5-13 yellowish-white meristele ranged in a ring, relatively more leaf trace bundles scattered in the outer part. Odour characteristic; taste, firstly slight astringent and then gradually bitter or pungent.
• Chemical composition: Three new kaempferol glycosides, called crassirhizomosides A (1), B (2) and C (3), were isolated from the rhizome of Dryopteris crassirhizoma (Aspidiaceae), together with the known kaempferol glycoside, sutchuenoside A (4). The structures of 1-3 were determined as kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(3,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside, and kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,3-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranosside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, respectively, by chemical and spectroscopic means. Inhibitory effects of 1-4 and kaempferol on human immunodeficiency virus reverse transcriptase-associated DNA polymerase (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase and DNA-dependent DNA polymerase) and RNase H activities were investigated (Min, 2001).
Two new ichthyotoxic compounds, aspidin PB (8) and dryofragin (9), along with three known phloroglucinol derivatives (1-3) and five terpenoids, were isolated from the whole herbs of Dryopteris fragrans(Ito,2000).
The two dimeric compounds aspidin and desaspidin, which were found to be the most active among the tested phlorophenones, were also examined in vivo on two stage mouse skin carcinogenesis, and found to show significant inhibitory effect on 7,12-dimethylbenz[alpha]anthracene (DMBA)-TPA tumor promotion(Kapadia,1996).
• Part Used: Root.
• Medicinal Uses: In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments (Kantemir, 1976).
Aspidin and desaspidin inhibit TPA induced tumors in mice(Kapadia 1996) .
Shows antibiotic properties of the male fern (Aizenman 1973).
Effect of desaspidin on photosynthetic phosphorylation and related processes(Hind 1966).

ALso thabnks for this data.
 
Hows it going with the root red? This thread is very interesting,
I think those grow in the Swedish forrests, seen many many and more.
They all look exactly like the one in the picture. So it would'nt be hard to find them. :)
We also got some plants that look like bluebarrys, but they arent bluebarrys,
they are some kind of clone i guess but with some toxin effect.
 
I also read that there is no Male and Female plant, its just called a Male because of its robust look.
 
hi, my one is 4 inch only and i want to gain it more than now. if there is any one can help me and give me some correct instruction how to gain it i will deeply appreciated.
thank you.
JAY
 
I have moved this into the alternative section as its changed into alternative Penis Enlargement as the thread developed.
 
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