Does Size Matter to Gay, HomoSexual Men ?

PenilePersist · Apr 15, 2007

jqsderrida said:
Discussion of 'black people' nor of traits stereotypically attributed to them is not the reason for the season of this thread. In fact, this is one of the most ignorant discussions of 'race' I have ever heard. I suggest that it stop.

I agree. Gash stepped out of bounds of reason for a bit and made himself a hypocrit in some sense, while associating generalizations with real world issues that he obvious has strong beliefs about.

I think everyone will let this go as long as Gash does.

As long as it's somehting being discussed and learned from though....
I have friends who are ABUNDANTLY wealthy, from legit and widely acceptable means, and they type, talk and dress far below many people's standards. They happen to be caucasion, but could easily have different color skin ... as are some of the least wealthy people I know who are still millionaires. I also have friends of various races that make money illegally ... and likely immorally in many people's minds ... and they talk like some of the biggest brainiacs every known. It's results above all else.

Glancing at this thread, I saw two comments that initially jumped out at me:
1. Gash implying ithiel is on welfare based on his posts and skin color. 2. 10inch implying that ithiel has had it harder than many people because he is black or that blacks automatically have it harder than others.

Gash was intentionally offensive and stems from obvious bias that may lurk as a type of hatred deep down, combined with a bit of admirable realism ... albeit that doesn't warrant the totality ... or smallest amount ... of scathing diatribe he happened to start spewing ... and it has no place whatsoever in this thread ... on OUR forum. Gash, man, you seem cool .... but please overlook some of these things and respect people regardless of their dialect. It's the heart, mind and soul that is the true meaning behind the person. I've seen nothing but good from ithiel on this forum, despite his edgy presentation of his e-persona.

10inch unintentionally insulted those of the millions of us who are not black, nor of any other so called "minority" race, but have struggled immensely. I imagine some lack of experience has somehting to do with it, and it wasn't intentional ... but I'll kindly ask him to reach for a new paradigm of purview from that train of thought.

Anytime somebody wants to drop all of this, especially Gash, I'm sure this will all be over and everyone will get along again. Otherwise .... I'm glad to see that all the posting in this thread isn't about what size cock gay guys like ... however I imagine they vary like women do. Afterall, we are all human and our lives are much more relative than we condition ourselves to believe and work to try to dismiss by distancing ourselves with money, religion, race and many things that are superficial and trivial in the big scope.

PenilePersist · Apr 15, 2007

Chance1826 said:
I'm not sold on other guys liking to look at other guys cocks...that is called straight curious of bi-curious...or even gay...not "straight"...

I hate all the guys in the locker room who try to show their dick to everyone. I'll wear a towel even if I make it to 9+ inches. But, I do like looking at dick pics on this forum for motivation. When thought about fairly and without societal influence, it is reasonable and generally courteous and respectful to admire and compliment other men on their bodies ... including their dicks ... and one can do it with nothing but straight thoughts in hopes to be friendly, positive, motivated and respectully acknowledge that the guy has characteristics they would love to - and aspire to - have of their own.

Reber187 · Apr 15, 2007

jqsderrida said:
Discussion of 'black people' nor of traits stereotypically attributed to them is not the reason for the season of this thread. In fact, this is one of the most ignorant discussions of 'race' I have ever heard. I suggest that it stop.

mega ditto.

keep pushing

MissionPossible · Apr 15, 2007

PenilePersist said:
10inch implying that ithiel has had it harder than many people because he is black or that blacks automatically have it harder than others.

Blacks normally do have it harder though, look at the mauri's in new zeland, they have it harder.. look at the aboriginals in australia.. they have it harder. Btw this isn't a racist post from me im telling it like it is

darkseid1998 · Apr 15, 2007

Making money does not take a college degree nor could a college degree make you enough money to even support yourself. I learned that the hard way. I came out of college with an Economics and Math degree from NYU hoping to land a six figure income BUT the jobs out there only pay $40K to start and caps off at $90K. And that's not all, if it is a bad economy like the recession we had in the 90s, you won't even find the job you qualify for!!!
I had a friend girl from Brooklyn Tech who is a musician and is making millions over my untalented college educated broke ass (who found a job but it is in telecommunications making a measly $75K a year in New York City and is hardly able to keep up with payments on a $500K mortgage and facing foreclosure. I even tried budgeting but the mortgage in NYC is still too high). That friend is an African American girl who is a recording artist making millions off her albums.
I have a lot more respect for guys like Ithiel that come from the hood that have talent and smarts on how they invest their earnings than a broke college educated struggling person who brags about his many degrees from Harvard. Most Chairmen or CEOS never finished college like Bill Gates for instance.

Back to the topic, I would never go in front of a bunch of homosexuals in a locker room without a towel. I would however go in front of the ladies naked. I myself have a 7 1/4" long cock and am open to see which girl likes that size. I am proud of my size because women don't laugh at it for being too short nor do they run from it for being too big. I like where I stand on the ratio of women's preferences toward size (which 7-8 inches is favored by 60 percent of all women whereas maybe 35 percent are size queens and 5% like them small). The same may go towards homsexual men because a big cock may be too painful for them to take while a mid sized one may be a good fit.
Remember, there aren't many women with more than 8"+ deep vaginas (or gay men with 8" + deep rectums) that could take a large cock so the percentile is smaller than for mid sized 6-8".

10inchadvantage · Apr 15, 2007

darkseid1998 said:
Making money does not take a college degree nor could a college degree make you enough money to even support yourself. I learned that the hard way. I came out of college with an Economics and Math degree from NYU hoping to land a six figure income BUT the jobs out there only pay $40K to start and caps off at $90K. And that's not all, if it is a bad economy like the recession we had in the 90s, you won't even find the job you qualify for!!!
I had a friend girl from Brooklyn Tech who is a musician and is making millions over my untalented college educated broke ass (who found a job but it is in telecommunications making a measly $75K a year in New York City and is hardly able to keep up with payments on a $500K mortgage and facing foreclosure. I even tried budgeting but the mortgage in NYC is still too high). That friend is an African American girl who is a recording artist making millions off her albums.
I have a lot more respect for guys like Ithiel that come from the hood that have talent and smarts on how they invest their earnings than a broke college educated struggling person who brags about his many degrees from Harvard. Most Chairmen or CEOS never finished college like Bill Gates for instance.

Back to the topic, I would never go in front of a bunch of homosexuals in a locker room without a towel. I would however go in front of the ladies naked. I myself have a 7 1/4" long cock and am open to see which girl likes that size. I am proud of my size because women don't laugh at it for being too short nor do they run from it for being too big. I like where I stand on the ratio of women's preferences toward size (which 7-8 inches is favored by 60 percent of all women whereas maybe 35 percent are size queens and 5% like them small). The same may go towards homsexual men because a big cock may be too painful for them to take while a mid sized one may be a good fit.
Remember, there aren't many women with more than 8"+ deep vaginas (or gay men with 8" + deep rectums) that could take a large cock so the percentile is smaller than for mid sized 6-8".

Actually a rectum can easily take huge lengths with proper caution. The anus doesn't have a cervix. It's the large intestine, after all.

Nightbird · Apr 18, 2007

Hey GK, great thread man... :clank:

Like every other group of people, Gay men are individuals and each have their own taste as far as penis size is concerned. To think otherwise and just group them all in one big ball would be stereotypically cliche, like saying every white person can't dance, every black person can dance, every mexican is lazy, every jewish person is rich, and lastly, every gay man wants a big cock on his man. It is true the stereotype of gay men is that they all want a big cock, but this is not true, just as it is not true all gay men are effeminate and really want to be women (no thanks to the Queer Eye guys for perpetrating this myth), or that they can't be friends with straight guys because they will always try to get the straight guy into bed, or that all they care about is clothes and superficial things. I'm one of those gay guys whom you would never know by looking or talking to me. I don't give a crap about nice clothes, I'm about as feminine as a marine in combat mode, and I look like a lumber jack who might try to steal a girl and tie her up in his mountain cabin -in other words, a very butch and masculine southern guy who would beat the hell out of someone who called him a fag. I'm proud of what I am, and I know myself and am comfortable in my masculinity, so that any macho bullshit about being gay doesn't affect me, as I'm above that retarded way of thinking.

Although I know I am not the only gay member of MOS, I can only speak for myself and tell you that while I do notice a big penis before I notice a small one, it is only because the big penis is BIG, and noticing it first is equivalent to noticing the big Lincoln Navigator first in a parking lot full of Toyota Corolla's. Sexually however, as I am versatile, I prefer men 6 inches or smaller in length, and 5 inches or smaller in width, because I am very tight anally and anything bigger than that just hurts incredibaly bad. I was once with a guy who would be considered "small" by many men here ( although he was average according to the last stats I saw claiming the average penis size of men is between 4-5 inches in length ) and he was probably around 4-5 inches in length and probably 4 or smaller in width. It was very pleasurable because his length or width did not hurt me, and I could concentrate on the intense pleasure the friction was causing on my anus and the warm feeling of fullness that I had inside. So believe when I tell you that bigger is definitely not better for alot of men and women into anal sex. The main reason I want to be bigger myself is for my own vanity purposes, not to please anyone else.

There are gay men (and women) who enjoy that kind of pain and think of it as pleasureable, but not me. Anal sex in general usually is uncomfortable in the beggining for most, but after a period of getting used to the feeling of fullness of the penis being inside of you, you learn to relax, breathe properly and deeply, and then get into the feelings of it sliding back and forth inside of you, and learn to enjoy this and find pleasure in it. However that being said, if someone is too large for you, and/or you are very tight anally, the pleasure part may never come and it just becomes a very painful experience, no matter how much deep breathing or relaxation techniques you use. You have to know yourself, and know what you really want, what feels good to you, and what you can endure.

Although it is true the rectum is incredibly durable and can put up with alot of abuse and has plenty of space for a large penis, this does not mean it will feel good to you or your anal sphincter muscle, nor does it mean you cannot hurt your rectum, so you have to use good judgement and be careful. That being said, the anal opening is rich in nerves, and all of these nerves can give you hours of pleasure if you or your partner stimulate them properly, with the right touch from a penis, hand or tongue, or the right device such as a vibrator. Alot of straight and gay men, and women also for that matter, don't realize how incredible it can feel to have your anus stimulated and played with, so it doesn't cost you anything to experiment and see what feels good to you. Sexually speaking, the more open minded you are about it, the more things you try, the better chance you have to really find something that gives you incredible pleasure, even from an area you never thought of being able to produce such good feelings.

10inchadvantage · Apr 18, 2007

Nightbird said:
Hey GK, great thread man... :clank:

Like every other group of people, Gay men are individuals and each have their own taste as far as penis size is concerned. To think otherwise and just group them all in one big ball would be stereotypically cliche, like saying every white person can't dance, every black person can dance, every mexican is lazy, every jewish person is rich, and lastly, every gay man wants a big cock on his man. It is true the stereotype of gay men is that they all want a big cock, but this is not true, just as it is not true all gay men are effeminate and really want to be women (no thanks to the Queer Eye guys for perpetrating this myth), or that they can't be friends with straight guys because they will always try to get the straight guy into bed, or that all they care about is clothes and superficial things. I'm one of those gay guys whom you would never know by looking or talking to me. I don't give a crap about nice clothes, I'm about as feminine as a marine in combat mode, and I look like a lumber jack who might try to steal a girl and tie her up in his mountain cabin -in other words, a very butch and masculine southern guy who would beat the hell out of someone who called him a fag. I'm proud of what I am, and I know myself and am comfortable in my masculinity, so that any macho bullshit about being gay doesn't affect me, as I'm above that retarded way of thinking.

Although I know I am not the only gay member of MOS, I can only speak for myself and tell you that while I do notice a big penis before I notice a small one, it is only because the big penis is BIG, and noticing it first is equivalent to noticing the big Lincoln Navigator first in a parking lot full of Toyota Corolla's. Sexually however, as I am versatile, I prefer men 6 inches or smaller in length, and 5 inches or smaller in width, because I am very tight anally and anything bigger than that just hurts incredibaly bad. I was once with a guy who would be considered "small" by many men here ( although he was average according to the last stats I saw claiming the average penis size of men is between 4-5 inches in length ) and he was probably around 4-5 inches in length and probably 4 or smaller in width. It was very pleasurable because his length or width did not hurt me, and I could concentrate on the intense pleasure the friction was causing on my anus and the warm feeling of fullness that I had inside. So believe when I tell you that bigger is definitely not better for alot of men and women into anal sex. The main reason I want to be bigger myself is for my own vanity purposes, not to please anyone else.

There are gay men (and women) who enjoy that kind of pain and think of it as pleasureable, but not me. Anal sex in general usually is uncomfortable in the beggining for most, but after a period of getting used to the feeling of fullness of the penis being inside of you, you learn to relax, breathe properly and deeply, and then get into the feelings of it sliding back and forth inside of you, and learn to enjoy this and find pleasure in it. However that being said, if someone is too large for you, and/or you are very tight anally, the pleasure part may never come and it just becomes a very painful experience, no matter how much deep breathing or relaxation techniques you use. You have to know yourself, and know what you really want, what feels good to you, and what you can endure.

Although it is true the rectum is incredibly durable and can put up with alot of abuse and has plenty of space for a large penis, this does not mean it will feel good to you or your anal sphincter muscle, nor does it mean you cannot hurt your rectum, so you have to use good judgement and be careful. That being said, the anal opening is rich in nerves, and all of these nerves can give you hours of pleasure if you or your partner stimulate them properly, with the right touch from a penis, hand or tongue, or the right device such as a vibrator. Alot of straight and gay men, and women also for that matter, don't realize how incredible it can feel to have your anus stimulated and played with, so it doesn't cost you anything to experiment and see what feels good to you. Sexually speaking, the more open minded you are about it, the more things you try, the better chance you have to really find something that gives you incredible pleasure, even from an area you never thought of being able to produce such good feelings.

That was a good post. I always had this question though, when you look at pics here (in the Penis Enlargement context site, not a sexual context site) do you get any turned on by them or do you look at them "scientifically."

Nightbird · Apr 18, 2007

Hey 10inchadvantage,

Thanks for the comments. Being a typically horny and red blooded american male (I find alot of us who are into Penis Enlargement'ing tend to be higher on the horny scale than the average joe), I can honestly tell you that the pics affect me both ways, although I have seen so many cock pics now from Penis Enlargement'ing threads that most don't do a thing for me. Some don't turn me on because I don't consider the penis attractive (we all have our own personal tastes as to what a good cock looks like besides length and width), and others make me grab my skin lotion and my cum towel...LOL

It's just human nature to react that way to the naked body of course (or as a straight friend of mine put it, if a gay guy propositions him, he takes it as a compliment cause gay guys have great taste in men...:s ), and even the best and most jaded male Gynecologists will still get turned on by a female patient if she happens to be his type or what he likes to see sexually -although good luck on finding one that will admit this, but a friend of mine who is one does. No big surprise, as you can't just turn the ole horny hormones off.

Nightbird · Apr 18, 2007

By the way 10inchadvantage, I'd kill to be your size bud, and congrats on your program. Of course I think your were above average to begin with, so way to go on getting HUGE. :clap:

10inchadvantage · Apr 18, 2007

Nightbird said:
By the way 10inchadvantage, I'd kill to be your size bud, and congrats on your program. Of course I think your were above average to begin with, so way to go on getting HUGE. :clap:

After you hit a certain size you tend to get less hung up about penises in general. For everyone it is different, but 8x6 did it for me (when I was still in high school). What size are you at?

Actually, I was perfectly average sized when I started. A 6x5 penis has the same volume as a 7x4.75 penis. My girth was "lacking" a little but my length was above average. I guess that's good because length isn't too easy for me to get.

It's nice to have a homosexual guy who will hopefully be an active poster. I think we need more people that have something other than a heterosexual male view here. It seems that a lot of younger straight men don't realize that some gay guys are just homosexual, not "gay." What I mean by that is just because someone is attracted to men, does not mean he is all nelly and stuff, which is what a lot of young people think to be the identifier of a real gay man. Do you sometimes find it hard shooting the shit with guys over a beer, talking about hot women and stuff? I'd imagine it would be pretty hard for me to come out if I was gay. Everyone would be shocked, but it's a shame that people aren't more accepting of it. The only openly gay guys I have ever met were at least a little nelly, but I'm sure there are lots more guys I have known that were gay when they acted straight. All I have to say is some kids in the football locker room and around the school (some of the biggest studs) did some "odd" things with other guys in private, and when done in public would be just "acting" all the time. Just funny how guys can be all "macho" and "so straight" yet do such "gay" things and laugh. I'm sure you've seen this happen and gotten frustrated with the guys who act like they're so studly and straight yet you know they are somewhat attracted to guys. Just some interesting observations I've had.

Nightbird · Apr 18, 2007

Hey 10inchadvantage,

You made some really good observations, and I appreciate your frankness and welcoming attitude. I totally agree that once you hit a good penis size that is right for you, you will naturally not be so concerned about it anymore and focus less on it. 8x6 is a dream size for most men, and I myself would probably give up on making it any larger if I was at 8x6. Currently my bone pressed measurements are 5x5, but because I have a good sized fat pad above my cock it actually is 4x5. I probaby wouldn't be so concerned about it if it looked 4 inches when flaccid, but it doesn't, and that's what I really hate about my size. My partner is perfectly happy with it's size, as he says it's just the right "mouthfull" without him gagging on it, but personally I want it bigger for myself, as I dream of it looking like yours when flaccid, so that is bounces up and down when I walk around naked and fills out my swimming briefs nicely when at the beach. I'm only doing hand stretches right now, which are getting me nowhere, so I am currently looking for a penis extender that doesn't cost and arm and a leg to use. I bought a JELQ apparatus from the original JELQ site, but that was a waste of money as it only started to make me thicker in width very quickly, and what I want is length not width. I know theres alot of guys who have extenders here they don't use and are looking for width, so maybe I'll post a thread asking if they want to trade, what'ya think? Do we have a "Sale/Trade" section at MOS? If not, it would be a great idea to post one.

As for the being gay thing, it's actually really easy for me to hang with straight guys because all my friends are straight, with the exception of my partner of course. I'm what they call a "straight gay guy", meaning I don't usually enjoy the stereotypical things alot of gay men do -bars, clubs, pride events, gay parties, etc. I've had alot of gay men actually question me as to whether I am really gay, and then doubt me, simply because I didn't fit their idea of what a gay man is, ie; nelly, fem, clean cut with sharp looking clothes (I'm usually scruffy looking in shorts and t-shirts), etc. I know I'm gay, but that's just one small part of me, it does not define my whole existence, as some gay men allow it to do. Plus, I started life liking women, then moved on to being Bi, then settled on Gay, so talking to men about beautiful women just comes naturally to me, and a gorgeous woman can still catch me eye in a big way -I just don't want to have sex with them anymore. I think it all boils down to respect ya know? I know from firsthand knowledge that their are alot of gay men who are just as bad as straight men when it comes to expecting others to believe and think as they do. But I'm one of those people who embraces diversity, so I can relate to alot of people, no matter what their race, age or culture...it's all good to me. And your right about alot of those "macho & straight" guys doing gay things and laughing it off. Alot of "pre-gay" activity included doing those types of "gay pranks" with your bud, because it gives you a way of testing the waters without committing, and then being able to laugh it off. You'd be surprised what those guys end up doing behind closed doors, but as long as they play safe, it's all good...we all have to find our own way the best we can in this messed up world.

GashKing · Apr 19, 2007

Nightbird, thanks man.

The guys here got me wrong. What I am upset and pissed at is the word "NIGGER", "NIGGA" - you get the point.

Look what the fuck just happened to a "GREAT" radio host, Imus, for joking around, and you guys support this type of behavior and are just as bad as Ithiel is! We are trying to get along with other races and they wont try to get along with us - but people like many of you guys that responded, baby guys like Ithiel and this doesnt send a good message nor teach anything.

Jesus Christ he Imus, was almost fucken killed for joking around. But the big fucken wigs at CBS, on the top had to "keep the peace" for the $upport ($financiall$) of some people. In reality, if money, finances werent involved, CBS would have told them to "go pound sand" ! He (Imus) made fun of all races, blacks, mexicans, Irish, Germans, Jews etc . . . . . , but when he referred to the blacks - Jesus Christ - the fucken world came to a halt - I think that this causes more heart ache and more discriminatory actions of some? I understand about "DickHead" also. But this thread is about the word "Nigger, Nigga" and the way, context, it is used. I dont fall for much, especially "bull-shit" ! So we all know how to spell and use English, so dont give me that gang wannabe talk! How do we know that Ithiel is even poor, comes from a poor family, is black, owns a Caddy, or just a "wannabe" ?

WHY ?

For reasons of getting banned, I will not continue, you all know I am not a quitter, nor give up, but like I said, I dont want to get banned, I could go on and on and on hammering Ithiel. This was my thread and Nighbird, my words are not geared toward you. I also thank all the guys that emailed me for support because you didnt want to get involved with issues like this - thanks again guys. I came from a family of 9 (8 boys, 1 girl) and we were low income, but I made it in live (College-Masters Degree, US Marines and now a Professional in my Occupation), so dont give me that crap anyone has it harder than others - espcecially "race"! The poorer you are, the more money and grants you get from the Government for anything and every thing.

Lets get back to my original thread now. I'm done with this issue.

ithiel · Apr 19, 2007

-But this thread is about the word "Nigger, Nigga" and the way, context, it is used.-

Thats just the way me, and a lot of people talk.

-I understand about "DickHead" also.-

??. Dickhead was a basehead junkie. Fucked himself up to look like a dickhead.

-How do we know that Ithiel is even poor, comes from a poor family, is black, owns a Caddy, or just a "wannabe" ?-

Think what ya like. I'm not on the forums to look a certain way.

-I could go on and on and on hammering Ithiel.-

Please do. Im sure you never would in person.

-The poorer you are, the more money and grants you get from the Government for anything and every thing.-

yea right. How come I never qualified for numerous "so called" government grants.

ithiel · Apr 19, 2007

I forgot to add... you be just adding more flame to the fire man. "So we all know how to spell and use English, so dont give me that gang wannabe talk!" -

So what, I gotta do everything the proper way? Man I'm above the norm, aint got to properly use anything. I don't tell jqsderrida to talk like me, even tho I can't understand half of his upscale language (not saying it a bad thing). Fuck that man, better yet, NIGGA FUCK THAT.

bigcharlie · Apr 19, 2007

I did this...

jqsderrida · Apr 19, 2007

Gash, you need to understand a couple of things. Without getting into the philosophy of how language acquires meaning, it should be self-evident, at least to someone who holds a master's degree from an American higher education institution, that language acquires meaning from context. Ithiel has not been linguistically inflammatory or pejorative in any thread that comes to mind. However, you state that you take an *absolute* objection to the utilization of the term 'nigger'. However, I dont see you decrying Mark Twain for his excessive use of the term. What about the use of the word nigger in Edgar Allen Poe or Flannery O' Conner? You see, the use of this language for these authors, as well as for Ithiel, is benign insofar as there is no maliciousness behind it. Regarding the Imus anecdote which you raise, I believe he said 'nappy-ass ho' when referring to a certain, now infamous, female basketball player. Concerning your remark about the proper utilization of English, there were 14 errors in both spelling and grammer in your post, and, to use the words of that Christ figure whose name you so often invoke, 'why do you point out the wood-speck in your neighbor's eye when there is a log in your own'?

You need to develop a respect for the relative autonomy of cultures (and their *dialects*) different your own. Were all here to discuss and to develop Penis Enlargement. Ithiel doesnt have to speak the Queen's English, and neither do you or I, but, there was absolutely no reason to react in the manner in which you did to Ithiel's previous posts. The only thing I see in all of this is a conservative, reactionary man speaking out against multiculturalism.

I like you Gash, but damn, my friend, why did you bring all this hell?

10inchadvantage · Apr 19, 2007

Nightbird said:
Hey 10inchadvantage,

You made some really good observations, and I appreciate your frankness and welcoming attitude. I totally agree that once you hit a good penis size that is right for you, you will naturally not be so concerned about it anymore and focus less on it. 8x6 is a dream size for most men, and I myself would probably give up on making it any larger if I was at 8x6. Currently my bone pressed measurements are 5x5, but because I have a good sized fat pad above my cock it actually is 4x5. I probaby wouldn't be so concerned about it if it looked 4 inches when flaccid, but it doesn't, and that's what I really hate about my size. My partner is perfectly happy with it's size, as he says it's just the right "mouthfull" without him gagging on it, but personally I want it bigger for myself, as I dream of it looking like yours when flaccid, so that is bounces up and down when I walk around naked and fills out my swimming briefs nicely when at the beach. I'm only doing hand stretches right now, which are getting me nowhere, so I am currently looking for a penis extender that doesn't cost and arm and a leg to use. I bought a JELQ apparatus from the original JELQ site, but that was a waste of money as it only started to make me thicker in width very quickly, and what I want is length not width. I know theres alot of guys who have extenders here they don't use and are looking for width, so maybe I'll post a thread asking if they want to trade, what'ya think? Do we have a "Sale/Trade" section at MOS? If not, it would be a great idea to post one.

As for the being gay thing, it's actually really easy for me to hang with straight guys because all my friends are straight, with the exception of my partner of course. I'm what they call a "straight gay guy", meaning I don't usually enjoy the stereotypical things alot of gay men do -bars, clubs, pride events, gay parties, etc. I've had alot of gay men actually question me as to whether I am really gay, and then doubt me, simply because I didn't fit their idea of what a gay man is, ie; nelly, fem, clean cut with sharp looking clothes (I'm usually scruffy looking in shorts and t-shirts), etc. I know I'm gay, but that's just one small part of me, it does not define my whole existence, as some gay men allow it to do. Plus, I started life liking women, then moved on to being Bi, then settled on Gay, so talking to men about beautiful women just comes naturally to me, and a gorgeous woman can still catch me eye in a big way -I just don't want to have sex with them anymore. I think it all boils down to respect ya know? I know from firsthand knowledge that their are alot of gay men who are just as bad as straight men when it comes to expecting others to believe and think as they do. But I'm one of those people who embraces diversity, so I can relate to alot of people, no matter what their race, age or culture...it's all good to me. And your right about alot of those "macho & straight" guys doing gay things and laughing it off. Alot of "pre-gay" activity included doing those types of "gay pranks" with your bud, because it gives you a way of testing the waters without committing, and then being able to laugh it off. You'd be surprised what those guys end up doing behind closed doors, but as long as they play safe, it's all good...we all have to find our own way the best we can in this messed up world.

My flaccid is generally at 4 1/2" just doing normal things, that pic of my 6 inch "flaccid" was still puffed from my erection. I won't be "satisfied" with my flaccid until it at least reaches 6 inches, which is a good hang for my figure and frame. Big legs really can distort peoples' view of your flaccid, as well as your own. I oftentimes throughout the day fantasize how my dick would look on others when I look at random guys' thighs. As for length, you should get into vacuum hanging. There are a few threads around here about them. They're all overpriced, but they own the market. I'd love to get into the market cheap, as my girlfriend can make molds and such. Maybe she can have some time this summer to do some artistic stuff and make some molds. It'll be a long development, but it is one that I hope will come through.

stridge · Apr 19, 2007

10inchadvantage said:
My flaccid is generally at 4 1/2" just doing normal things, that pic of my 6 inch "flaccid" was still puffed from my erection. I won't be "satisfied" with my flaccid until it at least reaches 6 inches, which is a good hang for my figure and frame. Big legs really can distort peoples' view of your flaccid, as well as your own. I oftentimes throughout the day fantasize how my dick would look on others when I look at random guys' thighs. As for length, you should get into vacuum hanging. There are a few threads around here about them. They're all overpriced, but they own the market. I'd love to get into the market cheap, as my girlfriend can make molds and such. Maybe she can have some time this summer to do some artistic stuff and make some molds. It'll be a long development, but it is one that I hope will come through.

GashKing,

You have always seemed like a nice guy, but I need to second this sentiment. You probably need to take a good, hard look at how you view other cultures before you keep commenting - some of your remarks are flagrantly racist in nature. This is a pretty tolerant forum. People don't get on your case when you ramble on about orgies and your wifes anatomy and such, so I wonder how you feel its okay to chastise somebody for their use of language.

And, to put this in perspective, I've never seen you come down on anybody else's language no matter how profane or badly rendered. The forums are littered with poor english and extreme cursing - never before have you bothered to comment except when black street language is involved. The use of black cultural inflections obviously riles you up, and so I think you should ask yourself why this is. If it had been latino slang or any other ethnic group, do you think you would have needed to deride its usage? Say I were Jewish and had been joking around with somebody and used the slang term 'heeb' in a profane post that was filled with street slang - would you be on my case for that? It could be taken as a slur, after all, and that seems to be what you're complaining about. Also, despite the posts by other members, you remain hugely antogonistic towards ithiel, who was kind enough to more or less brush off your remarks, which I found to be far classier than your latest rebuttal.

And, frankly, fuck Don Imus. If you believe in a free market, then you should support Don Imus being fired, because he couldn't sustain any advertisers after his comments were publicized. Despite the generally unfunny and stupid nature of his remarks, he also chose to pick on people that were enjoying what will be one of the prime achievements of their lives. I don't get on his case about the racist/sexist nature of his comments - he's been at that for years - but the fact is, he got busted because it wasn't funny and it was damn mean-spirited, and he finally got called out for it. Boo-hoo, I think Don Imus will probably be alright in the end. The Rutgers women will always have an asteriks next to their championship now.

And for the record, it wasn't just "the blacks" that came after Imus - it was basically everybody. All this rhetoric about reverse-racism and 'black people are racist and shouldn't use the n-word' and blah blah blah has been spewed by the Limbaughs and Hannitys for a long time, but in the end it really doesn't matter, because they're in no real position to comment. Imus said something that the vast majority of people - black and white - think is stupid and offensive, and he paid a price.

It's funny, because your comments seem to convey (and I apologize if you feel this is putting words in your mouth) a sense of the typical 'whiny crybaby minorities' attitude where by which you feel they receive too mcuh special treatment and complain too much. I happen to disagree with this concept, but more importantly I find it funny that the anti-whining crowd has been so drippy and pissed off about Imus. As I said, he got fired because big money advertisers didn't want anything to do with his show, that's about as fair as it gets. Personally, I'm glad he got canned for saying some truly stupid and cruel shit.

stridge · Apr 19, 2007

Oops, meant to quote jqsderrida's last post - that may have been a little confusing.

Does Size Matter to Gay, HomoSexual Men ?

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