Cementing gains

Wanted to quote end up having everything in one paragraph. let me know if I need to re-write it for everyone else to read better. Apologies for the messed up replies ...lol.

Italianoinsg;590949 said:

Wanted to quote end up having everything in one paragraph. let me know if I need to re-write it for everyone else to read better. Apologies for the messed up replies ...lol.

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It's alright. Were not going to take you to the firing squad for this.

Hopefully I managed to find all you comments. I left one out since it seemed more of a statement.

Italianoinsg;590948 said:

Exactly, I can't really stretch further then my BPFSL anyway in the size genetic or with UJW, I can get probably 2mm but thats it. I own a size genetic and I have a DIY UJW.

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The BPFSL isn't meant to be stretched past, as the abbreviation entails, it's not possible. You can increase BPFSL through routine(s), but that's it.
You mean you can't stretch further than your BPEL while in flaccid state?

Assuming your BPFSL can't go past your BPEL. This is normal for some people.

Some say you can't gain unless you push past your current measurements. Like, how can I gain 1/4" if I can never push past a 1/4" on my current gains.
I'm not going to start a debate on this, but there are discussions out there about this issue. I never really had this 'problem' as I can stretch past my current BPEL.

You gain little by little anyways. That's why people only measure a month or months apart. If one was to measure every day, they would more than likely get discouraged over time and drop the idea that they can gain anything.

Italianoinsg;590948 said:

When I hand or UJ Strap I just node close to the head and attach to hanging weight / attach to under my kneee I get pretty good stretch and feel it when I walk especially and kind of like that feeling. so I dont get much hindering on girth as I dont wrap it I just attach it close to the head and let the head stop it from falling.

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You're using a strap to your knee (similar to the abs strap)? Sorry. I really didn't understand what you're trying to say here. I got confused w/ the mention of a hanging weight.

Italianoinsg;590948 said:

Sleeve as in while healing? soemthing like the divo cup or wrap it while using the extender? How to wrap it while with the extender My base can barely fit through the hole close to the base its extremely tight.... I thought maybe cos I grown quite a good amount since I first bought the Size genetic and now at the base it get super painful after a while.

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Not sure what you mean by "Sleeve as in while healing? soemthing like the divo cup or wrap it while using the extender?".

I wouldn't do that(wrapping) w/ an extender. It almost seems like you're wrapping your penis while it's in the extender. Are you doing that? Hopefully you're not. No, don't do that. The penis should be free of any restriction except for how the extender keeps the penis in place.

Seems like the SG has been helping though, even though you've stated only getting an hour or so in @ times. I would def work on fixing the pain issue.

Italianoinsg;590948 said:

Routine wise I did I am on the SRT now and Pushed jelqing and Hanging further then my limit. I meant upgrading size genetic with probably a wider base. do they have this option?

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I doubt it. Here is a quote from DLD last year.

doublelongdaddy;571480 said:

No, their base is determined in production with the hardware. The base on the SG should be good for most men....no too many guys have a flaccid girth of 6.5".

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It was from a thread asking if they made a bigger base. If you're actually having problems w/ their base. You might try speaking w/ DLD about this as he's an affiliate w/ them.

smerc;590957 said:

It was from a thread asking if they made a bigger base. If you're actually having problems w/ their base. You might try speaking w/ DLD about this as he's an affiliate w/ them.

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They do not make a bigger base, there is a couple extenders that do but they are crap quality.

doublelongdaddy;591082 said:

They do not make a bigger base, there is a couple extenders that do but they are crap quality.

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Thank you all for the enlightenment, I actually found the problem and the solution, I just have to wrap my base in some cloth and wear the extender, it worked marvel, end up having a 3 hour yesterday.

Now back to the main subject - Cementing Gains.

Anyone can add from their experience?

Italianoinsg;591185 said:

I actually found the problem and the solution, I just have to wrap my base in some cloth and wear the extender, it worked marvel

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Argh! I thought you were wrapping the whole shaft, not just the base due to pain. Damn I feel so dumb now.
If that cloth doesn't end up working for you. You can use foam backed cloth or some type of neoprene. Just cut a hole through that and cut around 1/4" - 1/2" past the OD of the extender base. You can hand wash it every day or every couple of days if it starts to take on the smell of a yeti's armpit.

Italianoinsg;591185 said:

Now back to the main subject - Cementing Gains.

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Sorry for the above. Had to rebuttal my stupidity from earlier.

@smerc dont worry about it mate, it does get confusing in Forums it happen to me all the time.

That is a bloody good idea. You gave me a brilliant one of cutting some rubber into the shape of the extender's base; with a hole to put in the cock..... brilliant suggestion, make it like the Pump plastic crap they have in the base of the pump.

Indeed the pain was only in the base closer to the balls, that wrapping did great TBO. I am guessing that that the neoprene is quite safe when it comes to long period of contact with the skin. Any thoughts on the safety side of such material; be it neoprene or rubber....?

smerc;591187 said:

Argh! I thought you were wrapping the whole shaft, not just the base due to pain. Damn I feel so dumb now.
If that cloth doesn't end up working for you. You can use foam backed cloth or some type of neoprene. Just cut a hole through that and cut around 1/4" - 1/2" past the OD of the extender base. You can hand wash it every day or every couple of days if it starts to take on the smell of a yeti's armpit.



Sorry for the above. Had to rebuttal my stupidity from earlier.

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Italianoinsg;591191 said:

@smerc cutting some rubber into the shape of the extender's base; with a hole to put in the cock.....

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Here is the BM comfort ring pad:
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Would have to just find something to match that diameter (maybe the goliath?). Might try looking @ certain types of weather stripping.
I think the neoprene would work better though, since it's universal as you can cut it to whatever width/length you want.

Italianoinsg;591191 said:

make it like the Pump plastic crap they have in the base of the pump.

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You got it. That's basically it.

Italianoinsg;591191 said:

I am guessing that that the neoprene is quite safe when it comes to long period of contact with the skin. Any thoughts on the safety side of such material; be it neoprene or rubber....?

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Erm. I know they make a lot of muscle/leg support products w/ neoprene. They also make neoprene wetsuits.
If you search "neoprene" "safe" or "safety", you see a site on the top talking about the chemicals within. As a rule of thumb, if there is only a few sites talking about it, then I usually push those aside.
I wouldn't worry about it as the product has to breakdown into a molecule small enough(molecular weight) to be absorbed into the skin.
Being a skin irritant is a different story.

Yeah will have to look into that. thanks pal.

smerc;591194 said:

Here is the BM comfort ring pad:
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Would have to just find something to match that diameter (maybe the goliath?). Might try looking @ certain types of weather stripping.
I think the neoprene would work better though, since it's universal as you can cut it to whatever width/length you want.


You got it. That's basically it.



Erm. I know they make a lot of muscle/leg support products w/ neoprene. They also make neoprene wetsuits.
If you search "neoprene" "safe" or "safety", you see a site on the top talking about the chemicals within. As a rule of thumb, if there is only a few sites talking about it, then I usually push those aside.
I wouldn't worry about it as the product has to breakdown into a molecule small enough(molecular weight) to be absorbed into the skin.
Being a skin irritant is a different story.

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Italianoinsg;591185 said:

Now back to the main subject - Cementing Gains.

Anyone can add from their experience?

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A really good cementing exercise I created is Erect Downward Stretching, basically, laying down in bed get yourself to a complete erection and with the penis pointed downward, against the ligamental angle, you will stretch using both hands, one at the extreme base, exposing as much internal penis as possible while the other hand stretches this exposed penis down with great intensity. Be sure to keep as much exposed as possible and to get a solid grip when stretching. When you get tired you can switch the position of the hands.

Another cementing method is to just continue training as usual until you gain about .25-.5" past your goal.

Italianoinsg;591199 said:

Yeah will have to look into that. thanks pal.

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You mentioned above about the vacuum sleeve and I did a bit more searching on it.

Here is a thread from a user that uses/used it: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?72988-Most-comfortable-way-I-ve-found-to-wear-SG (has pictures as well, but I included one below)
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27067&d=1365044708
Hopefully that's the end all be all way of reducing extender base pain.

smerc;591331 said:

You mentioned above about the vacuum sleeve and I did a bit more searching on it.

Here is a thread from a user that uses/used it: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?72988-Most-comfortable-way-I-ve-found-to-wear-SG (has pictures as well, but I included one below)
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27067&d=1365044708
Hopefully that's the end all be all way of reducing extender base pain.

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That's cool. Sweaty though I would imagine. I just pull the material of my boxers a bit through the extender base. Has always worked well for me.

Remember that cementing to attain erect gains means cementing erect in exercise. With a 100% erection all efforts to stretching will go to not only producing greater gains but cementing those gains quickly.

doublelongdaddy;591532 said:

Remember that cementing to attain erect gains means cementing erect in exercise. With a 100% erection all efforts to stretching will go to not only producing greater gains but cementing those gains quickly.

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So the erect stretching will cement? Ive started doing squeezes at about 70-90% erect should I do them 100% ?

doublelongdaddy;591532 said:

Remember that cementing to attain erect gains means cementing erect in exercise. With a 100% erection all efforts to stretching will go to not only producing greater gains but cementing those gains quickly.

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I've never stretched erect. Will have to plan out a program for this

youknowme123321;591747 said:

I've never stretched erect. Will have to plan out a program for this

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Please do! Even if it is only 3 times a week for as little as 5 minuets it will benefit your making gains permanent faster.

DLD, I need help. SO been doing SRT for 5 on 2 off. Measurement day today and I lost .2 in BFSL, .2 in FSL is it normal? am i doing something wrong?

Week Days Jelqin Pump Time Hanging Time Extender time
1 Monday 100 0 15 minute 30 min
Tuesday 300 40 min 35 min 75 mi (1h15)
Wednesday 400 30min 30 min
Thursday 300 60 min 40 min 90 min (1h30)
Friday 550 2x20min 30 min 80 min (1h20)
2 Monday 450 40 min 30 min 40 min
Tuesday 100 30min 30 min 60min
Wednesday 350 45min 45min
Thursday 250 20 min 60 min 60 minute
Friday 150 20min 60 min

doublelongdaddy;590509 said:

Keep your stretching routine as is but add in another 5 minutes of Manual Erect Stretches. You could do them using the LengthMaster if you are able to stay erect in the chamber but if not go manual.

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Italianoinsg;592408 said:

DLD, I need help. SO been doing SRT for 5 on 2 off. Measurement day today and I lost .2 in BFSL, .2 in FSL is it normal? am i doing something wrong?

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soft tissue can be more malleable at times than others. don't stress about it. if you have been working hard on PE sometime the tissue of the penis can stiffen a bit leading to less of a stretch. Use heat on your cock more before during or after training. I hang with heat on my cock now.

Man I was in panick this morning when I saw that I still am. it took me 3 month to get the .2

I thought it was maybe residual gain or non permanent gain. I tried again after shower but still the loss is there

youknowme123321;592421 said:

soft tissue can be more malleable at times than others. don't stress about it. if you have been working hard on PE sometime the tissue of the penis can stiffen a bit leading to less of a stretch. Use heat on your cock more before during or after training. I hang with heat on my cock now.

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Italianoinsg;592425 said:

Man I was in panick this morning when I saw that I still am. it took me 3 month to get the .2

I thought it was maybe residual gain or non permanent gain. I tried again after shower but still the loss is there

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Also massage your penis a few times a day. just deep massaging strokes to loosen tissue. Have seen DLD recommend this. Nothing will tighten up your balls and dicks like nervous panicking so try to leave that behind and keep consistent

youknowme123321;592428 said:

Also massage your penis a few times a day. just deep massaging strokes to loosen tissue. Have seen DLD recommend this. Nothing will tighten up your balls and dicks like nervous panicking so try to leave that behind and keep consistent

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I just made this. this is how i massage my cock. I had a great PE day. 80 minutes hanging. 5 hrs extending. 30 minutes extending with LengthMaster. Massage my cock for a few mins. Will wear my extender while i sleep on a low to medium tension for SRT.

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