YOUR Clamping VS. MY Clamping

[stillwantmore]

So after having yet another man send me a PM reflecting basically on why "he just cant gain" from clamping....I thought I would try and make a post (VS another video LOL) that made sense...to me anyway.

First of all, who here (who clamps anyway) can honestly say they do in fact clamp on a daily basis? I can. I clamp as close to 6 days a week as possible. I take Saturdays off, not because I feel I need to rest the tissues, but a break is nice once a week.

I dont understand totally why so many men who find Penis Enlargement forums come to these places with this mindset that the penis needs to be worked in a similar fashion to a muscle group. The penis, is for the most part SKIN and ligaments. Skin and ligaments respond best to frequent stretching, and exapansive pressures. Try and find a documented case where either in the medical community, or in ...oh lets use the body modification 'crowd' ....where skin was stretched infrequently, and spectacular results were had. You WONT.

I think whats going on, or who is at fault is most of these Penis Enlargement paysite owners. I'm not pointing fingers, or going to even do any 'hinting around'. These marketing gurus want to market an attractive package on their site, and they know that if you use words that are unatractive, fewer memberships will sell. If you tell prospective customers however, that big gains can be made and you outline a program where they only need commit to oh...15 minutes a day, on a "3 on, 2 off" routine for example, they can gain all they want.....you'll sell more memberships.

That point asside, fact is fact. I can gain 1/4" girth, on average in a months time because I have learned that clamping (or really any intense girth work but I prefer clamping because it really is EASY) needs to be done daily, or as close to daily as possible. I've tried to make the point I dont know how many times...but skin does not need "off time" to recover from stretching unless it has been stretched beyond its limits, AND has been physically damaged.

I make these gains when I work for about 45-60 minutes total a day, and as close to 6 days a week as possible.

I dont know, maybe I'm just a delusional weirdo and everyone really is working as hard as they say they are, and really "just cant gain"......

 

[millionman]

I agree with what you are saying in part. The biggest issue isn't the tissues needing recovery time similar to a muscle groups, it's actually allowing metabolic wastes to clear (ie fluid buildup). Now, this for most men isn't a problem after 8-12 hours but it could be a problem for those who have significant fluid buildup over the course of an intense session. In the case of girth work, once the penis is conditioned you are usually ok as long as the intensity is balanced along with the total volume. You will have erection problems if you work too intensely as well as too frequently because the tissue will need at least SOME time to recover between sessions. For some this is shorter or longer and that is entirely an individual thing.

I'm actually doing well with a jelq based routine with clamping every other day. I just went back to a double clamping routine last night. I'd been playing with the idea when I came across your post and it reminded me that I used to dual clamp and it worked very well. Again, after 2-3 days in a row of double clamping and my erections weren't very strong, but I haven't been having any problems using a jelqing routine everyday with one day off during the week, and clamping every other day.

The big thing for me too is that I'm really working on stretching and I [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] most of the day, and my length has really started to come along, finally. I can wholeheartedly agree with your post about stretching, because I've seen firsthand what heavy stretching can do in conjunction with an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. It really is an amazing thing. Great post SWM.

Any chance of bringing back the old SWM handle?

 

[mark1000]

That point asside, fact is fact. I can gain 1/4" girth, on average in a months time because I have learned that clamping (or really any intense girth work but I prefer clamping because it really is EASY) needs to be done daily......

I am very interested in your work.

Surely you are one of the greatest Penis Enlargement master around the web.

I am happy that you confirm your great post:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5641

in which you say that it is possible to make girth using also manual work and not necessarily a clamp device.

For my convenience I prefer to use cable clamp only once every 3 girth workouts.

Thank you very much for your very clear posts.

 

[ocd]

That point asside, fact is fact. I can gain 1/4" girth, on average in a months time because I have learned that clamping (or really any intense girth work but I prefer clamping because it really is EASY) needs to be done daily, or as close to daily as possible. I've tried to make the point I dont know how many times...but skin does not need "off time" to recover from stretching unless it has been stretched beyond its limits, AND has been physically damaged.

I make these gains when I work for about 45-60 minutes total a day, and as close to 6 days a week as possible.

Stillwantmore,

I really like your thoughts here man. I've been to many sites that suggest the "less is better" theory where you need to rest quite often and only work your cock 2 to 3 times per week, as though it responds like a muscle...crazy.

When I first read DLD's thoughts on training daily and why he felt that way, I could no longer see it any other way. These tissues are just as you describe, skin and ligaments. Therefore, daily training is acceptable and required in order to make gains.

I've all but stopped making progress and have been doing little manual exercises due to the limitiations I currently have. But over the last few days I've been reading and playing around with "hands free" exercises, specifically clamping and hanging for girth/length. And I'm pleased to say that I can not only tolerate this style of training but I can also enjoy it because it is easy. What I like about it is the fact that it's easy on my elbows and yet at the same time I'm stressing the tissues in my cock.

When you're clamping do you keep the intensity as close to 100% as possible where you feel you're bursting at the seams OR do you get yourself hard put the clamp on and just sit back losing some of your erection?

All of this comes down to one thing, discipline, which is what your summary pertains to. When I did Uli's routine, once I had laid a foundation of a daily regiment the gains came and I didn't see them ending...a quarter inch a month is very attainable provided girth work is done daily.

 

[velimirovich]

Stillwantmore2..

I quit clamping awhile ago because I found it made my erections weaker, not as intense. Do you notice this?? Does it not matter?

And I only did like 10mins a day.. I would use my hand as the clamp

 

[stillwantmore]

Stillwantmore,

When you're clamping do you keep the intensity as close to 100% as possible where you feel you're bursting at the seams OR do you get yourself hard put the clamp on and just sit back losing some of your erection?

Damn, I'm just gonna post my vids on clamping here...provided I can do so without limit like I can on mynewsize...otherwise I'll post a link. So many guys clamp improperly, and then whine about me charging $15 to learn how to do it right. I start out FLACCID, and work up the erection level AFTER the clamps are on. I'm going to post the videos. It's just too much easier to do it that way.

 

[stillwantmore]

Stillwantmore2..

I quit clamping awhile ago because I found it made my erections weaker, not as intense. Do you notice this?? Does it not matter?

And I only did like 10mins a day.. I would use my hand as the clamp

I clamp a consistent 45-60 minutes a day, broken up into several 15-20 minute sets and have had ZERO erection issues.

 

[blackice]

or discoloration, what your warmup like? I eased off a couple notches on the clamp cuz my skin was turning oil black < , it's since then lightend up acouple shades.

 

[stillwantmore]

or discoloration, what your warmup like? I eased off a couple notches on the clamp cuz my skin was turning oil black < , it's since then lightend up acouple shades.

OIL BLACK? That's odd. I've never gotten that dark. Purple ish while clamped, oh yea definitely.

 

[Juggers]

I was just ganna ask you that SWM abou discoloration....I used to clamp every day (and also do erect bends with it). I had to stop because of the discoloration. I also wasn't sure if I would truly gain, or the measurements I were getting were just from fluid build-up and not actual perminent gains.

Right now I have been doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] (yes I went back) about every other day...since I have no idea wth to do to gain more...I seem to be stuck. I just want to get to my short term goal of 7x5.5 by 2007. Im starting to get that horrible feeling...to feel like I will never gain again.

Perhaps I will try double clamping....and even impliment that split routine ppl here have been talking about where girth and stretching are done at different times. Some one help a brotha!

 

[goldmember]

Im starting to get that horrible feeling...to feel like I will never gain again.

I've had this feeling countless times. You need to rethink your routine, increase the intensity somehow. Every time I do this, I gain another mark on the ruler/tailor's tape. To put as a Dr. Philism, "you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself, and realize that you control your destiny" rofl

I don't think any of the big gainers experienced consistent gains 100% of the time. Everyone has plateaus. Figure out how to break yours.

 

[Juggers]

I've had this feeling countless times. You need to rethink your routine, increase the intensity somehow. Every time I do this, I gain another mark on the ruler/tailor's tape. To put as a Dr. Philism, "you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself, and realize that you control your destiny" rofl

I don't think any of the big gainers experienced consistent gains 100% of the time. Everyone has plateaus. Figure out how to break yours.

Thanks man...I think thats exactly what I have to do....I need a nice new routine, and increase my intensity....I gatta stop being so gentle with my dong. What do you think about a split routine...doing stretching and girth work seperately? Do you think a half an inch of length and girth is realistic by 2007?

 

[goldmember]

Thanks man...I think thats exactly what I have to do....I need a nice new routine, and increase my intensity....I gatta stop being so gentle with my dong. What do you think about a split routine...doing stretching and girth work seperately? Do you think a half an inch of length and girth is realistic by 2007?

Half an inch of girth and length could be done in a couple months, if your entirely new to Penis Enlargement or have some chemical assistance. BUT, for most of us conditioned Penis Enlargement'ers, I would plan about one year...six months minimum to acheive a goal like this. Everyone is different, so longer or shorter depending on personal factors.

If I were you, I'd train girth and length separately, like a bodybuilder doing bulking all by itself, and cutting all by itself. You can't accomplish nearly as much if trying to accomplish both simultaneously. As for the split routine...YES. But make BOTH the workouts girth, or both the workouts length. At least that is my opinion.

 

[Juggers]

Half an inch of girth and length could be done in a couple months, if your entirely new to Penis Enlargement or have some chemical assistance. BUT, for most of us conditioned Penis Enlargement'ers, I would plan about one year...six months minimum to acheive a goal like this. Everyone is different, so longer or shorter depending on personal factors.

If I were you, I'd train girth and length separately, like a bodybuilder doing bulking all by itself, and cutting all by itself. You can't accomplish nearly as much if trying to accomplish both simultaneously. As for the split routine...YES. But make BOTH the workouts girth, or both the workouts length. At least that is my opinion.

Ok I understand...You say that the split routine is a Go....but make both workouts either girth or length....so how would the routine look? If I lets say, do a stretch routine in my early part of the day, could I do the girth routine later on at night? Assuming its one stretch and one girth routine per day.

 

[goldmember]

Ok I understand...You say that the split routine is a Go....but make both workouts either girth or length....so how would the routine look? If I lets say, do a stretch routine in my early part of the day, could I do the girth routine later on at night? Assuming its one stretch and one girth routine per day.

You can do whatever you would like, but if you are asking for what I would do in your situation, I would either do two stretching routines or two girth routines. Plain and simple.

 

[Juggers]

You can do whatever you would like, but if you are asking for what I would do in your situation, I would either do two stretching routines or two girth routines. Plain and simple.

wait a minute...lol....so one or the other? How would I gain girth by just stretching....or length by just clamping? God I am slow rofl

 

[millionman]

Honestly, from experience you can do too much with Penis Enlargement. If you work girth twice a day you do run the risk of fatigue causing you to not be as erect or even become erect. With stretching you can't really over do it, but it is possible to have sensitivity issues with the head and skin irritation problems as well.

In my experiences going to either extreme, all girth or all length, does not help me from a physical perspective (growth) as well as a mental perspective. The mental issue is broken down to, "I'm doing all this work but I'm not getting anywhere". I can honestly say that if you want length and girth, you can do both length and girth at the same time but separated by at least 6-8 hours. With the length work finished you would then put on an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device, my preference is the Vac-extender, and wear it for 2-4 hours post stretching alernating sides every time I go the the restroom. Along with my jelqing and clamping in the late evenings, I'm seeing solid and consistent gains in both length and girth, so far. If this progress ceases, then I will try something different. I have done many a routine with intensity, total time, total number of reps, girth only, length only, and I've gained the most from a dual program where I spend time on both.

I had to come to the realization that this is a process and that it takes time. All of these routines and deadlines put pressure on guys to find the "next big thing" and try things that really aren't going to make them grow any faster. I've been around for 3 years and I still haven't reached my goal, mainly because for the first year to year and a half I spent my time trying every "new" thing that got posted here. It's the moderate approach that will keep you safe and keep you gaining. I've learned this the hard way from injuries, discoloration, soft erections, and absolutely no desire to Penis Enlargement every again, that I finally came to this conclusion.

 

[gimmegirth]

What are your thoughts on allday or allnight clamping (not tight of course). I know Reds done something like this?
I've tried ANC a few times with a light clamp so I can still pump blood in and out with ease.
I woke up every morning with a medium pump on.
I just think why waste those nocturnal woodies!

 

[stillwantmore]

What are your thoughts on allday or allnight clamping (not tight of course). I know Reds done something like this?
I've tried ANC a few times with a light clamp so I can still pump blood in and out with ease.
I woke up every morning with a medium pump on.
I just think why waste those nocturnal woodies!

I really dont know that anyone has tested this method with consistency. I've seen the idea 'tossed around' many times on many forums however.

 

[Juggers]

Honestly, from experience you can do too much with Penis Enlargement. If you work girth twice a day you do run the risk of fatigue causing you to not be as erect or even become erect. With stretching you can't really over do it, but it is possible to have sensitivity issues with the head and skin irritation problems as well.

In my experiences going to either extreme, all girth or all length, does not help me from a physical perspective (growth) as well as a mental perspective. The mental issue is broken down to, "I'm doing all this work but I'm not getting anywhere". I can honestly say that if you want length and girth, you can do both length and girth at the same time but separated by at least 6-8 hours. With the length work finished you would then put on an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device, my preference is the Vac-extender, and wear it for 2-4 hours post stretching alernating sides every time I go the the restroom. Along with my jelqing and clamping in the late evenings, I'm seeing solid and consistent gains in both length and girth, so far. If this progress ceases, then I will try something different. I have done many a routine with intensity, total time, total number of reps, girth only, length only, and I've gained the most from a dual program where I spend time on both.

I had to come to the realization that this is a process and that it takes time. All of these routines and deadlines put pressure on guys to find the "next big thing" and try things that really aren't going to make them grow any faster. I've been around for 3 years and I still haven't reached my goal, mainly because for the first year to year and a half I spent my time trying every "new" thing that got posted here. It's the moderate approach that will keep you safe and keep you gaining. I've learned this the hard way from injuries, discoloration, soft erections, and absolutely no desire to Penis Enlargement every again, that I finally came to this conclusion.

...well said there millionman. That makes a lot of since because I think thats what I am doing...and I am not being very consistant. I really don't know when I should change things up...or If I even need to....It seems that every time an excersize comes out, an even better one surpasses it. There are so many things to do, and like you said there is so little time we gives ourselves to reach the goals. ::goes into a state of repose::

 

[velimirovich]

Stillwantmore2..

I just started yesterday doing clamping..

It makes my dick HUGEEE whoa..

Fuck dude.. I clamped for 1 hour last night, and at the end, with the clamp still on, my base was over 6inches, middle shaft 6.. etc.. fuckkkk SWEEET

I just finished clamping again for about 40 minutes now, when I wokeup.

It's awesome I think im gonna be addicted to this..

Let me ask you a question.. with clamping.. is more.. = better?

because I can do 2 hours a day, I dont mind.. instead of say doing only an hour a day.. or is 1 hour better?

i luv clamping, I wokeup and my dick was like.. just felt heavier n shit.. its great.

 

[stillwantmore]

Stillwantmore2..

I just started yesterday doing clamping..

It makes my dick HUGEEE whoa..

Fuck dude.. I clamped for 1 hour last night, and at the end, with the clamp still on, my base was over 6inches, middle shaft 6.. etc.. fuckkkk SWEEET

I just finished clamping again for about 40 minutes now, when I wokeup.

It's awesome I think im gonna be addicted to this..

Let me ask you a question.. with clamping.. is more.. = better?

because I can do 2 hours a day, I dont mind.. instead of say doing only an hour a day.. or is 1 hour better?

i luv clamping, I wokeup and my dick was like.. just felt heavier n shit.. its great.

Well, to a degree I would say yes on the "is more better" with clamping. You need to be the judge on that though. I'm getting very GOOD results with "only" 45-60 minutes average total clamping time daily.

 

[ocd]

I just started clamping on Monday the 12th and I can say that I'm hooked.

I read Redzulu's 37 page training manual and had some questions about effectiveness. I then went and played around with using 1 wrap and then 2 wraps...then 1 clamp vs 2 clamps...then 1 clamp and a hose clamp with a small permanent butterfly styled handle (really cool actually and bought it at HomeDepot).

I watched my cock get the thickest overall from top to bottom that I've ever seen this morning...along with a beautiful purple color. But I'm an idiot. I couldn't resist trying some very light uli's and gentle bends...WOW!!!

And I'm getting zero fluid build up.

Tonight I took about 25mg of viagra just for the clamping session. My first set was for about 60 min and the second one was for about 30 min. When I attempted a third I could never get hard so I was done. My wife gently grabbed my cock tonight while I was clamping and she was impressed with the max erection level and veins. Level 10.

What's easiest for me is to have my wraps/clamps next to the bed so as soon as I wake up I put it on and just lay there, waking up for the next 30 min or so, clamping.

Full tilt boogie.

 

[millionman]

Juggers, That is essentially one of the biggest issues many of the guys here have to face. There's a "time frame" that we all have in mind when we first start out and then you pass that by and you realize this is a journey and something that should be ENJOYED. We're in too much of a hurry in all other respects in our current culture and that undoubtedly percipitates into our mindset when we Penis Enlargement. The only thing that being in a rush will bring is discoloration, extreme discomfort, injury, and utter bewilderment at your own stupidity. That's me two years ago, always chasing the new thing and wanting to have the 8X6 of my dreams, and pretty miserable the whole time. This changed once I got my head on straight about being patient, enjoying life as a whole, and working towards the goals I set regardless of the time frame.

The most important thing for us is to put the work in and know that we are taking steps towards that goal. Doing things like manual stretches and wearing an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] isn't very difficult, but it's not SEXY either and it's nothing NEW. We can pull it, squeeze it, hang weights off of it, but in the end it's all the same and nothing is going to speed up the process. Some exercises are more intense than others, sure, but is that what YOU need at that moment in your Penis Enlargement career or is it something that you imagine will get you the 8X6 tomorrow?