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I've been on these forums and around Penis Enlargement for years. I've tried just about everything. I know guys who were fooled into buying [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. You can't find more than a couple of guys out of 10s of thousands who think that device is worth anything.

The questions remain: why are you pushing them so hard? And why are you citing their marketing B.S. ? And why are your only two posts pimping [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]? And why are you attacking me for giving my opinion? And where is your personal evidence to the contrary? (And not their website hype or a paid-for announcement on a TV channel. )

As an aside, you can buy TV shows. CNN, Fox, MSNBC and many other journalism based programs sell time right inside their documentaries and news programming. My company was approached by CNBC to buy a segment in one of their technology news segments. Only $40K and they would present us as though we were today's newsmakers. What a sham.
 
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MoreGains123;354972 said:
You're pushing [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] with made up evidence. This is what I've been saying: [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] has been making up evidence since day one. You sound like an ad for them.

I've been on these forums and around Penis Enlargement for years. I've tried just about everything. I know guys who were fooled into buying [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. You can't find more than a couple of guys out of 10s of thousands who think that device is worth anything.

The questions remain: why are you pushing them so hard? And why are you citing their marketing B.S. ? And why are your only two posts pimping [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]? And why are you attacking me for giving my opinion? And where is your personal evidence to the contrary? (And not their website hype or a paid-for announcement on a TV channel. )

As an aside, you can buy TV shows. CNN, Fox, MSNBC and many other journalism based programs sell time right inside their documentaries and news programming. My company was approached by CNBC to buy a segment in one of their technology news segments. Only $40K and they would present us as though we were today's newsmakers. What a sham.

Like I said, I'm not a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] affiliate.. You can probably tell seeing as I'm not backing [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] with evidence... i'm just a curious Penis Enlargement'ER who's questioning.. Like everyone I want facts & feedback which in turn will broaden my knowledge regards to Penis Enlargement. It's really so I know what to avoid & what works.. I'm sorry if it feels like an attack lol :P, I didn't mean it to be, just questioning; that's the way you keep yourself exempt from problematic issues.
Like you stated earlier I had only posted twice. Yes this is true, but I have been following the Penis Enlargement scene for a good 7/8months. I only came across mattersofsize a few months ago, I mainly read up on the mensnetworks one. Both are good sources of information, although I'd say mattersofsize is more active & updates more frequently.
However, the main issue we're trying to address is what works, so seeing as your an experienced Penis Enlargement'ER what do you feel works best, personally?
 
I think getting the jelq mastered is job one. There is probably nothing moe reliable and effective because it can be varied for both length and girth depending upon the squeeze, the duration and the force.

The trouble I had with it was I eventually bored of doing it. So I tried every device I saw that looked reasonable. Vacuums, clamps, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], leg straps, etc. name something and it's probably around my house somewhere.

To make a very long story short: I settled on moderate hanging followed by moderate [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work. I think either could work separately as I have witnessed this to be true. However in an effort to reduce the hours of Penis Enlargement I experimented with a combination and have been having success. When done correctly I think hanging is the ultimate length technique. I think jelqing is the safest girth technique: but with the caveat of taking a while to achieve good results.

To address the title of this thread: I think that if you can wear it long enough, they all work. So find something comfortable.
 
hey moregains, just a question about the wrap u use for your bib hardcore hanging. ive decided to do full set of SOL then a full set of SOR as u recommended. do u use just the theraband, or sum cloth underlay then theraband. thanks man. do u think there'd be anybenefit from manual stretches with the hd ss dome as the grip instead of your hand after the set of the hd ss?
 
Cunilinguist;355025 said:
Hey moregains, did you see stevie7in had some good stuff to say about the HD SS? I can't wait till I get one and a BIB to go with it.
Do yourself a favor and don't jump in too hard and fast. If it starts out as a race to gains you'll end up sitting it out due to injury. My experience is that the first couple of months into a routine is all preparation for the third and fourth month when the gains really start. So take it easy.
 
beldin1;355043 said:
hey moregains, just a question about the wrap u use for your bib hardcore hanging. ive decided to do full set of SOL then a full set of SOR as u recommended. do u use just the theraband, or sum cloth underlay then theraband. thanks man. do u think there'd be anybenefit from manual stretches with the hd ss dome as the grip instead of your hand after the set of the hd ss?
I use just the theraband. A couple of years back I used cloth underneath but was able to associate that with some skin issues so I dropped it.

I think using the HD head dome for manuals can be a good idea but you have to be very careful. With that setup you can easily pull much harder than the skin on your glans can handle.
 
MoreGains123;355077 said:
I use just the theraband. A couple of years back I used cloth underneath but was able to associate that with some skin issues so I dropped it.

I think using the HD head dome for manuals can be a good idea but you have to be very careful. With that setup you can easily pull much harder than the skin on your glans can handle.[/QUOTE

would u be able to tell me how long the piece of theraband is u use?, mine is currently about 17 inches long and 2 inches wide. i agree cloth does cause skin issues. i have some other questions
1. do u ever hang SO with a fulcrum?
2.what weight have u gotten up to with the hardcore and how long did it take to get there? thanks
 
I use a piece 15 inches long by 1.5 inches wide.

I have hung with a fulcrum but not with any luck. It provides a type of fatigue but I was never sure it was doing anything other than bruising internal tissue. It makes sense that it would work and that it would cause a targeting of the force but I never went very far with it.

The max I've hung with the hard core was about 30 lbs. This took three months of about 5 hours a day. I'd say this weight would normally take 6 months to achieve using 2 hours a day.
 
one more thing moregains, what exactly does fatigue feel like, i have hung for a while with the original bib but i never think i really got fatigue?, could u explain what it feels like and when it sets in. thanks
 
It comes on like soreness and feels strained but not hurting. For me it ranges between mid-shaft to the attachment points. The key is to back off the weight at this point: do not think more weight is going to do more!
 
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