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Some fathers have their sons playing tackle football at 7 years old. So lets say that at birth you realize that your son may need PE. What Age Should You Start Your Son On PE And How Should You Go About It ? This is a SERIOUS QUESTION.
 
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I would think I would at least wait til he was at the age when he starts noticing girls. Then you know that that part of his mind and body were starting to change into that mind set and for each boy it's going to be different ages. Also his maturity level needs to be considered. I had my first real kiss when I was 9 and had my first sexual experience when I was 13 and not bragging or anything but I was more mature than other kids my age. I think I could have handled it then if my dad would've at least introduced me to some basic PE. like some light stretches and jelqing. Now my now wife's son who is 28, I don't think he could handle it even now at his age but he's very immature. So I think the maturity level is very important. Some boys would just giggle like a school girl and run telling their friends "hey listen what dad's wanting me to do." I never had a son but I did have 2 girls and we have a great relationship and I think that is also key. Have a great relationship with your son now til he reaches that age (I think you'll know) and it will make it a lot easier to introduce him to this PE world and when you do don't just throw everything at him at once, keep it simple. Tell him "hey, I want to explain a couple things to you that will help you the rest of your life, not only physically but also mentally as well." I knew a kid I played football with when I was in high school in the late 80's and his pecker hung almost to his knees. Come to find out I was told he beat off everyday 2 or 3 times a day. I'm not sure how big PE was back then but I wonder now if maybe his dad didn't pass on something to him. Who knows. Anyway most importantly, always have a good relationship with your kids, boy or girl, let them know they can always come to you for anything. That will help keep the door open for anything when they're ready. Heck with this day and age of information he might even come to you and ask you about PE.
 
IVEADREAM;594860 said:
I would think I would at least wait til he was at the age when he starts noticing girls. Then you know that that part of his mind and body were starting to change into that mind set and for each boy it's going to be different ages. Also his maturity level needs to be considered. I had my first real kiss when I was 9 and had my first sexual experience when I was 13 and not bragging or anything but I was more mature than other kids my age. I think I could have handled it then if my dad would've at least introduced me to some basic PE. like some light stretches and jelqing. Now my now wife's son who is 28, I don't think he could handle it even now at his age but he's very immature. So I think the maturity level is very important. Some boys would just giggle like a school girl and run telling their friends "hey listen what dad's wanting me to do." I never had a son but I did have 2 girls and we have a great relationship and I think that is also key. Have a great relationship with your son now til he reaches that age (I think you'll know) and it will make it a lot easier to introduce him to this PE world and when you do don't just throw everything at him at once, keep it simple. Tell him "hey, I want to explain a couple things to you that will help you the rest of your life, not only physically but also mentally as well." I knew a kid I played football with when I was in high school in the late 80's and his pecker hung almost to his knees. Come to find out I was told he beat off everyday 2 or 3 times a day. I'm not sure how big PE was back then but I wonder now if maybe his dad didn't pass on something to him. Who knows. Anyway most importantly, always have a good relationship with your kids, boy or girl, let them know they can always come to you for anything. That will help keep the door open for anything when they're ready. Heck with this day and age of information he might even come to you and ask you about PE.


Being the young age I am, funny or not I have thought about this as well. I would've been VERY happy if I had discovered PE back when I was 13-14. I would've had my dream size on the age of 16-17 (especially because of the hormonal puberty boost to PE). But I AGREE 100% with this post! It really depends on how mature the kid is and what relationship you two have. Great post, great thread! :)
 
IVEADREAM: I think Zam was right. Your post is very helpful.
 
I have a son from my first wife, now in his 30's, and if I had know about PE back then, I would have told him about it at age 12 which is recognized as the age of accountability since at that age a deeper conscious awareness begins. Couple that with brain plasticity, and you have a PE monster in the making........provided he even takes to PE after you tell him.
 
youknowme123321;594647 said:
interesting they are called permanent gains when they are not lol...misleading lol

I agree, though DLD seems to be using the word "permanent" to refer to "cemented" gains now so we might be looking at the dawn of a less confusing era soon.
His recent posts make no distinction between temporary and the old "permanent" so the terminology could still use a little refining IMO.
 
I'd say it's about maturity and openness. If you're open and honest with your son, he'll be open to it. You know your son best. When the time is right, you'll know and do it. I personally would slowly introduce it, not all at once.
 
higherone;594936 said:
I'd say it's about maturity and openness. If you're open and honest with your son, he'll be open to it. You know your son best. When the time is right, you'll know and do it. I personally would slowly introduce it, not all at once.

Agree with you. Being open goes both ways so if you are trusting with your emotions and experience with your child he will return this openness when he needs help. My Son knows all about PE but chooses not to participate and I respect that but if the time came where he needed help I know he would come to me.
 
doublelongdaddy;594949 said:
Agree with you. Being open goes both ways so if you are trusting with your emotions and experience with your child he will return this openness when he needs help. My Son knows all about PE but chooses not to participate and I respect that but if the time came where he needed help I know he would come to me.

And that openness and honesty is in all things, not just PE. You're right DLD.
 
higherone;594951 said:
And that openness and honesty is in all things, not just PE. You're right DLD.

When we are honest and open with our children they always find comfort in this. The closeness of a Father and Son is priceless and a guaranty that you will not miss out on the important parts of your Son's life. My Son and I are like best friends and share everything with each other and there is nothing better than to have this type of relationship. And it does not just benefit your child but also yourself. We do get older but sharing in the youth of your children will always keep you young at heart.
 
Pretty sure there are a few father son PE'ers in the group now with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] being over a decade old!
 
higherone;595091 said:
Pretty sure there are a few father son PE'ers in the group now with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] being over a decade old!

I know there are, I hope [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is a tradition all fathers pass on to their children when the time is right.
 
I realized I had a smallish dick when I was a junior in HS at age 16. I would have appreciated knowing about PE at the time so I could have avoided a 4.5" X 4.4" NBPE at the end of puberty. However, I doubt the standoffish relationship I had with my father would have helped had he been aware.

I have two sons, currently in their late 30's and not sure if my relationship with them at the time of their puberty would have fostered a discussion regarding penis size. Still have no idea how big their dicks are and don't feel comfortable asking them now about their size.
 
Disco Dave;594848 said:
Some fathers have their sons playing tackle football at 7 years old. So lets say that at birth you realize that your son may need PE. What Age Should You Start Your Son On PE And How Should You Go About It ? This is a SERIOUS QUESTION.

When my son was only a year old my wife asked the doctor if we should be worried about his small penis.

The response was the typical - it's not a problem.

Not having gone through fatherhood before and not knowing my own growth rate nor anything about PE, I let it ride.

He is now in his mid thirties, I'm certain with a marginal unit, which I believe caused him to lose his first love.

He has publicly thanked me for his receding hairline, which is mine.

He is slightly taller than me at 6-3, built like a brick wall.

He takes after his mother's side of the family in regards to vision, I don't know where the small unit came from, other than the world of chemicals in which we live.

If I had known about PE in his developing years, I would definitely have helped him at an early age.

BJ
 
BaddJack;595250 said:
When my son was only a year old my wife asked the doctor if we should be worried about his small penis.

The response was the typical - it's not a problem.

Not having gone through fatherhood before and not knowing my own growth rate nor anything about PE, I let it ride.

He is now in his mid thirties, I'm certain with a marginal unit, which I believe caused him to lose his first love.

He has publicly thanked me for his receding hairline, which is mine.

He is slightly taller than me at 6-3, built like a brick wall.

He takes after his mother's side of the family in regards to vision, I don't know where the small unit came from, other than the world of chemicals in which we live.

If I had known about PE in his developing years, I would definitely have helped him at an early age.

BJ

create a random email account and email him the matter of size website an forum...it is never to late to start PE!!
 
I may get a lot of akward responses from this, but I am a 26 year old father with going on 4 kids, yeah Mike go ahead and laugh now, I'm on my 4th now! haha But here is my reply to this question. My sons mother knows all about PE, hell she even approves of it, lucky stuff. But to be honest it makes her laugh everytime I tell her to let my 4 month son pull on his penis, and it'll make it grow. I let my boy go without a diaper pulling on his dingledude whenever free time allows it. I strongly think that PE should be introduced to every family when the birds and the bees convo gets struck up. Hell I've heard about mothers teaching the steps of masturbation to daughters, I think as a father I will teach and be open ear'd about PE to my sons when the birds and bees convo strikes up, if no questioning, right around 8ish I believe is a good time to start communicating about it all
 
I started PE when I was 14. I got into self-improvement seriously when I hit 13, from IQ to fitness to my dick haha. These days, I see more and more boys deciding to fall back on status or be it money one day, than primal sexual attraction like a big muscular back or a thick dick. Even worse, their intelligence cant seem to rival that of my generations smart folk, the kids born after 2004 seem to be either totally retarted or scary bright outcasts. Im glad [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] exists to bring balance back to these lost lads, society and feminism have shunned masculinity and have confused these boys since their tender age.
 
RUBY10";595379 said:
I started PE when I was 14. I got into self-improvement seriously when I hit 13, from IQ to fitness to my dick haha. These days, I see more and more boys deciding to fall back on status or be it money one day, than primal sexual attraction like a big muscular back or a thick dick. Even worse, their intelligence cant seem to rival that of my generations smart folk, the kids born after 2004 seem to be either totally retarted or scary bright outcasts. Im glad [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] exists to bring balance back to these lost lads, society and feminism have shunned masculinity and have confused these boys since their tender age.

Since I am an old man I can completely understand what you are saying, but I started this journey as a young man. I have seen many boys come here and through the maturity of our work become men. Some guys when they first started were 18 and they are still here at 28 so this brings a lot of pride to us. I believe the world is on a steady downfall due to the social networks and the like, if the internet was down they would not know where to go or what to do.
 
doublelongdaddy;595380 said:
I have seen many boys come here and through the maturity of our work become men. Some guys when they first started were 18 and they are still here at 28 so this brings a lot of pride to us.

That's the lasting legacy of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Brotherhood- passing it on!
 
higherone;595629 said:
That's the lasting legacy of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Brotherhood- passing it on!

11 years and going!
 
I would wait and see what confidence level he would have. Or when having birds and the bees talk let him in on that it's ok to do some pulling and stretching for health reasons down there.
 
Happywithbm;596200 said:
I would wait and see what confidence level he would have. Or when having birds and the bees talk let him in on that it's ok to do some pulling and stretching for health reasons down there.

That is the smartest way in my opinion. I think the boy needs to be in the right state of mind to grasp what we preach here. I think, with the internet, many kids would find us on their own without a talk. Although in the real world things are not quite accepted in PE yet, the internet world has embraced them.
 
Happywithbm;596200 said:
I would wait and see what confidence level he would have. Or when having birds and the bees talk let him in on that it's ok to do some pulling and stretching for health reasons down there.

I agree, I would give my son little "health tips" for his penis to get him doing p.e. without ever realizing it. Kind of like when I was a child my parents taught me general hygiene having not been circumcised, I can remember theme telling me to always roll my skin back to piss and to shower. May seem kind of like something obvious to do for most guys but this is something that really etched into my brain at that age, and it became a habit. Light jelqing and stretching could also become a habit for our sons until we feel they're mature enough to know more.
 
Jaronimo;596308 said:
I agree, I would give my son little "health tips" for his penis to get him doing p.e. without ever realizing it. Kind of like when I was a child my parents taught me general hygiene having not been circumcised, I can remember theme telling me to always roll my skin back to piss and to shower. May seem kind of like something obvious to do for most guys but this is something that really etched into my brain at that age, and it became a habit. Light jelqing and stretching could also become a habit for our sons until we feel they're mature enough to know more.

A child is very impressionable and many times what we reflect to them becomes a permanent part of their psyche and this is why it is important to be gentle in our expression of things having to do with sexuality. The right time and place will happen if it is supposed to happen and offing the Brotherhood would be appropriate at that time. We have to remember that our children may not feel the way we did and there is no reason to give them an issue if it is not warranted.
 
I wouldn't ever introduce my son to PE, but I might find a way to leave something about jelqing where he'd be bound to find it. If he was interested, he could start his journey to learn more. Who knows, he could be born 9" and not want to be any bigger. Only time will tell.
 
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hahaha
 
youknowme123321;598941 said:
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hahaha

Good way to kill the boy's confidence haha
 
youknowme123321;598941 said:
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hahaha

I would talk with him first. Don't just give him the bag unprepared to know what it is or why you're giving it too him. He may develop a complex if you don't lay the groundwork first.
 
higherone;599516 said:
I would talk with him first. Don't just give him the bag unprepared to know what it is or why you're giving it too him. He may develop a complex if you don't lay the groundwork first.

No doubt, the kid would be like, "Santa think I got a little winkie"
 
higherone;599516 said:
I would talk with him first. Don't just give him the bag unprepared to know what it is or why you're giving it too him. He may develop a complex if you don't lay the groundwork first.

Exactly. "you mean even my dad knows I'm not big enough?" Not a good way to start puberty.
 
dmoney101;599549 said:
Exactly. "you mean even my dad knows I'm not big enough?" Not a good way to start puberty.

Not so much that. You can explain it in a way that's like, "Not that you NEED it, but if you want to go from GOOD to GREAT...." so that he knows he's fine the way he is. It's all in your approach with him. Same way with masturbation. You can make him think he's a freak/dirty or make him think it's normal. It's all in the approach.
 
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A good parent will know if their Son is having sexual issues and a good Brother here will know how to give them direction. My Son comes to me with everything and if he ever wanted to get bigger he knows I can give him proper direction. Building a close, trusting relationship with your child will give both of you help in many ways.
 
doublelongdaddy;599724 said:
A good parent will know if their Son is having sexual issues and a good Brother here will know how to give them direction. My Son comes to me with everything and if he ever wanted to get bigger he knows I can give him proper direction. Building a close, trusting relationship with your child will give both of you help in many ways.

Or you can go the old school Catholic route and just tell him that everything he's thinking and feeling is the devil, so he better not touch his penis ever lol
 
dmoney101;599741 said:
Or you can go the old school Catholic route and just tell him that everything he's thinking and feeling is the devil, so he better not touch his penis ever lol

Very old school Catholicism, today Catholics are a bit more forgiving.
 
dmoney101;599829 said:
Yes nowadays priests are actually quite fond of little boys touching themselves lol

With Pope Francis at the helm of the church I know these things will stop. I already consider him a saint.
 
doublelongdaddy;600011 said:
With Pope Francis at the helm of the church I know these things will stop. I already consider him a saint.

There's no way one man can change the perversions of mankind. It's not like being priests is what led any of them to be pedophiles. They already were into it, then the power that came from being the head of a church put them in a position to take advantage.
 
dmoney101;600106 said:
There's no way one man can change the perversions of mankind. It's not like being priests is what led any of them to be pedophiles. They already were into it, then the power that came from being the head of a church put them in a position to take advantage.

A change starts with one person and so far Pope Francis has been very proactive in and out of the church. His humble background and deep love for mankind will prove to help the church and get rid of those who do not belong. But, pedophilia is not a Catholic disorder, it is a universal problem.
 
doublelongdaddy;599724 said:
A good parent will know if their Son is having sexual issues and a good Brother here will know how to give them direction. My Son comes to me with everything and if he ever wanted to get bigger he knows I can give him proper direction. Building a close, trusting relationship with your child will give both of you help in many ways.

That's the key...the relationship comes first. The PE is a natural outflow of a close relationship.
 
dmoney101;601907 said:
Yeah the internet will teach you things you never wanted to know lol.

Indeed! I remember a time when news sources needed to back what they publish, today they just make it up and like sheep the people believe everything they see. With good research, like the type of research I did growing up, you can find answers to many topics with accuracy but if you go out and believe everything you see without research you are most likely getting information that is not correct. Wikipedia still does not recognize our work as a viable form of enlargement, this shows just how wrong even a reputable source can be. If you want to learn something take the time to research it and be sure you are getting good information.
 
Just because it's in a book doesn't make it true. There's always going to be crap info floating around, but the internet has made the garbage outweigh the truth.
 
8incyclops;602079 said:
So when is the right age to tell him?but also you don't want to ruin his brain by thinking a big cock is everything
Anytime after puberty is ok, but I don't think it's really necessary. Unless he has a micro penis or is a seriously late bloomer it's probably not going to do anything. I try to get my step sons into sports and you know kids hate anything their parents like. I think bringing up PE could just alienate your son unless he genuinely needs it...
 
8incyclops;602079 said:
So when is the right age to tell him?but also you don't want to ruin his brain by thinking a big cock is everything

true you dont want him to think a big cock is everything. tough to say an exact age. his personality and maturity level will play a big factor. I would most likely find a way to discreetly share it with him possibly without him know it was me. email or something like that.
 
We need to understand, as Fathers, that our children may not have the same issues we have and pushing something on them that is not needed could cause serious complex issues. A good parent will know when their children need help.
 
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