So, what IS the best overall device for FR??

[stillwantmore]

Posted similar yesterday I think on Kongs forum but guess ya been busy man. The "CAT II" or what? Just curious. I'm not directly restoring at the time, but may use FR in conjunction with hanging when I restart hanging in the next few weeks.

 

[Stuff_]

I would say the CAT II is the best device for FR, it's what I use, though I've not been wearing it much lately because I don't want to at work.

By the way, I don't want to get on that topic or change the subject of this post, but that one line there in your sig shows a massive amount of ignorance and isn't funny. :s

 

[Jason1]

Pumping

 

[stillwantmore]

By the way, I don't want to get on that topic or change the subject of this post, but that one line there in your sig shows a massive amount of ignorance and isn't funny. :s

Oh gosh and golly! I sure hate offending people or comming off as ignint...please enlighten me! :s

 

[TheExecutioner]

Best device depends on what you can wear. If you can wear a tugging device with straps (suspendars) then T-tape, [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] or CAT should suffice. I have chose the cat out of the three and havent made a bad choice at all. If you cant wear these devices in the day then you should do a method such as O rings.

 

[stillwantmore]

Sounds like I might have to get a CATII then. I'll be wearing it around my place mostly anyway when I'm not hanging. Can it be worn while sleeping?

 

[Jason1]

NO. The CAT is very dangerous to where while sleeping.

 

[millionman]

Still, I think overall the best device for FR is the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words]. My primary reason for this is because it's so easy to get on and off, and is very effective for restoring. I also like it cause I have the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as well and I interchange them. Once you learn how to use it, it's absolutely the best around. I've read a good bit about some of the others, but they don't seem to be as easy to use. That could just be me though.

And honestly what's wrong with eating cows???

 

[kong1971]

I like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words]. It's easy to get on and off, seems to be giving me some good progress, and it helps with the flaccid hang when I'm not wearing it. You supposedly can sleep with it on, but I don't because it annoys me and I wake up or pull it off in my sleep. At night, I just cross tape, to keep some light tension on, and to keep the ole mushroom head good and juicy!

PS-- eating cows helps with FR...more protein for skin growth (j/k)

 

[German Stallion]

Just read this post for the first time. Have to say that the best and quickest way to Foreskin restoration is still, in my opinion, pumping. You get extra skin right away and you can cover your glans quickly. I have total coverage all day all the time flaccid, and good coverage semi. GS

 

[kong1971]

Thanks, GS. The only thing that bothers me with pumping -- and no offense -- is my fear that it will negate the sensitivity boost that FR gives. You say you feel no difference in sensitivity being restored from pumping, and that's what scares me about it. Why go through all the trouble of restoring it if it feels no better? The sensitivity increase is one of the main draws of FR. Please give me your honest opinion. Several restorers are considering pumping and we need to figure this out. Also, if you pump just until you are restored, and then quit, will you get the sensitivity? Do you notice better sensitivity when you break from pumping?

 

[Stuff_]

And honestly what's wrong with eating cows???

The same thing that's wrong with eating humans. There is no difference. I think that's put simply enough. If there's nothing wrong with eating cows, then there's nothing wrong with eating humans and treating them the exact same way.

A man named Jesus died for your sins once. Cows do it daily by the thousands. It is no different from cannibalism. But I digress... I do not wish to cover this topic at large and neither is this the place.

But yeah, I highly recommend the CAT II, I'd be wearing it more if my job didn't involve being active. It's best for wearing when you don't have a lot of physical activity to do like lifting or climbing ladders, for comfort issues mainly. It can be positioned in different ways on the skin.. either by just pushing the glans in and strapping it on or pulling the skin up and over it tightly, to get a different stretch. At night you can take the silicone cone off of it and use that to keep your glans covered. The CAT II can be worn for naps at times.. but I wouldn't reccommend wearing it to sleep. ^_^

p.s. I'm not trying to "enlighten" anyone nor do I feel anyone at all, no matter their diet, is below me in any way. We're all equal in all respects, and I'm not some hippie that thinks all "you people" are bad. I don't care for argueing... I just don't enjoy seeing blatent ignore-ance but then it could just be that it simply isn't seen. Ignorance isn't a bad thing or an "offensive" thing, it's a lack of knowledge, simple as that. We're all brothers here, and that's all that matters to me. I don't really want to take this any further.

On that note, try the CAT II you won't regret it, but get the one without the hole! I got mine before he came out with a hole-less version, and that little hole can hurt a bit and cause slight bleeding. I had to take it off for a few days before I could put it on when that happened, then I covered the hole with masking tape and put a circle of wax paper in it and now it's much better.

 

[stillwantmore]

So I'll get the hole-less version then.

 

[millionman]

Hey stuff, there's a huge difference between eating humans and eating animals. But if you feel so inclined why don't you start up a thread in the deep thoughts section and we can talk about this.

Hey Still with either one you can't go wrong. This is something to remember though. If you get to a point where you feel like you need to taper some towards the end for a tighter appearance you may need to go with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], cause it's the only one I know of that has different set-ups for that.

 

[Stuff_]

No, there is no difference between eating your mother and eating a cow, but I don't really want to get into it at the moment, maybe some other point in time, I just don't feel so inclined at the moment. People still complain about the holocaust while the animals go through one much worse every day. They feel the same pain we do, do you enjoy pain? Do unto others.. you know the saying. It doesn't only apply to humans, not only humans are alive. It is all the same.

Also another tip for the CAT II that I haven't tried yet, I read somewhere that someone put johnson & johnson medical tape, the cloth kind, around the inner cone because it has more grip than the smooth plastic does. I plan to try that soon, it sounds like it would be good.

 

[millionman]

Yet in the beginning we were commanded by GOD to rule over all that He had created for us. Adam named all the animals, planted food, and also ate the animals...the biggest difference between us and them is the fact that we have spiritual life...animals do not, as they were not created in God's likeness, not meaning physical body, but spiritual...if you still think that makes animals and humans equal my friend you are confused.... there is a tremendous difference between killing and eating a baby and killing and eating a cow...Cows are bread and raised to be slaughtered...they serve their purpose...anyway...

The bandaid works for the CAT 2 I saw that on one of the websites that reviewed the different FR methods. Cat 2 came in a close second ratings wise to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]....but they are almost the same method as far as I can tell...

 

[Stuff_]

I'll switch this over to PMs, as there seems to be some severe biblical and moral misconceptions.

 

[German Stallion]

Thanks, GS. The only thing that bothers me with pumping -- and no offense -- is my fear that it will negate the sensitivity boost that FR gives. You say you feel no difference in sensitivity being restored from pumping, and that's what scares me about it. Why go through all the trouble of restoring it if it feels no better? The sensitivity increase is one of the main draws of FR. Please give me your honest opinion. Several restorers are considering pumping and we need to figure this out. Also, if you pump just until you are restored, and then quit, will you get the sensitivity? Do you notice better sensitivity when you break from pumping?

Okay, Kong, I say I don't know the difference in sensitivity but I am sure that is not true. I have been fully restored for a couple years and I pull the skin back and right away the skin goes back over the glans. In doing jelqs I have to be careful or I will cum quickly. So, yes I am better. And, sex is awesome. I can pump up my glans doing kegeling and feel everything in intercourse where before, I don't even remember feeling my glans. It is surely better. There has been a year pass since some of my posts about this. I have moisture on the glans from the cells that have reproduced. I don't know if all this helps but it is quicker and you will have a good coverage which will help you get more sensitive. I still say, if you want to restore, pump and do it at a higher pressure. Joel Kaplan will tell you that the extra skin is a benefit or hinderance whichever you choose but is a result from pumping. Remember I did it to straighten out my peyronies curve/bend and had to do the high pressure thing, to get the straight penis back. I had a really bad bend. It worked and I have gained back the length I lost as well as gained the foreskin. After having it, the foreskin, now for a couple years, I am getting used to it. And, I can't pull it back and go without coverage, just too sensitive. So, you are right, I was wrong. GS

 

[sikdogg]

While discussing the best device for FR, i also read about the morality of eating meat, AND biblical misconceptions... all in the same thread. I just love open forums.

 

[Stuff_]

hahaha yeah..

I suppose I'm too open here. :blush: =\

 

[kong1971]

Okay, Kong, I say I don't know the difference in sensitivity but I am sure that is not true. I have been fully restored for a couple years and I pull the skin back and right away the skin goes back over the glans. In doing jelqs I have to be careful or I will cum quickly. So, yes I am better. And, sex is awesome. I can pump up my glans doing kegeling and feel everything in intercourse where before, I don't even remember feeling my glans. It is surely better. There has been a year pass since some of my posts about this. I have moisture on the glans from the cells that have reproduced. I don't know if all this helps but it is quicker and you will have a good coverage which will help you get more sensitive. I still say, if you want to restore, pump and do it at a higher pressure. Joel Kaplan will tell you that the extra skin is a benefit or hinderance whichever you choose but is a result from pumping. Remember I did it to straighten out my peyronies curve/bend and had to do the high pressure thing, to get the straight penis back. I had a really bad bend. It worked and I have gained back the length I lost as well as gained the foreskin. After having it, the foreskin, now for a couple years, I am getting used to it. And, I can't pull it back and go without coverage, just too sensitive. So, you are right, I was wrong. GS

Wow, GS! Thanks! I had had those old quotes of yours rubbed under my nose a couple times, and it was really bothering me. I know what I have been experiencing, just with what I have, and I was scared that the pumping might be bad for restorers. I'm glad you cleared that up, and I will certainly be getting a pump now when I can afford it, to speed up my foreskin gains! One other thing...was the curve natural or were you injured? Just wondering. Thanks again! You post was very encouraging. Kong.

 

[German Stallion]

Peyronies can be caused by trama of some type. IN my case I had kidney stones and the doctor was a wacko and was very rough in putting in one of those cathaters and damaged the penile shaft, causing a literal break in the penis in two locations. I had a 90 degree bend right behind the glans and a 45 degree near the base. I was desperate and used the pump to pull it straight. I pumped for several months to get it straight and with all the Penis Enlargement as well have been fairly successful. I still have an upward curve, very prominant when erect, but very functional. I did use a lot more pressure than reccommended in pumping. I would go up in pressure and as a result got what was called a doughnut and that was a fluid buildup behind the glans. This was eventually what started the skin coming over the glans. I should say that pumping should be done at low pressure, 4-5 pounds. But even at low pressure you will get a doughnut after a long period of time. Generally that fluid buildup will go down and even in any pumping you are going to get some extra skin. It just goes with the pumping. I used to complain about the smell. That has basicly gone now. But when I first stated having all this foreskin, it was a very tough problem. Maybe I didn't know how to handle it at first. Anyway, I have the foreskin, I have learned to live with it, and when pulled back, the glans flares very nice. At a full erection I can push the base of my penis and push the skin back so it does not get invovled with intercourse. Semi, I have just the tip of the glans showing and flaccid I am completely covered. If I dress with the glans showing, pull on my boxers, within a few minutes the foreskin comes down on the whole penis. Cold, I have a total turtle retreat!!! GS

 

[kong1971]

Thanks for all the info. I was wondering what pressure and time you used. So you should shoot for a little bit of a "donut effect" when pumping to get the 4skin?

 

[millionman]

Hey Kong... I want to let you know that if you do SSJs and compression supersets you will get a similar effect with the dougnut...I did last night and I walked around most of the day with all but the very tip of the head covered... Any sort fo skin expansion will work with FR... and when you do high intensity girth work of any kind the skin will expand laterally and fold over more naturally...that's what I observed today... and I noticed it again after my session today as well...so maybe you don't have to wait to afford the pump and can try this out, and then get the pump a little later on....

 

[German Stallion]

Thanks for all the info. I was wondering what pressure and time you used. So you should shoot for a little bit of a "donut effect" when pumping to get the 4skin?[/QUOTE

I didn't know any better and in my zeal went to 10 and 15 pounds, while not for long, you can't take it, it did cause the donut. And as Millionman says, and stretching of the skin will give you some quick pulling and thus you will have a head start on 4skin stuff. GS

 

[TheExecutioner]

Sounds like I might have to get a CATII then. I'll be wearing it around my place mostly anyway when I'm not hanging. Can it be worn while sleeping?

Yes. I have been sleeping with my CAT on since i bought it with absolutely no problems. If you over tighten it youll be awakend in the middle of the night when getting an erection though. The best way to avoid this is to apply it while erect.

 

[TheExecutioner]

GS - What pump do you have? I was wondering if sticking your dick in a hoover would save you going out buying a pump, what do you guys think?

 

[German Stallion]

GS - What pump do you have? I was wondering if sticking your dick in a hoover would save you going out buying a pump, what do you guys think?

No, no, don't hook up to a hoover. I will give you the take I have on this. I bought a Joel Kaplan pump and tube before I knew better. Too much money. You can go down to an auto parts store and get a good vaccuum pump for $30 bucks. Get one with a gauge. Then you need a good tube. You can get one at Newart.com. The guys there will talk to you and you can get information from them. They will tell you what size to buy. Don't get too big of one. I made that mistake and pulled my nuts into the tube on the first one I had. I got a smaller one and like it lots better. I think you need a tube you can fill and pull your penis not bloat it. Better to be too small and fill it and then pull than have to bloat it and never fill it. They at Newart will sell you the attachement all all that stuff too. That is my take on it. I will answer any questions you have. GS

 

[derringer57]

Humans have souls, animals dont, and we are top of food chain. Top of food chain dont eat each other Anyhow...

Please give me your honest opinion. Several restorers are considering pumping and we need to figure this out. Also, if you pump just until you are restored, and then quit, will you get the sensitivity? Do you notice better sensitivity when you break from pumping?

You were once cut and had less sensitivity, now you are getting foreskin back, do you have the sensitivity? I believe this corrolates. Once you stop doing all restoration of any kind and foreskin is restored in short time you will gain all the sensitivity.