Since i can't get the Max-Vac2

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As much as I would like the Max-Vac2 as it looks like its one of the best, looking fairly simple to use and etc. Even though I like it comes with the Hand pump with he pressure gauge.

I want to get some opinions on [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words]/ combo hangers


What I have come across

I know its not a hanger but it is a stretcher Static Stretcher

Autoextender
But i don't know which one, probably the VacADS to use as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and seems a redesigned VacExtender 2 is just around the corner but i don't see much difference.

VacExtender - Stealthy multi-functional Penis Enlargement device.

VacADS - Multi-functional all day penis enlargement system.

AutoADS - All Day Penis Stretcher, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device

AutoXleeve - New light force [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words]




The Grip System

http://www.thegrip.com/

I would probably go with the Economy Package

I would like something with a pump like the Max-Vac2, if anyone can recommend something with a vacuum pump like the Max-Vac2 to secure it to the head but to be able to use it as a stretcher that would be great,even though its not an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] I like the Heavy Duty StaticStretcher with the vacuum like tip but wish some how it could be used as a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS with just the tip and then have it secured around your ankle or foot.
 
Hello mate, so far reading what you have I would stay clear of autoextender.com because the quality of the final product isnt that good and plenty will assest to this.

The idea and products they have are good, such as the vacuum [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] but its poor quality you see and you'll be frustrated in the lng run.

I remember someone in the chatroom telling me about a VERY GOOD [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that usd vacuum and was fucking awesome but I forgot the name, however the members name is Goldmember so look him up and ask him what [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] it is he uses.

I've not used the Max Vac 2 or products from them but they all look solid and well built. I do want the vacuum hanger they sell oneday, but money tight at the moment.

The grip system ... I dont know about them at all so I cant comment.

I also used the MaxExtender which is fairly cheap and very easy to use and strong but the old noose style isnt what we want nowadays, but does the trick for me when I need one
 
Ouch man that sure is a noose huh? it sure looks like it could cut off the circulation and cause some problems.


it would appear I can order a Max Vac 2, i joined there forum recently and I guess my question lit a fire under someone.

They said if I want to order products, they are in the process of transitions and are revamping the internet buy capabilities. Sorry for any inconvenience. And they even gave a phone number go figure. i think first I will ask how long can i expect to wait for it to be shipped and if there are any in stock, I may have narrowed down my choice if its in stock. Seems i have read anything bad about the MV2, but i still like the Heavy Duty Static stretcher perhaps as an All Night Strecher or something who knows it def looks like a quality product.
 
Autoextender: no: low quality, poorly designed

Static Stretcher: yes

The Grip: yes

MV2: no: too much trouble with service. Some guys have waited months.
 
MoreGains123 I am actually going to try and see if i can order the MV2 as mentioned above they sent me a phone number so I will just have to wait and see if its a legit number and what happens of course I am going to ask a few questions before i order, otherwise I might go with The Grip
 
Take it very easy to begin with. Blisters develop without warning and take weeks to fully heal. They can also cause dark spots. Just because it feels OK doesn't mean it isn't blistering. Keep the weight low and the times high.
 
I think in MV2 forum i have seen various videos and whatnot, and I think one specifically to avoid bilsters, any discomfort and anything out of the ordinary I want to avoid at all costs I am sure I am not the only one that feels that way..lol.


I just ordered the HD Static Strecther so that will start me off then i will use that after hanging to hopefully cement gains like i have read about in the forums before, unless of course i am totally off.
 
Thanks for the heads up dude, I read that the HD isn't meant to be worn more than like 20 min is what i think i read, so i figure 10-15 mins with the HD then probably the medium for much longer periods or what i can stand. I was hoping to use it either overnight or for at least 4-6 hours during the day before work.

Until of course i get the MV2 which might be sooner than I think.
 
Today I got an response from a very experienced Penis Enlargement-device tester named Big Girtha(Who also praised the MV hanger).This post was taken from his "MV hanger review thread" over at T´s.

Big girtha said:
As some of you are aware I have been away from Thunder’s for a few years and have just recently returned. I was surprised to see this thread still active. Shortly after this review was posted, another of our members, MonkeyBar sent me a demo version of a new product he was working on, at that time. I forgot what he was calling it, but it worked along similar lines only without the hand pump. I think the cap and sleeve he sent me was a prototype for extra thick girth, but that hanger, for my money is/was the best device I’ve ever used. The thing that made it work so well was the extra thick, soft sleeve and the extra large end cap that was very smooth and didn’t make blisters on the glands. I think that was the biggest problem with the MaxVax was the way the glands would rub against the flat end causing blisters. That was the reason I stopped using it, and I think I’ve written about that somewhere in this thread. He may have fixed that problem by now. I’m not sure.

The only problem I remember from the other hanger was getting the sleeves onto the cap in one piece. I remember MonkeyBar had some trouble for a while with the sleeves tearing but finally came up with one that was very soft on the skin, but also very durable. I’m still using that hanger today. I’m not sure if either BTC or MB is still making these products, but if they are I would recommend the later.

A lot of people ask me why I have the commercial account. I would like to make one thing clear. I have never received any money from either of the two members mentioned in this post, although I did receive some free demos to try out, and because I like to talk about any Penis Enlargement products developed within this community, that I feel work well, I was tagged with the commercial account. Even though, I have never made a dime off any Penis Enlargement device or from endorsing anyone or anything at Thunders, some of the mods felt at that time I should have a commercial account. I was also compiling data for a Penis Enlargement book at that time so the tag may have been added to my profile because of that. However, I do not object to the Commercial Tag, just wanted to set the record straight. I do not receive any fees for my contributions to Thunder’s Place.

As far as the hangers, I still feel that a good hanger should pull from the tip, rather than grabbing the shaft from the sides. Pulling from the tip fights against the “Turtle” Grabbing the sides, (Bib Hangers) only stretches skin. Any hangers that pull from the end and do so with comfort will work best.

I believe that most Penis Enlargement devices are mere gimmicks, but those developed within this commumity have a better shot of really working, because we know more about the craft than anybody. So,if you are going to spend your hard earned money on Penis Enlargement, spend it here. Support the site.
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I know it may sound like he is favoring MB due to he is an member at T´s,but what Ive read of Big Girthas articles/reviews he is very honest and a reliable guy to trust.

And by the way, "we are sitting in the same boat" as we say in Swedish, Im also looking for an good Vacuum based [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/Hanger.

Monkeybars new VacAds will be released in the following weeks.
Ive got an email from BTC saying their business will be up running in about 2-3 weeks.

Hard to choose,I do mostly rely upon reviews made by "honest" members here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words],T´s and Pegym.

Any comments and tips on which Vacuum [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] we should choose (after reading this post)?
 
MoreGains


Really hours at a time huh I could have sworn somewhere on their site it gave a specified time to use- I think it said the HD wasnt meant for hours but the Medium and Light were ok to use for extended amounts of time...Hydromaxmph I will have to check it out again.
 
c.phantasy


With the MV2 they have videos scattered through the forum, I also think there is a video/tips etc on how to avoid blistering and how to I guess prevent slipping and how to properly wrap the head for the hanger- cant wait to get mine because I really havent seen anything of any other value and quality that has gotten better than decent reviews although I have yet to buy the MV2 but still open to suggestions from anyone so I can research.
 
thicker79;338047 said:
c.phantasy


With the MV2 they have videos scattered through the forum, I also think there is a video/tips etc on how to avoid blistering and how to I guess prevent slipping and how to properly wrap the head for the hanger- cant wait to get mine because I really havent seen anything of any other value and quality that has gotten better than decent reviews although I have yet to buy the MV2 but still open to suggestions from anyone so I can research.
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The MV hanger is a good piece of craftmanship,it can sustain a lot of more weight than many others. Check for example http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=981 .
But so could the Vacu hanger made by MB. Some members at T´s have been hanging far more than 20 Lb with it.

Anyways,we need to help each other out,if you get some info about these Vacuum based [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words]/hangers ,please post it in this thread :cool:
 
Thunders is always biased toward monkeybar because Thundersplace is a profit-oriented website with monkeybar being the main pull. However autoextender products are low quality and they don't work as advertised. As advertised on Thunders non-profit website, that is. I am totally suspicious about the resurgence of the persona "big girtha". I remember when and why he said his farewell. Now he's back? And he's still Penis Enlargement'ing? And his first posts are promoting autoextender? And dissing the Bib (which he used to say was the best)?

Now a word about what he says: "As far as the hangers, I still feel that a good hanger should pull from the tip, rather than grabbing the shaft from the sides. Pulling from the tip fights against the “Turtle” Grabbing the sides, (Bib Hangers) only stretches skin. Any hangers that pull from the end and do so with comfort will work best"

Pulling from the end is the worst: not because it isn't a good idea, but because the penis isn't constructed to handle that. The tip is not a suitable load-bearing point. You have to grab as the Bib does in order to hang decent weight without blistering or ripping the glans. The original person who wrote Big Girtha's character knew that, I guess whoever took over the Big Girtha character didn't read all of 'his' posts. Also the original Big Girtha used a Bib for all of his length gains: but in this post it is suggested the Bib only stretches skin.
 
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Thunders is always biased toward monkeybar because Thundersplace is a profit-oriented website with monkeybar being the main pull. However autoextender products are low quality and they don't work as advertised. As advertised on Thunders non-profit website, that is. I am totally suspicious about the resurgence of the persona "big girtha". I remember when and why he said his farewell. Now he's back? And he's still Penis Enlargement'ing? And his first posts are promoting autoextender? And dissing the Bib (which he used to say was the best)?

Now a word about what he says: "As far as the hangers, I still feel that a good hanger should pull from the tip, rather than grabbing the shaft from the sides. Pulling from the tip fights against the “Turtle” Grabbing the sides, (Bib Hangers) only stretches skin. Any hangers that pull from the end and do so with comfort will work best"

Pulling from the end is the worst: not because it isn't a good idea, but because the penis isn't constructed to handle that. The tip is not a suitable load-bearing point. You have to grab as the Bib does in order to hang decent weight without blistering or ripping the glans. The original person who wrote Big Girtha's character knew that, I guess whoever took over the Big Girtha character didn't read all of 'his' posts. Also the original Big Girtha used a Bib for all of his length gains: but in this post it is suggested the Bib only stretches skin.
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Interesting thought bro.
Your suggesting that someone is using Big Girthas account (due to his good reputation) to make people buy from Autoextender?
(IT WOULD BE DEVESTATING IF THIS WERE PROVED TRUE!!!)

I have a good friend("Svensken" over at T´s) who is currently using the VacExtender with good comfort and have gained 1 cm EL using it for 1 month. We talk a lot about the device,discussing its quality( I ask very ofen about the quality because I want to buy a quality device),his response has been that it is very good quality(the silicon is very high quality and therefor costs a lot). He will be sending me a sleeve soon so I can see for myself( it is not really needed because we trust each other a lot).

But anyway,the statement regarding Autoextender being "low quality stuff" needs more proof.

Im not favoring any [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at the time,just looking for the facts like TS and then base my decision upon it.

The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words]/hanger I will consider buying are:
VacAds (The update with a new head and such will be available in about 2 weeks)
Mv hanger (Soon up and running in about 2 weeks)
Phallomax (Super expensive but I will talk to them about the price)
 
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I used to buy everything autoextender put out. I know the quality is low. I also know that no person has gained a true 1/2" in 1 month using that (or any) device. Sorry to be so short but I'm in a hurry and I've finally just had it with the behavior at Thunders. Once you realize it's a sham it's hard to believe all the promotional posts. As far as big girtha: I got some suspicions about fake posters and autoextender when every time he comes out with something guys who have been members for like 5 years and have like 12 posts suddenly come out of the woodwork to talk it up. I never thought BG was a shill but I am now suspicious given the timing. Perhaps I'm paranoid but when you know someone is bullshitting you it's hard to believe anything they say.

To clarify: I think there are many good members at Thunders who do positive things and are sincere. I just know that Thunders isn't the public service forum they push themselves as. Every other forum is marketing something and that's okay: they say so and make no secret about it. Thunders however lies about it. Ever notice how all the moderators recommend autoextender?
 
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I used to buy everything autoextender put out. I know the quality is low. I also know that no person has gained a true 1/2" in 1 month using that (or any) device. Sorry to be so short but I'm in a hurry and I've finally just had it with the behavior at Thunders. Once you realize it's a sham it's hard to believe all the promotional posts. As far as big girtha: I got some suspicions about fake posters and autoextender when every time he comes out with something guys who have been members for like 5 years and have like 12 posts suddenly come out of the woodwork to talk it up. I never thought BG was a shill but I am now suspicious given the timing. Perhaps I'm paranoid but when you know someone is bullshitting you it's hard to believe anything they say.

To clarify: I think there are many good members at Thunders who do positive things and are sincere. I just know that Thunders isn't the public service forum they push themselves as. Every other forum is marketing something and that's okay: they say so and make no secret about it. Thunders however lies about it. Ever notice how all the moderators recommend autoextender?
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I feel you bro;)

My friend Svensk gained 0.4 inches in 1 month using the VacExtender(or 1 cm as we use that metric system in sweden).
He used it after school and sometimes after excercising after school. His testamonial is true,no doubt about it. I asked Svensk about the quality and if anything was broken or bruised from 1 months wearing. He has stated that it is very good quality,No bruises or broken areas.And as I mentioned before he will mail me an sleeve to check for myself. (I will post my comments about it here)

Im also getting more interested in your theory regarding "fake members". It sounds logical if you think about it,but as you mentioned it could just be paranoia.
I do not really know,I will pray to the Penis Enlargement oracles that this is not true :D
I also agree with you on the point regarding Different sites push different Penis Enlargement Equipment. T´s is a "free penis enlargement" forum,it has no offical device to push,but I consider it to be the Home of Autoextender until their own forum gets online.

The thing about Big girthas review is that it was put in the "Max Vac Hanger review thread",a thread where he truely endorsed the product to begin with.

Here is a quote of his first post:
"As a rule, I never recommend devices that are designed outside this community. I have two very good reasons for this. One, I honestly feel we know more about Penis Enlargement than anyone in the private sector, and two: the feedback our designers get from us makes their products improve over a period of time. We discuss the gadgets on the threads, we say what we like and what we don’t like and make suggestions. When you have 50,000 members tweaking your Penis Enlargement device it can’t help but get better.

A while back I received a PM from one of our mods telling me I would be asked by someone outside this forum to test and review this new hanger. I was also advised that our moderators were okay with this, as long as I gave an honest review. At first I was skeptical, but finally decided to do it because the concept sounded interesting to me, and also because the designer was an Ex-member here, so I figure he has at least benefited from our wisdom to some degree. I don’t know why he is an EX member and I don’t care. I’m not here to review the man only his device because it is based on a principal I agree with completely.

In fact this vacuum hanger idea is nothing new; it has been discussed here and on other forums for years. I have always felt that pulling from the tip of the glands gives a much better stretch of the internal structures than hangers that grip only the sides of the shaft. One only has to grip the tip of the penis and pull out to see what I mean. When you grip from the tip of the glands with your fingers and pull you feel the pull is more directed to the tunica and ligs. I hate to use the (Shilow) telescoping antenna analogy, but that describes it well. It is like your penis un-retracts, or un-turtles, if you will. When you grip the sides what you mostly feel is skin pull. In the past gripping the sides with enough force to stretch the internal structures has always put a great deal of pressure on the shaft. My urologist has argued that the force required by the Bib hanger to hold excessive weights can cause injury to the urethra and/or cavernosum. After actually examining my Bib hanger she was sure it is what caused an injury I incurred a while back. I wrote a thread about this, I don’t recall the title.

Even pumping with weighted cylinders you are still pulling mostly skin. I’ve tried slipping baseball weights onto a two inch cylinder and putting lead weights inside a penis scrotum cylinder for use as suction hangers. But doing this the attachment point is the pubic fat pad, also some scrotal skin gets stretched but there is very little if any internal tug. The problem has always been that until now there has never been an effective way to grip the tip with enough force to hang any real weight. There have been ADSs like the TLG [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] and some companies such as MaleBridge and or TrackMan that have capitalized on the aspect of suction for attaching a hanger, although the cost of these devices are exceptionally high.

I recall a while back we were talking about using the Kaplan Head Enlarger as a kind of suction hanger that would attach to the upper shaft. I have discussed similar ideas with members like sparkyx and mgus. The SuckExtender idea was along this very concept. We’ve tried gravel cleaners with inner tubes. There was sparky with his inner tube and condom pumping, and monkeybar with his new silicon sleeve. We’ve all talked about it, but finally someone has actually developed and produced a hanger that attaches to the upper shaft and glands with enough effectiveness to hold medium to heavy weights comfortably for long periods of time. I was interested in this product because I myself am in the market for a new and better hanger. I have been working with MB and Monty on several ideas, but for now this device seems to me to be the best hanger available for medium to heavy weights. I think it beats the Bib hands down for weights up to twenty pounds. It attaches to the glands and upper shaft so all the stretch is directed to the inner structures rather than just skin. The cylinder attaches very easily and quickly without wrapping and is very comfortable with weights under 20 pounds for long periods of time.

PROBLEMS WITH THE DEVICE:

There is a bit of a learning curve with the hanger like with any new Penis Enlargement Device, but nothing near as difficult as the wrapping and toe in toe out adjustments on the Bib.

I get a little bit of a doughnut if I do more than three twenty minute sets at twenty pounds.

I also had a problem with the attachment hose coming off, which I’m told is a safety quick-release-feature. That is if you have to get out of the hanger quick, you just pull the hose off the nipple and it releases the pressure and the hanger falls off. I didn’t like this because I kept knocking it off with the hand pump. I squirted a little dab of silicon calking to the nipple permanently attaching the hose. Now it does not fall off. In fact, the hanger is a little difficult to get off like this, but I prefer it this way. There may be some better way to keep the hose on, perhaps a nylon cable tie, or a smaller hose.

But this is my honest review. Overall, I give the hanger a hearty thumbs up as it is, and I’m sure it will improve with our feedback. I was told I could attach a link to the site to this thread. There is also a very good tutorial video there on using the device showing the user actually lifting and dropping a fifteen pound weight from about waste height. (Not recommended)

The link is:
www.mynewsize.com

I was provided with a hanger at no cost to my self for the test and evaluation, otherwise I am in no way affiliated with this product, nor am I receiving any proceeds for sales or this review."
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As you have experience with the older products of Autoextender,is it possible that Monkeybar has developed more quality into his products over the years?

You have a lot of knowledge to share in this thread, which device do you personally prefere and why?
 
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