Seems Like The Forum Over At Thund3rs Pl@ce Is Just As Bad As Mens-network!

[CALIs_FINEST]

Thank God For [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Mos[/words].

I Dont Understand Why You Cant Speak Your Mind Over At The Other Forums. As Soon As You Say Something That Any Of The Mods Dont Agree With, Or You Question Anything, They Delete Your Posts And Ban You From The Forum.

 

[ctmwm]

Thats why DLD started [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Freedom from all the back stabbing Mods & Members at other forums. DLD believes in one thing just as much or more than Penis Enlargement. Freedom of speech. Even when it dosent reflect his or his Mods views.

He is one stand up guy that you can believe in!

 

[jakb]

Thats why DLD started [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Freedom from all the back stabbing Mods & Members at other forums. DLD believes in one thing just as much or more than Penis Enlargement. Freedom of speech. Even when it dosent reflect his or his Mods views.

He is one stand up guy that you can believe in!

That is one of the reasons I find this to be one of my favorite hang outs. Never really visited thunders, but was not at all impressed with Mens network for fear of speaking out of line and being banned.

Definitely have to credit DLD and the mods for keeping this place without constrictions. Good job guys!!!

 

[stillwantmore]

Yep, I used to be one of their original moderators over there...and due to the above mentioned stuff going on, I was banned. Bunch of B.S. and such going on there. Theyre more run by "clicks" and estrogen over there.

 

[Shithead]

Thank God For [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Mos[/words].

I Dont Understand Why You Cant Speak Your Mind Over At The Other Forums. As Soon As You Say Something That Any Of The Mods Dont Agree With, Or You Question Anything, They Delete Your Posts And Ban You From The Forum.

out of curiosity, what did you say?

 

[DLD]

When we started [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] many people thought it would fail due to having anarchic structure but that was a misconception a confusion of sorts. People were confusing freedom of speech and expression with lack of structure and anarchy. My rules for this forum are meant to protect the integrity and personal beliefs of each user without discrimination. If given the opportunity most people will respect one another.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I dont think we should all get involved in another debate over pe forums.
It only turns sour with a TON of BITCHING.

 

[Mercury]

The reason I prefer this site to the "other" one,..is because it feels like on here there is more openess to new ideas.

I've seen, and taken part in a few threads over there where someone has come up with an idea, or made a suggestion, only to be poo poo'd and dismissed by a long term member (or a mod in one case I read).
For example someone will raise a question and make suggestions,....someone will come along and say.."No, that isn't possible, forget it,..some doctor said it's impossible".

On this site though, someone will raise a question, suggest something,..and people will come along and say,.."Really?...Tell me more, I'm interested"

That's what I like....more openess to ideas.
If you just slam an idea down straight away and nip it in the bud,...then things can't progress, and nobody learns anything new.

Of course new ideas and suggestions need to be looked into, but at least on here there is a flexibility and openess to go ahead and do that.
If something amounts to nothing, fair enough, at least something was given a chance.

I followed one thread over there, where a poster started a thread which became very popular. It was to do with edging and a supplement regime. Very interesting stuff. But some mod on there seemed to be a bit of a killjoy and just appeared to be awkward for the sake of it.
It seemed like that to me, but I may be wrong. But the mod actually said to the poster who was writing some very interesting material..."What do you want?"
It just came across to me that maybe some degree of jealousy was going on there, where an average member was onto something, and better known established posters didn't really want some new guy getting good attention.
Like someone was getting ideas above their station or something.

I don't know, I don't want to tread on anyone's toes, my perception may have been wrong.
But I do think that on here there is more of an openess to newer ideas. Rather than something being dismissed as impossible, here there appears to be more of a tendency to find out why something is not possible before dismissing an idea.
Science is something that is always correcting itself, and older scientific conclusions have been found out to not entirely tell the whole story.

I love reading threads on here.
The thread about new plants and herbs, and the thread about Lucid Dreaming were very interesting reads.

 

[Mercury]

I hope my above post wasn't disrespectful.
My perspective may be completly wrong.

I still like the other site,...I was just saying why this one appeals to me more.
Just reasons why my preferences favour this site a bit more.

 

[DLD]

I hope my above post wasn't disrespectful.
My perspective may be completly wrong.

I still like the other site,...I was just saying why this one appeals to me more.
Just reasons why my preferences favour this site a bit more.

I loved your post

 

[ctmwm]

I loved your post

DITTO! rofl

 

[pupper]

When we started [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] many people thought it would fail due to having anarchic structure but that was a misconception a confusion of sorts. People were confusing freedom of speech and expression with lack of structure and anarchy. My rules for this forum are meant to protect the integrity and personal beliefs of each user without discrimination. If given the opportunity most people will respect one another.

Amen,I haven't had the opportunity peruse the forums as I used to(Been really busy with my business),but I still pop in from time to time,and I consider [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] home.I was once chastized and accused of spamming for helping someone with obtaining viagra on an unamed other site.I politely pm'ed the mod who chastised me and told him I was merely trying to help someone out,I don't make money off the stuff hell I'm always looking for good cheap sources of viagra,I knew of one and was blasted for telling someone in a post,I Have never returned there since.

 

[REDZULU2003]

The reason I prefer this site to the "other" one,..is because it feels like on here there is more openess to new ideas.

I've seen, and taken part in a few threads over there where someone has come up with an idea, or made a suggestion, only to be poo poo'd and dismissed by a long term member (or a mod in one case I read).
For example someone will raise a question and make suggestions,....someone will come along and say.."No, that isn't possible, forget it,..some doctor said it's impossible".

On this site though, someone will raise a question, suggest something,..and people will come along and say,.."Really?...Tell me more, I'm interested"

That's what I like....more openess to ideas.
If you just slam an idea down straight away and nip it in the bud,...then things can't progress, and nobody learns anything new.

Of course new ideas and suggestions need to be looked into, but at least on here there is a flexibility and openess to go ahead and do that.
If something amounts to nothing, fair enough, at least something was given a chance.

I followed one thread over there, where a poster started a thread which became very popular. It was to do with edging and a supplement regime. Very interesting stuff. But some mod on there seemed to be a bit of a killjoy and just appeared to be awkward for the sake of it.
It seemed like that to me, but I may be wrong. But the mod actually said to the poster who was writing some very interesting material..."What do you want?"
It just came across to me that maybe some degree of jealousy was going on there, where an average member was onto something, and better known established posters didn't really want some new guy getting good attention.
Like someone was getting ideas above their station or something.

I don't know, I don't want to tread on anyone's toes, my perception may have been wrong.
But I do think that on here there is more of an openess to newer ideas. Rather than something being dismissed as impossible, here there appears to be more of a tendency to find out why something is not possible before dismissing an idea.
Science is something that is always correcting itself, and older scientific conclusions have been found out to not entirely tell the whole story.

I love reading threads on here.
The thread about new plants and herbs, and the thread about Lucid Dreaming were very interesting reads.

Exellent mature post, I agree.
I just worry about the children who shoot their mouths off and cause the forums here to look stupid.

 

[stillwantmore]

It's also nice to be able to post just about however I like to...within reason of course...without having some goofball chime in with "Stillwantmore, read the forum guidelines please". Because I forgot to put a period at the end of every sentence, or mispelled something.

 

[longTom]

It's also nice to be able to post just about however I like to...within reason of course...without having some goofball chime in with "Stillwantmore, read the forum guidelines please". Because I forgot to put a period at the end of every sentence, or mispelled something.

This is why I NEVER bothered posting anything overthereasIsomtimesforgetpuntionand/ortoputspaces betweenwords :s

 

[jakb]

This is why I NEVER bothered posting anything overthereasIsomtimesforgetpuntionand/ortoputspaces betweenwords :s

lol

I didnt know they did that over there. Kind of tedious, but to each their own.

 

[stillwantmore]

Yea, you'd think THunder was trying to write a book or some shit.

 

[DLD]

Yea, you'd think THunder was trying to write a book or some shit.

Maybe he is ?

 

[REDZULU2003]

So sad, people who are wanting others to spell so proper.
Its not needed, I have ALWAYS stood by the idea that ones text here can help us all imagine the person's mood, origins, background...even accent. I myself have come under heavy ciritism for my spelling and grammer....but I dont give a shit because I CAN SPenis EnlargementLL when I must, and I dont think I have to be all 'proper' like that here. In my job than YEAH SURE I spell 110% correct, but here is not work and no pressure. So long people can read what you write, than I see NO ISSUE and any sites so uptight about spelling NEED to really get a life. If we all did the spelling checker thing than whats the fun? no humour in the spelling, no culture in our words....just bullshit.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is king for allowing members to KEEP THEIR OWN IDENTITY, and not make them be like robots so we all type the fuckin same.

 

[DLD]

So sad, people who are wanting others to spell so proper.
Its not needed, I have ALWAYS stood by the idea that ones text here can help us all imagine the person's mood, origins, background...even accent. I myself have come under heavy ciritism for my spelling and grammer....but I dont give a shit because I CAN SPenis EnlargementLL when I must, and I dont think I have to be all 'proper' like that here. In my job than YEAH SURE I spell 110% correct, but here is not work and no pressure. So long people can read what you write, than I see NO ISSUE and any sites so uptight about spelling NEED to really get a life. If we all did the spelling checker thing than whats the fun? no humour in the spelling, no culture in our words....just bullshit.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is king for allowing members to KEEP THEIR OWN IDENTITY, and not make them be like robots so we all type the fuckin same.

Red please read our FORUM GUIDELINES

 

[DLD]

The reason Thund3rs Pl@ce gets on my nerves is because of post like THIS ONE whenever one of my exercises comes up the KGB is quick to try to discredit it. I look through the suggested exercises they have and most are my exercises renamed. SADSAK SLINKYS = DLD BENDS, Erect Bends, A-Stretch, etc. The sad thing is many guys will never learn some very important Penis Enlargement exercises because of their gag mentality and anti-DLD regime. Here is a typical response to a DLD Exercise, can someone say JEALOUSY?

 

[bigbutnottoo]

When we started [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] many people thought it would fail due to having anarchic structure but that was a misconception a confusion of sorts. People were confusing freedom of speech and expression with lack of structure and anarchy. My rules for this forum are meant to protect the integrity and personal beliefs of each user without discrimination. If given the opportunity most people will respect one another.

Now I know why I like this place so much. From that statement alone I can tell we are on the same page philosophically.

 

[CALIs_FINEST]

im not sure why exactly my posts were deleted and i was banned, but here is what happened with me:

There was a newbie asking about different Penis Enlargement programs, and which program people thought was best, and why. I explained to him that i have read about every major Penis Enlargement program out there and have visited all the major forums also. I explained to him the phaze program [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has, and also about the best forum and support in the industry!

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NOW SOME INSIGHT FROM MY OWN RESEARCH------------------------------


Most of the forums are run by a so called Penis Enlargement guru(or fake guru, who just steals and slightly modifies another program into his own) who actualy has his own Penis Enlargement pay site. There are also Penis Enlargement pay sites out there that do not have a forum of there own.

2 of the most popular older forums are -peforum.net(run by Jafro, who owns forsize.com)- and -Thund3rs Pl@ce.com-. DLD was actualy a member of these forums and probably still is, but im sure he no longer contributes in them since he has his own thing going here. You can actualy find many threads from DLD in both of those, that date as far back as the opening of those forums(im sure many of his threads have been deleted due to the jealousy of his success). There has even been an instance in this forum where a mod that goes by the name of 'Gandolph' was deleting many threads due to his jealousy towards DLD and his overwelming growing respect in the Penis Enlargement community. Luckily DLD caught him in the process before even more threads were lost. Gandolph is now banned, and continues to be a mod over in those.

Some things you will obviously notice when comparing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forum to the others is:
- other forums look very old and out dated
- mods in other forums are closed minded, have a "power complex" and often critisize, overly regulate a persons very own method of writing(which inhibits a persons personality being shown), degrade and dismiss proposed ideas, and often push their very own supplements on newbies(to the point a newbie does not thing growth is possible without them, which is totaly false). I have been banned from the mens-network.com forum for just just mentioning that supplements are not needed, and all they do is increase blood flow.
- many of these other Penis Enlargement sites and their corresponding forums take advantage of newbies
- these other forums do not have many active Penis Enlargement'rs when compared to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. and many of the forum members are scared to speak out.


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Here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]:

- the forum has an amazing up to date look to it
- the structure is very organized
- the mods are helpfull and encouraging
- new techniques are incouraged as Penis Enlargement is a ongoing exploration which can always be advanced, new findings happen, and more will be out there
- freedom of ones own writing style is allowed
- DLD and the MODS due not have a power complex, they part of this community WITH US
- the pay site is also very organized and has a great 5 part phaze system with multiple videos for each exercise.
- when you join [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] you feel you are part of something good, and as weird as it sounds, its kind of like a family feel, where encouragment is and help is always at




thanks DLD!

 

[Hopingbig]

I like both forums really, although I never post at Thunders I only read there so noone has told me to read the forum guidelines which they inevitably would

 

[DLD]

Thunders has a huge data base of information and it is indeed a powerful source of Penis Enlargement my biggest problem with their forum is the way they gag, manipulate and change information to fit their agenda. I frequent all of the Penis Enlargement forums as there is a great amount of information to learn from. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] may seem radical and uncouth to spectators but most soon see the method to it's madness. Freedom is sometimes difficult to control but for me there is no other way.

 

[dGawd]

When i read that post your referring to DLD, i thought the exact same thing, why do they discredit his exercises? Now, several times before i read threads where DLD exercises were often referred to as COPYs of their exercises and i used to believe that until the moment i joined [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] (damn mindtricks on n00bs).
Also, its a shame that thunders isnt open to new exercises, for example like the constricters one, is working wonders for me and if it hasnt been for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] i would ve never heard of it.
When Thunders says read the forum guidelines he is doing that for us, the nonenglishspeaking members that may have some difficulties understanding what u write if u dont do it in a clear way (not my case, can read everything ? )

 

[REDZULU2003]

spelling mistake by the thunder mod Piet.
The attachment you just shown dld lol see the fourth line from the top going down.
''......tougher must faster....'' he means ''tougher much faster''.
Not like care about spelling, when myn around here isnt great but on a site where REGULATIONS are drilled home like a sad bootcamp about spelling and I see a dick mod mispelling something lol I see DOUBLE STANDARDS. Also I agree with dld, I THNK Thunders has GREAT information, well did I cant comment now because I never visit....but alot of great reads I found their years back. Its that the guys in power manipulate and twist minds alongwith picking at anything out the ordinary and different, even succesful.

 

[AcesHigh]

Thunders is too proper and shit. It really pisses me off over there and I get just as much info if not 3 times as much here.

 

[DLD]

When i read that post your referring to DLD, i thought the exact same thing, why do they discredit his exercises? Now, several times before i read threads where DLD exercises were often referred to as COPYs of their exercises and i used to believe that until the moment i joined [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] (damn mindtricks on n00bs).

Thund3rs Pl@ce staff and the very few veterans they have left are bitter because of the immense success [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] has realized in such a short time. In about a year [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] has become the largest Penis Enlargement forum in existence and this is tough medicine for them to swallow since they thought this forum would fail. When a business is desperate and failing their only chance for survival, in the dog eat dog world of the net, is by trying to discredit the leader. But when I hear one of their sad attempts at trying to discredit me or my forum I compare it to 50¢ getting dissed by MC Hammer, laughable. Eventually the real Penis Enlargement folks make it over here and learn the truth and realize that incredible gains are a reality.

 

[Mercury]

The reason Thund3rs Pl@ce gets on my nerves is because of post like THIS ONE whenever one of my exercises comes up the KGB is quick to try to discredit it. I look through the suggested exercises they have and most are my exercises renamed. SADSAK SLINKYS = DLD BENDS, Erect Bends, A-Stretch, etc. The sad thing is many guys will never learn some very important Penis Enlargement exercises because of their gag mentality and anti-DLD regime. Here is a typical response to a DLD Exercise, can someone say JEALOUSY?

You illustrate the point really well.

It seems okay for that guy to hype up his own advice doesn't it?

On Penis Enlargement forums, the only way I can see an exercise being hyped, is by many people posting to say "Yes,...this exercise works".
That's how exercises tend to get popular in threads....that's the hype.

In other words, if an exercise gets a lot of hype (posters saying good things about it)...then it's very likely that the exercise simply works.
If I said that I jelqed while lying in a bath of custard, and nobody posted replies to say it was an effective exercise for them too,...then I simply don't get "hype".

I can't see the problem really. And I have to say that I agree with you, it looks like simple jealousy by someone who sees someone else getting a lot of attention...and they don't like it.

It's so easy for doubters to demand that you link them to some scientific proof, or scientific evidence, in order to undermine someone who has posted a popular exercise.
But the bottom line is that you'd be asked to do something that simply isn't possible. What proven scientific research would exist online for an exercise that someone on a Penis Enlargement forum has created. It just doesn't exist.
If it works...it works.

If an exercise works, then you can go ahead and find out the scientific reasons why it works afterwards. Then we can learn the science.

How many Penis Enlargement exercises actually exist which have been proven to be 100% supported by the scientific community?
Hardly any, because we are having to work this stuff out for ourselves.
If there was a widely acclaimed technique that was scientifically proven, the media would be going nuts about it, and everyone would have a 9 inch penis.

We can use theories and ideas gained from what we do know about general science beforehand to go ahead and try something out. But if the hunch was successful and the exercise idea worked, then anyone who tries to shoot you down has to eat humble pie and accept it...the exercise worked...no scientific backup needed. You can investigate the science afterwards to spawn new ideas.
The guy who moaned at you's time might be better served looking into the science of why popular exercises happen to work.
If he's hoping to find some scientific journal as to support the effectiveness of a specific exercise such as "DLD Blasters". "Supra Slammers" he's going to be looking for a hell of a long time.

Maybe someone should have thrown his own logic back in his face by asking him to link him to the online scientific studies that support the effectiveness of his radical new exercise of "giving your dick a little tug now and then"

If people didn't try ideas and theories out.....there would be no science in the first place.

 

[Mercury]

Actually I made a mistake in the post above. Although you do get a lot of people demanding scientific proof,...I mistakenly lumped the poster mentioned above in DLD's post into the same camp of nitpickers who make demands for you to link them to online scientific evidence that is very unlikely to exist.

So please ignore that paragraph just before the end of my post. Maybe a mod might edit it out for me.
I'm so embarrassed,..I've ran out of time to edit it. :blush:
I guess it's my own fault because I was drifting towards ranting a bit, and was seriously going on about something slightly different from that quoted post. rofl

 

[Mercury]

What I do like about Thunder's though are the forums dedicated more to supplements and whatnot. I think they are excellent, with a lot of people contributing.

I do think that there is a bit of an obsession with "LOT" though. It's a useful thing to know, but I can't help feeling that some people are focusing on that a bit too much. It's not as though knowing your LOT is the holy grail of Penis Enlargement or anything.

 

[DLD]

I can't see the problem really. And I have to say that I agree with you, it looks like simple jealousy by someone who sees someone else getting a lot of attention...and they don't like it.

Very true!

I usually do not get involved with any of the hypocrisy and rhetoric that gets spewed about Thund3rs Pl@ce as I only visit the forum to watch old friends and their progress.

I do have a few things I would like to point out that I find amusing after reading your post. One of the star posters at Thund3rs Pl@ce under the name of WADZILLA is a huge anti-DLD guy. 90% of everything that I have read by the guy since he has been there is directed at trying to discredit me. I find him extremely amusing because his posts at Thunders directly contradict his posts here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]. For instance here is a post by WADZILLA from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] archives. Notice how most of the exercises he is praising in this post are DLD Exercises. Now he posts at Thunders that my exercises do not work and that I am full of shit. Here is his post, unedited, it is his collection of the TOP 10 Best Stretching Exercises in Penis Enlargement:

(1) Bundled Stretches (at 12:00, 10:00 & 9:00 – alt. the direction of the twist)
(2) Tunica Fulcrum Stretches (with fulcrum atop base, then midshaft)
(3) DLD Blasters (with 100-kegel warmup, followed by 30-second kegel to begin)
(4) “A Stretch” (12:00, 9:00 & BTL)
(5) 2-Handed S.O. Pulls (max force – 9:00, 8-8:30)
(6) Standard BTL Stretches
(7) Rotary Cranks
(8) Erect Pulls (careful!)
(9) Erect Twists (even more careful!)
(10) Erect Twist & Pulls (need I caution you further?)
(11) Bundled Tunica Fulcrum Stretches (with fulcrum atop base, then midshaft)
(12) Opposing Pulls (grip near head, then grip firmly near base – pulling hands apart)
(13) Bundled Rotary Cranks (done with caution)
(14) Desktop Reverses (grip near head, with both hands, then lean down – carefully – bracing yourself against something stationary [i.e., “desktop”], then carefully back away, like you’re car is in Reverse)
(15) Lazy-Assed Stretches

This is typical of the type of contradictory things going on there. This same user tried to discredit my pictures as being fake by taking pictures from my forum here, editing them to fit his agenda, and then posting them.

When I first joined Thund3rs Pl@ce years ago I was the first person to advocate Erect Penis Enlargement. I was completely land blasted for this being told it was wrong, did not work, dangerous and I was sharply encouraged not to discuss these type of exercises. Today, erect exercise plays a huge role in most of the people who frequent their forum. As a matter of fact half of the moderator team from their forum were prior one on one students of mine where I would write their routines, speak with them on the phone, PM's, email and AIM, and help them on a daily basis to make gains. Of course this will all be denied.

Many of the nay-sayers from that forum are people who have made shitty to no gains and hate me for the massive gains I have made. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is on a different line of thought. 1/2" will not do, we aim for huge gains and we indeed make them. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] paysite has a 100% success rate meaning everyone who has ever joined has made gains. I offer a 200% money back guaranty for one reason, my program works. They try to make me out to be a crook of sorts but the facts are everything on the pay site is available on the free forums at no charge.

The most comical part of this whole situation is I have been out of that forum for over 15 months and I am still the most popular topic there?!?! How much damage can a man do with his penis? I never respond to their claims of my gains not being real or my pictures/video being fake but for the record I will here. I have gained over 4" in length and 2" in girth, I have never fakes a photo or video, I started Penis Enlargement at 6.5 x 4.75 today I am more than 10" in non bone pressed length and over 6.7" of girth. Believe it or not, it is very real but then again those who don't believe are probably the ones who don't gain. Food for thought.

Lastly I would like to mention Thunder himself. When I was over there I was a moderator. When I thought about opening a pay site I went to Thunder to tell him. We discussed my site and he gave me a ton of advice on different things. He seemed to genuinely support me. (I still have the PM's we shared back and forth on the topic) As the release date of my site grew closer and closer the hype was HUGE. This was around the time that Thunder decided to un-mod me. I was confused about his actions but I went on frequenting his forum doing what I love to do, talk about Penis Enlargement. When [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] was finally launched it was a MASSIVE SUCCESS, bigger than I ever imagined. This, obviously, was too much for him. After underhanded attempts by him and his staff to ravage my reputation I left the forum and launched [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] Forums. I think they truly believed I would fail, fall flat on my face...this was not the case. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] not only rivaled their forum but quickly surpassed it. Today [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is the most popular name in Penis Enlargement and this year I only see growth of more than 300%. Bitter is an understatement to describe the taste left in my adversaries mouths. This is why, even today, their main focus is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] based attacks. As they spend their time trying to debunk the very essence of natural Penis Enlargement we continue to grow and make landmark victories in personal penis enlargement.

Keep growing guys!

 

[stillwantmore]

Very true!

I usually do not get involved with any of the hypocrisy and rhetoric that gets spewed about Thund3rs Pl@ce as I only visit the forum to watch old friends and their progress.

I do have a few things I would like to point out that I find amusing after reading your post. One of the star posters at Thund3rs Pl@ce under the name of WADZILLA is a huge anti-DLD guy. 90% of everything that I have read by the guy since he has been there is directed at trying to discredit me. I find him extremely amusing because his posts at Thunders directly contradict his posts here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]. For instance here is a post by WADZILLA from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] archives. Notice how most of the exercises he is praising in this post are DLD Exercises. Now he posts at Thunders that my exercises do not work and that I am full of shit. Here is his post, unedited, it is his collection of the TOP 10 Best Stretching Exercises in Penis Enlargement:

(1) Bundled Stretches (at 12:00, 10:00 & 9:00 – alt. the direction of the twist)
(2) Tunica Fulcrum Stretches (with fulcrum atop base, then midshaft)
(3) DLD Blasters (with 100-kegel warmup, followed by 30-second kegel to begin)
(4) “A Stretch” (12:00, 9:00 & BTL)
(5) 2-Handed S.O. Pulls (max force – 9:00, 8-8:30)
(6) Standard BTL Stretches
(7) Rotary Cranks
(8) Erect Pulls (careful!)
(9) Erect Twists (even more careful!)
(10) Erect Twist & Pulls (need I caution you further?)
(11) Bundled Tunica Fulcrum Stretches (with fulcrum atop base, then midshaft)
(12) Opposing Pulls (grip near head, then grip firmly near base – pulling hands apart)
(13) Bundled Rotary Cranks (done with caution)
(14) Desktop Reverses (grip near head, with both hands, then lean down – carefully – bracing yourself against something stationary [i.e., “desktop”], then carefully back away, like you’re car is in Reverse)
(15) Lazy-Assed Stretches

This is typical of the type of contradictory things going on there. This same user tried to discredit my pictures as being fake by taking pictures from my forum here, editing them to fit his agenda, and then posting them.

When I first joined Thund3rs Pl@ce years ago I was the first person to advocate Erect Penis Enlargement. I was completely land blasted for this being told it was wrong, did not work, dangerous and I was sharply encouraged not to discuss these type of exercises. Today, erect exercise plays a huge role in most of the people who frequent their forum. As a matter of fact half of the moderator team from their forum were prior one on one students of mine where I would write their routines, speak with them on the phone, PM's, email and AIM, and help them on a daily basis to make gains. Of course this will all be denied.

Many of the nay-sayers from that forum are people who have made shitty to no gains and hate me for the massive gains I have made. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is on a different line of thought. 1/2" will not do, we aim for huge gains and we indeed make them. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] paysite has a 100% success rate meaning everyone who has ever joined has made gains. I offer a 200% money back guaranty for one reason, my program works. They try to make me out to be a crook of sorts but the facts are everything on the pay site is available on the free forums at no charge.

The most comical part of this whole situation is I have been out of that forum for over 15 months and I am still the most popular topic there?!?! How much damage can a man do with his penis? I never respond to their claims of my gains not being real or my pictures/video being fake but for the record I will here. I have gained over 4" in length and 2" in girth, I have never fakes a photo or video, I started Penis Enlargement at 6.5 x 4.75 today I am more than 10" in non bone pressed length and over 6.7" of girth. Believe it or not, it is very real but then again those who don't believe are probably the ones who don't gain. Food for thought.

Lastly I would like to mention Thunder himself. When I was over there I was a moderator. When I thought about opening a pay site I went to Thunder to tell him. We discussed my site and he gave me a ton of advice on different things. He seemed to genuinely support me. (I still have the PM's we shared back and forth on the topic) As the release date of my site grew closer and closer the hype was HUGE. This was around the time that Thunder decided to un-mod me. I was confused about his actions but I went on frequenting his forum doing what I love to do, talk about Penis Enlargement. When [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] was finally launched it was a MASSIVE SUCCESS, bigger than I ever imagined. This, obviously, was too much for him. After underhanded attempts by him and his staff to ravage my reputation I left the forum and launched [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] Forums. I think they truly believed I would fail, fall flat on my face...this was not the case. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] not only rivaled their forum but quickly surpassed it. Today [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is the most popular name in Penis Enlargement and this year I only see growth of more than 300%. Bitter is an understatement to describe the taste left in my adversaries mouths. This is why, even today, their main focus is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] based attacks. As they spend their time trying to debunk the very essence of natural Penis Enlargement we continue to grow and make landmark victories in personal penis enlargement.

Keep growing guys!

I've seen this Wadzilla/Waxin guy post little anything of real value since he first started coming around. Whether it's licking Thunders' balls, discrediting DLD, or whining about how his wife left him for personal sympathy...he's done little but be a troll. Here lately he's trying to boost his own ego coming up with a couple theories that dont seem to have much credibility.

Most of the qualm over [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and DLD over on thunders is due to envy of our success here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. They never expected us to become so huge.

 

[bigbutnottoo]

Well,
Ive been around these Penis Enlargement Forums for a long time, mostly as a lurker and reader more than Penis Enlargement-er until I came here.

I know the things DLD has done for the Penis Enlargement community and the exercises he has invented and modified. Of course some exercises existed previously but considering we only have 2 arms and 1 dick, there are only so many possible grips and exercises we can get into. Well I have seen DLD put his own twist on previously worthless exercises and by changing a grip or erection% or fulcrum point,etc made it into a great technique. Not only that but completely invent new exercises that were met with skepticism, before being embraced and finally stolen from him.

This is the general process for innovative people.

1. They invent something-People disagree, argue, sometimes even laugh
2. The people discover its value and completely embrace it
3. Same people who doubted now want to take credit for it.
4. Now they claim ownership and claim the real inventor stole it from them.

Just as the man who discovered fire was probably burned at the stake, this is the way the world works a lot.

And I know all this because I was there. I remember DLD from Peforums, Thunders,etc as being the most active and helpful member. i remember him inventing exercises that no one else claimed to invent until 2 years later. I remember him taking 2 or 3 exercises, combining them, then adding a crucial element(s) responsible for almost all the gains of said maneuver. No one protested then. After initial doubts, people were lined up practically begging for help in PMs, private consults,etc. Then the same people would talk in the forums crediting all their newfound gains to DLDs help. So dont believe them now after they got frustrated with their own efforts and needed some one to blame. I was there during all this shit. I know some others here were as well. I am still a member there, sometimes I browse, rarely I post. If they read this, I guess they might ban me. Oh well. What it comes down to is this:

If you really believe anything of the crap that comes out of Thunders and apply it consistently, then either A: People are just jealous bitches or B: Thunder's is a Penis Enlargement Community that doesnt believe in Penis Enlargement. FIgure that one out.

 

[Lightning]

It's funny how it's always the same 10 mods/wannabe mods at Thunders that starts/talks shit. Whenever DLD's name comes up it seems like its mostly all the same mods talking to each other. They mind as well talk on a party line since DLD's name comes up so often over there.

Its also real messed up how Thunder used to support Big ALs site there and now he is letting his Mods slander his marketing technics. Same thing happened when Bib left Thunders they started talking crap then too.

Four words to Thunders "LET IT GO GUYS" it's been a Year and a half and you can't come up with better topics besides DLD Topics.

 

[DLD]

It's funny how it's always the same 10 mods/wannabe mods at Thunders that starts/talks shit. Whenever DLD's name comes up it seems like its mostly all the same mods talking to each other. They mind as well talk on a party line since DLD's name comes up so often over there.

The sad part of this is the bulk of these guys, although they will never admit it (good thing I keep ALL of my PRIVATE MESSAGES), I worked with one to one. Secjay, WAD, DINO, etc. (not to mention many more) have all come to me for one to one help and I gave my time freely and devoutly. History does not lie, read any of my posts on their forum and see any of the names in current threads trying to discredit me and the same people were saying how much they gained, got helped, etc. using my techniques. When the leader of a group decides he is threatened by someone it is very easy for that person to brain wash the group into one mentality. This is exactly what happened when Thunder saw the success I was having. I know this because I was given direct screen shots of the MOD forum at Thunders after I was de-modded by one of their esteemed mods. I saw, for myself, their planned lynching mentality towards trying to debunk me. I would post these screen shots if I the MOD who gave them to me said I could, he is still a mod there.

Its also real messed up how Thunder used to support Big ALs site there and now he is letting his Mods slander his marketing technics. Same thing happened when Bib left Thunders they started talking crap then too.

Indeed it is but the mentality at Thunders is believe their way or you are an outsider and ostracized from the group. It seems to center around money. Although Thund3rs Pl@ce claims to be a free, non-profit group I know for certain they in fact make money through not only donations by creative affiliations. As long as no one makes money but the regime all is calm.

Four words to Thunders "LET IT GO GUYS" it's been a Year and a half and you can't come up with better topics besides DLD Topics.

It will never happen. At any given time you can look at the front page of the Penis Enlargement forum there and have at least 2 of my exercise threads. Search for the most popular search term there, I am certain DLD will be in the top 10. I know people get upset about how they try to trash me but in the end no one remembers the bashing, they only remember the name and they continue to flock to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]. Ironically, my best advertisement for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is the forums at Thund3rs Pl@ce.

 

[stillwantmore]

Another Irony of that place is that my big "how I wrap, how I wear my BIB hanger " thread is still part of one of the main sticky threads in their hanger forum

 

[CALIs_FINEST]

That Dino Guy Is A Jack Ass

 

[Jambaz]

A comment like that makes you seem like the jack ass.

 

[stillwantmore]

Are you Dinos buddy Jambaz??

I know he's a jackass. There are several members on thunders that are just that...jackasses. Just because I KNOW someone is a jackass, and I make a comment to that affect....in other words, a comment that is the truth...does not make me a jacksass. I'm merely the messenger of truth

 

[Mokie]

Are you Dinos buddy Jambaz??

I know he's a jackass. There are several members on thunders that are just that...jackasses. Just because I KNOW someone is a jackass, and I make a comment to that affect....in other words, a comment that is the truth...does not make me a jacksass. I'm merely the messenger of truth

 

[DLD]

LMAO

 

[dreamaloud1]

Jackass!​

Happy Gilmore anyone?

 

[Jambaz]

Not his buddy, but he just always seemed like a good guy to me, and not into bashing other forums, but I could be wrong.

 

[DLD]

Not his buddy, but he just always seemed like a good guy to me, and not into bashing other forums, but I could be wrong.

I love your AVATAR

 

[Jambaz]

Hehe thanks DLD

 

[Mokie]

They start again too

 

[DLD]

This is an old thread but I guess it is just as relevant today....