Super

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Putting it perspective

This will probably be the most controversial topic ever, but it has to be said, this is a lot to digest but you got to read it, Make sure you do your Lazy ass stretching while you read this. I sure am.

Over the last 5 years that I have been doing this, I have learned so many things. Bought, tried and done everything there is to do, and I mean everything. I should be a lot bigger, but have never remained consistent with a program for longer than 2-3months. It all comes down to just basic Penis Enlargement guys, stretching and jelqing. You can pump, take pills, and do everything else you want to, but you just have to stretch and Jelq and do some advanced exercises.

I see so many guys on these boards going and looking for these pics of these adult entertainment stars and ask the all to familiar question “How Big is He?” Does it really matter? These porno’s have so many tricks and techniques, I have seen peter north look as big as 9X6.5 and as short as 5X5. I have seen Lex, look 14” long as short as 7”, and don’t get me started on John Holmes, he’s big but people say he is like 12” no way. I know that there is probably less that 20 people worldwide that are 12”. Look, go get a ruler and look how long 12” is, yea, exactly my point, no way.

Do I think adult entertainment Stars Penis Enlargement? Who knows, who cares? Are they you? Is doing exactly what they do going to work for you? No. Do you even know what they do? No. You don’t know their circumstances, their finances, their genetic code, and what they do, and so on. Just accept the fact that there are big people out there, everyone is different, no one can explain why some one is bigger than another, except it genetics.

The sooner you do the better you will feel about yourself and be happy with what you have. That’s it, we can talk about race, color, DHT, hair loss, different syndromes and on and on, you will never answer it, only in time will science and mapping the genetic code out, which is not a top priority for scientist to figure out how to make our penis bigger. They got better things to do like, finding a cure for aids, altzimers and cancer and making people live longer. That is why there are people like me to do this shit like I do like shooting hormones and all the other stuff I do, and see if it works and DLD and myself an the rest of you to find better exercises to do.

The seeing is not in the believing guys, I don’t believe half the people out there that claim there size, even if they show pics, 90% are fake, DLD has shown me that. When people say they are this big and that, I want to a real clear pic, that is not hazy or fuzzy without your hands in the way, Granted I got my 8” pic up, with my hand in the way, but I could not help it, There are other pics of me up that are in the same thread that you can see tis the same size with or without my hand in the way. Plus I don’t know two shits about photo-editing and all that BS, I just Penis Enlargement, if you don’t believe my size or DLD’s who cares, I Don’t and neither does he.
 
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Don’t waste time looking for this perfect size that you think you need to be, you got your own penis and you can make it bigger, but first, be happy with your penis, you have to be happy with yourself, on the insides to be happy with the out sides, your light shines from within. Your penis does not make you a man, what makes you a man is your insides, your beating heart, you honor, your word, your integrity. If you have none of those, you are no man, even if you are 15X8. It does not matter how big you are, if you have the virtues of a man, you are a man, big or small, short or tall, 130lbs to 250lbs. I am 180lbs and can outwit any man that does not have those virtues, cause I have honor, courage and commitment.

What is better, this forum that forum. Who cares? Really? I used to, but I have to accept the fact that there are walls that you cannot push down no matter how hard you try to because of hurt feelings, jealously and everything else. If you want to be at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], Thunders, Penis Enlargement forums, Better mans and so on, who cares? It’s all the same shit, over and over. Stoke here, pull here, hold that, squeeze this, kegal here, hold that, and so one. If you want to Penis Enlargement just do it, and do get involved with all the bullshit. In the end who really cares? Only the people that, which is all they have to hold on to. I look at the other forums and they got the same shit over and over and over. Its like a ferry go round, how to build a better [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], how to build the cheapest most dirt cheap product and get the best results out of it. Give me a break. Who cares, just do what you want and stop trying to make this a fucking competition on every-level possible, it’s all the same shit, over and over.

Is Penis Enlargement patent? NO!!! So why is it such a big deal who came up with this exercises and that, its all the same shit, I never knew we were in this to become famous. Look at every Penis Enlargement web site, it’s the same exercise, different name, so why get upset about it. If DLD wants to put his name on his own technique, who gives a shit. I remember when I started talking about the Ring of Power, everyone at thunders got in a hissy over “You are supposed to use the Ball Zinger name” You know what, I don’t have to, I told people who’s idea it was and everything. And before I brought up the ROP that subject was dead, completely for months, now it is the hottest topic out there, look on all the boards, the ROP or BZ is every were. At thunders, they got like 20 posts on it now, how to build a $.3 BZ and people saying “I am dedicated to building the perfect BZ”. Give me a break, its already as good as it going to get. All I did was post my amazing results with it and supported its use 100% and that got it going, since then it has helped countless people all around that world, and I am so happy to hear that. Who gives a shit if I make them for people or DLD has a pay site on common exercise or Thunder has a hanger for sell, if you want it, it is up to you to buy it, or make one your own. You are not forced into anything at all, all the knowledge and info is out there for you to do it yourself or buy what you want. This is America. Land of the free and home of the brave.

When DLD made his pay site he got flamed for saying “Penis Enlargement should be free” In my translation, nothing is free so I hear “BLAH BLAH BLAH” everyone has got there own intentions for everything they do. There is no difference between DLD having a $50 pay site, and thunders having a $95-$130 bib hanger, nothing at all, or me making rings for people. We can talk about profits this and profits that and all that. DLD has given out
 
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all of his info on all of his exercises just like Thunder has given out all his info to how to build a make shit bib hanger, so what is the diff? None.

Then , people even have the audacity to say “The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forums are free but if you don't contribute or pay for a membership you are considered to be a leech.”

That’s coming from some one does not donate and belongs to a forum were the word “BIB Hanger For Sell” and the Donate to Thunders button are every were, and donation drives are a monthly event. Nothing is free in this world. Nothing. Someone has to pay the bill, keep the server running and so on, there is nothing wrong with donating to a forum if you want to. DLD and Thunder are no different; they both have great sites and a lot can be learned. I respect both of them for what they have given the Penis Enlargement community as a whole.

Is your penis everything? No its not. I learn that more and more everyday, as I have psychological and physical issues with my size and what has happened to it. But the more I think about it the more it makes sense. There is always opposite ends to the spectrum, with the women in particular. Some girls like big ones some like regular ones, if you’re with someone that all she cares about is size then, you probably should not be with her anyways. I have talked to, to many guys that there girls broke up with then cause they were not big enough, ya know what? She is not a woman; I would call her a slut more like it. If you are a good guy and you have honor and virtue inside and are good to that girl and she says you small, that really shows that you don’t need to be with her. We can talk about 100 different circumstances and all that, but it’s the truth.

You are better than she ever will be, just tell her “Fine then go get butt fucked by 10 big dick guys and see how long they want to stay with you and btw see how low you can yourself and your respect for yourself” All that is trash guys trash. I see to many of my friends try and get back with the same girl after she has called them small. Why? She is not worth your time and your money, there are so many better girls out there man, don’t get stuck with one you have to constantly think and try to make your self better than her, why? You already are. And you always will be.

The only guy I know that has succeeded with it was YGUY, which I respect at the utmost tops of respect. But his girl never called him small; all he did was sleep with her again after he gained like 4 inches. Sorry YGUY, now everyone is going to be PM’ing, “I want to gain 4 inches, tell me what to DO!!” As I did, remember? ROFLAMO. You’re a bad ass mother fucker. You know what he told me? “ I just Penis Enlargement man, I don’t know anything more than you, I just stayed committed for 3 years and Penis Enlargement’ed everyday” I think “Man I wish I had that Commitment.”

There are so many more important things in life: family, wife and kids, friends, good times, seeing the world, spending time with that special someone that cares about you just as much as you care about her, going to a Saturday afternoon picnic on a Sunny day with your family, seeing movies and on and on, your penis is just one very small part of that, no matter how big it is.

Did someone penis ever makes them famous? No. Yea I said no! adult entertainment stars are not famous ok, it is not a accepted thing to talk about in mainstream America with your wife and family, how many guys here do? None. I lived in LA, the heart of adult entertainment industry and it was still looked down on, and those people will never be accepted in America as model citizens. Yea they make a lot of money and get to bang a lot of hot sluts, but who cares, are you going to be one? No? Do you want to live in that kind of environment. I know what it is like, I lived there, my friends new a lot of the adult entertainment stars and I met a few, it’s a nasty drug filled, gossip talking, fitly abomination of the gift God gave us. Now I am not saying that I don’t look at adult entertainment, I do, for Penis Enlargement, that’s it. Is it a sin? Who knows, that not the topic of discussion, that is up to each person’s heart and relationship with the Father.

Well I tried to hit everything on my mind and give it to yall in the most non-bullshit strait up truth about everything in Penis Enlargement community and life as a whole, about everything that there is in all of this, it all boils down to, you guys are good men and good friends, I love all of you for being who you are and not what others try to make you.

I dedicate this thread to all of you that are looking for the truth about everything and want some comfort for your heart, you are not alone and you never will be. Be happy with all that God gave you and strive to be better men and citizens of humanity

God Bless You All

Supra
 
Supra said:
The seeing is not in the believing guys, I don’t believe half the people out there that claim there size, even if they show pics, 90% are fake, DLD has shown me that. When people say they are this big and that, I want to a real clear pic, that is not hazy or fuzzy without your hands in the way, Granted I got my 8” pic up, with my hand in the way, but I could not help it, There are other pics of me up that are in the same thread that you can see tis the same size with or without my hand in the way. Plus I don’t know two shits about photo-editing and all that BS, I just Penis Enlargement, if you don’t believe my size or DLD’s who cares, I Don’t and neither does he.



So your saying 90% of the dudes on here that have posted a pic are not telling the truth about there size? Or they have photoshoped there pics? So who are they call them out my man! I beleive most of the people on here are truthfull.
 
crazyed27 said:
So your saying 90% of the dudes on here that have posted a pic are not telling the truth about there size? Or they have photoshoped there pics? So who are they call them out my man! I beleive most of the people on here are truthfull.

I am talking about the internet, all the adult entertainment sites and all the bullshit about these BIG COCK WEB SITES that are so full of it, not people on here
 
Yeah i agree with most of what you said, but i will still be Penis Enlargementing. :)
 
Supra - some good points. I can't speak to a lot of it as I have not been a Penis Enlargementer for nearly as long as you. I never acqainted myself with the likes of Thunder's, Penis Enlargement Forums, Better... [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is the first site that I stumbled upon. I liked what I saw. Knowledgeable and friendly people. Informative topics. Great support.

It sounds as though, regarding Penis Enlargement, a motto of sorts that you have realized is: KISS "Keeep It Simple Stupid". I can't say that I've tried pills, pumps, etc... I just do what DLD tells me to do and that happens to be stretching/jelqing engulfed in several variations - as you stated.

When all is said and done, the size of a man's penis has very insignificant impact on defining who a man is or rather, who a man aims to be. However, that being said. I do think that it can and is used as a good tool for motivation. I understand what you are saying about adult entertainment stars and cock whore women out there that some of your friends have been subject to. But can't some of that be turned around into positive motivation? I have never been subject to such a let-down from a woman and the woman I'm with now says that I am the perfect size for her - and one of her earlier boyfriends was 9" long! (On a side note, that is the single reason that got me into Penis Enlargement - her first boyfriend. Even though she said to me that she absolutely hated having sex with him. What can I say?)

Anyway, great post with a lot of dead-on comments!
 
wow. this is a pretty deep topic. and nothin here isn't far form the truth. supra is right on , with this topic. every issue you disguss here is the facts of the matter. good job at disecting everything
 
Dario said:
Supra - some good points. I can't speak to a lot of it as I have not been a Penis Enlargementer for nearly as long as you. I never acqainted myself with the likes of Thunder's, Penis Enlargement Forums, Better... [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is the first site that I stumbled upon. I liked what I saw. Knowledgeable and friendly people. Informative topics. Great support.

It sounds as though, regarding Penis Enlargement, a motto of sorts that you have realized is: KISS "Keeep It Simple Stupid". I can't say that I've tried pills, pumps, etc... I just do what DLD tells me to do and that happens to be stretching/jelqing engulfed in several variations - as you stated.

When all is said and done, the size of a man's penis has very insignificant impact on defining who a man is or rather, who a man aims to be. However, that being said. I do think that it can and is used as a good tool for motivation. I understand what you are saying about adult entertainment stars and cock whore women out there that some of your friends have been subject to. But can't some of that be turned around into positive motivation? I have never been subject to such a let-down from a woman and the woman I'm with now says that I am the perfect size for her - and one of her earlier boyfriends was 9" long! (On a side note, that is the single reason that got me into Penis Enlargement - her first boyfriend. Even though she said to me that she absolutely hated having sex with him. What can I say?)

Anyway, great post with a lot of dead-on comments!


Oh ya it can be used as a great motivater as well, I just am sad to see guys get dumbed by there girl casue she is a size queen, its not your fault. Its hers, just cause she has a body cavity hole that I could duck and cover in against on comming fire, does not mean you have to suffer from it, get my drift, Keep Doing pe my friend
 
I agree from your second paragraph in the first post, The Basics!
The basics are the foundation of anything. Look at weight lifting for an example. The basics and the best for building strength. The bench press, the squat, the dead lift, rows, and military presses, just doing the basics will get you a long way, then when you get to a certain point you use the other exercises to isolate certain areas of your body.
I look at Penis Enlargement as being very similar to that, the basics, jelqs and stretches, will get you a long way if done consistently. No doubt about it. I don't believe you have to do all types of crazy training just to gain in Penis Enlargement. Just stick to the fundamentals, they are the backbone to everything in Penis Enlargement IMO. You will get to a point where you'll want to isolate an area of the penis, like the glans for example, I think everyone should see what they can get out of the basics. Everything will grow, some areas might grow faster than others, much like in weight lifting. Once you got a solid year of training under your belt you'll know what areas need targeted, and where you gain fast at and where you gain slow at. If it was'nt for the basics nobody would have a bigger penis. Please don't overlook the power of the basics!
 
georginho said:
Yeah i agree with most of what you said, but i will still be Penis Enlargementing. :)


Never stop Penis Enlargementing man, I just did a hour of it before I posted this, Just dont let it over look other important things in life. Never stop before you get to your dreams.
 
crazyed27 said:
I agree from your second paragraph in the first post, The Basics!
The basics are the foundation of anything. Look at weight lifting for an example. The basics and the best for building strength. The bench press, the squat, the dead lift, rows, and military presses, just doing the basics will get you a long way, then when you get to a certain point you use the other exercises to isolate certain areas of your body.
I look at Penis Enlargement as being very similar to that, the basics, jelqs and stretches, will get you a long way if done consistently. No doubt about it. I don't believe you have to do all types of crazy training just to gain in Penis Enlargement. Just stick to the fundamentals, they are the backbone to everything in Penis Enlargement IMO. You will get to a point where you'll want to isolate an area of the penis, like the glans for example, I think everyone should see what they can get out of the basics. Everything will grow, some areas might grow faster than others, much like in weight lifting. Once you got a solid year of training under your belt you'll know what areas need targeted, and where you gain fast at and where you gain slow at. If it was'nt for the basics nobody would have a bigger penis. Please don't overlook the power of the basics!


Right on my freind.
 
Dead on... crazyed27 :cool:
I 100% agree with that, and i think everyone else would too.
There are so much different routines from all the NPenis Enlargement sites out there, but as you say the fundamentals are stretching and jelquing. :cool:
 
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Very well said, Supra! You hit it spot-on, we shouldn't let our penis size dictate our view of ourself, for the better or for the worse! What is on the outside is really irrelevant in the end: you can have a pro bodybuilder physique and a 10x8 cock, but if you aren't an honest, good person on the inside it doesn't mean shit.

This was really a thought provoking reading! :)
 
Shafty said:
Very well said, Supra! You hit it spot-on, we shouldn't let our penis size dictate our view of ourself, for the better or for the worse! What is on the outside is really irrelevant in the end: you can have a pro bodybuilder physique and a 10x8 cock, but if you aren't an honest, good person on the inside it doesn't mean shit.

This was really a thought provoking reading! :)


Very well said Shafty! :)
 
Shafty said:
Very well said, Supra! You hit it spot-on, we shouldn't let our penis size dictate our view of ourself, for the better or for the worse! What is on the outside is really irrelevant in the end: you can have a pro bodybuilder physique and a 10x8 cock, but if you aren't an honest, good person on the inside it doesn't mean shit.

This was really a thought provoking reading! :)


Thanks man, be true to yourself first, after that you can have everything you always wanted
 
Supra,

This is a great thread; all you wrote here has sense. People have to be aware of the importance of a larger penis. There are a lot more good and important things in life. But if we think a larger penis will make us happier and more successful we should not stop Penis Enlargement. For some of us Penis Enlargement has become an obsession, all the exercises and workouts fill most of the day. I hope your post will help us all to modify our thoughts about Penis Enlargement and help us to “Putting it in Perspective”.

All the best to all Penis Enlargement members,
Yves
 
Great read Supra. Very good points in those threads. I am also very dissapointed about those "Penis Enlargement wars" and getting the DLD and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] down. That thing really sucks. DLD made a lot for the Penis Enlargement science. Every forum has it's own groove and style. Info is out there somewhere for everybody to get it. I like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] because it is an open community. i used to post something in cheekycherry forums but I don't go there anymore because they are closed too much. If somebody just says something about the other forum or something like that he flies away. Those mods are just waiting for a mistake.
Yeah and penis is definitely not everything. The personality, good ethics and positive thinking are the key.
 
Nice article SUPRA. I understand your frustration and that is the main reason I did my original in depth study of the adult entertainment industry:Is Everything Really What it Seems?. This study not only helped me with my frustration with the adult entertainment industry it also allowed me to see my penis in a new light.
 
Supra said:
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The seeing is not in the believing guys, I don’t believe half the people out there that claim there size, even if they show pics, 90% are fake, DLD has shown me that. When people say they are this big and that, I want to a real clear pic, that is not hazy or fuzzy without your hands in the way, Granted I got my 8” pic up, with my hand in the way, but I could not help it, There are other pics of me up that are in the same thread that you can see tis the same size with or without my hand in the way. Plus I don’t know two shits about photo-editing and all that BS, I just Penis Enlargement, if you don’t believe my size or DLD’s who cares, I Don’t and neither does he.

I know this is controversial but if you claim to be above 8x6 and don't have pics, I dont' believe. I think you may have that, you might not.

When I clear 8x6, hopefully in a few months, I'm going to have clear photographic evidence. I'm talking fully ruler, and tape. I know a lot of guys don't like doing that. I think a lot of us have anxiety disorders. Including me, I will get hella scared doing it too. I think that type of anxiety disorder is what inspires us to do things like this. Most guys just don't care enough to do pe. Good for them, but I'd still rather be anxious and have a huge dick because of it:).

If you are under 8x6 I believe what your saying, because there is no 'motive' to lie really. Also for me when I clear 8x6 in both ways, I will take clear photos like stillwantmore every 2 months. So I can prove progress to others, so they know I'm not bullshitting.

Let me just reiterate, I'm not saying people above 8x6 with no pics are lying. I'm saying I personally find it hard to believe them. They could very well be telling the truth.
 
randolf said:
I know this is controversial but if you claim to be above 8x6 and don't have pics, I dont' believe. I think you may have that, you might not.

When I clear 8x6, hopefully in a few months, I'm going to have clear photographic evidence. I'm talking fully ruler, and tape. I know a lot of guys don't like doing that. I think a lot of us have anxiety disorders. Including me, I will get hella scared doing it too. I think that type of anxiety disorder is what inspires us to do things like this. Most guys just don't care enough to do pe. Good for them, but I'd still rather be anxious and have a huge dick because of it:).

If you are under 8x6 I believe what your saying, because there is no 'motive' to lie really. Also for me when I clear 8x6 in both ways, I will take clear photos like stillwantmore every 2 months. So I can prove progress to others, so they know I'm not bullshitting.

Let me just reiterate, I'm not saying people above 8x6 with no pics are lying. I'm saying I personally find it hard to believe them. They could very well be telling the truth.

Putting a ruler against your dick only gives you more credibility. Men can choose to do this or not but in my opinion it proves their claims in a electronic world of exudations.

When GQ magazine came to my house the interviewer and I discussed Penis Enlargement, my gains, my exercise, etc. but as he said talk is cheap and the proof is in the pudding. He requested a measurement in front of him. Even though I do have issues with anxiety I felt accommodating this request would give me credibility behind all my hard work, so I did it.

When I first went to my best friend JAZ's house to film the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] stuff the first thing he asked was to see it measured in front of him (remember he is a life long friend) I accommodated because again I felt my integrity was on the line.
 
Supra said:
Don’t waste time looking for this perfect size that you think you need to be, you got your own penis and you can make it bigger, but first, be happy with your penis, you have to be happy with yourself, on the insides to be happy with the out sides, your light shines from within. Your penis does not make you a man, what makes you a man is your insides, your beating heart, you honor, your word, your integrity. If you have none of those, you are no man, even if you are 15X8. It does not matter how big you are, if you have the virtues of a man, you are a man, big or small, short or tall, 130lbs to 250lbs. I am 180lbs and can outwit any man that does not have those virtues, cause I have honor, courage and commitment.

Ya sometimes we forget about the reality. Like just two days ago I was admiring how my eyebrows protect my eyes from sweat so well. How the hair there grows to be just the right length and texture. Or a while before that my family's dog at home jumped up and my eyes blinked out of natural reaction for safety.

We sometimes forget the myriad of little things. Or big things really. The way all of our bones and mucles fit together. Our lips, our skin, we are more then just a penis.

Having said that a penis is a big factor in being a man. Its a visible symbol of fertility. It has functional capability. Its one of the few differences between men and women. I mean they have skin, they have lips, they have eyebrows. They dont' have a penis though.

To me building up a huge cock is even bigger then being buff. Or tall I'd rather be hung and a short fucker, then really tall and have a small dick.

I think what your saying is that say your are 8x6, and another man walks in the room who is 8.5x6.5. You aren't neccessarily less of a man then him. Even if he is buffer then you and taller and better looking, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

A woman still might choose you because of your personality or she might just for some unexplained reason feel attraction to you. Some women my friends find hot I dont' really find hot. Some I'm like damnnn and they don't find attractive at all.

Thats one thing our stupid media doesn't get, different people like different things. I personally like a girl with some sweet curves even if she weighs a bit more. Other guys like thin girls. You can't say this guy is more attractive than this other guy. To you maybe, to another woman she might find the 'less attractive' one turns her on for some reason.

I like women with nice big healthy noses, in regards to that one body part. Most guys like tiny almost non existant noses.

In terms of penis, I believe women on average like a far above average size penis. They like one that is 'vascular', and super hard and healthy. They don't want some semi impotent guy. Actualy women will tell you they'd rather have a nice hard cock thats average then a large softish one. However they would go for a large hard one. That is their nature, to seek out healthy and fertile men. Its a genetic advantage and therefore it has spread and it will continue to spread.

Also in my opinion a big cock is more pleasureable for the guy. Having more surface area for one thing on the most sensitive organ is a good thing. Making sex a tighter fit because you have more girth is also good. And reaching farther in her to places you haven't is good for you as well as for her. Even if there were no women on the planet, I still would do Penis Enlargement for this reason. I believe a big cock and healthy cock gives you more pleasure too.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Putting a ruler against your dick only gives you more credibility. Men can choose to do this or not but in my opinion it proves their claims in a electronic world of exudations.

When GQ magazine came to my house the interviewer and I discussed Penis Enlargement, my gains, my exercise, etc. but as he said talk is cheap and the proof is in the pudding. He requested a measurement in front of him. Even though I do have issues with anxiety I felt accommodating this request would give me credibility behind all my hard work, so I did it.

When I first went to my best friend JAZ's house to film the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] stuff the first thing he asked was to see it measured in front of him (remember he is a life long friend) I accommodated because again I felt my integrity was on the line.

Exactly, even your long time friend who I'm sure trusts you, wanted proof.

If I was writing a story on it I'd want to see some proof too.

Everyone on lpsg was claiming huge sizes, actualy ridiculus sizes but no picture proof. That site is some very funny reading but I dont' believe their claims. Maybe 8x6 is too low to feel a need for picture proof. It just seems to be the official 'large' starting size.
 
Wow, very good thread Supra. As I'm sure you already know, I agree with the honor, courage, commitment & integrity stuff. That proves your worth as a man more than just about anything. Borrowing some of your hindsight, a lack of consistency has been my main issue as well. I could also be bigger by now, being "in the game" for about as long as you have. Ah well, life happens and we learn dont we? I'm not going to dwell on why I havent been more consistent and how I could/should/would be bigger than I am now. I'm still happy with my size, I just have yet to reach my goals. I'm not stopping until I do though. I will say that I have a much better game plan with my Penis Enlargement now than I probably ever have over the last few years.

I have recently taken a 'back to basics' approach to my Penis Enlargement, and I feel like I'm back on the right track. There's nothing wrong with pursuing whatever type of Penis Enlargement you think sounds good, but you really need to pick one or two, three at the most types of exercises and STICK TO THEM. That I have learned, albeit the hard way, is the key that will get you results better than most things. Not jumping into the wonder-exercise (insert patent pending) of the month that everybody else on the bandwagon is jumping on every time somebody comes up with a "new" idea.

I also see too many guys getting all wrapped up in the size debates. Sure, I agree that it is a good thing, perhaps a mentally calming or reassuring thing to know what 'average size' is or where you fall on the scale of size compared to the numbers, but constantly comparing yourself to other men does you no good. All it does most of the time is cause you more problems in your head and more doubts and more feelings like "damn, I'll just never be big enough no matter what I do". That most likely causes a lot of guys to quit Penis Enlargement before they get even half way to their goals. There will ALWAYS be somebody with a bigger penis or better love making skills than you. That's life. You just have to focus on what YOU have, what YOU can do to improve upon that, and 'just do it'.

Most of us are here because we for one reason or another are not completely happy with what we already have. Determine how much more length or girth you would like to have. Take a little time and think about how realistic your goals are for YOU and your life schedule. Then, put together your plan of attack to hit those goals.
 
I have read your posts Supra, but are you really quitting Penis Enlargement? I can't believe one day your shooting drugs in your dick and boasting about your size and then the next you just quit? there's a lot of controversial stuff out there, but I still want to be involved here. maybe the penis isn't the most appropriate part to improve, it gives you one more thing good about you. self improvement is what we're all here for, and as long as you truly realoze your goals in life, sorted out yourself, Penis Enlargement is a great thing to do, we've got a smallcommunity here, and I will stay.
 
Where or when did Supra say he was quitting? Misinterpretation I guess ;)
 
randolf said:
I know this is controversial but if you claim to be above 8x6 and don't have pics, I dont' believe. I think you may have that, you might not.

When I clear 8x6, hopefully in a few months, I'm going to have clear photographic evidence. I'm talking fully ruler, and tape. I know a lot of guys don't like doing that. I think a lot of us have anxiety disorders. Including me, I will get hella scared doing it too. I think that type of anxiety disorder is what inspires us to do things like this. Most guys just don't care enough to do pe. Good for them, but I'd still rather be anxious and have a huge dick because of it:).

If you are under 8x6 I believe what your saying, because there is no 'motive' to lie really. Also for me when I clear 8x6 in both ways, I will take clear photos like stillwantmore every 2 months. So I can prove progress to others, so they know I'm not bullshitting.

Let me just reiterate, I'm not saying people above 8x6 with no pics are lying. I'm saying I personally find it hard to believe them. They could very well be telling the truth.
Since I don't know [yet] how to post a pic I haven't "posted" my size because I have gotten tired of "peeps" not believing my size is real
LT
 
stillwantmore said:
Where or when did Supra say he was quitting? Misinterpretation I guess ;)

He didn't. Yep, misinterpretation. I think Supra if anyone is going to Penis Enlargement till he grows old and gray...

as a matter of fact, I can vividly picture him in a rocking chair on his back porch, grumbling away happily, squeezing a bottle of viagra in his other hand and tugging on his grizzled old log with the other... :s rofl
 
randolf said:
I know this is controversial but if you claim to be above 8x6 and don't have pics, I dont' believe. I think you may have that, you might not.

When I clear 8x6, hopefully in a few months, I'm going to have clear photographic evidence. I'm talking fully ruler, and tape. I know a lot of guys don't like doing that. I think a lot of us have anxiety disorders. Including me, I will get hella scared doing it too. I think that type of anxiety disorder is what inspires us to do things like this. Most guys just don't care enough to do pe. Good for them, but I'd still rather be anxious and have a huge dick because of it:).

If you are under 8x6 I believe what your saying, because there is no 'motive' to lie really. Also for me when I clear 8x6 in both ways, I will take clear photos like stillwantmore every 2 months. So I can prove progress to others, so they know I'm not bullshitting.

Let me just reiterate, I'm not saying people above 8x6 with no pics are lying. I'm saying I personally find it hard to believe them. They could very well be telling the truth.

I totally understand, I do have pics though, you may not have seen

Supra's 8X6 pics
 
fallen_one23 said:
I have read your posts Supra, but are you really quitting Penis Enlargement? I can't believe one day your shooting drugs in your dick and boasting about your size and then the next you just quit? there's a lot of controversial stuff out there, but I still want to be involved here. maybe the penis isn't the most appropriate part to improve, it gives you one more thing good about you. self improvement is what we're all here for, and as long as you truly realoze your goals in life, sorted out yourself, Penis Enlargement is a great thing to do, we've got a smallcommunity here, and I will stay.


I am never going to quit pe, just one of the things I have learned is that my Penis is not who I am and granted it makes for a lot of good convo with friends nad family.

I just got done doing my Supra Slammers, now I am doing lazy ass's.
 
Shafty said:
He didn't. Yep, misinterpretation. I think Supra if anyone is going to Penis Enlargement till he grows old and gray...

as a matter of fact, I can vividly picture him in a rocking chair on his back porch, grumbling away happily, squeezing a bottle of viagra in his other hand and tugging on his grizzled old log with the other... :s rofl


Damn right!
 
People just need to understand some of the truth's with all of this and get over nonsense with the forum wars and trash talk, I myself used to be involved in it, and its just stupid, I cannot break down the walls, but I can shed light on them and maybe turn a couple heads in doing so. People should learn to realize that we are all Penis Enlargementing together and there is no reason to bash one another while doing it.

I have seen more politics and bullshit about Penis Enlargement than I have on any other board that I am on. Its like the "Who has got a bigger dick contest” Who really cares. If it is about money, which I know it is between [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and Thunders, people need to get over that and realize that and embrace competition. Instead of trying to abolish it, cause it is not reality. Embrace it, it makes you look better, not trying to run everybody off, just cause you have the power. If someone comes up with a better hanger or a better way of doing something, embrace it, don’t shun it. It only hurts people feelings and make you looks bad.

There would not be all this hate if people would not start it and get over there ego's for once and just Penis Enlargement and get over that someone might no more than you and such. DLD never had a problem with anyone at all until he wanted to do his own site, he was even backed by everyone and then suddenly that all changed, God only knows why.

There are to many guys at Thunders that just get shitted on cause they have good ideas, Captain Hook, Pirate Steve, Chicken Choker and many other, they have bad ass hangers and cause they come upon with the idea, they get slapped with commercial member. Everyone talks about how everything is free over there, but its just not the case. I wish people could see that. I think thunders has some great stuff and has help 1,000's of men, but I think that the just don’t like competition at all, and there is a lot of censorship and brain washing and things get covered up fast if they don’t like something. I love bib, he is a bad ass guy and has helped me out a ton, and his hanger is great, but I think that others should be able to show there idea’s without getting a bad label slapped on them.

It is apparent and obvious that bib and thunder are associated 100%, thunder is always talking about paying bib’s server bill and thunder says he “clicked the switches” on bib site for the hanger, ok fine that’s cool with me, if they are in it together or are the same person, whatever, bib has never done me wrong, and I support the bib more than any other product. But I just don’t think it is right to shun anyone else with a hanger, yes the bib is patent, but the other hangers are not like the bib at all, so he has nothing to worry about.
 
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Any internet "community" is like life. You have people who are always going to BS , in life the best thing to do is smile and forget them, without kicking up an argument. The same things applies here , if someone says he's 9x7 and is'nt , what do you or I care ? ultimately the only person he's cheating is himself. There's no need to get stressed or have an uproars as it won't help anyone.

Just focus on yourself , we're all here to make ourselves bigger, and I personally do it for me , not for any women, although they will of course reap the benefits. If I can help a newbie , or a more experienced member can help me on the way then we all win.
 
Supra,

I understand your struggle for a better and honest competition between the different Penis Enlargement forums. The truth behind it can only be revealed by its owners. But the commercial interest will be worth more than the wellbeing of the Forum Members. We normal members are the losers of this so called War between the Rulers. I’m a member of different forums and have met a lot of nice guys. They all are willing to help and advice, especially the support to the newbie’s show that there is no competition in these lower levels.
But all of this isn’t so diverse from the world outside. You see a lot of smiling faces behind the counter, but how many of these are really honest smiles. This all is scary, we all like to be treated fair and equal.
We need a new Hero to change this “bad” world, maybe you are the first to start this process.
I hope we all join to reach a better future for everyone on all fields.

Good Luck,
Yves
 
Well I find more and more prime examples of this. Like these two threads

Supra Slammers

Some guy that I dont know, want to learn about the Slammers, and he gets some help from people, and then people like to come in and say that I am trying to take credit for exercises when I totally did not, I posted in my exercise each of the correct names of them and put them in a way that is a progressive overload of blood engorgement. But then you got guys that I thought were really cool saying

" I have just finished my Secjay's mega-master-energy-super-plump 'n' tasty-breakfast.... (vegemite on toast and a cup of chocolate milk, of course I didn't invent the components, but rather the unique combination...) Has anybody here tried the Secjay's mega-master-energy-super-plump 'n' tasty-breakfast before? I invented it you know, because I am a hardcore vet who's been cookin, oh, what - about 2 weeks now..."

How off the topic is that, people just refuse to accept anything that might work casue someone else came up with a better way to do something on the origional way. And try to push it off as something stupid that does not work, even after there are tons of guys that have already gained from something Good.

Then you got a thread Like this

DLD Blasters

You got guys that say DLD is full of shit and that they dont work at all. The only reason why they never said that my Slammers did not work is cause mine use common exercises that everone knows works. So if they said that then they would really have there foots in there mouth's. So DLD Blasters dont work right? And no one has gained from them and so on so you got some wanker that says

"The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forums are free but if you don't contribute or pay for a membership you are considered to be a leech.

I've never tried DLD blasters, however I do perform kegels and reverse kegels while hanging out of boredom and to keep circulation up. I seriously doubt they contribute to my lengthgains."

Really how farther from the truth can that whole comment be? YOur right man, DLD Blasters dont do anything. See this is the kinda jealousy and stuff that people need to be aware of and put dumb wankers comments behind them like that.

DLD has contributed more to Penis Enlargement than anyone else had. Its funny how when He was at thunders before he got the pay site everyone loved him and he was the biggest thing out there. And then when he started a pay site he got trashed saying he stole peoples exercises. Funny, before the the pay site, no on ever said that he stole them, so why now? Oh thats right, casue Penis Enlargement exercises have a patent on it, Sorry, my bad. So then they go about it and tear down the biggest thread in history, his DLD blasters thread, when it is the same exercise as before, but since he started the pay site, its all the sudden a stolen exercise and does not work. How completley stupid is that? It boggles my mind to this day. I hope this showed yall some more stuff that is the truth about things.
 
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Thunder and Bib definately aren't the same person.In regards to Thunder promoting Bib: Thunders has posted thousands of posts and I would bet that maybe 10 have even included Bibs name in it. I am a mod at Thund3rs Pl@ce. There is just a different system of running things there. They are emphatic about keeping the site clean in regards to posting styles, flaming, porno, etc. I commend them for that. There is no DLD conspiracy or hatred towards [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I rather enjoy both sites for the two different styles. Thund3rs Pl@ce is very strict in regards to ideas, spelling, etc...and that is the reason the site is hugely successful. It is the most popular Penis Enlargement site on the web and for very good reason. We need to stop the bashing back and forth.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has its own different style...more free slinging. The very open nature of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] spawns some crazy thinking...and out of that craziness comes some truly revolutionary ideas..some of DLD's stuff...and the Supras ideas, etc...are making Penis Enlargement very scientific. It's amazing some of the stuff this place spawns. Point being that there is a place for both kinds of site..and I think both are great..and neither is better than the other...just different.




Supra said:
People just need to understand some of the truth's with all of this and get over nonsense with the forum wars and trash talk, I myself used to be involved in it, and its just stupid, I cannot break down the walls, but I can shed light on them and maybe turn a couple heads in doing so. People should learn to realize that we are all Penis Enlargementing together and there is no reason to bash one another while doing it.

I have seen more politics and bullshit about Penis Enlargement than I have on any other board that I am on. Its like the "Who has got a bigger dick contest? Who really cares. If it is about money, which I know it is between [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and Thunders, people need to get over that and realize that and embrace competition. Instead of trying to abolish it, cause it is not reality. Embrace it, it makes you look better, not trying to run everybody off, just cause you have the power. If someone comes up with a better hanger or a better way of doing something, embrace it, don?t shun it. It only hurts people feelings and make you looks bad.

There would not be all this hate if people would not start it and get over there ego's for once and just Penis Enlargement and get over that someone might no more than you and such. DLD never had a problem with anyone at all until he wanted to do his own site, he was even backed by everyone and then suddenly that all changed, God only knows why.

There are to many guys at Thunders that just get shitted on cause they have good ideas, Captain Hook, Pirate Steve, Chicken Choker and many other, they have bad ass hangers and cause they come upon with the idea, they get slapped with commercial member. Everyone talks about how everything is free over there, but its just not the case. I wish people could see that. I think thunders has some great stuff and has help 1,000's of men, but I think that the just don?t like competition at all, and there is a lot of censorship and brain washing and things get covered up fast if they don?t like something. I love bib, he is a bad ass guy and has helped me out a ton, and his hanger is great, but I think that others should be able to show there idea?s without getting a bad label slapped on them.

It is apparent and obvious that bib and thunder are associated 100%, thunder is always talking about paying bib?s server bill and thunder says he ?clicked the switches? on bib site for the hanger, ok fine that?s cool with me, if they are in it together or are the same person, whatever, bib has never done me wrong, and I support the bib more than any other product. But I just don?t think it is right to shun anyone else with a hanger, yes the bib is patent, but the other hangers are not like the bib at all, so he has nothing to worry about.
 
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goingdeeper said:
Thunder and Bib definately aren't the same person.In regards to Thunder promoting Bib: Thunders has posted thousands of posts and I would bet that maybe 10 have even included Bibs name in it. I am a mod at Thund3rs Pl@ce. There is just a different system of running things there. They are emphatic about keeping the site clean in regards to posting styles, flaming, porno, etc. I commend them for that. There is no DLD conspiracy or hatred towards [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I rather enjoy both sites for the two different styles. Thund3rs Pl@ce is very strict in regards to ideas, spelling, etc...and that is the reason the site is hugely successful. It is the most popular Penis Enlargement site on the web and for very good reason. We need to stop the bashing back and forth.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has its own different style...more free slinging. The very open nature of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] spawns some crazy thinking...and out of that craziness comes some truly revolutionary ideas..some of DLD's stuff...and the Supras ideas, etc...are making Penis Enlargement very scientific. It's amazing some of the stuff this place spawns. Point being that there is a place for both kinds of site..and I think both are great..and neither is better than the other...just different.

I agree with, but I never said that bib and thunder were the same, I said if they were I dont care, even though it would all me one big lie, its not my concern, I love BIB and the bib hanger. But there is a lot of flamming, look at the Supra Slammer thread and the DLD Blaster thread over there, they tear them apart casue it was not there Idea. IF there was not all this hatred then DLD, SWM and myself and many others should be able to post there, but then dont let us. I have in no way bashed thunders once in this thread, this thread is a eye opener to many people that have had the truth covered and taken out of there eyes, due to bashing, banning and censorship. If you really felt that good about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] then I think you would post here more and mabey defend us at thunders against people like SecJay, SS4Jelq, Hobby and the rest of the mods that like to trash us. Its really funny how they like to, but they are supposed to set a good example.
 
I have thought about it, but until now I have stayed out of both sides of the controversy. I don't post much at all anymore...but I have started to post more lately. Maybe I will just make some type of post at Thunders about this whole thing.
 
Hey did you see that, they locked the DLD blaster thread, I cannot belive this, this is total and udder BS, why would they lock a thread that has been one of the greatest Exercises to hit the Penis Enlargement World? Why would they do that? This is a utter disgrace, I feel ashamed for all those jealous people. Thats like locking a "How to Jelq thread". This is got to stop. Why does this continue?

Look at this

DLD Blasters
 
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The whole purpose of of these forums is about Penis Enlargement, by taken and locking that threads, you take away knowlegde and help from people that want it. I am so disappointed that thunder would do this, because It bears the DLD name. Thats like if thunder came up with the "Thunder Jelq" or something and it was on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], and it was a bad ass exercises and then, cause we were jealous, we locked the thread even though it gets people amazing results. This again proves that Thunders fears competiton and will do anything to get rid of it. When will they learn that this is not about there ego's and they will never be famous for this. Why hinder there own fellow members by locking a thread that has been so helpfull. I feel sorry for all the egotistic people over there that cannot get over themselves. Mabey if they would actually Penis Enlargement, and not just sit around trying to screw with people they would feel better about themselves and not have such a bad attititude towards people that do good in this world for others.
 
goingdeeper said:
I have thought about it, but until now I have stayed out of both sides of the controversy. I don't post much at all anymore...but I have started to post more lately. Maybe I will just make some type of post at Thunders about this whole thing.


I think you should make a post
 
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