Progress with SG

RR04;737567 said:
I saw you said 5 sets of manuals, twice a day. Does that mean the entire routine, 30 seconds each stretch, 5 times at two different points in the day?? For instance it takes me roughly 10 mins to complete 1 full set of all 30 second directions with rotaries. So effectively 5 times put you at 50 minutes, twice a day on stretching for a total of one hour 40 minutes. Am I wrong here?
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That's accurate. I see guys doing twice that amount. I don't get it everyday but 5 out of 7 days. Include the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] for an hour after each session it's 4 hours a day, not including [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] during the day at work.
 
bty84;737230 said:
researching ointments to improve tunica breakdown, i found this

The Sexually Healthy Man: Phase 3: The Infantry Attack/Topical Gel

thinking of vitaman E, DMSO and Potassium Iodide over night so i can get a great stretch first thing in the morning.

I saw a post where kingsnake tried a few chemicals, just makes sense to me.
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Yeah bro. I was just on thunders reading about DMSO application with certain concoctions people have experimented with. One guy recommended what you were going to try with the iodine and he was having positive results. I messaged a guy who was using magnesium chloride. Apparently scar tissue is basically calcium deposits and the iodine or magnesium helps break this down. Slather one of those two on the penis and then apply DMSO so the compound can go through the skin transdermally and break down the plaque and scar tissue that results from PE, making gains easier to reach.

By reading a lot of guy's methods and how they applied the DMSO concoctions, they reported that their penis were more malleable again and have continued to make gains from their routines. This is a real fucking game changer. Holy shit!

The reason this has peaked my interest is because I am experiencing some negative PI's right now. My base feels like some fibers around that area feel pretty irritated and my penis is kind of turtled and the erect girth has gotten kind of smaller. The urethra near the base is also irritated and it feels like their is a thick sheath of tissue kind of squishing down my girth. That is why I am interested in this.

I used to have a 5.2 mid girth but I think through some inconsistent PE I may have toughened things up which may be prohibiting my true girth. Gonna give this a go with a decondition break and will report back. Still will be on the forums pretty frequently throughout the week.

Awesome. I really hope some of the active members read this. If gains come to a stall, plaque and scar tissue may be the issue.

Theoretically, a guy can keep applying this stuff and can keep making gains indefinitely. Gonna get more info. Peace brothas.
 
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The iodide comment DLD made scared me a bit. Might just stick with DMSO for now. Seeing which one on Amazon I want to order.
 
I don't fully understand the properties of DMSO yet even though I worked with it in organic chemistry. But with simple knowledge, it helps deliver whatever is topically applied on top of the skin to the underlying tissues. We have talked about this in class and I do remember that lol.

There are two options to choose from. Either the iodine or magnesium chloride from what I was reading on thunders for plaque and scar removal. There may be more but I want to work with one of these. The guy with the link you provided makes it look easy. I am gonna give it a go. The other guy was using it on thunders and regained a 0.25 inch of girth from doing this.

Also, I don't think DMSO by itself will do anything to break down scar tissue. You need some sort of concoction of compounds/medicines that have a specific purpose for what you want to do to the underlying tissues. DMSO just delivers them through the skin to the tissues. But who knows, if you try DMSO by itself it could do something. We are the generation that is testing all these methods. Our sons in the future will reap the benefits.

If I was 20 years in the future, I am pretty sure at that point all the optimal methods will be brought into the PE game and we will all have 10x7's like DLD. That is going to be the new average lol. But right now we are the test subjects at this moment in time and we have to go with some empirical data and trust our brothers.
 
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GoodLookingNerd;737572 said:
I don't fully understand the properties of DMSO yet even though I worked with it in organic chemistry. But with simple knowledge, it helps deliver whatever is topically applied on top of the skin to the underlying tissues. We have talked about this in class and I do remember that lol.

There are two options to choose from. Either the iodine or magnesium chloride from what I was reading on thunders for plaque and scar removal. There may be more but I want to work with one of these. The guy with the link you provided makes it look easy. I am gonna give it a go. The other guy was using it on thunders and regained a 0.25 inch of girth from doing this.

Also, I don't think DMSO by itself will do anything to break down scar tissue. You need some sort of concoction of compounds/medicines that have a specific purpose for what you want to do to the underlying tissues. DMSO just delivers them through the skin to the tissues. But who knows, if you try DMSO by itself it could do something. We are the generation that is testing all these methods. Our sons in the future will reap the benefits.

If I was 20 years in the future, I am pretty sure at that point all the optimal methods will be brought into the PE game and we will all have 10x7's like DLD. That is going to be the new average lol. But right now we are the test subjects at this moment in time and we have to go with some empirical data and trust our brothers.
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Maybe we have a few test subjects with similar size and routines try different versions of the ointment. Then we can run our unofficial test over the coming months.
 
bty84;737582 said:
Maybe we have a few test subjects with similar size and routines try different versions of the ointment. Then we can run our unofficial test over the coming months.
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That is always the best way to test anything! Get as many people on board as possible and keep extremely good track of information.
 
Ordered pharmaceutical grade dsmo and vitamin e oil. Should start Thursday.

I haven't been stretching as much this weekend, really struggling with my wrapping. It's an art I haven't mastered.

The wife has enjoyed the gains a ton and won't leave me alone, added side effect I guess :D
[words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Vlc[/words] is on almost constantly so I don't lose gains. Will try again tonight.
 
bty84;737663 said:
Ordered pharmaceutical grade dsmo and vitamin e oil. Should start Thursday.

I haven't been stretching as much this weekend, really struggling with my wrapping. It's an art I haven't mastered.

The wife has enjoyed the gains a ton and won't leave me alone, added side effect I guess :D

[words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Vlc[/words] is on almost constantly so I don't lose gains. Will try again tonight.
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Wrapping is an art and does take time to master. There are many ways to wrap. Have you checked out wrapping forum and wrapping video forum? They both give great direction and much variety.
 
yeah i have watched a few dozen videos of various techniques. nothing is really working for me that's not super painful.

Glad the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is squared away but i dont think that provides enough tension like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] does.

I have been stalled at 7.5 for almost a week now and just today started behind the cheeks rep after every normal rep (i.e. out straight for 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds, to the right 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds) and feel like it's going to be sore tomorrow. Today's wrap was good enough to do an 11pound bundled hang for 3 minutes.

I have to remind myself it's a marathon, that i wont be 10 nbpel overnight.

I am looking forward to my DMSO/Vitamin E concoction starting in the following days, hoping to see how that can help break the plateau :)

Stretch onward brothers!
 
bty84;737736 said:
yeah i have watched a few dozen videos of various techniques. nothing is really working for me that's not super painful.

Glad the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is squared away but i dont think that provides enough tension like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] does.

I have been stalled at 7.5 for almost a week now and just today started behind the cheeks rep after every normal rep (i.e. out straight for 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds, to the right 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds) and feel like it's going to be sore tomorrow. Today's wrap was good enough to do an 11pound bundled hang for 3 minutes.

I have to remind myself it's a marathon, that i wont be 10 nbpel overnight.

I am looking forward to my DMSO/Vitamin E concoction starting in the following days, hoping to see how that can help break the plateau :)

Stretch onward brothers!
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Hey brotha, good to see that you're actually following through with this. College just came around the corner and is kicking my ass with payments so I might delay on the experiment.

I definitely see using these concoctions to help with girth gains big time. Softening hard tissue and ballooning it just makes sense to me. Does Vitamin E have properties that help de-calcify the scar tissue? There is a forum on thunders that talks heavily on many compounds/concoctions that were used and were reported with success. I'll try to find it. Be aware that it is advised to dilute the DMSO if it is higher concentration. The recommended amount is 70% and even with that, I am unaware with the certain amount. I messaged them on thunders as well and no response. WTF.

I'll try to get that link and you'll be able to make sense on how you would want to proceed with this experiment.
 
GoodLookingNerd;737754 said:
Hey brotha, good to see that you're actually following through with this. College just came around the corner and is kicking my ass with payments so I might delay on the experiment.

I definitely see using these concoctions to help with girth gains big time. Softening hard tissue and ballooning it just makes sense to me. Does Vitamin E have properties that help de-calcify the scar tissue? There is a forum on thunders that talks heavily on many compounds/concoctions that were used and were reported with success. I'll try to find it. Be aware that it is advised to dilute the DMSO if it is higher concentration. The recommended amount is 70% and even with that, I am unaware with the certain amount. I messaged them on thunders as well and no response. WTF.

I'll try to get that link and you'll be able to make sense on how you would want to proceed with this experiment.
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DMSO in Peyronie's Therapy - Peyronie's Disease Institute

This link explains how vitamin e helps breaking down fibros tissue
 
doublelongdaddy;737774 said:
Very helpful. I will read this and see where it takes me. I assume they are speaking of pure vitamin e.
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Indeed.

There are two trains of thought, oral vs topical.

I'm choosing to go topical as i have a very specific task/need. I'm ready to see some progress again, hoping this will help me break the plateau
 
GoodLookingNerd;737800 said:
NOICE!!! For sure. Super stoked that brothers are looking into this. I see awesome potential with this method. Keep us posted.

Got my ROP in the mail today. Gonna see if the magic is legit or a waste.
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i eagerly await your review, i'm sure others are looking for your honest feedback as well.
 
bty84;737794 said:
Indeed.

There are two trains of thought, oral vs topical.

I'm choosing to go topical as i have a very specific task/need. I'm ready to see some progress again, hoping this will help me break the plateau
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I would say topical for sure. How would it effect the penis taking it orally? Go right on the skin.
 
Got the DMSO and mixed it with the Vitamin E 3 to 1. still reasearching how to apply it, really dont want to burn myself.

i saw rollers for sale with the dmso, thought the vitamin e came with a dropper. I'll likely just use the dropper and spread the ointment with a cloth or toilet paper.

Stretching continues, i have started moving the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] down farther on my shaft away from the head as my wrapping sucks and hurts the glan. Was able to hang 11lbs for 10 minutes today. Erections have gotten impressive to say the least, though the length seemingly has stalled.
 
bty84;737889 said:
Got the DMSO and mixed it with the Vitamin E 3 to 1. still reasearching how to apply it, really dont want to burn myself.

i saw rollers for sale with the dmso, thought the vitamin e came with a dropper. I'll likely just use the dropper and spread the ointment with a cloth or toilet paper.

Stretching continues, i have started moving the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] down farther on my shaft away from the head as my wrapping sucks and hurts the glan. Was able to hang 11lbs for 10 minutes today. Erections have gotten impressive to say the least, though the length seemingly has stalled.
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Keep us up to date of the DMSO and VitE. If length has stalled I suggest changing the length work up. What are you doing for stretching right now for a routine, specifically. I can help you switch things up.
 
doublelongdaddy;737956 said:
Keep us up to date of the DMSO and VitE. If length has stalled I suggest changing the length work up. What are you doing for stretching right now for a routine, specifically. I can help you switch things up.
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Well it burned like hell the first time :/ this morning was just tingly.

My routine is twice a day.

Bundled: straight out, behind the cheeks, right, btc, left, btc, straight up, btc. (1 set bundled right, 1 bundled left) 30 seconds each

Same routine no bundle.

Hang for 5 minutes bundled left hang for 5 minutes bundled left.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] on super tension for an hour.

Then [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] alternate cock ring for an hour through out the day.

Volume has been great. Just started hanging and easing into more time.
 
Try breaking it up into 5-6 five minute sessions throughout the day and then hang of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 30 mins at the end of the day after all those reps throughout the day.
 
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