Warm up: Flaccid, low pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session. 15 minutes. Very hard kegals to exhaust pelvic floor muscles as much as possible during warm up.

Stretching routine: Using a full fist grip, pull straight out and reverse kegal for ten seconds. Hold fist straight out and pull upward with force. 50 quick kegals. I can usually see the stretch lengthening as I do this. Then move the fist grip hard left and right for ten seconds each while reverse kegalling. Repeat three more times. Then do four more bundled. 8 total stretches.

Reasoning: I'm using a vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in a leg strap. I get plenty of downward and left or right force from that. This short stretching routine is repeated throughout the day. So I feel it provides me with what would otherwise be missing.

Leg strap: Minimum of two hours consecutive, at least four times per day. Each break between sessions has the stretching routine above. I also do the stretching routine after I finish with the leg strap for the day. I try to passively rk as I am wearing it and not kegaling.

Kegals: Besides the 2000 quick kegals involved in the stretching routine, and the attempt to exhaust the pelvic muscles during the warm up, I am also trying kegals at different intensities throughout using the leg strap. I do 100 quick kegals as soon as I attach the leg strap each time. Then I do 100 fast, hard kegals. Then I do 50 long, hard kegals. The reason is that as I kegal, I find that I'm able to move my leg farther away from the base. Effectively creating something fairly close to dld blasters. The efficacy is obviously yet to be determined, but the immediate effect is extremely obvious. So that's 3000 kegals a day, but really, only a couple hundred are the big ones.

Warm down: First I soak for about five minutes to warm things up and rehydrate the glans. Then I do a 20 minute session of edging with a cock ring. Followed by a max pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session for 15 minutes. Then I use a full scrotum ring and wrap lightly with very porous gauz for the night.

And then I wake up and do it all over again. No rest days. Even if I have a tough schedule I at least will use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. And if this gives me no gains I'm going to eat a triple whopper and say screw this horrible uncomfortable crap. I'll just boost my girth to freakish levels instead of going for big and balanced.

WISH ME LUCK IVE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH TO MY ABILITY
 
Damn, this is one hell of a routine, you have plenty of devices, this routine is great brother, do this for couple of months and report the progress, I don't know what else I cans say, good luck!
 
I actually caved and did a measurement of sorts. I know exactly where 8 is on my remote and I'm really just barely not bone pressed. That's the result of the routine before this one which was just extend and warm down.

While that's great I am well overdue to start losing some serious weight. I can seriously push my whole pointer into my fat pad and that's not cool. So less fat food and the treadmill when I have the time.
 
Try and make sure to exercise as well (push ups, pull ups, running) that will cover two things, by exercising you can improve EQ and also lose fat, don't forget your abdominal muscles, especially you can work that lower abdominals by getting on the floor, and start lifting your legs up to 90 degrees, that helped me to strengthen the lower muscles and crush a bit that fat pad.
 
well your workout is so intense that it makes me already feel that you will gain undoubtfully......so many kegels???? holy shit but do keep this in mind that soooo many kegels can make the penis very thick in the middle. the penis muscle will be bigger compared to your shaft size in total....
Also add expressive stretching , SLAMMERS ( how could you miss this pere .....lol) , DLD blasters ,
and you will be in the most perfect length workout :)
 
pogzee;629817 said:
well your workout is so intense that it makes me already feel that you will gain undoubtfully......so many kegels???? holy shit but do keep this in mind that soooo many kegels can make the penis very thick in the middle. the penis muscle will be bigger compared to your shaft size in total....
Also add expressive stretching , SLAMMERS ( how could you miss this pere .....lol) , DLD blasters ,
and you will be in the most perfect length workout :)

My shaft is actually pretty wide already. Totally wouldn't mind beefing up that muscle at all.

I was actually thinking of trying some bare handed expressive stretching. Maybe I'll add some in for the stretching breaks. The other stretching I'm doing is kind of a twist on blasters. So I don't figure on using them. Much inspired by them though.

And I actually hate slammers. I prefer the steady and absurd expansion I get with a great edging session a la cock ring. I know they are potent. But they take too much concentration.
 
Perestroyka;629810 said:
Try and make sure to exercise as well (push ups, pull ups, running) that will cover two things, by exercising you can improve EQ and also lose fat, don't forget your abdominal muscles, especially you can work that lower abdominals by getting on the floor, and start lifting your legs up to 90 degrees, that helped me to strengthen the lower muscles and crush a bit that fat pad.

I don't really think I'll have the energy to go that crazy with working out at first. I'm really not in any kind of shape, and it's bad because I'm usually in at least some kind of shape. Plus, all told, this routine can take up 10 hours of my day to some degree.

I figure starting easy with curls and all that, and using the treadmill as often as I have the time. I used to have an annual routine with push ups and sit ups, lifting, etc and it was just as vigorous as my approach to pe. I tried it once recently and I lost a ton of motion for a week. I do tend to push myself, so who knows. Maybe I just need to shake the rust off for a bit.

I do like the idea of expressive stretching, but I haven't had any success in the past with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] stretching. So I figure on seeing what I can do with my hands. Really can't afford a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. That twist seems interesting though. I've had that same issue forever.
 
You told you wanna lose fat, I just tried to point you in a good way, but I didn't know you got no time for that, look if you are asking me, that time for PE is TOO MUCH, 10 hours? damn Longth rofl
 
Perestroyka;629847 said:
You told you wanna lose fat, I just tried to point you in a good way, but I didn't know you got no time for that, look if you are asking me, that time for PE is TOO MUCH, 10 hours? damn Longth rofl

Well don't get me wrong, I have every intention of getting back to a serious work out. I've just been so lazy that bringing in the groceries has become a workout. Probably shouldn't do squats or leg lifts in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] though. Might rip it clean off.
 
longth......
1. expressive stretching will give you faster gains than stretching the penis........it is accessing something that you already have and all you have to do is pull it out.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...the-missing-link-to-massive-length-gains.html

i think PE takes 1-2 hour maximum but your length workout is very intense for me atleast......

2. weight...
you need to take care of the weight because it will show the hidden penis when the fat pad goes in ....also excessive weight is bad for your overall health in life and not only PE. It effects you blood circulation , and hormonal imbalance of testosterone and estrogen and others too....
start with light cardio and then increase with time......get up early and make time and make changes for your self.
ALL YOU NEED IS MOTIVATION>.....so get that ass moving longth :)
 
Yeeeah, get that ass moving Longth! Don't be lazy, girls crave for good looking big cocked guys, every girl, no matter how is she pretty, when see good looking guy with a bulge, she goes mad! rofl
 
Meh. I have a family.

And it really doesn't stop me from using it all in missionary. I love that slow down too much look though. It'd be nice to scare her a little with it I suppose.
 
Longth;629864 said:
Meh. I have a family.

And it really doesn't stop me from using it all in missionary. I love that slow down too much look though. It'd be nice to scare her a little with it I suppose.

Oh, I didn't now you are older dude.
Look at the bolded part of sentence, I didn't understand it well, can you re-phrase it? rofl
 
The concerned look where she doesn't think she can take anymore. So you nudge, little by little, and watch that slight look of panic and worship until you finally get to the bottom. But you keep going.

Because vaginas stretch with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]

There's also hate fucking which is a cross between please stop and don't stop.

And I'm 30… not 300.
 
perestroyka...even im 22 ...lol
i think we should start a poll on guys who prefer chicks in pain and screaming compared to sweet love....rofl
 
I think [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] moderators should add a chat like on facebook, for better communication between members, but I don't think it's easy to make :)
 
So just a note; I have added in 4 30 second reps of expressive stretching. I basically just pull the whole thing with two hands straight out and rk. Looks weird. Kinda wish I could afford a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] but I get to settle for my own brute force.

Edit; that's 20 stretches that way in total throughout the day.
 
Longth;630024 said:
So just a note; I have added in 4 30 second reps of expressive stretching. I basically just pull the whole thing with two hands straight out and rk. Looks weird. Kinda wish I could afford a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] but I get to settle for my own brute force.

Edit; that's 20 stretches that way in total throughout the day.

ya bro.... even i desparately want that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] .
do expressive stretching for atleast 5 minutes for fast and best result .......i always have a 30-40 % erection level there i get a amazing grip at the base and pull so my hand doesnt slide becuz of dskin .from the place i grip it. grip as deep inside as possible and pull that dick ....
like i said before somewhere.....
ur in a tug of war with your penis....hahahhaha
 
You can also do expressive stretching through entire day brother, after piss usually, or just go to toilet when you feel alright to do that and pull it out, also you can add Sink A stretch, put your flaccid penis on the edge of the sink and grasp below glans with overhand grip, you can increase-decrease intensity with your WEIGHT
 
pogzee;630039 said:
ya bro.... even i desparately want that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] .
do expressive stretching for atleast 5 minutes for fast and best result .......i always have a 30-40 % erection level there i get a amazing grip at the base and pull so my hand doesnt slide becuz of dskin .from the place i grip it. grip as deep inside as possible and pull that dick ....
like i said before somewhere.....
ur in a tug of war with your penis....hahahhaha

Yea, I'm just using one hand to pull all the way out then gripping the extreme base with a towel and tugging like I'm trying to rip it off. It definitely feels like a unique stretch. Pretty good idea to rk when you're doing a monster stretch like that.

Maybe we'll just be lucky through our efforts.
 
Longth;630116 said:
Yea, I'm just using one hand to pull all the way out then gripping the extreme base with a towel and tugging like I'm trying to rip it off. It definitely feels like a unique stretch. Pretty good idea to rk when you're doing a monster stretch like that.

Maybe we'll just be lucky through our efforts.

RK should be done in every stretching session, because you can stretch further and better.
 
Guys any routine is good. Any means any done in the correct way. The point is CONSISTENCY. I am doing PE but still not consistent.

My consistency plan will be [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], jelq, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], clamp and hanging.

Only consistency is the key to PE and no other way.
 
master_mind;630152 said:
Guys any routine is good. Any means any done in the correct way. The point is CONSISTENCY. I am doing PE but still not consistent.

My consistency plan will be [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], jelq, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], clamp and hanging.

Only consistency is the key to PE and no other way.

Yes of course, constistency, willpower, determination and motivation
As for routines, find and work those exercises that you can perform CORRECTLY, and you will gain no matter what!
 
Perestroyka;630157 said:
Yes of course, constistency, willpower, determination and motivation
As for routines, find and work those exercises that you can perform CORRECTLY, and you will gain no matter what!

i think thats what he said and you repeated it ...lol
 
Consistency in any sphere of life arises because of our dreams, necessity or matter of our bread and butter. If some one gets a job for 500 to 850 usd per day to train guys for big PE if he has size of 9x7 I bet he will have the size in 2 years.

If I get that kind of job I would do PE 14 hours a day.
 
pogzee;630161 said:
i think thats what he said and you repeated it ...lol

Yes I am, damn I saw it now that he said exercises should be done correctly, I did not intentionally said that...
Never gonna happen again..
 
Well showing other guys what can they get if they follow a good routine i got into this and i have no money to pay evenso i get a lot of feedback and advice for free:)
 
Well I was getting nowhere with just the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and girth work. This is my attempt at covering all the bases thoroughly. About to double check a measurement I got of 7.85… would be +.35.
 
Longth;630184 said:
Well I was getting nowhere with just the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and girth work. This is my attempt at covering all the bases thoroughly. About to double check a measurement I got of 7.85… would be +.35.

i didnt get what you meant by this ???
 
pogzee;630186 said:
i didnt get what you meant by this ???

This routine is me trying to use all of the strategies I've read here. It's a scatter shot approach that stands a chance at mixing well.

The routine I was using before did nothing. What I am doing now is.
 
Longth;630309 said:
That looks intense. An inch gain is crazy. Maybe you have a guardian cock angel or something.

Why'd you stop? Did you make your goal?

Even with achieved goal, you must cement the gain somehow, maintenance work, or just to add 0.25 on both girth and length then to stop :)
 
Longth;630309 said:
That looks intense. An inch gain is crazy. Maybe you have a guardian cock angel or something.

Why'd you stop? Did you make your goal?

well i had this lump issue from before i started the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] cuz i was doing something incorrectly......after i began i felt the lump was getting worse and started causing me pain so i am on a break for a month and then back on track with PERMANENT gains :)
 
pogzee;630337 said:
well i had this lump issue from before i started the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] cuz i was doing something incorrectly......after i began i felt the lump was getting worse and started causing me pain so i am on a break for a month and then back on track with PERMANENT gains :)

That's rough. I get all kinds of this and that as I go further into length. Girth was so straight forward. Vitamin e aloe vera whatever and no real need for a rest day. Even with an equally intensive strategy. With length I am playing mad scientist with approaches to recovery. Haven't had to stop yet though, so I am at least that good with it.

I actually had an idea for the expressive stretching. I have a "cock lasso" that can be pulled as tight as I need it. I figure on throwing an automotive towel I found on the base to lower discomfort and help grab it better. Those towels work oddly well for gripping stretches. But anyway, it's certainly not going to do all the tricks a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] will, but I'm pretty sure I have a decent and affordable solution for expressive stretching.
 
Longth;630371 said:
I actually had an idea for the expressive stretching. I have a "cock lasso" that can be pulled as tight as I need it. I figure on throwing an automotive towel I found on the base to lower discomfort and help grab it better. Those towels work oddly well for gripping stretches. But anyway, it's certainly not going to do all the tricks a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] will, but I'm pretty sure I have a decent and affordable solution for expressive stretching.

wow, that's great idea man, I never could come up with this
 
Longth;630371 said:
That's rough. I get all kinds of this and that as I go further into length. Girth was so straight forward. Vitamin e aloe vera whatever and no real need for a rest day. Even with an equally intensive strategy. With length I am playing mad scientist with approaches to recovery. Haven't had to stop yet though, so I am at least that good with it.

I actually had an idea for the expressive stretching. I have a "cock lasso" that can be pulled as tight as I need it. I figure on throwing an automotive towel I found on the base to lower discomfort and help grab it better. Those towels work oddly well for gripping stretches. But anyway, it's certainly not going to do all the tricks a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] will, but I'm pretty sure I have a decent and affordable solution for expressive stretching.

well.... do you apply vitamin e aloe vera on penis or consume it orally ???? i have it growing at my place....lol and i eat it......but i have been applying hirudroid cream on the lump.

it would be very kind of you to upload a picture of your cock lasso so we can see and learn and then perform....lol
 
pogzee;630399 said:
well.... do you apply vitamin e aloe vera on penis or consume it orally ???? i have it growing at my place....lol and i eat it......but i have been applying hirudroid cream on the lump.

it would be very kind of you to upload a picture of your cock lasso so we can see and learn and then perform....lol

I have it in a lotion type of deal. Right now it's all about rapid recovery in the glans.

The cock lasso is on amazon for 5 bucks. Literally is called a cock lasso. It's name is probably the only reason I actually thought to do that. But it's really extremely self explanatory as far as the stretching goes. I do think a high [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] soft towel should be used for comfort and consistency.
 
Try and make sure to exercise as well (push ups, pull ups, running) that will cover two things, by exercising you can improve EQ and also lose fat, don't forget your abdominal muscles, especially you can work that lower abdominals by getting on the floor, and start lifting your legs up to 90 degrees, that helped me to strengthen the lower muscles and crush a bit that fat pad.

Thanks for the post. I didn't know that exercising will help improve erection quality. Thanks for this info.
 
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Try and make sure to exercise as well (push ups, pull ups, running) that will cover two things, by exercising you can improve EQ and also lose fat, don't forget your abdominal muscles, especially you can work that lower abdominals by getting on the floor, and start lifting your legs up to 90 degrees, that helped me to strengthen the lower muscles and crush a bit that fat pad.
Deadlifts are also good. When you deadlift you suck up your balls (you do practically a kegel) and brace your abdominal muscles, then you lift.
 
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