Major Girth Gain Solution

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BaddJack

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ULI + Extreme Pumping = ++ Gains in Girth

My story and methods of how I achieved significant gains in length and girth are noted in my other posts.

My starting girth over 30 years ago was about 4.5 inches, I considered it a pencil dick, i.e., is it in yet.

My starting stats were 6.0 BPEL, 4.5 girth

I am currently at 8.5 BPEL, 6.0 glans, 7.0 mid, 8.0+ base.

For the past week I have researched several website forums on PE and have come to a better understanding about how I got to my current stats.

The initial gains in length and girth came from what I have discovered is called "ULI".

I initially utilized any type of home made adjustable cock strap to trap the blood flow into the penis at the base of the shaft. I then forced, by a milking action below the strap, as much blood as possible into the engorged penis. Eventually the head becomes hard and glossy and the shaft will stretch to its upper limits once the tunica is beyond rock hard.

This exercise causes significant discoloration, and if over done capillary bleeding at the tip of the glans. I can't remember how many years it's been since I last saw the natural color of my penis, as well as the true flaccid length.

About 24 months ago I started using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for short periods of time and high tension. The BPEL went from 6.75 BPEL to 7.5 BPEL, 5.0 mid girth. All the while I continued my ULI exercises.

Over the past 12 months I began off and on low vacuum pressure pumping, combined with the use of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] from 6.75 BPEL to 7.5 BPEL, 5.0 glans, 5.5 mid, 6.5 base by June of 2013.

For the past 4 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] I was off and on exercising, resulting in 8.0 BPEL, 5.0 glans, 6.0 mid, 7.0 base.

Essential my largest gains have been achieved in the past month, with a combination of high (over -15 Hg) vacuum pressure for short periods of time followed by extreme ULI exercises, 2X per day, resulting in my current 8.5 BPEL, 6.0 glans, 7.0 mid, 8.0 base.

While pumping, the tip gets to the 8.8+ mark on the tube, and when released goes back to 8.5.

My goal is 10.5 BPEL, 6.5 glans, 7.0 mid, 8.0 base.

Over time I quickly outgrew a 1.75" diam. cylinder and went to a 12"x2.5".
I will next be using a 2.25" diam. cylinder to prevent any addition girth at the base and mid shaft, while allowing for elongation and glans expansion.
 
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Great gains. it sounds like your length work had a good deal to do with your girth gains since it looked like ur girth stayed the same. What do you think?
 
To summarize my gains, in the last 12 months I have gone from 7.5 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL, and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

From January of 2014 to April, I went from 7.5 BPEL to 8.0 BPEL and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 5.0/6.0/7.0 in girth.

From April until last week, I went from 8.0 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL and from 5.0/6.0/7.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

The gains in BPEL and girth pretty much evened out over the past 12 months.

The use of the extreme exercises more frequently over the past month have accelerated the rate of gain dramatically.

It seems that the additional time that I have been able to put into my routine oner the past month is the primary reason why I have accelerated the rate of gain.

Hence my original posting, requesting advice on how to gain length but not girth, since I have achieved my target girth.
 
BaddJack;581788 said:
To summarize my gains, in the last 12 months I have gone from 7.5 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL, and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

From January of 2014 to April, I went from 7.5 BPEL to 8.0 BPEL and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 5.0/6.0/7.0 in girth.

From April until last week, I went from 8.0 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL and from 5.0/6.0/7.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

The gains in BPEL and girth pretty much evened out over the past 12 months.

The use of the extreme exercises more frequently over the past month have accelerated the rate of gain dramatically.

It seems that the additional time that I have been able to put into my routine oner the past month is the primary reason why I have accelerated the rate of gain.

Hence my original posting, requesting advice on how to gain length but not girth, since I have achieved my target girth.
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Ok cool. So extreme girth work with probably some intense length work added in is what caused these major gains.
 
BaddJack;581788 said:
To summarize my gains, in the last 12 months I have gone from 7.5 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL, and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

From January of 2014 to April, I went from 7.5 BPEL to 8.0 BPEL and from 5.0/5.5/6.0 to 5.0/6.0/7.0 in girth.

From April until last week, I went from 8.0 BPEL to 8.5 BPEL and from 5.0/6.0/7.0 to 6.0/7.0/8.0 in girth.

The gains in BPEL and girth pretty much evened out over the past 12 months.

The use of the extreme exercises more frequently over the past month have accelerated the rate of gain dramatically.

It seems that the additional time that I have been able to put into my routine oner the past month is the primary reason why I have accelerated the rate of gain.

Hence my original posting, requesting advice on how to gain length but not girth, since I have achieved my target girth.
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You went from 5,5 MSEG to 7 MSEG within 4-5 months (January to May)?? That is insane and I must admit that I have a hard time to believe it though you appear as a sincere and authentic person. Also: if you made all your gains in the last 24 months and most of them only in the last months then what have done in the 28 years before? It would imply that over a very long course your PE efforts were absolutely inefficient and then ridiculously efficient? Can you shed some light on this?
 
Prior to the past 24 month period, and the beginning of my use of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my only real PE effort was using an adjustable cock band to engorge my penis during sex.
 
Satyr;581807 said:
You went from 5,5 MSEG to 7 MSEG within 4-5 months (January to May)?? That is insane and I must admit that I have a hard time to believe it though you appear as a sincere and authentic person. Also: if you made all your gains in the last 24 months and most of them only in the last months then what have done in the 28 years before? It would imply that over a very long course your PE efforts were absolutely inefficient and then ridiculously efficient? Can you shed some light on this?
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I absolutely repeat that post :)
 
ah, ok, that explains a lot though your gains made in the last two years and especially in the last months still are close to inconceivable. How many hours have spent on your exercises per day?
 
I've spent well over three hours per day nonstop for the past 4 weeks, hence the extreme discoloration.

I'm going to have to take a break and do some healing.
 
BaddJack;581811 said:
I've spent well over three hours per day nonstop for the past 4 weeks, hence the extreme discoloration.

I'm going to have to take a break and do some healing.
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Interesting. How much more time has it been this last month than before?
 
Fatigue has never been a problem.

Having reached my target girth, I need to avoid the extreme exercises which would induce more expansion.
In my latest ULIs, I was reaching 6.5 glans, 7.5 mid, but that was while under the extreme engorged condition.

My new 2.25 inch cylinder should be arriving this week.
Then I can concentrate on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and pumping to induce length gains.

Jan to Apr this year I was exercising generally once per week.

Prior to that the exercising was less frequent.
 
you trained just once per week for about 3 hours? Then - in the light of a 6-day-recovery phase on a reg. basis - it's not surprising that you haven't fatigued heavily but also that you've gained that much with only workout day a week. In sum I also train for about 2-3 hours per week, but divided into 4-6 units. I wonder if such a heavy overloading combined with long recovery phases is the way to go (reminds of HIT with respect to bodybuilding). . But maybe or indeed most probably it's also a matter of individual predispositions.

Edit: this is really interesting because recently I experimented a bit with different schemes of work and recovery (with particularly surprising results) and also I like the thought of training only once a week. On the other hand I' have serious problems to find a day that would allow me to conduct such a long workout. Maybe split into two days it could work.
 
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Satyr;581816 said:
you trained just once per week for about 3 hours? Then - in the light of a 6-day-recovery phase on a reg. basis - it's not surprising that you haven't fatigued heavily but also that you've gained that much with only workout day a week. In sum I also train for about 2-3 hours per week, but divided into 4-6 units. I wonder if such a heavy overloading combined with long recovery phases is the way to go (reminds of HIT with respect to bodybuilding). . But maybe or indeed most probably it's also a matter of individual predispositions.

Edit: this is really interesting because recently I experimented a bit with different schemes of work and recovery (with particularly surprising results) and also I like the thought of training only once a week. On the other hand I' have serious problems to find a day that would allow me to conduct such a long workout. Maybe split into two days it could work.
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... I thought he said he was doing 3 hour workouts daily?
 
Sometimes it's hard to follow Jack's somehow erratic reports. But after rereading the posts above I understand that he trained only once per week from Jan to April (when he made his biggest gains) but without giving a concrete number of the duration, while for the last four weeks he has been training three hours daily. Still confusing...
 
What exactly has the routine and time spent been during your entire time training?
 
My recollection of my exercise routines is my current best guess.

There are multiple events simultaneously occurring in my life, related to a new house, selling my old house, moving and hospitalization and rehab for my spouse.

The health concerns are why I have been able to dedicate so much time to exercising.

Everything is going well, and my move will happen in about a week.
It should be a great year, once my family is fully reunited and I no longer will be separated for work reasons.

Thanks,

BJ
 
My mind this AM is just clearing after my third cup of coffee.

The past four weeks my exercise routine has been morning and evening for a minimum 30 minute sessions.
That equates to over seven hours of exercising per week.

There were some days that I would go for four 30 minute sessions.

I believe my unit felt fatigue at that point, but cheap beer and wine dulled the feeling.
 
BaddJack;581844 said:
My mind this AM is just clearing after my third cup of coffee.

The past four weeks my exercise routine has been morning and evening for a minimum 30 minute sessions.
That equates to over seven hours of exercising per week.

There were some days that I would go for four 30 minute sessions.

I believe my unit felt fatigue at that point, but cheap beer and wine dulled the feeling.
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But before that (January to April) you just did 3 hours on one day per week and achieved your biggest gains with that? Did i get that right?
 
As I said, my recollection of events is a little blurred.

After the coffee, I can better say that the three hours on one day per week is incorrect.

I can recall a typical pumping and ULI session once per week lasting about two hours, including short rest periods.
When possible, at work I would wear an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on a loose tension for about an hour, about three days a week.

Also when possible, I would wear either a clamp or collar for several hours at a time, maintaining a semi.

I apologize for the confusion, as I do not have any set routine and do not keep a log.
There have been several mis-statements, but my biggest gains have come in the past four weeks, with my extreme pumping and ULI routine, typically 2X per day, every day.

My mind is now focusing on my upcoming move, spring gardening and saltwater fishing the NE.
 
ok man i assume you dont lie about gains
i got question for your routine
so you basicly pump 1 set do uli 1 set and repeat that 2 times so that means x2 pumping sets and x2 ulis 2 times per day?

how much ulis you do in 1 set do you squeeze and push 5 times like original uli guy did or you squeeze and push 10 times before leaving grip

and question about pumping
so you go to high pressure for how long 5 minutes or 10?
do you repump during that time or you instantly hit high pressure and just wait entire set to end on that pressure?also do you have errection constantly while in the pump?
i assume you do cause you pump on high pressure
when i pump on low pressure i get no full erection but my semi errect penis CREEP up from normal lenght 8.5 inches to 24cm or 9 n something inches after some time and its still semi errect and then when i exit the pump its 8 inches flacid for some time

by readin alot of posts about pumping i guess thats the proper way to pump cause if you got constantly max erection in pump you are doing nottin tunica is locked to the max and cant expand and glans can enlarge to insane proportions but that is not true lenght

and fluid is gona come no matter what you do fluid is just way for penis helping himself to fill the empty space once tunca is streched to the max or is gona burst out
ps i use to pump with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] but to much hustle with water and the way of pumping is completely retarded they should figure out some way to pump with hand pump that also pumps out water and that rubber looks like poison
 
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Viktorking;581868 said:
ok man i assume you dont lie about gains
i got question for your routine
so you basicly pump 1 set do uli 1 set and repeat that 2 times so that means x2 pumping sets and x2 ulis 2 times per day?

My pumping is repeated steps until I no longer see elongation gains.
After a brief rest I ULI until my penis is engorged to the point of a glossy head and bo further neck stretching.
It is a much greater effort than the ULIs described on various sites.

Over the last month I have been able to do 2X per day sets.
Previous 4 months was about one set per week, with weekday cock collar and extension exercises.


how much ulis you do in 1 set do you squeeze and push 5 times like original uli guy did or you squeeze and push 10 times before leaving grip

My exercise is not the classic ULI.
I created it myself and it basically involves engorging the penis to beyond its maximum, forcing stretching and growth, but results in major discoloration.


and question about pumping
so you go to high pressure for how long 5 minutes or 10?

My pumping routine is described in previous posts.
I gradually pump in roughly 3 minute cycles until I no longer see elongation.
At this stage the vacuum pressure necessary to get to this point is over 15 inches Hg.

do you repump during that time or you instantly hit high pressure and just wait entire set to end on that pressure?also do you have errection constantly while in the pump?

I repump as often as possible.
If I did not repump I would suffer blistering and the donut effect.


i assume you do cause you pump on high pressure
when i pump on low pressure i get no full erection but my semi errect penis CREEP up from normal lenght 8.5 inches to 24cm or 9 n something inches after some time and its still semi errect and then when i exit the pump its 8 inches flacid for some time

by readin alot of posts about pumping i guess thats the proper way to pump cause if you got constantly max erection in pump you are doing nottin tunica is locked to the max and cant expand and glans can enlarge to insane proportions but that is not true lenght

I have had some glans improvement, but nothing extraordinary even at my extreme levels.


and fluid is gona come no matter what you do fluid is just way for penis helping himself to fill the empty space once tunca is streched to the max or is gona burst out
ps i use to pump with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] but to much hustle with water and the way of pumping is completely retarded they should figure out some way to pump with hand pump that also pumps out water and that rubber looks like poison
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The fluid retention and extreme pumping at frequent intervals is why I can not get a true length and girth measurement.

Any photos that I have posted show this effect.
 
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what you describe here sounds more to me like a clamping workout. with a pumping action beneath the clamp. which makes sence. you pump more blood into the penis while cosing off the exit. a combination of clamping and jelqing if you may. hardcore exercise indeed,

gz on the results. and if you havent look at the clamping forum.... boy you will love it.
 
You may have found a better way to describe my efforts to date.

I am new to the terminology and have essentially done all of my efforts based primarily on my own understanding of the human anatomy.

BJ
 
BaddJack I have a similar type of thing going on with my gains. I took quite a while off from PE because of personal things going on im life.
I was water pumping with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] and using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and doing manual jelquing before my time of PE.
I do rough PE and take things really far. I know there are lot's of warnings that you can over do things and make a "tougher" penis but I ignored those warnings and I got really good gains quickly. I'm not recommending doing that but I'm just sharing that that's what I did.
Then I took a while off PE and I was surprised when I took my measurements when I started again that my earlier gains were cemented.

So I have just recently gotten back into the PE again and I have been going at it very hard. I have been clamping, jelquing, wet and dry pumping, and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching. I also wear a cock ring all day in between my PE exercises.
I can't believe how my penis is reacting to it. Like you I don't know what my truly flaccid measurement is right now cause I am always stretched and pumped up. The closest I see my true flaccid size is first thing in the morning.
I also added the wine vac mod to my pump and the pump pressure is incredible and I am getting an extra .5 to .75" more length pump out of my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] now with the mod.
When I first got my pump and was new to PE I was pumping up to in between 6 to 6.5". I am now pumping inbetween 7 and 7.5" in it every time and my girth in it is nuts. I haven't measured my pumped girth at the base yet but I think it muse be around 7" if I had to guess. I did measure my flaccid girth the other day first thing in the morning and it was 5.75"
The clamping and extra pressured dry and wet pumping has boosted my girth like crazy and actually it's the length I want more.
I just ordered an LG Hanger so can't wait for that.

So what I'm trying to say is I agree with you. I have always gone very hard with my PE and I have also had bruises, swellings in different places on my shaft, and a blister on my glands from the strenuous PE i've been doing but I am loving the results.

I also wear ball stretchers while doing my PE to help keep the scrotum down and out of the way and it also helps with keeping away the natural turtling effect of the penis in between PE sets.

Whatever works for us is what we gotta stick with. I've gotten my routine from a whole mix and match bunch of guys programs on this forum so all the info helps we just gotta try and see for ourselves what suits our penis's best I think.
 
ThickForSure;581881 said:
Whatever works for us is what we gotta stick with. I've gotten my routine from a whole mix and match bunch of guys programs on this forum so all the info helps we just gotta try and see for ourselves what suits our penis's best I think.
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That is the awesomeness of the forum, we have thousands of men with many different methods that we can try. With all the success here it is hard to fail.
 
Love the name ThickForSure

My wife is now out of rehab, but no action for a while.

I caught her glancing at my bulge a few times, but no comments.

I can't wait for her reaction at the unveiling.
 
BaddJack;581920 said:
Love the name ThickForSure

My wife is now out of rehab, but no action for a while.

I caught her glancing at my bulge a few times, but no comments.

I can't wait for her reaction at the unveiling.
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Drum Roll
 
BigBeardBig;682571 said:
Are there any measured pics brother ?
Purely for motivation what can one achieve.
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I never took earlier photos, my photography skills hopefully will improve.
 
Another white man with black guys dick lol, this time literally.

Also I think the major discoloration will fade if you stop pumping for few weeks. Do you think not ?
What are your measurement cold if you stop pumping for few days, still same ?
 
It will take several days for the plump to go down.

It doesn't shrink back enough to require tweezers to fish it out.

I can barely pull it through an empty toilet paper roll when flaccid, the base is too wide.

Lengthwise I'd say 5.5.
 
The colour looks pretty natural to me, pretty equal to the legs skin colour.
YOu said you didnt see your dick in natural colours in years, but as I said I think it does.

I dont know how about you but hairs when pumping cause me some pain, you tried pumping compeltely shaved ?
It allows me to pump to higher pressure.
 
BigBeardBig;682642 said:
The colour looks pretty natural to me, pretty equal to the legs skin colour.
YOu said you didnt see your dick in natural colours in years, but as I said I think it does.

I dont know how about you but hairs when pumping cause me some pain, you tried pumping compeltely shaved ?
It allows me to pump to higher pressure.
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I've never shaved, when pumping I pull back any pubes so that I maximize skin/tube contact.

My little fella likes to take a drink while I sit on a toilet, gotta rest it on the seat to keep it clean.
 
BaddJack;682652 said:
My little fella likes to take a drink while I sit on a toilet, gotta rest it on the seat to keep it clean.
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Hahahahahahhahaaa
The elephant just wants a drink of water. Nice gains and the knowledge you brought is very helpful.
 
How severe is your discoloration? And is it even over the whole unit, just the top 75% or stripes/rings? How much darker is it than your forearm?
 
The discoloration is mild, and it is the whole unit after the constriction point.
 
How many clamps do you use jack? It would seem like a few since the heavy taper. Do you place them closely or how far apart?
 
BigBeardBig;682722 said:
I believe the gains would go down a bit, but probably not much.
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I've always been curious if badjackks method was implemented by more PE members. Would probably raise the bar on what's possible.
 
BigBeardBig;682741 said:
When Im done with my frenulum tying, Im gonna do some extreme pumping tests.
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Are you taking pictures as you go?
 
doublelongdaddy;682781 said:
Are you taking pictures as you go?
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Yes, Im taking pics from day 1, only for my personal reasons and my own album, wont post it tho.
If people wont believe my results thats fine, I dont need to prove myself to anybody and I know the truth :)
 
You can't handle the truth. Haha
As long as you know and can prove it at any time with pictures, who cares. You don't have to show if you don't want to.
 
BigBeardBig;682831 said:
Yes, Im taking pics from day 1, only for my personal reasons and my own album, wont post it tho.
If people wont believe my results thats fine, I dont need to prove myself to anybody and I know the truth :)
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I never said post it, I said take progress pictures to see the amazing growth. In most cases, where men keep a photo journal going, end up posting the pictures once they have made their big goal. I understand not posting pictures and I stopped years ago. I have one thread with a collection of my pictures through the years. Once Jen, my ex left, I decided I no longer wanted to have my dick be public.
 
doublelongdaddy;682895 said:
I never said post it, I said take progress pictures to see the amazing growth. In most cases, where men keep a photo journal going, end up posting the pictures once they have made their big goal. I understand not posting pictures and I stopped years ago. I have one thread with a collection of my pictures through the years. Once Jen, my ex left, I decided I no longer wanted to have my dick be public.
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Yeah I keep the pics from day 1, take another with every next measurement. Who know, maybe I will end up posting online once I reach my goal.
 
BigBeardBig;682965 said:
Yeah I keep the pics from day 1, take another with every next measurement. Who know, maybe I will end up posting online once I reach my goal.
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For me it was hard to take those beginning pictures of my weight loss. The first shots I looked like shit but as time went on and I started to look better and better I started to get excited about showing the world. I did it with my penis and it inspired millions, hopefully my weight loss will inspire others.
 
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