My dick is softer than EVER since the last 3 days and even though they probably stretch the same amount (probably, neve rreally measured carefully), they seem much more elastic when pulling...Is this a sign of length gain or what?
 
Max, not only the skin, but the whole penis is softt and spongy when I'm flaccid...and the skin is pretty messed up...rough and unequal on every sides..and when I get erection I see spots (little dot type of thing)..
 
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Sounds like you've overdone it a bit.
Either a little too much force or a little too long of a session; anything new in your routine?
Anything new in your life?

Anything from extra hours at work to fightin' off the flu that's kikkin' half the country's ass.

The little red dots are most likely burst capillaries, nothing major to worry about.
Rough skin, might just need a halfway decent moisturizer, Aveeno, Renew, something like that.

And as for the whole deflation effect; again, that could be due to any kind of added stress in your life.
Take a look at what y'do and how you do it and see if you might have added anything into the mix that you might not immediately recognize as a stress-factor.

And, everybody benefits from a little time off; yes you can overtrain your penis.
If you need a little extra recovery time, take it.
Maybe not a complete break, just a reduction in session length, intensity or both for a while.

helpseeker;527354 said:
Max, not only the skin, but the whole penis is softt when I'm flaccid...and the skin is pretty messed up...rough and unequal on every sides..and when I get erection I see spots (little dot type of thing)..
 
This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
 
Max, I can't determine whether I overtrained or not..but notihng new in life..I have no stress at all except mental stress...I've been home for bout 3 weeks and will be for 2 more weeks..
I constantly think about having a 7 inch NBPenis EnlargementL penis in 6 months (of course better overnight but thats impossible) and all the things I'd do with my above average dick (I'm 5" erect, sometimes less by the way although when I measure sitting down I get 5.3", 5.5", or 5.7")..Hell, I even pray to god every night about this even though I am not even that much of a believer. So you know how important it is to me to get 7 inches ..
I do have to say I've been masturbating once or twice a day for the last 20-25 days..that's to not get wet while sleeping because I get often dreams in 2 days if I don't jack off..
so nothing's been new except I've started jelqing 4 days ago couple hrs after my length routine...I do the beginners routine a little differently.
I hold a strech for 1:30 minutes and just do 1 set (instead of doing 3 sets of 30 seconds)..Although sometmes I do less than 1:30 or slightly more than 1:30 because of gripping problems and etc.
I do about taking a break as I know I'm probably going off limits because sometimes say I try to hold a BTC stretch for 1:30 minutes and I can only hold it for 45 seconds, I'll try holding again for 1:30 minutes and not the other half...because I wanna gain as fast...I understand the risk of overtraining and injuring... thank you. and tell me what you think I should do...I'm a REAL IMPATIENT guy but I have no choice but to hold on to it...and surprisingly, this is the ONLY thing I'm holding on to for this long even without seeing proof of any gains on my dick...


Mike, I forgot to mention I don't have the jelly state the whole day...I don't usually have it while doing Penis Enlargement...usually after Penis Enlargement..Whaddaya say? should I wait for the jelly state and then do Penis Enlargement?

Thanks to both of you.
 
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I've been at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for about 7 years now, and this is the first time I've heard of the "jelly state"
Who is "they"?
And why is this particular state coveted?

MikeShlort;527366 said:
This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
 
Don't wait for anything, just do Penis Enlargement regularly.

More importantly, your mental attitude is shit and will hinder your gains. You have to let go and just accept the fact that you probably won't gain 2" in 6 months. I had the same mentality when I started Penis Enlargement. It caused me to over train, waste time and gain fuck all. I've let go of having to reach a certain size and my dick has never been bigger.

You have to be okay with the fact that you will need to do Penis Enlargement for years before you are as big as you want to get to. The beauty of it is, along the way, you will become more accepting of yourself. At first, you will notice improved EQ and some initial size. That will motivate you to continue. But you have to stick it out. Do your research, keep up on your exercise, don't skip days. Try to cut out jerking off if you can. It's my theory that daily masturbation causes the penis to be small and weak and may even hurt gains.

The main thing is you need to look at it like jogging, just a daily physical maintenance program that has the purpose of keeping you healthy and slowly making you stronger and able to endure more. In the case of Penis Enlargement, it is slowly making your penis stronger, larger and able to endure more.

Read my thread. I've done a lot of research and hopefully I've cleared up a lot of things you may be confused about. The most important thing to remember is I started with a similar mind state as you. I thought I needed 2" before I could even speak to a woman. Now I realize if I had the size I wanted, sex for me wouldn't be as good with the majority of girls. Just stick with it and stop being so hung up on the end result. Keep it as a goal and focus but remember that self improvement of any kind takes a daily effort and isn't noticed until you've been at it for long enough that you don't think about it or worry about it much at all anymore.
 
MAXAMEYES;527378 said:
I've been at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for about 7 years now, and this is the first time I've heard of the "jelly state"
Who is "they"?
And why is this particular state coveted?

Ask Fedora, the big gainer with picture proof, about the "jelly state". Or do some research. I think I've heard King Cobra (1.8" EL gained) use the term before also.
 
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helpseeker,
Easiest way to determine if you've overtrained is to cut back about 50% or so, or even take a complete break for a coupla days and see if yer dick gets better.

Can't help too much, directly anyways, on the impatience thang...except to hammer home the point that Penis Enlargement is a long term endeavour.
You simply cannot rush it. You just can't.
Read the second half of my sig, it never goes out of style.
 
Thanks for the help and info both of you..
Mike, I see your point there but what size did you start with and what size are you now? You certainly are not a 5 incher and in this world you are nothing without a good sized dick...by the way how long you think it'll take me atleast to get to 7? a year? 2 years? DLD got it done in 6 months maybe, just MAYBE I could too you know? and so could someeone else...I basically try to make myself feel good but just don't seem to work...and of course I'll do it until I see my ultimate goal 7-8 inches NBP, just hope that I get it in 6 months you know I have plans after 6 months lol...

Max, I know what you mean but what do you mean gets better? like how is it supposed to be when better?
yes I know Penis Enlargement is for the long run...
 
From an old post of fedora's:
(The phrases "jelly state" and "jelly stage" are not part of the "official" [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] glossary, simply a description of the malleable condition he found his penis maintaining from constant stretching.)

new stretched pic without a ruler. One of my new goals is to be able to perform a DLD 3hander as the legend himself does in the pe videos forum.
My member have the last couple of weeks felt more like jelly, a state because of all the stretching. I´m starting to think that this jelly state is a good sign when it comes to length gaining. It´s like it never really heals because of all the stretching. I wish I could describe this jelly feeling better but I hope you understand what I mean.
I have now decided to not measure my nbpel or bpel before I reach 24 cm in bpfls. I hope my el catches up with my new bpfls gains soon.




MikeShlort;527366 said:
This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
 
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That explains it perfectly. I've heard other members use the term, not just at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Either way, the point should be taken that Fedora encouraged me to stretch when I was in the jelly state, and told me that he gained a significant amount of length doing DLD blasters while stretching in this state
 
helpseeker;527384 said:
Thanks for the help and info both of you..
Mike, I see your point there but what size did you start with and what size are you now? You certainly are not a 5 incher and in this world you are nothing without a good sized dick...by the way how long you think it'll take me atleast to get to 7? a year? 2 years? DLD got it done in 6 months maybe, just MAYBE I could too you know? and so could someeone else...I basically try to make myself feel good but just don't seem to work...and of course I'll do it until I see my ultimate goal 7-8 inches NBP, just hope that I get it in 6 months you know I have plans after 6 months lol...

Max, I know what you mean but what do you mean gets better? like how is it supposed to be when better?
yes I know Penis Enlargement is for the long run...

I started around 6.5" but felt as though anything under 8" could not pleasure a woman. I wouldn't even talk to girls because of it. So I was in the exact same mind state as you are in, regardless of starting size. I had plans for my "new size" too, but I realized it's just stupid and now I don't base my life on how big my penis is. Took awhile, though. Well over a year.

What is your intent? To fuck as many women as possible? You don't need a big dick for that, just social connections, good people skills and good looks help. A big dick can help spread the rumour you are hung if you intend on fucking girls of the same social circle, but as far as random pick ups it's not that important.Are you wanting a real relationship with a woman? Penis size is important, but if you're with a woman who cares enough about sex to leave you for a bigger dick, you're better off alone. I've recently realized that normal girls, yes they love sex, but are looking for something else. The ones with lower back tattoos, low self esteem and no values are the ones who just want to have a good time, all the time.

I recently had sex with a woman who said I was by far the biggest she's had, but since my technique was awful, I didn't make her cum and she said it was some of the worst sex she's ever had. A guy with the penis the size of my index finger was able to make her cum. She kept talking about emotional connection, and saying that it was too forced, that it seemed like I had an agenda, that it was too mechanical, I was trying to rush it, being too impatient... All things I've never even considered when it came to sex. All I thought was big dick + hard fucking = what women want. Seems to not be the case, now I'm more concerned with "how do I get in situations where I am meeting girls and getting to form a connection with them" rather than before when it was just "I'll make my dick x size, then I'll go and fuck tons of girls". It doesn't work that way. Unless you're in high school.

I suggest you keep up on Penis Enlargement, go slowly, start with low force/tension so you aren't setting the bar too high with force required to make gains, use gradually increasing force and just take your mind off having to get to a certain size before you are able to fuck and have a life. That's stupid. That's how I thought, but that was only because I had been a drug addict for nearly 10 years, starting in my mid teens, so I was severely mentally and emotionally stunted.

Yes, a big dick on a guy that knows how to use it is important, but all you can do is properly do the exercises, talk to women, have experiences and stop being such a pussy. I imagine a girl would rather fuck a guy with 5" and self confidence/respect than a guy with 6.5" who hates himself and won't look at a woman because he's not 8".
 
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Lol you started with a 6.5"..I wishhhh I started even with a 6 inch..How are you supposed to have self respect with a 5? I just don't understand lol..and I have many intentions..yes in the beginning I want to fuck as many chicks as possible and also enjoy doing it and yes I want chicks to know and think I got a big one before and after I fuck them so they tell others about me and I basically want to be known to have a bigger than average one in length of course...and then I know this girl that I'm interested in, unfortunately she thinks I have a big one (I didn't talk about my size, she just assumed I do). I don't know if she likes a big one or not but I want to actually present a big one to her so then she KNOWS I have a big one and stay satisfied.. I am in high school...and I have done almost every single drug there is, quite regularly...Penis Enlargement is a great thing, ever since I started I stopped doing drugs, even smoking cigarettes that I started when 10..Also I'm 17 and I usually hang out with the most popular kids at school and I always hear them bragging about fucking random chicks at parties and etc and I just have to lsiten and stay quiet about all this...
 
It's so hard to not do the things I am used to doing because I think about them every single day...And I don't even go out much because I see soemone smoking I need to go get smoeks...
 
hepcat;527483 said:
You've come a long way Michael Schlorty Pants. I'm proud of you. Even if the sex with that one girl wasn't good she didn't have to go telling you how bad you were. That's fucked up. Bitch! I felt the same way as you about having to be a certain size. I started at 6.75" BPenis EnlargementL and 6" NBPenis EnlargementL. Now my length is only 6 and 1/8" NBPenis EnlargementL but my BPenis EnlargementL has gone up to 7 and 1/8". I'm just waiting for the NBPenis EnlargementL to catch up. After reading your posts I see I am missing out on life waiting to reach a certain goal size I deem as necessary. I know I probably already asked you this but was your starting size 6.5" BPenis EnlargementL or NBPenis EnlargementL and what was your starting girth? What are your current stats? Are you gonna get another chance with that chick and see if you can't make her cum this time?

I take it all back, all women are filthy cock sluts with infinite holes. They need at least 9x7 for them to feel a tickle. Fuck them.

I started out around 6.5 NBPenis EnlargementL x 5.4 MEG. A lot of getting to 7" was due to increased EQ. Right now I'm probably 7NBPx5.75MEG but it sure feels like I've gained more. I wake up with a swinging flaccid (compared to what it was) and my erection seems long. I owe most of that to hanging. What a great, logical way to do Penis Enlargement.

I asked her how it was so she's not a bitch for being honest. I was close to making her cum, but my technique is sloppy. It's not as easy as it looks on the internet.

Maybe try losing body fat and your penis will look bigger. I'm going to post some comparison pictures on my thread tonight or in the next couple days showing my body and penis size before and after, going through all the various cycles of having to bigger in some way.

Also, I suggest starting to hang. Depending on your skin exit point and LOT, you may very well be able to gain 2" relatively easily. You gotta be patient and persistent though, take the time to go slow and do it right. Took me over a month to learn how to attach properly. I am finally just starting to reach noticeable fatigue after 2.5 months. You will notice a bigger, looser flaccid and better EQ at first, which I am now. I believe that is the first stop before gain town.

As far as getting out and enjoying life - do it. Any friends you may have or old friends you knew from high school - contact them. Even if you didn't care for them so much, use them for the social connections to meet people/girls you like. Just try to have dirty sex with a girl and get feedback from her. Just be honest, tell her what your issues are and that you are into Penis Enlargement and whatnot and get her to help you out. She'll be able to give you advice that none of us guys can.
 
helpseeker;527418 said:
Lol you started with a 6.5"..I wishhhh I started even with a 6 inch..How are you supposed to have self respect with a 5? I just don't understand lol..and I have many intentions..yes in the beginning I want to fuck as many chicks as possible and also enjoy doing it and yes I want chicks to know and think I got a big one before and after I fuck them so they tell others about me and I basically want to be known to have a bigger than average one in length of course...and then I know this girl that I'm interested in, unfortunately she thinks I have a big one (I didn't talk about my size, she just assumed I do). I don't know if she likes a big one or not but I want to actually present a big one to her so then she KNOWS I have a big one and stay satisfied.. I am in high school...and I have done almost every single drug there is, quite regularly...Penis Enlargement is a great thing, ever since I started I stopped doing drugs, even smoking cigarettes that I started when 10..Also I'm 17 and I usually hang out with the most popular kids at school and I always hear them bragging about fucking random chicks at parties and etc and I just have to lsiten and stay quiet about all this...

I could tell you were young by how you spoke. Ya, not fucking in high school sucks, I'll admit you're missing out. I missed out and still regret it. But you're lucky. Start Penis Enlargement now and do it right and stop getting hung up on having to be huge right now. Why injure your future to spite your past? Why not just take my advice, do Penis Enlargement slowly and correctly, then when you're 20 you'll have a 7 inch (or more). You realize that 19-25 is the prime age for living, right? Girls are at their peak beauty and sexuality. Everyone is fucking. Fucking is the favoured past time of people ages 19-25.

Just stop worrying about it. What you need to NOT do is avoid fucking now because you're afraid you'll get made fun of for your dick. You should just fuck any chacne you get, learn how to fuck, listen to the girl when she tells you how she wants it, then as your penis grows, you'll actually know how to fuck and you'll also have a bigger penis, rather than just having a big penis but not knowing shit about how to attract and fuck girls the way they want to be.

You're looking at things like a retarded, horny 17 year old - with no foresight. Take it from me. I was a crack addict from 17-24. I missed out on the prime of my life because I was depressed about the same stupid things you are. Don't piss away the best years of your life because you want to sulk like a pussy. Just start worrying about things that are important - career, social connections, your health, your mind and body. Do your Penis Enlargement properly and daily.

You have two choices.
1. You can tug away frantically at your dick for 6 months, gain nothing and give up because it's too hard and because your unrealistic expectations were let down by your results. Then you can go back to being quiet when guys talk about fucking girls (you think that's not what guys talk about until they're dead? Think of how much fucking goes on in college...), you can go back to drugs, fuck up your life and realize 6 years from now that you're an asshole, but it's too late to get back those precious years of 18-25. OR

2. Take my advice. Follow my guides in my thread on Penis Enlargement. Stop being a pussy, be a man. Worry about your pleasure first, then the woman's secondary. Try your best to make her cum every time. Stop caring about what people say about you. The best thing in the world is never being embarrassed. People respect a guy with the balls to be himself in any situation, regardless of how he looks or how big his dick is. Then, once you hit 20-21 and are in college, you will look back on this after a night of drinking and casual sex and realize I knew what I was talking about.
 
Yeah I agree with you prime time of living is 17-25...Thing about me is, I had sex once, with a drunk slut and I was too but not as much she was so hammered all she did was wrap her hands around my neck and put her head on my shoulder...damn I thought she was taking a nap but anyway I didn't wanna miss the chance so I kept going and going...nobody knows I do Penis Enlargement or how big my dick really is but based on my actions people assume I have a big dick...I just don't let anybody know about my insecurities concerning my penis... trust me all my so called "friends" been peer pressuring me since I was 14 and I was 15 when I first fucked a girl but that wasn't even worth talking about...I never had the size issue back then...I didn't even have a clue about average size and I was very confident...Yeah I was laughing about it with some of my friends and all but I never even considered it fucking cause that's just sad in my opinion to have sex with a drunk girl who can't even control herself...I want sex at a normal state you know so both of us actually get the feeling...The reason I said I stay quiet is because that one time I got "lucky" (I don't think lucky would be the word) was a long time ago and that was just to say I got laid...

Despite my weakness in penis size, nobody ever has had the balls to call me a pussy so I did feel up my respect in the other category...cause when I laugh and brag about doing this that, other kids stay quiet cause they got nothing to say just like my story... Money's been the most important thing in my life way before high school since I don't come from a "wealthy" family..but for the last year I've been frustrated with the size when I started thinking about it..So I'm temporarily worrying about the size thing...And that's why I planned it for 6 months because I don't wanna have to think about the issue for ever...

I appreciate you trying to tell me what's right..and it did make me realize a little what I'm doing wrong. I'm gonna keep doing what I do, which is Penis Enlargement until and maybe even after I see results, and also carry on with my life...Like I said I never have to worry about respect cause if I have anything it's respect from the people...Just one down side but I'll work it out :)...

I'm afraid I'm going to get banned from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for being underage...but it won't affect anytihng...
 
hepcat;527560 said:
Thanks for the advice Mike. I have to admit I'm a bit afraid to start hanging. Plus I heard it takes a lot of time daily which I don't know I could commit to. One good thing is I measured today and I'm 6.25" NBPenis EnlargementL, 7.25" BPenis EnlargementL, and 5.4" EG. I still feel like a .25" NBEL in about 6 months isn't really that good even though I've increased .5" BPenis EnlargementL. I don't know, it just seems so difficult for me. Plus I have missed about the week or so do to severe depression. If I had bigger gains I might be less depressed and doing Penis Enlargement daily again. The depression is not about my dick though. I won't even get into all that bullshit. I'm determined to keep on going but it's just such a pain in the ass right now.

If you have any specific advice regarding going about hanging while avoiding injuries that would be great. Right now I'm only doing the length portion of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and a few [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] exercises. I tend to be accident prone. So take that into account if you have any hanging advice. Thanks.

Ya, start at 2.5lbs and move up by 0.5 lbs/week until you figure out how to properly attach. It may take over a month. Took me awhile. I can make you a video if you'd like. Bib suggests starting at 5lbs but that's if you have figured out attachment point. I say start at 2.5lbs. Then only move up by 0.5lbs until you hit about 6.5-7lbs. By that time, you will know exactly what you're doing.

I've pulled ligs many times doing manual stretching. I have yet to pull anything hanging. It's a very controlled exercise - you know the exact weight, you set a stop watch alarm to make sure you don't go over 20 minutes per set. I think it's only dangerous because idiots jump into it and try to hang 10 lbs or something.

The thing about hanging is you can't miss a day. It's really a bitch. So you have to be consistent. It eats up a lot of your day. But growing your dick is a very difficult things to achieve. The only books written on the topic are by guys who are members of these forums. It's underground, it's not mainstream and it is not regarded as real by the medical community or the media. Mostly because there are so many risks involved, it requires a lot of hard work and I think it just isn't profitable unless they develop a pill that makes it grow without doing any work.

People are lazy, especially North Americans. Rather than deal with their problems head on like people did for thousands of years, they'd rather take a pill and ignore it. I've made many sacrifices to do my Penis Enlargement and I know I will make more, but I continue to choose to because I want to complete my goal.

I think all you really need to do is gain 1" of EL, 0.5" of EG, lose around 4-5% body fat and you'll start to like yourself physically. During the process of working towards those goals, you will find yourself compelled to achieve other things, such as working towards a career, meeting new friends, putting yourself in a position where you can have a relationship with a woman, developing skill at a hobby etc.

Right now, you might not care about any of that, you might just be wanting to fix your head and your body. But as you work on those things daily, you will become proud of the fact you are able to achieve a goal, and that confidence will slowly make your expectations of yourself increase and you will slowly believe you deserve more than you think you can handle at the moment. It's a process but I'm telling you, it works.

September 2011 all I cared about was getting a big dick and being muscular. Now I'm working towards a career, friends, hobbies, planning how I will become independent again, as well as continuing with my initial goals of bettering my penis, body and mind. I just balance my time with all of the above instead of focusing just on one. I put in over a year of focusing on the physical side and I did well, now it's time to "move forward".

As far as not having enough time to do it... I work 6 days a week, 42 hours, and I am in school mon-fri, 3 hours a day (15 hours a week). I spend over an hour commuting daily. I make all my meals, do hours of homework and still find the time to get in 3.5 hours of warm ups, hanging and jelqing each day. Before, I was getting in 5 hours, but it was just too much. I needed the extra 1.5 hours sleep. So if you want it bad enough and you can find a way to set your sights on the goal without letting your emotions sway you from getting there, you will get it done.
 
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MAXAMEYES;527542 said:
Just don't make the mistake of transferring ALL of your self-worth into your penis.
Being a man is much more than that.

Damn right. (You've got balls to enlarge as well if you want to.)
 
i disagree, life is a million times better for me in my 30's and i wouldnt go back to being a teen or twenty if you paid me.


as far as a jelly dick, yea for me it gets more "loose" after stretching with a weight or just with hands. its a good thing imo and makes stretching way easier. also, hydration. drink a lot of water and you will have a looser flacid for sure imo. im talking a lot, liek 2-3 liters a day.
 
b.d.d.;527972 said:
i disagree, life is a million times better for me in my 30's and i wouldnt go back to being a teen or twenty if you paid me.


as far as a jelly dick, yea for me it gets more "loose" after stretching with a weight or just with hands. its a good thing imo and makes stretching way easier. also, hydration. drink a lot of water and you will have a looser flacid for sure imo. im talking a lot, liek 2-3 liters a day.

That's fortunate for you. I'm sure life in some aspects gets better as you age and have more money, but as far as fucking, well.... Older women are less appealing to me than projectile vomiting in my bedroom wastebasket. I look at aging as the window closing to have sex with the 19-23 year old's that I never got to. Not to mention the discrimination you experience when you don't care for the things "civilized adults" should care for, like dinner parties, wine and talking about furniture.
 
MikeShlort;527973 said:
That's fortunate for you. I'm sure life in some aspects gets better as you age and have more money, but as far as fucking, well.... Older women are less appealing to me than projectile vomiting in my bedroom wastebasket. I look at aging as the window closing to have sex with the 19-23 year old's that I never got to. Not to mention the discrimination you experience when you don't care for the things "civilized adults" should care for, like dinner parties, wine and talking about furniture.

You're doing it wrong.
 
I actually respect older women alot more than the women of my generation( those born early 90s). Now you see back in the day women werent so sexually empowered, which was a good thing because they appreciated the finer things in a guy like his culture, his style, his looks,etc. Now a days every second girl I meet, doesnt want to talk about politics or history or litterature, instead she just flirts with me cause she heard some rumors of my prime time back in my late teen days( Im pretty well known in the Downtown Montreal night club scene cause my uncle owns many bars and clubs and often brought me inside, pissing off my parents in the process of course). I wont even get into the hesitation thing cause I know I cant deliver the 10x7 inches the whore expects from me. At least not for now, until Im back with my gains. Also girls these days are so much more arrogant, I mean you just want to cockslap them till they die. Although, I agree they are smoking hot.
 
I'm not arguing, I'm looking for him to give me advice on getting 19-23 year old's as a guy in his late 20's, in case I am over looking something.
 
Which has zero to do with this thread.
Address the subject or start your own thread.
It's just that simple.
MikeShlort;528138 said:
I'm not arguing, I'm looking for him to give me advice on getting 19-23 year old's as a guy in his late 20's, in case I am over looking something.
 
Well I would say that I've noticed a very positive correlation between growth and "softness" if you will. Of course the serious answer would be:

Swing that shit at a bitches face and if it bends all the way around the back of her head upon contact, you know you're probably good.
 
If you can slap both her ears at once...yer doin' good!
But you gotta seal the deal; don't forget those kegels!

Size may be visually impressive, but at 51 I gotta brag a little and say that gals have remarked, and have seemed impressed, much more by just how hard my cock has gotten than the size it is.
Remember- average and stone hard is much more memorable than big and floppy any day.



AF3;528165 said:
Well I would say that I've noticed a very positive correlation between growth and "softness" if you will. Of course the serious answer would be:

Swing that shit at a bitches face and if it bends all the way around the back of her head upon contact, you know you're probably good.
 
AF3, that was very helpful! lol...

Max, gotta take baby steps...one step at a time...first the length, then girth, then rock hard erection quality :)
 
I was watching a movie and I don't even realize I was stretching for like an hour atleast I mean I wasn't holding stretches for even maybe 30 seconds long but still stretching and keeping on my stretches as I watch the movie...

so i have an important question.. is there a minimum time that you have to hold the stretches? like 10-20-30 seconds? and does it really matter if you hold for less than 30 sometimes ? by that I mean will I not gain at all if I hold at a max intensity for less than 30 seconds at random times?
 
Hey, no matter how small they are- every step forward brings you closer to your goal.
helpseeker;528196 said:
AF3, that was very helpful! lol...

Max, gotta take baby steps...one step at a time...first the length, then girth, then rock hard erection quality :)
 
Yes of course, I wrote another reply after that one so please respond to that and this too..

I haven't been doing good BTC stretches because of the uncomfortableness and intensity level (it wasnt a problem before)..also, when I do BTC or sometimes very intense straight down stretch, when I pull down, I can feel something inside of my tummy (stomach maybe) is being pulled down...What does that tell me?
 
When it comes to stretching, it's very hard to overdo it.
Your skin or grip strength will tend to be the limiting factors. As long as you can, stretch with gusto. If you should actually "overstretch" by any palpable degree you will be the first to know, and I'll wager you'll be the first to know just when enough is enough.

Personally I don't use much of any kind of metrics at all, especially the clock; my philosophy on this is to use what your body tells you in order to self-limit your workouts based on the...oh let's call it the the fatigue-pain-feedback principle.
I'm a firm believer that your own body'll tell you when to drop the ol' lariat,cowboy. And until it does- keep twirlin' that rope.




helpseeker;528197 said:
I was watching a movie and I don't even realize I was stretching for like an hour atleast I mean I wasn't holding stretches for even maybe 30 seconds long but still stretching and keeping on my stretches as I watch the movie...

so i have an important question.. is there a minimum time that you have to hold the stretches? like 10-20-30 seconds? and does it really matter if you hold for less than 30 sometimes ? by that I mean will I not gain at all if I hold at a max intensity for less than 30 seconds at random times?
 
Take a look at the anatomy charts here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
There's alot of vital and complicated plumbing involved in Penis Enlargement. The more familiar you are with it the more productive your workouts will probably be.

helpseeker;528200 said:
Yes of course, I wrote another reply after that one so please respond to that and this too..

I haven't been doing good BTC stretches because of the uncomfortableness and intensity level (it wasnt a problem before)..also, when I do BTC or sometimes very intense straight down stretch, when I pull down, I can feel something inside of my tummy (stomach maybe) is being pulled down...What does that tell me?
 
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