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Whatup peeps, so I started pe a couple of months ago & purchased a bib hanger which I've used religiously 7 days a week for 3 sets of 25mins hanging up too 15lb with no gains thus far which is a little dissapointing but anyway so I decided to change things up a bit to prevent me getting too bored & started doing 5mins pumping then 5mins clamping & repeat this 4 times but at the same time am just doing some manual stretching too & what I've found is my ligs are WAY more sore through manual stretching as opposed to hanging most of the discomfort from hanging is at the attachment point I've tried a ton of different wraps etc but I can just seem to get a far better stretch with my hands so my question is has anyone also found this to be the case & started making gains after dropping hanging? Surely sore ligs is a sign I'm stretching affectively? I feel very tender when I never really did from hanging, thanks fellas
 
There are 3 threads you could check in on in the upcoming weeks, boohoohoo, borninFigi and mine. Boohoohoo does hardcore hanging, I do manual stretching (albeit with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] supersets) and Figi does a combo of the 2, we are all due to measure shortly so i guess you could make a rough comparison out of our results?

In the meanwhile, if you are feeling fatigue from your manual work then that's a good sign, the stretching from multiple angles would be working areas that the hanging may not of, were you hanging straight down every session?
 
Hi thanks for the reply I'll definitely keep an eye out for those, yeah I was only hanging straight down since I read that's where your first gains will come from plus I have a fairly high exit point & high erection angle too I know some people disregard that theory but it seems logical to me but you may be right hopefully doing multiple angles will do something?
 
What was your previous PE experience before you began hanging? Previous PE can actually condition you and make your hanging experience take more time to yield results than a guy who has no previous PE experience. A couple months is nothing. Neither is 15lbs really. You're just starting to scratch the surface for real potential with hanging when you hit the double digit weight levels. What hanging style were you using? Have you read about Progressive Hanging? If not, read up on it via the Article I recently submitted in our Articles forum.

Sore ligs are an encouraging sign, but not a guarantee of gains on the way. LOL. This stuff isn't an exact science.
 
Wouldn't it be most effective to try bundled manual work, followed by hanging, followed by an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] kind of deal?

Maybe the best approach is all of them mixed together at the right ratio.
 
Longth;634282 said:
Wouldn't it be most effective to try bundled manual work, followed by hanging, followed by an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] kind of deal?

Maybe the best approach is all of them mixed together at the right ratio.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] does give direction to multiple device usage in a total routine. Other tools can be added or replaced in the mix. For instance a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] can take the place of a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. All stretching can be done using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] replacing hands completely. Clamps can replace Rings. So many things can be substituted to make [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] more custom made.
 
i think a hanger is like a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] but a MUCH INTENSE [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].........there is more pressure and force used to stretch the tissue compared to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]....
manual stretches focus on every direction but the hanger focus is one direction.....

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Longth;634282 said:
Wouldn't it be most effective to try bundled manual work, followed by hanging, followed by an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] kind of deal?

Maybe the best approach is all of them mixed together at the right ratio.

i have been doing that....manal stretches for 30 mins and then 15 mins hanging.....then another session in evening......it has been working great for me
 
pogzee;634320 said:
i have been doing that....manal stretches for 30 mins and then 15 mins hanging.....then another session in evening......it has been working great for me

This is why I like bundled work before extending. Weakens the tunica so extending has a better shot at having an impact. Between that and frequent heat and 4 decent length sessions a day, I'm hoping I got me a monster routine for length gains.
 
Longth;634335 said:
This is why I like bundled work before extending. Weakens the tunica so extending has a better shot at having an impact. Between that and frequent heat and 4 decent length sessions a day, I'm hoping I got me a monster routine for length gains.

4 sessions are TOO GREAT i guess......i think you will be long in no time....lol
i think i will add another next week :)
 
pogzee;634417 said:
4 sessions are TOO GREAT i guess......i think you will be long in no time....lol
i think i will add another next week :)

If you've got the time right?

I seriously have a propensity to over do it anyway. You're probably better off, oddly enough.
 
pogzee;634417 said:
4 sessions are TOO GREAT i guess......i think you will be long in no time....lol
i think i will add another next week :)

The thing that is great about multiple sessions is the fact that the penis is in a constant state of elongation and expansion through the whole day (if planned right) In my early days I did two sessions a day, each about 2 hours long. In between sessions I kept a heating pad wrapped around my penis. I was constantly in a massive flaccid state and my gains were record breaking.
 
doublelongdaddy;634476 said:
The thing that is great about multiple sessions is the fact that the penis is in a constant state of elongation and expansion through the whole day (if planned right) In my early days I did two sessions a day, each about 2 hours long. In between sessions I kept a heating pad wrapped around my penis. I was constantly in a massive flaccid state and my gains were record breaking.

well DLD i have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap on throughout the day...but i have like 1 hour session of length PE in morning and evening....in middle i do rotary cranks and for 5 mins every 2-3 hours.....i am planning to add another long session.....should i???
 
pogzee;634640 said:
well DLD i have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap on throughout the day...but i have like 1 hour session of length PE in morning and evening....in middle i do rotary cranks and for 5 mins every 2-3 hours.....i am planning to add another long session.....should i???

If you have the time then of course you should, the more we stretch the longer we get and there is no real limit on stretching. When we talk about over training it is usually pertains to girth work.
 
pogzee;634696 said:
then i have been gaining very fast....lol i guess if i increase durations then it will be better....

Well duration is smart in hanging because with duration comes fatigue and working with fatigue brings the fastest length gains on the principals of DLD Blasters.
 
Thanks everyone for your input I appreciate it, I couldn't get on the net for a few days but thought I should report back what I can hardly believe, during the entire 2 months hanging I gained zilch but over the last 2 weeks I've been doing manual stretching as often as possible pretty much everytime I went to the toilet or showered or whenever my dick was in my hand lol I did a quick 30sec straight down stretch I probably average doing this 10 times a day & I measured today & I've gained half a cm which I know is nothing to write home about but it's only been 2 weeks I'm excited to see what may happen in the coming months so I think I'm ditching hanging at least for now
 
Currently every thing that has been done in denmark is to ass lick The EU. So we need to be equalized. So The things that is better in dk is slowly disappearing.

Anyway went to The surgeon who suggested to put a local amnesia. (I think its called that) and then simply burn The frenulum away.

I politely told him no and Walked away.

Need to find another one now
 
A combination of stretching and hanging would be the ideal length routine as stretching manually can hit places hanging can't while hanging allows for long periods of stretch which manuals can not do.
 
pogzee;634803 said:
lol i guess i might become long pogzee rather than ms pogzee.....;)

The whole reason I went with Longth is because it wouldn't make sense for a guy with that handle to not have lots of length. Subliminally encouraging myself to get dauntingly large.

Also I like how it sounds.

Longth
 
pogzee;634937 said:
exactly what i am doing DLD !

Good to know and I hope other men who hang learn to incorporate manual stretching into their routine.
 
Aussigymguy;634799 said:
Thanks everyone for your input I appreciate it, I couldn't get on the net for a few days but thought I should report back what I can hardly believe, during the entire 2 months hanging I gained zilch but over the last 2 weeks I've been doing manual stretching as often as possible pretty much everytime I went to the toilet or showered or whenever my dick was in my hand lol I did a quick 30sec straight down stretch I probably average doing this 10 times a day & I measured today & I've gained half a cm which I know is nothing to write home about but it's only been 2 weeks I'm excited to see what may happen in the coming months so I think I'm ditching hanging at least for now

mate don't talk yourself down like that! go get hammered and celebrate! you just did something most doctors say is impossible!

do as dld says and combine the 2.

what i like to do is really getting my stretches working. it needs to give that deep burning sensation in the tissue
after some time you will learn to feel when your tissue have fatiqued (like taking a rubber band and pulling it out to its max several times. eventually it will not have the same elastic effect)

at this point i strap it into my hanger for a couple of sessions. here the cock will just stay in the new elongated state i just created by the pulling.

then i go into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and have that on for as many hours as possible.

and when that isn't comfortable anymore.

i go into the jim strap and keep that going for the rest of the time.

simply i stretch the tissue and slowly use less and less resistance. but because my tissue is less and less elastic it stayes elongated in this new shape.

this takes time but trust me mate. it is the way to go for fast results.

the more hours and the more tension in the beginning. the better results you will get.

keep working at it.

and my advise.

start a thread in the routine section of the forum alot of great advice will come to you and there is alot og experienced people who will come with priceless input.

now go and become a local monument for the girls to take pictures next to :)
 
Aimingforthetop;635020 said:
mate don't talk yourself down like that! go get hammered and celebrate! you just did something most doctors say is impossible!

do as dld says and combine the 2.

what i like to do is really getting my stretches working. it needs to give that deep burning sensation in the tissue
after some time you will learn to feel when your tissue have fatiqued (like taking a rubber band and pulling it out to its max several times. eventually it will not have the same elastic effect)

at this point i strap it into my hanger for a couple of sessions. here the cock will just stay in the new elongated state i just created by the pulling.

then i go into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and have that on for as many hours as possible.

and when that isn't comfortable anymore.

i go into the jim strap and keep that going for the rest of the time.

simply i stretch the tissue and slowly use less and less resistance. but because my tissue is less and less elastic it stayes elongated in this new shape.

this takes time but trust me mate. it is the way to go for fast results.

the more hours and the more tension in the beginning. the better results you will get.

keep working at it.

and my advise.

start a thread in the routine section of the forum alot of great advice will come to you and there is alot og experienced people who will come with priceless input.

now go and become a local monument for the girls to take pictures next to :)

Great post!
 
I hate to be a downer but I feel compelled to post about this: I strongly feel that manual stretching and hanging is not good on the body over time. I do both and they absolutely get results but sometimes I wonder if it's worth the potential damage I may be causing my body.

I frequently feel weird cricks and pains in my shoulders, wrists, neck, and back. I know stretching and hanging works but there has to be a better way and I think youknowme has already discovered it. He trains with resistance bands, which I'm about to start using. I feel like the future of pe, the cutting edge pe, is hands free training. Companies like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] have also started to figure this out.

So all that being said, I am not advocating that we should stop manually stretching and hanging but I am advocating that we should strive to use resistance bands and other methods that reduce the amount of manual force needed for a quality stretch.

Same goes for jelqing. There has got to be a device or technique out there that can be used that is not so taxing. Some of us like to work out the rest of our bodies too. It gets to be a real drag wasting precious energy and time on dick work when we could be putting that energy toward many other things potentially more worthwhile.
 
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tb007;635113 said:
I hate to be a downer but I feel compelled to post about this: I strongly feel that manual stretching and hanging is not good on the body over time. I do both and they absolutely get results but sometimes I wonder if it's worth the potential damage I may be causing my body.

I frequently feel weird cricks and pains in my shoulders, wrists, neck, and back. I know stretching and hanging works but there has to be a better way and I think youknowme has already discovered it. He trains with resistance bands, which I'm about to start using. I feel like the future of pe, the cutting edge pe, is hands free training. Companies like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] have also started to figure this out.

So all that being said, I am not advocating that we should stop manually stretching and hanging but I am advocating that we should strive to use resistance bands and other methods that reduce the amount of manual force needed for a quality stretch.

Same goes for jelqing. There has got to be a device or technique out there that can be used that is not so taxing. Some of us like to work out the rest of our bodies too. It gets to be a real drag wasting precious energy and time on dick work when we could be putting that energy toward many other things potentially more worthwhile.

So you think that PE in general hurts other parts of the body?
 
doublelongdaddy;635126 said:
So you think that PE in general hurts other parts of the body?
I think that manual stretching and hanging hurts the parts I mentioned. Mainly shoulders, neck, and back. So no, not pe in general and not any other parts of the body.

And also just to reiterate about the future of pe being hands free thing, it could also just be minimal hand use or some device or attachment that compounds the force, basically giving a stronger stretch with less work on our part. And right now I think the best examples of that are the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] with resistance bands and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].
 
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tb007;635136 said:
I think that manual stretching and hanging hurts the parts I mentioned. Mainly shoulders, neck, and back. So no, not pe in general and not any other parts of the body.

And also just to reiterate about the future of pe being hands free thing, it could also just be minimal hand use or some device or attachment that compounds the force, basically giving a stronger stretch with less work on our part. And right now I think the best examples of that are the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] with resistance bands and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

Well I can tell you I have serious neck and back issues that I have no clue where they came from. Right now I have to take muscle relaxers and pain medication Ultrum (non-opiate). I am also in PT and need to get a MRI. Perhaps all the PE I have done may have caused some issues...
 
doublelongdaddy;635194 said:
Well I can tell you I have serious neck and back issues that I have no clue where they came from. Right now I have to take muscle relaxers and pain medication Ultrum (non-opiate). I am also in PT and need to get a MRI. Perhaps all the PE I have done may have caused some issues...

yep i was thinking the same i started to feel some pain on my back that i had never felt before......
 
doublelongdaddy;635194 said:
Well I can tell you I have serious neck and back issues that I have no clue where they came from. Right now I have to take muscle relaxers and pain medication Ultrum (non-opiate). I am also in PT and need to get a MRI. Perhaps all the PE I have done may have caused some issues...
I remember you mentioning that before. That sucks man. I hope you can get those issues worked out. I know a couple things that may help you. One is getting really deep massages and the other is using a teeter hang ups inversion table or the boots to hang upside-down to slowly elongate the spine and decompress the discs. But yeah, that's what I've been afraid of.
 
tb007;635201 said:
I remember you mentioning that before. That sucks man. I hope you can get those issues worked out. I know a couple things that may help you. One is getting really deep massages and the other is using a teeter hang ups inversion table or the boots to hang upside-down to slowly elongate the spine and decompress the discs. But yeah, that's what I've been afraid of.

At least I am getting help for it now, once I am done with the mental health stuff I am going into the hospital for neck and back issues. Every thing will get sorted out but I should have taken care of this months ago.
 
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