ELIMINATE premature-ejaculation quickly and forever!

[SLICEDBEEF]

Here is what I believe a sure-fire way of ending premature ejaculation forever. I promise you, this will change the way you look at premature ejaculation forever....with what I like to call the "STUD-MAKER-DRILL".....

BASICS...PSYCHOLOGY OF ACCIDENTAL BEHAVIOR

Ok, before we get off on the STUD-MAKER-DRILL (pun intended), I'm going to cover the basic's of what we are going to be doing, like what exactly premature-ejaculation is and what causes it so we can reverse it....or prevent it.

Ya see, all premature-ejaculation is...is in your mind. Nobody is born with premature-ejaculation. Premature-ejaculation is a learned behavior. I'm not talking about learning, like you would learn to drive a car, because you intended and you wanted to drive a car...you understood the ramifications of going through the process of learning to drive a car.

Now, you may be saying to yourself "i don't remember learning to pre-ejaculate". I'm going to go through a lttle scenario and you might be able to figure out what I'm talking about. If not, then I'll still point it out to you afterwards...

You're 14 years old. Your parents left you alone for 30 minutes or so while they go to the store. You decide to be a little snoop and look through their room. You look in you dad's dresser and you come upon a thin magazine with naked chicks in it performing all kinds of nasty things. You start feeling a little weird and you decide to get your jollies off. You decide that you have a few minutes to get your jollies off and still have time to put the magazine back where you found it...all before your parents get back... Hell, you don't want to get caught pleasuring yourself by your parents...do you? You go to the bathroom, grab some vasoline and you start getting busy. Since your're in a hurry to get done before you get caught, you're really concentrating on getting off as soon as possible. You're finally done after about a minute or so and you put the magazine back and go watch TV...all before your partents arrive. You think to yourself "that's fun, I need to do that more often". From then till now, you continue to get your rocks off hundreds of times and as quick as possible so nobody catche's you.

In the above scenario it shows an example of somebody conditioning their unconcious to cause premature ejaculation, all without them even realizing it. The kid just didn't understand the ramifications of continually wacking off and ejaculation as fast as he could. He didn't mean to cause this problem. I mean, for crying out loud, he had to do something and he didn't want to get caught, so he consciously tried to get off as quick as he could every time he started feeling a little horny, until it turned to an unconscious behavior. He conditioned his mind to react in a specific way that was the best option at that time of his life (now it's not the best option!). This is the same way you would learn any behavior, whether good or bad. You continually repeat the action (such as dribbling a basketball, juggling, cussing, boxing, ejaculating as quickly as possible, etc.) until you have mastered it at an unconscious level and it's now out of your control... it's part of your behavior! He simply did it out of fear of getting caught and embaraced/humiliated.

NOTE: It doesn't matter if the above scenario is exacly what you went through or not. The "STUD-MAKER-DRILL" and it's principles of human behavior will still override your current unconscious programming, which causes premature ejaculation.

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Part 2 coming soon...

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Ok, you've read the above post, right? If not, then go back up and read it so you can get an understanding of what we are going to be doing.


PART 2

Remember the last section? Good. This is what we are going to do:

We are going to use that exact same process, that most used to develop the premature-ejaculation behavior but we are going to alter it using the most efficient and logical way possible, to develop the exact opposite behavior. We are basically going to reprogram our unconcious minds, so that we can last as long as we want in bed...with any girl! It won't be unusual to become a master of your ejaculation in less than a month... and the ability to cum on your own cue... (Yes, you read that right) )

NOTE: Within 3 week's testing this theory out, I went from lasting anywhere from 15-20 minutes to having complete control for anywhere from aprox. 1-2 hours.



STUD-MAKER-DRILL INTRODUCTION

Ok, the base foundation of the SMD is the mindset. Think about it this way... your mind can only process a positive thought... it CANNOT process a negative thought... for example...if somebody told you NOT to think of the color red, it would be impossible because in order for you to know what the color red is, your mind would have to visualize the color and therefor you would be thinking of the color red. It's totally useless to think this way.
On the other hand, if somebody told you to think of the color blue, then your mind would be dedicated to thinking of the color blue and therefor you would not be thinking of the color red.

So in knowing this, you can see how alot of guy's with this problem, tend to get frustrated when they start trying to NOT visualize themselves ejaculating... but end up ejaculating anyways... because they had to visualize it in order to know what not to do...and that make's them start thinking of the pleasure they are recieving (not good). There's an easier and effective way to do this, simply by changing your mind-set...read on....

Durring the SMD, we are NOT going to concentrate on NOT ejaculating, but instead we are going to be concentrating/visualizing on lasting as long as we can WHILE trying to please this girl (imagined or real) and rocking her world... INSTEAD of concentrating on the pleasure we're recieving. Does this sound like a good alternative? Good!

Overall, you wan't to be in the cause state...not the effect state. You're concentrating on the girl's (real or imaginary) pleasure, wich will make you pretty much forget about yourself... and therefore you won't be having any thoughts running through your mind about ejaculating...

If you are determined to please this woman and not think about the stimulation your recieveing, but by concentrating and being dedicated to stimulating and pleasing the woman, then you'll be too busy causeing an effect on her and therefor she won't be able to cause an effect on you (ie. busting your nut too early).

To sum up the mind-set for laymen... Do not think about your own pleasure. BUT, in order to do this, then your entire goal is to concentrate on pleasing the women (real or imaginary) AND on lasting as long as you wan't. If you do this with the STUD-MAKER-DRILL (as written below), then you will have no choice but to ingain this new behavior of lasting as long as you want...with any girl.

Part 3 coming soon....

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Part 3

Ok, before I go into how to use the STUD-MAKER-DRILL, I'm going to cover the 3 level's of stimulation... wich is another essential in following the STUD-MAKER-DRILL.

DESENSITIZING...3 LEVELS OF STIMULATION

You may have very low tolerance to stimulation when you're horny. You may be the type of guy that creams your pant's if a woman just brushes up against you. Or you may have enough tolerance to last a whopping 1 minute inside of a girl. From all the concentration that you've put on pleasing yourself and getting off as quick as possible, you have develped a very low tolerance for stimulation. Let's reverse that!

There are 2 types of stimulation that we are going to manipulate so we can, in essence, desensitize are self from the stimulation. There is one type of stimulation (#3) that we are going to use consistently durring the SMD so we don't fool are mind's. Here they are:

ONE
Tightness. This has to do with the tightness of the grip/girl. Most people are more sensitive to the stimulation when they tighten their grip (to a certain extent) or the girl they are having sex with is tighter. They will end up blowing their load faster

TWO
Speed. This has to do with how fast you are screwing the girl...or your hand. Most pople will shoot a load faster if they pick up the pace.

THREE
Fantasizing...or Imagination. This has to do with how you fantasize having sex with a girl. This can include sexual positions, types of girls, associated/disassociated from the fantasy, etc.
You will be able to visualize yourself in a 1st, 2nd or 3rd person view. 1st person simply means that you are not seeing yourself but you are actually visualizing yourself in the moment, with the girl...you are completely associated with the experience. Typically, this will cause you to shoot your load faster. 2nd person mean's that you're visualizing yourself from a spot, maybe a few feet away or visualizing just one body part of the girl (pussy, tit's, ass, etc.). 3rd person simply means that, for example, you see yourself from across the room. I'll note that we will have no need for the 2nd or 3rd person visualization. We will use only the 1st person visualization durring the SMD as well as different sexual positions, types of girls, etc.

Part 4... THE STUD-MAKER-DRILL...Coming up next.

 

[Jason1]

Please continue. This is fucking good stuff.

 

[Super]

This is the fucking best shit I have ever read in my life about Pre-Ejaculation, This is going to change my life! Thank you so much!

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

The time is now...

The STUD-MAKER-DRILL

If you havn't read the previous post's, then go back and read them... it's essential that you understand what you are going to be doing here in a sec....

The STUD-MAKER-DRILL

What you are about to experience is the same type of visualization technique/process that top olympic and professional athlete's use to enhance their performance in their chosen endeavor...and has been proven very succesful!

Now you are going to get some vasoline or other lube that you prefer and get comfortable. You want to put some lube in your hand and relax and close your eyes if your prefer, now lube up your cock. All you're going to do now is fantasize about your dream girl...the one that makes you cream your pants when she brushes up against you...that's a good one.

Start to imagine initiating sex and making your moves. Make sure you go through all the steps that you would go through if you were initiating having sex with someone, especially the first penetration. But, instead of concentrating on getting yourself off, concentrate on rocking this girl's world...be the man she's always dreamed of and take control! Make your-self associated with the fantasy. Actually look down at your cock and see yourself fucking that pussy... Feel her legs wrapped around you and your pelvis's bumping together...Scan your eyes along her body, looking at her pussy getting pounded... move along her stomach and up to her tits... continue to her face and look in her eye's and see her expression of pure extacy. Don't just imagine her pussy or whatever body part turns you on the most... See her like she's actually there. Remember, you want to visualize/fantasize this as close to reality as possible...
Again, this is the same method that top athletes use to enhance their performance in their chosen endeavor...

Your whole goal is to please this girl as much as you can, INSTEAD of concentrating on pleasing yourself. You need to be a man! Do this as long as you can. Really get into it...to pleasure this girl like she's never been pleasured before. If you start to feel like you are going to lose it, loosen your grip and/or slow down the pace until it passes... then you can continue and start to increase or decrease the grip and/or pace, as you feel fit. If you have the self-control to do this, then you will be successful in ingraining this new behavior and continually decreassing you sensitivity to the stimulation.
If you really start to feel like you have to ejaculate and slowing down or loosening the grip doesn't work enough at the time, then flex those PC muscles as tight as you can. After it has passed, continue on with your session and continually adjust the grip and/or pace of the strokes, as you feel fit. After about 30 minutes to an hour of pleasing this simulated/imagined girl, then you can choose to ejaculate while changing your state of mind back to the effect state (start thinking about your pleasure)... BUT, only after about 30-60 minutes of really rocking this girl's world! This is a bonus when you change back into the effect state; you are training yourself to cum on your own cue!

Just a couple of tips: When your're adjusting your stroking pace during the drill, be sure that you are fitting it with the fantasy. So, if you are slowing down the pace, imagine that you are slowing down the pace of the penetrations of the visualized girl. It's also important to fantasize about different sexual positions and to actually penetrate your hand by using hip action during the positions that you are doing the actual fucking, such as the missionary position. Although, if you are fantasizing about a girl on top and riding/fucking you, or giving you a blowjowb or hand job, then you don't have to worry about using the hip movement tip (maybe a little). This is because you would use very little, if any at all, during the actual thing.
Also, it's important to remember to add all senses into the fantasy, like kinosthetic and auditory and not just the visualization. Actually imagine and feel her legs wrapped around you... feel her breasts brushing against you...hear her moans of extacy...look down and see the penetrative action... make the fantasy as real as possible!

The more you perform this drill, the more you will notice that you can use more stimulation (ie. tightness and/or pace) without slipping up. Eventually you will get to the point where you are a master of your own dick and you will have complete contol of your orgasm's. You will be able to last as long as you choose and you will have the ability to cum whenever you choose!

Good Luck...

 

[xxxyamzxxx]

sounds awesome man...will def. be tryin it

 

[Super]

This is going to change my life forever

 

[Super]

I am sticking this thread, this is the best pre-ejac thread I have ever read.

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Cool...I'm glad you like it,

Thanks

 

[Godsize]

I think fantasizing about the woman will make me cum quicker.

 

[Super]

Hey give us more!!

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Godsize
"I think fantasizing about the woman will make me cum quicker."

If that's truly the case, then just use the principles and reverse it. In other words, fantasize about yourself, until you've pleased the women, and then change your state of mind (concentration) on pleasing the women when you decide to finish... That is, if you have a pre-ejac problem?

Even though doing it this way, I believe isn't the best way to perform for the women and rocking her world... then by just using it as regularly instructed, you should "concentrate" on pleasing the women while decreasing your stimulation...like it already explains. It all depend's on if you care about getting her off or not...wich I believe you do, by what you've stated.

Good Luck

 

[bigbuttlover]

Damn this is awesome stuff Slicedbeef! I am blessed with a big dick but sometimes my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] sucks. I have always been rather inconsistent. Sometimes I can last an hour straight fucking no problem, other times I put it in and cant go a few minutes. I tried this method yesterday and damn its a workout! I have no doubt that this will work, I tried actually moving around into different positions that I would use in real life to make it more realistic. I think I went about a half hour at most and then couldnt take it anymore lol. A few questions....

When you feel you are gonna cum, is it ok to just stop totally for a minute or better to just loosen the grip and slow down?

How long did it take for you to see improvement?

Thanks!

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Damn this is awesome stuff Slicedbeef! I am blessed with a big dick but sometimes my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] sucks. I have always been rather inconsistent. Sometimes I can last an hour straight fucking no problem, other times I put it in and cant go a few minutes. I tried this method yesterday and damn its a workout! I have no doubt that this will work, I tried actually moving around into different positions that I would use in real life to make it more realistic. I think I went about a half hour at most and then couldnt take it anymore . A few questions....

When you feel you are gonna cum, is it ok to just stop totally for a minute or better to just loosen the grip and slow down?

This is not the "start and stop drill" (edging). It's best to just slow down the pace and/or loosen the grip... and then continue fluctuating the grip/pace as you feel fit.

If you are still having a hard time keeping yourself from ejaculating, then try to start off the session, from the begining, with less grip and pace as usual... and build up as you feel fit.

Also, you DON'T want to start loosening the grip and/or slowing down the pace when you're right on the edge of cumming... you wan't to start decreasing (pace/grip) before-hand, when you sence that you're just about to reach the "edge". If you start to feel like you're about 5-10 (more or less) strokes from ejaculation, then start decreasing the stimulation (pace/grip)...
So, in other word's, don't go to the point of "edging" before you decide to decrease your pace/grip... do it before the point of "edging".

The reason for this is, you don't wan't to train your unconcious to develop the behavior of reaching the "edge", where the next logical step is for you to ejaculate... All you would be doing is training yourself for failure by reaching the "edge"...

Good Luck

 

[BusterSword]

Hey good stuff
I used something like this before, and got to 14 minutes of nonstop thrusting.
But THIS IS BETTER thanks a bunch man

 

[ficti0n]

Hiya guys,

Thought I would introduce myself here as I'm a member here.

Although I 100% agree with the jist of premature ejaculation, and trying to control it, theres another view to look at. Ok when a guy cums he's usually done for a while until he gets it back up, this could be minutes or hours. But, there should not be any need to desensatise, or postpone any pleasure you get.

Curing premature ejaculation by postponing and desensatising is not what I think is the answer, the answer is stopping the refractory period.

There are drugs out there, that seem to be proven in reducing or even stopping the refractory period alltogether, and even increase pleasure.

I have yet to find a place where I can get these drugs from here in the UK. The two drugs are Dostinex and Bromocriptine. They are treatments for Parkinsons desease, but according to what I have read a low daily dose has no bad side effects.

If I had a choice between stopping my pleasure and repeatadly filling up my girl I think I would choose the latter!

If anyone here in the UK has any info on obtaining these drugs at a reasonable price I would be interested. Unfortunatly Dostinex is still patented and only produced by one manufacturer, but Bromocriptine is now made by a number of manufaturers, so will be substantially cheeper.

Just my opinion

fic.

 

[fender646]

I was watching the movie PornStar which is a documentary about Ron Jeremy and he says the way he lasts is he dosent look at the girl if he gets too excited and he thinks of really gross things like dead kittens and old people and he says that makes him last as long as he wants to. He says its 99.9% mental. Thats how he can cum on command.

 

[levista]

i think i prefer slicedbeefs method to Ron Jeremy's LOL

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

Here is a PM disussion that me and Hangh had today that:

-discusse's some step's throughly and answer's some question's that a few might have...

-How to more "effectively" use the Reverse Keegle (for those who need it), based on Human Physiology... If you've had problem's with using the RK with Premature Ejaculation and even "Blasters", then you might want to check it out.

-It also show's how Hangh literally ELIMINATED his pre-ejac right away...between message's!





I saw your post on Pre-Ejac. I have one question tho...

Actually, you have 2 question's... I'm a smart ass, aren't I ???
Quote:

Since I am still a virgin, You think this will be as beneficial to me?

Of course it will be beneficial to you, as long as you plan on doin some chick in the future... you can use this to help prepare you mentaly and physically for your first time...you'll be well ahead of the pack as far as performance goes, for novice's/intermediate's... and even beyond


The other question is, What if you can only go 10 minutes and then you feel you can't avoid cumming? Should you stop there or how do you work up to 30min?

Ahhhhh...this is where alot of people mess up... Their is a very simple solution to this and I'm going to tell it to you right now...

It is VERY IMPORTANT that you start decreasing the stimulation BEFORE YOU GET TO THE "EDGE"....NOT after you reach it! The reason being, is because, if you reach to far into the "edge" then you are training yourself to reach the edge... and we all know what happen's after that...you fall! does that make since?

So, to reiterate, before you even start feeling like you are on the "edge"...like you are about to reach the "edge"...start to decrease the stimulation (pace/tightness).

I think I went over this in the thread, so you might want to go back over it...ahh hell, go back over the whole thread, to pick up some information you might have missed...

If you have any other question regarding this...or anything else, please don't hesitate to ask...


Peace



Well that's the thing! I start to slow the pace way before I reach the edge, But when i'm doing the act my PC muscle contracts by itself and that in turn makes me cum faster. Sometimes I can go a bit longer tho and sometimes i'm there really fast, no matter what I do. Any advice?

Yes, I've got some advice...first, you say that your pc muscle contract's in a "sponanious" manner no matter what? ...I would say that the best thing for you to do is STOP IT...you can do this by using an RK (reverse-keegle)...since that is the best method to relaxe the PC muscle...It is very important when you are using an RK, that you do the RK slowely and not explosively. The reason being, is because, if you do it explosively, your bodie's natural "reflex" (natural protection mechanism) will kick in and defeat the purpose by contracting it immediatly after you attemp the RK. Same thing as if you (or a friend) extend your arm too fast, you might notice that your bicep kick's in and keep's you from hyper extending your elbow... it's a naturall protection mechanism... Go slowely, and you should notice that it work's pretty damm good for this minor obstacle you're facing...

Also, are you really using the visualization and the "intent" of pleasing a girl? If not, then you are probably focusing "too much" on your own stimulation...you need to concentrate/visualize pleasing a girl while thinking about lasting long.

Now, I know this might sound silly, but you need to have this view of yourself, in your mind, as you are doing the SMD, as an "alpha male"...you need to believe that you are THE STUD, and you can please any women you want... it DOES NOT matter who she is...and it DOES NOT matter how long it takes...you are going to ride her like a champion race horse untill she's done...

If you "imagine" yourself like that, durring the exercise, then you'll have fun with this...and your mind will bring you there in reality... A pschological process know to some as a "self fulfilling prophecy" in a way. Their is a very concrete psychology behind this natural "phenomenon"... To keep it simple, let's just leave it at that

After a few session's of getting the rytHydromax of this exercise down, you'll start to get better at it, and you'll notice that you won't even think of it as a "pre-ejac exercise"...but instead, it will be your daily "ego and pleasure session"...you'll enjoy it...and it will improve your attitude and your overall confidence with women...in and out of the bedroom...

Let me know if this help's or not...

Peace

Hey dude,

I just did exactly all that you said before I even read it. Just did a 40 min session right now.. I did 30min imagining and finished it off with some adult entertainment And when I switched to adult entertainment I noticed how easy it was to not cum so I did it for 10 more minutes. I'll never stress to ejac anymore, that's no good!

Thanks

That's awesome!

Would you mind if I post'd this entire discussion in my pre-ejac thread? It might answer alot of same or similar problem's for other's.


Sure, Now i'm going to sleep!

 

[hangh]

Yah! Just did a 45min session. It's the hardest the first 15-20 minutes then it gets easy, I dunno why? Does anyone else experience this? I can basically dance at the edge when i've done 30 minutes. And if I stand up and do it then it's really easy to reverse kegel and not cum... What do you people say?

Cheers

 

[9cyclops9]

Yeah the reverse kegel is definitely the key IMO. Good stuff man.

 

[thedash]

I always had this problem. And so I figured I'd share what's helped me. I started looking and found a lot of info, but for instance, i downloaded the book on multiple male orgasms, and I just don't know about this concept of whole body orgasms. I like the way orgasms feel now, I just don't want it to happen too quick.

I wanteded a quick fix with my new girlfriend, and I'll tell you what things have helped me the most as a short term solution. Masturbating about an hour before takes the edge off as far as getting too excited too quick. The second thing, is breathing. Now there is a lot of info regarding breathing, as in tantric sex, but I am not at this point really that interested in delving that deep into tantric, but breathing techniques I have found has been very helpful.

Now, since I am not into overcomplicated techniques that require some kind of deep inner experience, I basically just came up with my own simple technique. Simply put, breathe deeply and slowly to relax a little and bring the excitement level down a notch when you start getting close. I usually have to slow down on the thrusting at this point. I never realized before I started consciously doing this, how when i was getting close, that I was hardly breathing at all, nearly holding my breath completely and that is bad. When you hold your breath, you are tensing up and ensuring the inevitable. So if you slow down, and consciously breath long deep breaths, you can relax your body enough that you will bring the excitement back down to a manageable level.

I have found that breathing through my nose, and focusing on the air going in and out helps too. Nothing deep here, just simply taking the focus off of being so excited that you want to blow just long enough to get control. I can still look in her eyes, or look at her body and maintain a connection, and bring things under control. I hate when people say think about baseball, because what's the point if you can't think about and enjoy what you are doing?

Reverse keegling has been another thing that has helped, at least I think that's what I'm doing - I honestly have trouble really differentiating them from normal keegle. The only way I can explain what I am doing, it's almost like trying to force yourself to come, to the point to where you are trying so hard, that it doesn't happen. A reverse keegle, if that is indeed what I am doing, is kind of like when you are taking a leak, and you are trying to force out that last little bit. Anyway, for whatever reason, it helps, and the nice thing, is that i keep a good erection, not 100% which is not what you want, because at 100% as I would define it, you are basically at or very near your point of no return. One note though, the longer I go, the easier it gets, until I am at nearly a constant 100% erection and still able to maintain control.

The last thing, which I believe is the hardest to get control over, is that most of it is in your mind. If you think you can't last long, you won't, plain and simple. Sounds easy enough, just stop thinking that you can't last long, and you will. But it's just not that simple. But the above techniques have helped me out enough that I got more and more confident, and really started believing that I could last as long as I wanted. I am now to the point, to where I can last pretty much as long as I want - not indefinitely, but at least I won't be accused of being a minute man.

 

[big bro]

man this stuff is good !!!!

 

[wrangler7]

Speaking of Ron Jeremy I saw an old clip of him lying on his back waiting for some girl to start riding him and he was literally bouncing his dick a full 180 degrees. He was bouncing it off his stomach and then back down toward his leg. I was pretty amazed when I saw that. He must have very strong PC muscles. Anybody ever seen that? Wrangler

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

thedash, you make a good point! I remember reading somewhere the benefit's of "good" breathing and how it can help with sexual performance as well as overall more energy throughout the day (I think it was in a fitness mag... but I'm not sure). Thank's for sparkin my memory.

In edition to what you've stated with the breathing, it's also important to make sure you are breathing in/around your stomach/solarplex and not your chest. Alot of people make the mistake of breathing with thier chest puffing up, but that is incorrect. The most effecient way to breath is through your stomach and/or solarplex.

Peace

 

[thedash]

Slicedbeef, thanks for that tip, i haven't really been paying attention to that, so i don't know if I've been breathing correctly or not. Anything that is good for your overall general health, will benefit you sexually.

 

[Jason1]

This should be a sticky again.

 

[Jason1]

I just did this and could only go about four minutes. Maybe it is cause I haven't ejaculated in a few days but I was thinking about the chick and got so turned on.

 

[pooperscooper]

i can't wait to try this stuff

 

[geeke19]

just added to my bookmarks in firefox thanks

 

[Cool_as_fcuk]

crackin thread SlicedBeef... pretty much what I've been thinking the past few years, just never seen it in writing before!

 

[YupYup]

damn just tried this,i wanted to see if it worked right away. And it actually worked,usually in a jerk session i last about 15 minutes(with breaks) when i did it today tryin this technique i lasted 30 with no breaks constant jerk and coulda lasted longer but jackin off for an hour just seems wrong,cant wait to try this with my girl. I think its gonna take time tho,i really dont like the idea of having to jerk for an hour daily to do this,but i guess its just like Penis Enlargement.Id just rather use that hour stretching cuz i really would hate to spend 2 hrs of my day devoted to my dick.

 

[BusterSword]

Now i am trying this, but the Thermogenics are causing me to ejaculate
quicker than a cowboy in an old western. I have a goal of fast fat loss
so how can i compromise?

Maybe Embrace the difficulty? And maybe its better that its harder?

the thermo is causing major warmth down there at the same time half assing my erections and quickening my cumming.

 

[Layzie D]

ey man thanks alot of this info, even if i don't know you. You're a person who has changed my life and i appreciate what you have shared with us!

 

[Falz]

Very useful. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

[john_connor]

Let me say that this is FU#@%ng awesome stuff!!! I really like it , and most important of all i can fit prefectly in the example that u gave... and after i read it i remember that in fact when i was more young i wasent like this ("shoting fast" type). Tks a lot.

 

[Mark_8]

Part 3

Ok, before I go into how to use the STUD-MAKER-DRILL, I'm going to cover the 3 level's of stimulation... wich is another essential in following the STUD-MAKER-DRILL.

DESENSITIZING...3 LEVELS OF STIMULATION

You may have very low tolerance to stimulation when you're horny. You may be the type of guy that creams your pant's if a woman just brushes up against you. Or you may have enough tolerance to last a whopping 1 minute inside of a girl. From all the concentration that you've put on pleasing yourself and getting off as quick as possible, you have develped a very low tolerance for stimulation. Let's reverse that!

There are 2 types of stimulation that we are going to manipulate so we can, in essence, desensitize are self from the stimulation. There is one type of stimulation (#3) that we are going to use consistently durring the SMD so we don't fool are mind's. Here they are:

ONE
Tightness. This has to do with the tightness of the grip/girl. Most people are more sensitive to the stimulation when they tighten their grip (to a certain extent) or the girl they are having sex with is tighter. They will end up blowing their load faster

TWO
Speed. This has to do with how fast you are screwing the girl...or your hand. Most pople will shoot a load faster if they pick up the pace.

THREE
Fantasizing...or Imagination. This has to do with how you fantasize having sex with a girl. This can include sexual positions, types of girls, associated/disassociated from the fantasy, etc.
You will be able to visualize yourself in a 1st, 2nd or 3rd person view. 1st person simply means that you are not seeing yourself but you are actually visualizing yourself in the moment, with the girl...you are completely associated with the experience. Typically, this will cause you to shoot your load faster. 2nd person mean's that you're visualizing yourself from a spot, maybe a few feet away or visualizing just one body part of the girl (pussy, tit's, ass, etc.). 3rd person simply means that, for example, you see yourself from across the room. I'll note that we will have no need for the 2nd or 3rd person visualization. We will use only the 1st person visualization durring the SMD as well as different sexual positions, types of girls, etc.

Part 4... THE STUD-MAKER-DRILL...Coming up next.

great one, thanks!

 

[CrazyEight]

This post has been great and really works. Here is another tip that has worked wonders for myself. Use it in conjunction with all the other ideas you have learned here, such as thinking about pleasing the woman, rather than yourself.

Every time you are about to reach the "point of no return", pinch yourself. Not too hard, just enough to feel a slight sting. I know, this may sound foolish to many of you, but doing this simple little thing while having sex or while masturbating can stop premature ejaculation forever. It's based off of a punisHydromaxent/reward system. If you find yourself pinching too much, say 10 times, completely stop and try again later. I hope this helps some guys out.

 

[Sunburnt Yetti]

excellent thread - sounds like someone has discovered nlp!

 

[diverse]

my semen is very thin maybe due to lottttts of masturbation in early days when i came to know i have a penis and it stands up. i get drops of cum leaking out when i am hard or when i am thinking of sex. i am sure you know what i mean. but doing Penis Enlargement exercises, pc muscle exercises and now since last one week trying this method, i have 90% overcome my leakage. thanks to you for such a useful method by heart!!! you rock!

 

[instinktiv]

Wow, I haven't been to this thread...this forum...for quite a while! Been moving around alot and working... Haven't been staying steady...

I'm glad many people have gotten benefit from the thread...and thanks for the kind words!





SLICEDBEEF

 

[instinktiv]

BUSTERSWORD

Now i am trying this, but the Thermogenics are causing me to ejaculate
quicker than a cowboy in an old western. I have a goal of fast fat loss
so how can i compromise?

Maybe Embrace the difficulty? And maybe its better that its harder?

the thermo is causing major warmth down there at the same time half assing my erections and quickening my cumming.

Forget the thermogenics... Raise the PH of your body to a more alkalyne state by consuming 2 tbs of bragg organic apple cider vinegar... plus approx. 1/8-1/4 tsp of pure baking soda...mixed in around 8 oz. of purified water... 2-3 times daily... Consume only white meats and fresh vegetables (preferably organic) with juices and purified water (distilled)! There's more, but this is good for starters...

You'll lose weight faster... and you'll feel and be extremely healthy... It will, from what I've experienced, boost the effects of the ROP!

Forget the supplements for now...and forget the thermogenics for good, regardless of their advertising! You can't be on them forever and when you decide to go off, you'll discover the side effects of a burned out metabolism are extremely shitty!

Peace and good luck!

 

[instinktiv]

damn just tried this,i wanted to see if it worked right away. And it actually worked,usually in a jerk session i last about 15 minutes(with breaks) when i did it today tryin this technique i lasted 30 with no breaks constant jerk and coulda lasted longer but jackin off for an hour just seems wrong,cant wait to try this with my girl. I think its gonna take time tho,i really dont like the idea of having to jerk for an hour daily to do this,but i guess its just like Penis Enlargement.Id just rather use that hour stretching cuz i really would hate to spend 2 hrs of my day devoted to my dick.

Don't worry about lasting an hour or so... From what I've found is that as long as you can "last" for as long as you want to and cum on cue, then that is all that matters... Every now and then you might decide to see what you are made of by breaking your own pesonal recored...lol...

Keep up the good work dude!

 

[instinktiv]

excellent thread - sounds like someone has discovered nlp!

NLP (neuro-linguistics-programming) is good... It started, in my opinion, a new path of possibilities or even reminded man kind of their own "personal power"... But it doesn't hold a candle to the fact that if you understand the underlying principles of human psychology and how they interact with "higher-power/consciousness", then all the NLP, DHE, NHR, ETC... becomes obsolete! I have a couple of books I'm in the process of writing that will more thouroughly explain what I'm talking about...

It's good to see other people on this forum interested in the "human potential" "area"...

Cheers

 

[instinktiv]

Damn this is awesome stuff Slicedbeef! I am blessed with a big dick but sometimes my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] sucks. I have always been rather inconsistent. Sometimes I can last an hour straight fucking no problem, other times I put it in and cant go a few minutes. I tried this method yesterday and damn its a workout! I have no doubt that this will work, I tried actually moving around into different positions that I would use in real life to make it more realistic. I think I went about a half hour at most and then couldnt take it anymore lol. A few questions....

When you feel you are gonna cum, is it ok to just stop totally for a minute or better to just loosen the grip and slow down?

How long did it take for you to see improvement?

Thanks!

When you feel like you are gonna cum...and you cant go any longer without a reasonable doubt, then instead of continuing with the "physical stimulation" continue with the thrusting action and imagine (visual, physical and auditory) that you are fucking...

Just hold on and continue with purely mental imagination while performing purly physcial thrusting....

All is it is is an interaction between physical and mental...and when those two realms interact in a harmonious way for the same benefit then that is when your desired results will "be"...

 

[medici999]

Bumping this!
Great read

 

[medici999]

Ill keep trying this as isnt working for me yet.

 

[Simyan]

Goldust!