DLD... current size???

My feeling is that people will always exagerate and there's no way around it. I just don't agree with the complaining when guys happen to question their claims. I feel like if you state an impressive figure, you know it will catch attention and some will want proof, so no whining when the inevitable comes to pass.

I also agree that girth measurement could easily be faked. I think that probably gets bullshitted around just as much as length by some, but like you point out, there's not much to be done. It's not a huge issue, but seriously, there's no harm in asking a guy who just tosses around massive length or girth if he can prove it.

The idea of an environment that could possibly question claims is a scary one, because I think ultimately a pretty good percentage out there are full of shit. Doesn't necessarily hurt anybody, but sure doesn't help anyone either. And, the more guys that can prove they're mature adults and don't spend their time leading some kind of penis based fantasy on the internet, the better the site and Penis Enlargement look as a whole. Like another poster said, when people just run around stating wild sizes and gains and refuse to verify, it sure makes it look a lot like some other less credible internet groups.
 
But on the same hypocritical side of things to worry about something as artificial as the size of your penis, to scream about accuracy in measurement and all these other things associated with it, it just doesn't make sense why if I claim to have a 6.5 when I have a 6.25 what does that honestly matter. I could be embarrased to share that size so I bump it a bit, now I will give you someone claiming 8 + could provide info regarding how they got there as well as a pic or two. Why all the scrutiny though? What point is there to prove in all honesty by refuting someone's claim? What is there to be gained from it? Absolutely nothing.

I have made no radical claims, so I have no reason to step out and defend myself adimantly on any level. I'm merely stating the reality that IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW BIG YOUR Penis EnlargementNIS IS....it only matters to the owner. That is the truth when it comes right down to the bottom of the issue. Personally speaking I do not care if the guy standing next to me at the bus stop has a 10" wang, it does not effect my day, nor do I even think about life in that context, so this forum for me is no different. I really don't care, and it does not matter. I got into Penis Enlargement to see if I could make my average member into something more, and I have done just that, but I set a goal that I am working towards and I will be satisfied at that point. I realize that it is not for my wife nor for anyone else but me. Maybe Penis Enlargement can make progress with this more honest approach, and honest measurements being part of it, but it's been doing pretty well so far, so who is to make the change in policy since it's all free and out there for anyone to try?
 
I wouldn't say anybody is arguing for some kind of drastic 'policy change,' since I don't think there's a formal policy in the first place. What there is though, is an informal policy against ever questioning anything somebody posts, especially if they have posted a few times.

Like I said, my personal gripe is just when guys piss and moan about having their claims questioned when they refuse to prove it. I'm not sheepish about saying that I think this site is a lot like most everywhere else on the internet in that there are a lot of pretty sad saps hanging around pretending to have bigger dongs than they really do for some reason. I think this site doesn't have as many because of the generally mature attitude, but I think it would be even less so if the environment wasn't so totally permissive, and by that I mean not getting bent out of shape if somebody says "I don't quite believe that, can you prove it?"

Does bullshitting about size hurt anybody? Of course not. But like AC pointed out, this is a penis enlargement website, and many men are concerned about the size of other guys. I think the healthiest thing for any guy having penis size issues is to better understand what true averages are, and a site full of guys sitting around complaining that they're only 8X6 or whatever does create a different sort of atmosphere. If you don't think Penis Enlargement is all about penis size, then we've gone off the self-help metaphysical deep end around these parts.

There's tons of threads here wondering about the average size and guys complaining about a girl's possibly well-hung ex-lovers, and guys very much concerned with other guy's dicks. Not everybody cares, but plenty do, and I see it as pretty oversimplified to just say "hey, everybody should just be worried about themselves." That's not how it is in reality, and that's not even really how it is on this site.
 
millionman said:
...if I claim to have a 6.5 when I have a 6.25 what does that honestly matter. I could be embarrased to share that size so I bump it a bit...

What point is there to prove in all honesty by refuting someone's claim? What is there to be gained from it? Absolutely nothing.
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It matters if the Penis Enlargement community is trying to gain credibility. If there is an inherent permissiveness of misreporting, i.e. wink and nod at a fudge factor, then no one outside of our community is going to take what we do seriously. Granted, not everyone cares whether Penis Enlargement is ever taken seriously, but there are some here who do - hence the focus of this thread.

Btw, there is an easy way to confirm girth measurements: measure girth and width, either from the top only or from the side and top (then take the average). The penis is more or less a cylinder, so girth can be approximated mathematically from the diameter (width) measurement by multiplying it by pi.

width x 3.1416 = ~girth

Cheers!
 
Just my 2 cents...

I think some people here are honest and some are full of shit. Just like every other facet of life. You have your mods that have "power" egos here. Just like you have to deal with people like that in life. I don't get so wrapped up in it... I just don't care. If that's what these people need to give meaning to their life, then go for it.

I agree that if you claim a huge stat and refuse to post a measured pic, you should not whine about doubters questionig you. I'm not trying to turn this into Red-bashing thread, but if you look at his pics next to the can (a soft drink can is 4.75" tall btw), it doesn't look (to me) like he has another 3+" of dick below the can (hard to say for sure, but I tried to ID the vein patterns in both pics as a ref). Another thing, if you take the 2.1" wide comment from his sig and apply the std formula that Grave noted above you get a girth of just under 6.6". If the dick was a perfect cylinder, the width would have to be a hair over 2.25" to get 7.1". Does this prove he's not the size he claims? No, he may be as big as he claims, but it does give reason people to doubt. Red has every right not to post measured pics, but claiming huge size and posting crappy inconclusive pics is worse than no pics at all, to a lot of people.

Yes, it is hard for some to get a raging boner when taking a measured pic (I know from experience), but you can show a lot with a 80% hard on, or you can measure clamped, like Titelist did in his thread.

Overall, I really don't care that much. Do I think Red fudges his #s? Yes I do, but pobably not a lot. That doesn't mean he is not a valuable member of the forum. And as was noted earlier, unsubstantiated claims really don't do anything to legitimize Penis Enlargement to the outside world, but that's fine with me. I have no interest in it catching on widespread. If I were D, I would want Red to post some clear measured pics (even if not fully erect), BUT, then again, even if people do prove their huge sizes, you will still have doubters that say, 'He was just born big, Penis Enlargement didn't do that.' That's just human nature.
 
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Good post Tex.

Texan said:
BUT, then again, even if people do prove their huge sizes, you will still have doubters that say, 'He was just born big, Penis Enlargement didn't do that.' That's just human nature.
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This is the point of documenting early, accurately, and consistently, but you're right, some people will just never believe that Penis Enlargement works.

Fuck 'em :D
 
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The whole issue on the "policy" change was a reference to the growth state of Penis Enlargement as it is growing and continues to do so, as long as men are concerned with this area they will continue to seek out answers.

My whole point about whether or not someone is telling the truth is that if this guy wants to lie about it, and later be found to be a fraud then that is his business, as was the case with horsehung over at thunder's. That was embarrassing to say the least, if you ask me. Again, does it really matter in my everyday life? Absolutely not, and in all honesty it should not matter what an ex-lovers size was, the reality is the woman is not with him, but with you. What most men fail to realize is that women respond to us, not us to them and that's one of the major areas where men can not seem to grasp reality. If you're asking your woman about some other guy and wanting to know blah blah blah, then she's going to see your insecurity and if it becomes a big enough issue she will grow weary of it and you and then she'll leave. Woman in many ways are an enigma to us, and that's the way we were made. They very much want a man to stand up and be a man, to lead the way. I hear that more often than not from girls that I know and am good friends with.

The best point I can make though is that we as men Penis Enlargement for ourselves and for our confidence. In some ways it involves the women in our lives, but it is not a reflection of us onto them, so don't make it that. Size is all in your head, so get over yourself and do the work, that's it.

As far as pics and what not, it's an issue, and one that I do not think has a resolution as long as people will and won't do certain things then we will never know, and the doubts won't be cleared up. That's just how it is.
 
Without getting into this debate I'd like to share some of my personal obstacles regarding measurement. Most of what I'm going to say is already posted on my progress log, but may be of interest to those that have not read it.

Here goes: While I don't have any difficulty measuring BPenis EnlargementL or EW, it is close to impossible for me to sustain an erection while trying to measure EG. My dick starts to go limp as soon as the measuring tape goes around. Forget about taking a picture - it just won't happen. Yes, this is obviously a psychological issue - not a physical one. I even went so far as to beg some viagra off my dad so I could measure my EG. I only got 4 pills and have used two already experimenting with my wife ( I gave her half a pill and took half myself the first time). I can get quick erections and maintain them for both sex and Penis Enlargement work. But touch that tape around my dick and watch the "world's fastest shrinking penis." This effect is worse when I am trying to take a picture or am concerned about gains. Because of this issue, I always try to be conservative when stating my EG. i.e. - I try to take the EG measurement as fast as I can before my dick goes limp.
lol
I have not tried to measure EG while on viagra yet, but will try eventually. Personally, I don't like the stuff.
One of these days I'd like to get my wife to be the one to measure my girth and try taking a picture that way. So far she has been resistant and won't help out.

In conclusion, until I can find a way to consistently and accurately measure EG, you won't be seeing any girth pics posted. I MAY post an erect pic when I hit 7" BPenis EnlargementL.

Regards,

HOOS
 
HOOSYODADDI said:
One of these days I'd like to get my wife to be the one to measure my girth and try taking a picture that way. So far she has been resistant and won't help out.

HOOS
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if i were to take pictures that is exactly what i would do...my girl knows i pe and make sure i am doing the exercises..cuz sometimes it is easy to slack off...when i want to measure...she holds the ruler for me...it would be great if everyone had somebody like that...but first i guess you have to be honest with your other...hoosyodaddi just keep asking be persistent but not pushy...let her know how much it would mean to you if she helped out...that might get her to relax
 
twins172_up said:
if i were to take pictures that is exactly what i would do...my girl knows i pe and make sure i am doing the exercises..cuz sometimes it is easy to slack off...when i want to measure...she holds the ruler for me...it would be great if everyone had somebody like that...but first i guess you have to be honest with your other...hoosyodaddi just keep asking be persistent but not pushy...let her know how much it would mean to you if she helped out...that might get her to relax
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Thanks. Guess I'll keep trying. At the least, we'll know if measuring girth works better with my wife holding the tape :s
 
I dont mind what anyone thinks, I agree I open myself to people thinking it wont be what it is, but so what!
I know what I have, it is exactly what I say and said it was.
If someone doesnt belive that than SO WHAT!
I aint arsed what anyone thinks.
If I did oneday post pictures measured they would STILL BE THOSE who say they dont belive it.....if I posted the video it would be the same shit, I've seen it with DLD.
At the end of the day, some members here need to start thinking more about there size and stop getting so interested in ohers stats....so what, who cares what the other guy is packing...I dont give a shit what you guys pack, I only care what I pack.
If DLD is fake, I dont think he is...but say he was, than I dont give a shit, doesnt bother me.
Its true what Still said, that when you get LARGE you get more of a crowd....if I were small than no one would be arsed...be honest!
Oneday later this year I might post a picture with a tape measure....but I dont think it will be enough....if you dont belive, than you dont belive.
I really dont know why some of you are so concerned about other guys stats.....if they lie, than its there loss...they just fooling themselves and makeing a shit of themselves also.
 
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AncientChina said:
This isn't a question of overall intelligence. If you had said, "Would I be so delusional to claim such stats and then shoot a grainy picture by a can", I would still disagree, and say no, because nothing is really being exposed. If I took a picture by a midget, again the height comparison, I wouldn't be exposing any damning evidence, now would I?

I don't understand 2 years ago you claimed 7.4" girth, correct? Either you haven't seen any gains since then or you lost .3" of an inch? Click Here So you do measure, surely no one could guestimate down to the 12th of an inch? I remember hearing girth measurements of 7.8 and I believe 8" inches in the past as well.

Anyone can see, anyone can assume. I just don't see the point of trying to prove a point taking pictures but feeling that totally proving it is just too against someone's principle et cetera....Again this issue isn't something I pay huge amounts of mental capacity too, do I truly care? No, and I haven't made it an issue in the past, but if the question arises I am going to ask "why the bullshit". If that question affects and deeply bothers a good amount here, then why?
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It was TEMP gains, I explained it in many thread.
 
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