Can the BM n The LM replace most of the manual exercises..

[GirthGains]

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[LONGERDICK7+]

maybe? i dont know how many jelqs would equal one 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] perhaps 300 jelqs? I dont know if you can even compare them. Even if you had a mastery over PE and a good mind-body connection how can you compare manuals and devices, for me manuals are to move blood and maintain erection and the devices are the heavy duty work. clamping is a whole other kind of expansion it seems because you are working vascularity and EQ. to me its comparing apples and oranges because imo there should be a place for everything

Agree whit your words i think the devices are for the stubborn penis and the skeptical minds,i have been using hands only,lately whit the devices things are a bit more interesting..n they make me feel that gains are easier to get but yeah theres a place for evrything..

 

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I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] can get us permanent gains after a reasinable period of time using the device...girth n lenght we can gain both IMHO

 

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[huge-girth]

yep ive realized that its way easier to focus on one thing first i get to obsessive sometimes cause want to get both but its not an easy thing...

It's happening to me too whenever I'm thinking about my future penis size and imagining banging a chick, I just feel like doing both exercises at once but doing one exercise first is the surest way to go. Hopefully, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X50[/words] will come out this year.

 

[DLD]

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meaning ??? isnt it clear enough already ??? lol

 

[huge-girth]

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[GirthGains]

I honestly feel a proper, intense manual girth routine can never be trumped by any device. My best girth sessions were intense manual squeezes followed by clamping.

In my mind the only thing that is better than a manual girth routine would be a cock crusher device. But of course I believe manual girth routines should be done as well. Extreme caution should be used if these are attempted. Only for the well condition cock as these use a clamp plush a crushing device to widen and girthen the penis.THESE SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED TELL YOUR PENIS IS USED TO CLAMPING OR INJURY MAY CAN OCCUR. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/printthread.php?t=51698&pp=20

 

[pogzee]

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lol coming soon can be a while also like 2-3 months also

 

[DLD]

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Well if is coming out, as usual, we will get first go at buying them before they are sold worldwide.

 

[youknowme123321]

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[acromegaly]

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[pogzee]

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what do you mean by perfect fitted [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ??? if the pump is bigger than your dick and when you pump you dick comfortably fits inside in length and girth then whats the issue ???
yes three sizes are there for obvious reasons.....well i am fine with this.....
but yes your suggestion can be helpful for all those who want perfect fiitted ones..

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

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[LONGERDICK7+]

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[huge-girth]

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[DLD]

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[LONGERDICK7+]

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