Whassup ya'll here is my progress thread
I wanna gain exactly 1 inch in length and 1 inch in girth in 7 months time
To be honest girth can be less but im going to exagerate right now
I know i can gain 1 inch in length in 7 months, this should not be too much of a challenge but in the girth departement im unexperienced, so there i'll need your help

Equipment that i got :
Hands
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words]
Bib hanger
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power assist[/words]
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]

For right now my routine will be following: stretching 3x down, down left, down right, up, up left, up right with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words]
3x bundled stretches
3x cranks

Then 1.5 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]

Then dld blasters followed by 1 set of ots hanging on each shoulder

Then 3 hours of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]
 
I really like your routine! Great job! Over time you can steadily increase the time you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] on. :) Good luck and I hope you succeed!
 
Yo mizzey, put yo pp in tha powa assizy. Then if u wanna get fat just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slowsquashjelq[/words], that is if u can XDCDXD. If ur a noob u can't so just do some jelquing/ base squeezing to condition yourself a little.

Getting girth is so fun man dont even worry about that. I dont just stretching is a pain in tha ass, its cool u have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]

PE is cool dawg,but please train safe
 
Awesome results. What's cool about seeing results fast is that you and those you please really can tell. Keep it up, and here's to reaching our goals!
 
Are you having OTS SU or BTC? 20min sets?

Routine doesn't look bad. Would try to get in as much hanging sets as possible if the time is available. Can pulley hanging @ your desk as well if you just don't like standing up when hanging.
 
smerc;617444 said:
Are you having OTS SU or BTC? 20min sets?

Routine doesn't look bad. Would try to get in as much hanging sets as possible if the time is available. Can pulley hanging @ your desk as well if you just don't like standing up when hanging.

what are your results and timeframe(example: 1 year, etc) of hanging? equipment and briefly define routine?
 
AM: 18min manual routine.
then [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 8+hours (some days I can't use it, but I average around 7-8 hours).
PM: 18min manual routine.
Sleep w/ [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to AM until next manual routine.

I do side-to-side w/ the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] until I get SD/SU leg straps.

I'm saving funds for an LG hanger. Was having problems w/ the bibs.

Gains are around .6-.7" BPEL over the span of 1year 2months.
Ive only had the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for around 2months. Until then it was just manuals 2x a day @ 18min.

I don't have a official girth routine other than edging, which is netted me .4-.5" over the same time span.

I'm going to target most of my efforts into chemPE. Just currently sourcing information/peptide providers.
I also have a curve which is the result of a plaque buildup. So I'm also going to be targeting that as well.
 
growtime;617442 said:
Awesome results. What's cool about seeing results fast is that you and those you please really can tell. Keep it up, and here's to reaching our goals!

This is what im trying to gain
 
smerc;617444 said:
Are you having OTS SU or BTC? 20min sets?

Routine doesn't look bad. Would try to get in as much hanging sets as possible if the time is available. Can pulley hanging @ your desk as well if you just don't like standing up when hanging.

Im hanging OTS SU
But this whole routine takes 7 hours so i dont know about more hanging sets
Maybe i can do 3 sets on each shoulder and go only 1.5 in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words]
What ya'll think ?
 
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mza;617414 said:
Whassup ya'll here is my progress thread
I wanna gain exactly 1 inch in length and 1 inch in girth in 7 months time
To be honest girth can be less but im going to exagerate right now
I know i can gain 1 inch in length in 7 months, this should not be too much of a challenge but in the girth departement im unexperienced, so there i'll need your help

Equipment that i got :
Hands
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words]
Bib hanger
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power assist[/words]
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]

For right now my routine will be following: stretching 3x down, down left, down right, up, up left, up right with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words]
3x bundled stretches
3x cranks

Then 1.5 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]

Then dld blasters followed by 1 set of ots hanging on each shoulder

Then 3 hours of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]

Looks good for length but I see no girth work in this, how will you be using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]?
 
smerc;617457 said:
AM: 18min manual routine.
then [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 8+hours (some days I can't use it, but I average around 7-8 hours).
PM: 18min manual routine.
Sleep w/ [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to AM until next manual routine.

I do side-to-side w/ the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] until I get SD/SU leg straps.

I'm saving funds for an LG hanger. Was having problems w/ the bibs.

Gains are around .6-.7" BPEL over the span of 1year 2months.
Ive only had the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for around 2months. Until then it was just manuals 2x a day @ 18min.

I don't have a official girth routine other than edging, which is netted me .4-.5" over the same time span.

I'm going to target most of my efforts into chemPE. Just currently sourcing information/peptide providers.
I also have a curve which is the result of a plaque buildup. So I'm also going to be targeting that as well.

By manual routine u mean hand stretches? Are u using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for both [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and hanging, is this a multi-purpose device?

The gains seem ok, but strikes as a bit under-expected considering all the hours, but still good.

And why are going to chemPE, i mean it's cool for the chem knowledge, but is worth the testing if manual or tool-assisted girth exercises add great size if done well in technique and moderate intensity? are u hoping to find a quick jump, it seems imbalanced for the body this way...
 
I probably should had PM'd. I feel like I'm crapping on his routine thread.

Manual as in hand. Using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS. I did try hanging w/ it and it was awesome. I much prefer vac type hangers which is why I liked it, so that is why I'm holding out for the LG when I get some money in. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a multi-purpose device (ADS/ANS and hanging up to 7lbs (more if you purchase a silicone sleeve and modify the tension clip that goes around the bell)).

I'm not that intense w/ the workouts

Doing chemPE or wanting to do chemPE because I see it as the future of PE. You can really only manipulate the penis so much w/ devices IMO, but you can see amazing gains even from just this as DLD and others prove. With chems, you can alter/increase the rate of remodeling tissue/cells faster than any other means out there. If I don't end up doing it, then I will still have the knowledge in case someone else wanted information. Useless knowledge since it didn't go into practice, but I still find chemPE fascinating. You also do your regular routines along side chemPE so you're not out of the woods just cause you did an injection. There needs to be signals given by applying pressure/tension to the tissues/cells.

You're correct, it's not necessary as there are tools that can give you good size increases already. I just think you can get to a certain point in PE and there is a barrier of entry to a certain gain threshold that is very difficult to reach via regular PE. I just see chemPE as being able to jump that barrier.
 
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doublelongdaddy;617476 said:
Looks good for length but I see no girth work in this, how will you be using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]?

Once i gain the last 0.4 inches in length i will completely change my routine and i will do a more girth oriented routine
For me it is easier to split length and girth not because one hinders the other but it gives me more focus on one thing
My girth routine will probably be super sets in the AM and in the PM and i will try to increase the number of sets
 
mza;617538 said:
Once i gain the last 0.4 inches in length i will completely change my routine and i will do a more girth oriented routine
For me it is easier to split length and girth not because one hinders the other but it gives me more focus on one thing
My girth routine will probably be super sets in the AM and in the PM and i will try to increase the number of sets

OK, I see, that is a good plan.
 
smerc;617514 said:
I probably should had PM'd. I feel like I'm crapping on his routine thread.

Manual as in hand. Using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS. I did try hanging w/ it and it was awesome. I much prefer vac type hangers which is why I liked it, so that is why I'm holding out for the LG when I get some money in. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a multi-purpose device (ADS/ANS and hanging up to 7lbs (more if you purchase a silicone sleeve and modify the tension clip that goes around the bell)).

I'm not that intense w/ the workouts

Doing chemPE or wanting to do chemPE because I see it as the future of PE. You can really only manipulate the penis so much w/ devices IMO, but you can see amazing gains even from just this as DLD and others prove. With chems, you can alter/increase the rate of remodeling tissue/cells faster than any other means out there. If I don't end up doing it, then I will still have the knowledge in case someone else wanted information. Useless knowledge since it didn't go into practice, but I still find chemPE fascinating. You also do your regular routines along side chemPE so you're not out of the woods just cause you did an injection. There needs to be signals given by applying pressure/tension to the tissues/cells.

You're correct, it's not necessary as there are tools that can give you good size increases already. I just think you can get to a certain point in PE and there is a barrier of entry to a certain gain threshold that is very difficult to reach via regular PE. I just see chemPE as being able to jump that barrier.

It's interesting to learn, but I would urge you to reconsider injecting chemicals b/c at the end of the day you don't know how it's made or how certain compounds will react with the chemistry of your body. Ideally they would do good damage so that the penis heals well to a larger level, but another possibility is inheriting long-term or chronic damage. They can come up with any scientific claims. Even the legit companies all have disclaimers that protect them from lawsuits. I'll have to look at the Chem forum to rate the success stories but on the exercise sections we know there is a lot of positive solid proof. TBH, this makes me wonder if Shane Diesel does chemPE like injections b/c first I thought maybe he pumps like crazy, but considering his erections don't stand up-right it leads me to believe his pelvic muscles may be weak, and that the possible injection sites all over the external penis is what makes it so engorged.
 
smerc;617514 said:
I probably should had PM'd. I feel like I'm crapping on his routine thread.

Manual as in hand. Using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS. I did try hanging w/ it and it was awesome. I much prefer vac type hangers which is why I liked it, so that is why I'm holding out for the LG when I get some money in. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a multi-purpose device (ADS/ANS and hanging up to 7lbs (more if you purchase a silicone sleeve and modify the tension clip that goes around the bell)).

I'm not that intense w/ the workouts

Doing chemPE or wanting to do chemPE because I see it as the future of PE. You can really only manipulate the penis so much w/ devices IMO, but you can see amazing gains even from just this as DLD and others prove. With chems, you can alter/increase the rate of remodeling tissue/cells faster than any other means out there. If I don't end up doing it, then I will still have the knowledge in case someone else wanted information. Useless knowledge since it didn't go into practice, but I still find chemPE fascinating. You also do your regular routines along side chemPE so you're not out of the woods just cause you did an injection. There needs to be signals given by applying pressure/tension to the tissues/cells.

You're correct, it's not necessary as there are tools that can give you good size increases already. I just think you can get to a certain point in PE and there is a barrier of entry to a certain gain threshold that is very difficult to reach via regular PE. I just see chemPE as being able to jump that barrier.

ChemPE seems like steroid Olympia style bodybuilding. It will get you quicker results but in the end it's effects will not have been worth it. That end may be years down the road just like with steroids but a man could enjoy the benefits for a time at least. I can't imagine doing it myself. Way to risky. Injects so e stuff you thought was one but it's not and next thing you know necrosis of part of your cock. Or just a cock that doesn't work. Or who knows!!! I volunteer Somerville for this and will read everything you post on it. If you ever do it.
 
I understand the consequences. Vasodilators would be more of a definite over anything else that could go systemic and cause long term effects. PRP looks even more exciting since it's your own blood being re-injected, but Ive yet to see any concrete evidence of it's authenticity in regards to PE claims. A few here and there, but they could had been shills.
 
Vasodilators can be taken very safely. Unlikely to have long term negative side effects. Possible though. Any negative side effects from vasodilator Are more likely to be acute. Haven't read anything on prp for PE. I'm guessing it was shills because prp is extremely expensive. I don't think prp will have have a place in chemPE. Unless a serious tissue injury occurs in which case it would possibly speed healing.
 
Barnstool123;617641 said:
Vasodilators can be taken very safely. Unlikely to have long term negative side effects. Possible though. Any negative side effects from vasodilator Are more likely to be acute. Haven't read anything on prp for PE. I'm guessing it was shills because prp is extremely expensive. I don't think prp will have have a place in chemPE. Unless a serious tissue injury occurs in which case it would possibly speed healing.

It will have a place. It has around 7-8 growth factors. You would just need to DIY w/ a centrifuge. Otherwise it's $1k+ unless you travel overseas.
 
smerc;617655 said:
It will have a place. It has around 7-8 growth factors. You would just need to DIY w/ a centrifuge. Otherwise it's $1k+ unless you travel overseas.

I don't think anyone's going to find a doc who will do it for a 1000$. A doc here in Boston did my friends Achilles' tendon for 3k. Didn't provide him with any improvement unfortunately. It was done before US docs were heating up the plasma. Just because there are growth factors present doesn't mean it will result in the growth gains like we are working for with PE. And injections are done with months in between. PRP just doesn't match up with PE unless there is a tissue injury to the penis. And a prp injection somewhere into the penis won't necessarily spread evenly throughout the penis. I just believe it is very unlikely prp will be a part of a chemPE routine. There is a lot mor PE to proper prp treatment the. Just removing blood, spinning it, then injecting it. It needs to be heated up to produce the immune response needed for successful treatment. It is much less likely to work if this step is not done. Luckily though doctors in the US are now doing this. There weren't allowed to when this technique first began being used in the US. Which is great so everyone doesn't have to fly to Germany to have it done properly.
 
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I didn't mean to correlate it having growth factors to it being successful. Instead, just having a place in chemPE, be it successful or not. A lot of current chems have their place ATM, but don't live up to the science behind them in relation to PE. Then again, a lot of people were reporting bunk peptides. However, nobody from what I know actually ponied up the money to take things to a lab to report whether or not a provider was reputable. That's where a big problem lies as well. Also not sure on their COA statuses either.

The docs that were doing it for $1k were doing it through the trial phase I think. Not sure if that's a nationwide thing or if it's just a doctor trial thing and them introducing it to their services w/ the help of guinea pigs. Some people got the injections for more than $1k, then following injections were around $1k. Probably cause most results were bunk. Either way, I wouldn't pay to get it done unless reputable people were reporting results. I agree w/ the tissue thing as it was initially used for peyronies corrections and it seems like those people had the best results (if the photos are not skewed). Wasn't aware of the heating issues. I thought the premix stuff that you put into the blood dealt w/ the bodies responses to the new prp/growth factors. I also seen them state the use of hyaluronic acid, but I think I seen a necrosis report w/ that or at least one of them. Do you know if it was a body temperature thing or something to mimic inflammation?
 
I never saw anything on hyaluronic acid but think that's a bad idea. Heating up the plasma is simply just giving it a fever to trigger a greater healing immune response. When heated it is up to 100x more anti-inflammatory then just prp alone. It is called orthokine. Developed in Germany. This is the one all the athletes have done over in Germany. They aren't just having a doc do prp here. Prp without the heating process can be done more frequently. Orthokine is done months apart if needed.
 
mza;618062 said:
Do ya'll think its better 2 sets hanging and only 1.5 extending or 1 set hanging and 3 hours extending

I would vary it week to week changing routine every other week in order to get the most out of both types of hanging. This will keep things interesting and more fun in its variations, which will help you stay motivated and not get bored.
 
doublelongdaddy;618064 said:
I would vary it week to week changing routine every other week in order to get the most out of both types of hanging. This will keep things interesting and more fun in its variations, which will help you stay motivated and not get bored.

Yes maybe this way i can shock new gains
 
True because your penis would be doing something different every week so it should shock it consistently.
 
Today is a rest day
From tomorrow on i will include jelqing before i go to sleep
I will start with 400
 
Most likely just some fatigue from training. You could take time off if you are planning on sex, maybe 24 hours of rest, to get yourself back to 100%. Otherwise I would not worry too much, when fatigued it is a great time to get as much length in as you can to take advantage of the weakness of the pelvic floor muscles.
 
Zambrodom3;619445 said:
Congrats! Make sure to make a review! :)

Definitely a big congratulations, this is such a big step in length work. Looking forward to your reviews. Make sure you prepare yourself for wrapping by looking through the various wrapping styles, this will be the biggest learning curve in using your new [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. The better the wrap the more intensity you can apply.
 
How long does the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] delivery usually take cause it hasnt arrived yet
 
mza;621923 said:
How long does the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] delivery usually take cause it hasnt arrived yet

I remember LIGHTNING saying the shipping details are perfect. You need to reach him I guess. :)
 
mza;621923 said:
How long does the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] delivery usually take cause it hasnt arrived yet

7 days is usually the most time it will take.
 
Its been 2 months [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] still isnt here
Have contacted [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] support a few times they said they sent it out but nothing has arrived
 
mza;629370 said:
Its been 2 months [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] still isnt here
Have contacted [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] support a few times they said they sent it out but nothing has arrived

I just sent a message to Lightning, he should respond soon.
 
mza;629370 said:
Its been 2 months [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] still isnt here
Have contacted [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] support a few times they said they sent it out but nothing has arrived

Did you get your tracking number? Please PM me your full name, address and email and I will see what happened.
 
LIGHTNING;629495 said:
Did you get your tracking number? Please PM me your full name, address and email and I will see what happened.

Yes tracking number i have and it says delivered but nothing actually arrived
 
Barnstool123;617641 said:
Vasodilators can be taken very safely. Unlikely to have long term negative side effects. Possible though. Any negative side effects from vasodilator Are more likely to be acute. Haven't read anything on prp for PE. I'm guessing it was shills because prp is extremely expensive. I don't think prp will have have a place in chemPE. Unless a serious tissue injury occurs in which case it would possibly speed healing.

there are natural vasodilators also in food......
 
mza I hope you'll get that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] soon, good luck with it.
 
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