True size not always available

Hi guys,

Been wanting to ask this question for a while, but finally have the time to post it. My routine is simple: get in 10+hrs. a week of hanging with a bib, followed by 10-15 minutes of jelqing. Results are good. However, I do not believe I reach my full potential every time I get an erection. Case in point, my mid-girth is measured around 4.75in. on an average basis, but I do believe to be bigger then that. Several years ago, I was feeling pretty frisky 1 night, and was getting a very strong erection. I don't know how, but I became much harder, thicker, and bigger then I ever was. I was ridiculously huge. Unfortunately, not only did I not measure my size that time, but I was never able to get to that peak again....until 4 weeks ago. I was relaxing 1 Friday evening, and started to get horny. Now, I wasn't masturbating, I just let the erection build up in my Pjs. Finally, when I pulled it out, it looked liked that monster I had years ago. I was excited. So, I quickly got my measuring tape, and measured my girth. 6.5in. mid-girth, with a 7in. base girth. (I didn't measured my length, just focusing on girth at that time). Since then, I was unable to get back to that size.

I tried making observations, such as how times I "released" that week, how much water I drank during the week, how much stimulation I injested, etc. Here are some details below:

- First off, I typically release once a week. I'm not seeing a chick at the time, so i'm not that sexually active. In fact, I kinda feel dirty masturbating so I try not to do it that often, lol. I only release once a week because after 4-5 days, I get insanely horny and "take care of my self" so I can have a clear mind afterwards. However, the weeks before I achieved that 6.5in mid-girth, I was releasing 2-3x a week. There was 1 day where I even came 7 times. Yes, 7. After the first 4 orgasms, I was still horny but my parents came home, so I decided to stop. But, considering how horny I was, I went to the bathroom, and did it 3 more times.

- I was wearing a cockring. I started wearing cockring(s) since Jan., to see any noticeable differences with my sizes. While the cockrings slightly improved my erection quality ever time I got hard, and enhanced my orgasms 10 fold, they never really gave me that monster girth I got those 2 times (Again, first time was a couple of years ago, and the second time was 4 weeks ago). But, I happened to have been wearing a cockring that night (the second time I achieved the 6.fin mid-girth).

- I also started to drink a lot of water. I've been working out for over a decade, so my nutrition is sound, but I started to drink between 1.5-2 gallons a day. I'm not sure if this attributed to my monster girth that day, but I started to drink that much 1-2 weeks prior to getting that monster girth

- I do consume stimulants. I take a pre-workout (jack3d), and take caffeine pills instead of drinking coffee (hate coffee). I know too much stimulant consumption can limit penis size, so I'm always careful on how much caffeine I take.

- Also, I weight between 6-12+hrs. to cum after I hang. I don't want to screw up any chances of gains, so I wait a while before I want to get dirty. I remember on both accounts of getting that monster girth, it was well passed 12+hrs. after hanging that I got the monster erection. However, I want to point out that most of the time, I do wait close to, or atleast 12hrs. after hanging to cum. So, i'm not sure if time plays a factor

So, guys....this is my dilemma. I know I'm never my true potential every time I sport an erection, but do you guys know of any way of achieving that true potential size? That'll of course be very helpful when I do start dating someone.

I remember reading a comment by Dash in the "Hardcore Hanging" sticky, and he mentioned that the more frequent erections/orgasms he gets weekly, the girthier his dick as gotten. After my second time of being a monster, I kind of fell back and began releasing only once a week. Maybe I should cum more often on a weekly basis? I believe he made a good point: The less you use it, the more prone it will be to atrophy.

I hope I haven't left any important details out, other then the fact that I'm 29. I do not do any exercises for girth. My hanging is strictly for length, all in BTC angle. Not sure if anyone buy's into the LOT theory, but my LOT is at 10 (coordinated with Bib in determining my LOT). Results have been pretty good, when I stay consistent with my hanging.

But I feel the results I achieve won't mean a thing unless my dick is at it's maximum potential when it's time to play!

If I remember any other piece of info, I will come back and edit my original thread and post it. Also, if you guys need additional info. from me to help better assess my problem, please do not hesitate to ask.

Thank you.


P.S. If anyone was curious, I've been "properly" hanging since last April. And by properly hanging, I mean my wrapping technique and hanger position is now good. I also uncut.

Ahh, also forgot: I try to get in 500+ kegels a day, broken down to 100 kegels per set.

Great post, you've sure given this some thought. I tend to feel the same but I'm only new to PE but believe my quality of erection varies and I rarely get to maximum since I began. I'll watch with interest what other more knowledgable members suggest and throw in my thoughts if it helps anyone. Maybe my dick is just tired LOL

Thanks.

I was actually thinking, that it may be my EQ that's not at it's best. If that's the case, then my EQ hasn't been good for years. In fact, my EQ was only fantastic twice in the passed few years: 1st time years ago, (while I was still hanging), and the 2nd time 4 weeks ago.

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fascinating read and disturbing,too. How the heck does one measure such enormous, such monstrous difference?! I mean 1,75 inches? That's breathtaking (to put it mildly).
Like your scientific stance, though in the light of these ridiculously significant statistical outliers that these two events are I have real trouble to view them as sufficient explanations.
I've always measured more or less the same and believe me: as a girth nerd with about 1,5 years experience I'm very familiar with PE induced Eq problems. But variations never surpassed the 0,1" mark.
Sure you haven't dreamed the same dream twice? Just joking.
but this simply transcends my imagination.
Please keep us posted.

Try this wntsgain, .. get a 250gram tub of PrimaForce's Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (should be around $20 for 125 servings) and take a heaping scoop (about 3 grams) of it in water twice per day for several days in a row .. and see if you're not in a constant semi-chub state with bigger flaccid hang and extremely fully erections. Might want to add some zinc picolinate while you're at it.

Good stuff. If I do that (for working out) my dick starts getting on my nerves cos it's always in the way.

Did you say what your length is? You said that you don't train girth but I didn't catch a length size.

I think you should go ahead and train girth at the same time. You might want to put that off until seeing what the AAKG ^ will do for your engorgement, because girth training can mess with erection quality ... but training length and girth at the same time can give you faster gains in both, and it's possible to have too small of a girth to length ratio where your penis can be subject to sudden catastrophic harm (getting bent in half and maybe 'broken') cos it wasn't thick enough, as a ratio, to be properly strong.

If the AAKG makes a -gigantic- difference, then you might want to examine why your normal nitric/epithelial response (when not taking it) is off by that much. If so PM me and I'll expound.

Last thought offhand, what kind of water are you drinking in those amounts? (I do more than a gallon personally, and also 'WaterCure', so good job on the amounts, u just need to watch the sources.) Tap water is going to be doing you harm from its toxin payloads, and distilled water (bless its heart) is going to be doing you harm by removing salubrious minerals from your body. And if that's faster than they get replaced by nutritional supplementation then it's a big deal.

Grrrr ... system is doubleposting again ..

Asanon;580676 said:

Try this wntsgain, .. get a 250gram tub of PrimaForce's Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (should be around $20 for 125 servings) and take a heaping scoop (about 3 grams) of it in water twice per day for several days in a row .. and see if you're not in a constant semi-chub state with bigger flaccid hang and extremely fully erections. Might want to add some zinc picolinate while you're at it.

Good stuff. If I do that (for working out) my dick starts getting on my nerves cos it's always in the way.

Did you say what your length is? You said that you don't train girth but I didn't catch a length size.

I think you should go ahead and train girth at the same time. You might want to put that off until seeing what the AAKG ^ will do for your engorgement, because girth training can mess with erection quality ... but training length and girth at the same time can give you faster gains in both, and it's possible to have too small of a girth to length ratio where your penis can be subject to sudden catastrophic harm (getting bent in half and maybe 'broken') cos it wasn't thick enough, as a ratio, to be properly strong.

If the AAKG makes a -gigantic- difference, then you might want to examine why your normal nitric/epithelial response (when not taking it) is off by that much. If so PM me and I'll expound.

Last thought offhand, what kind of water are you drinking in those amounts? (I do more than a gallon personally, and also 'WaterCure', so good job on the amounts, u just need to watch the sources.) Tap water is going to be doing you harm from its toxin payloads, and distilled water (bless its heart) is going to be doing you harm by removing salubrious minerals from your body. And if that's faster than they get replaced by nutritional supplementation then it's a big deal.

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but do you really think that this could boost up your girth by more than 1,5"??
I can't stop wondering about these numbers. I mean, if this difference would have been caused by better/worse Eq alone (as a result of one or more of the several pot. causes that you two suggested here) then I'd expect to have a shitty soft/flaccid dick when measuring 4,75" and a titanium-hard erection (and I really mean that literally) with 6,5". And even then the difference would be big. The difference between my flaccid girth and my rock-hard erect girth for example is about an inch, a bit less actually.
This whole thing remains mysterious to me (not saying, that Op is talking shit, I'm just baffled thru and thru).

Satyr;580673 said:

fascinating read and disturbing,too. How the heck does one measure such enormous, such monstrous difference?! I mean 1,75 inches? That's breathtaking (to put it mildly).
Like your scientific stance, though in the light of these ridiculously significant statistical outliers that these two events are I have real trouble to view them as sufficient explanations.
I've always measured more or less the same and believe me: as a girth nerd with about 1,5 years experience I'm very familiar with PE induced Eq problems. But variations never surpassed the 0,1" mark.
Sure you haven't dreamed the same dream twice? Just joking.
but this simply transcends my imagination.
Please keep us posted.

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Thanks, and I have no idea how or why there's such a difference in these 2 girth sizes. Obviously, i'd like the bigger one at all times, which is what i'm trying to figure out. I try to give as much details as possible so readers can know fully on my situation, and possibly derive on answers.

Asanon;580676 said:

Try this wntsgain, .. get a 250gram tub of PrimaForce's Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (should be around $20 for 125 servings) and take a heaping scoop (about 3 grams) of it in water twice per day for several days in a row .. and see if you're not in a constant semi-chub state with bigger flaccid hang and extremely fully erections. Might want to add some zinc picolinate while you're at it.

Good stuff. If I do that (for working out) my dick starts getting on my nerves cos it's always in the way.

Did you say what your length is? You said that you don't train girth but I didn't catch a length size.

I think you should go ahead and train girth at the same time. You might want to put that off until seeing what the AAKG ^ will do for your engorgement, because girth training can mess with erection quality ... but training length and girth at the same time can give you faster gains in both, and it's possible to have too small of a girth to length ratio where your penis can be subject to sudden catastrophic harm (getting bent in half and maybe 'broken') cos it wasn't thick enough, as a ratio, to be properly strong.

If the AAKG makes a -gigantic- difference, then you might want to examine why your normal nitric/epithelial response (when not taking it) is off by that much. If so PM me and I'll expound.

Last thought offhand, what kind of water are you drinking in those amounts? (I do more than a gallon personally, and also 'WaterCure', so good job on the amounts, u just need to watch the sources.) Tap water is going to be doing you harm from its toxin payloads, and distilled water (bless its heart) is going to be doing you harm by removing salubrious minerals from your body. And if that's faster than they get replaced by nutritional supplementation then it's a big deal.

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I'm very familiar with arginine and it's other form (or derivative) AAKG. But before I entertain the idea of buying this, I do want to point out that I've been using Agmatine in powerform, 2g a day for working out. Simple principle of nitric oxide that is used for arginine when training. Personally, I like agmatine better. That being said, i'm not sure adding Arginine would be wise. However, when I first started using agmatine, I did notice a more, "plumped" state. I also take 50mg of zinc in capsule form.

When I measure my length a month ago, I was at 7.75in. BPEL. Have to check tomorrow again for any new gains.

I'd really like to stick to length gains as much as possible, then go for girth afterwards. Maybe, I might consider more jelging, upwards up to 15-20 minutes after my hanging session, and some strong bends in between jelqs. I understand, my EQ is dependent on my mood, how much energy I have, or how tired I am, etc. I try to examine every possible detail to try and replicate those results. The week that I got that monster girth, plus the 2 weeks prior, I did orgasm for a couple of days. Meaning, I came 2-3x/ week, and I think it was that 2nd week, I came 7x in 1 day. I don't know why, but those 3-4 weeks were the horniest I've ever been. Although, it could have also been for the fact that, I was getting close to 40 sets of hanging per week, or hitting 40 sets a week. I had to dial it down to 30 because I'm taking the MCAT at the end of the month, so I need more time to study and less time for hanging (sucks, I know ) That being said, I noticed during those weeks where I was doing more then 6 sets a day (totaling close to, or at 40 sets for the week, but 6-9sets per day, depending on the day), when I got to my last 2-3 sets, I was hanging between 2.5-7.5lbs (my first set began at 20lb), and it was at those sets where I noticed to get more, frequent and harder erections.
Since dialing back to 30 sets per week, my last set of the session hits anywhere from 7.5-10lbs (if i'm only doing 5-6 sets a day, 6 being the max) and during those last 2 sets, I've noticed my penis not being as "chubbed" as it used to when I was hitting 7-8 sets, between 2.5-7.5lbs. Not sure if this has anything to do with it?

As terms of water, I have a brita filter, and drinking my water from there. I fill up my gallon chug, drink and repeat! Do you think brita is good?

Satyr;580702 said:

but do you really think that this could boost up your girth by more than 1,5"??
I can't stop wondering about these numbers. I mean, if this difference would have been caused by better/worse Eq alone (as a result of one or more of the several pot. causes that you two suggested here) then I'd expect to have a shitty soft/flaccid dick when measuring 4,75" and a titanium-hard erection (and I really mean that literally) with 6,5". And even then the difference would be big. The difference between my flaccid girth and my rock-hard erect girth for example is about an inch, a bit less actually.
This whole thing remains mysterious to me (not saying, that Op is talking shit, I'm just baffled thru and thru).

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Unfortunately, I didn't keep track on my flaccid girth when I hit 6.5in mid girth, to what I am now, normally.

Believe me, I'm telling everyone the truth about my situation, and it makes me mad and depressed at the same time. I unknowningly got to a size thats incredible, but only twice! The passed couple of weeks have been nothing but trial and error in replicating those results. The only difference is (and I mentioned this in the post above), is that i'm performing less sets, and i'm not releasing frequently as I used to. Not sure if these are deciding factors.

Satyr, no, 0.2" is a very noticeable gain ... 1.5" is like an entire PE career. The tissues just don't have that much variance .. they have a 'plasticity' to change across time, but they don't have enormous random swings of 'elasticity', much less vacillating from small to big and then back again. As a snapshot of time, they're more like a Mylar balloon ... it can be empty, or full, or somewhere in between .. but you can'T 'overfill it' and make it have 80% more size/volume. As a snapshot in time, it's going to have a set max size. It seems more likely that there were two occasions where someone substituted a fake measuring tape as a prank, .. or on the two occasions the penis was on the verge of exploding with subcutaneous edema from pumping or cockringing (superficially impressive appearances which will measure higher .. but aren't a true indicator of the actual structure or its sizes re ligs, chambers. etc .. the hardware), .. or .. the poster is having a piss with us, overdone protestations like this "Believe me, I'm telling everyone the truth" are often tells of someone gaslighting you, the low posts count, and probably true info about taking the mcats, could also point to someone having fun with 'the dopes who think you can make your penis bigger' .. tell that to my nine inch dick .. but we're supposed to be polite here .. so .. attempting to give benefit of doubt by eliminating the stated confounding EQ issues etc first ...

on subject which ..

wntsgain, .. if you're already boosting intake of nitric factors, and getting about half of the zinc you'd need .. but still more than most people .. (and also not doing girth exercises presently, which can mess with EQ) then I'd suggest looking up 'phthalate detox' and do that. Add organic sulfur (egg yolks etc) and selenomethionine if not already, and also NAC if you wanna go full bore. You're way too young to have those issues unless your neuroendocrine system/liver is a hot mess and/or your glutathione function is reeeally weak. (Or maybe you smoke twenty packs of cigs per day?)

No, brita is over-the-counter garbage. It just makes your still-poison water taste better. Check out something like a Berkey Light and add the fluoride filters. [link] [also at Amazon and etc]. Over its lifetime it's making you great water for about 3 or 4 cents per gallon. After it's been ran-in a bit, it tastes like a mix between spring water and distilled, with no chloramines or fluorides or metals or (not kidding) estrogenic antidepressants that 20% of your neighbors peed out last week.. which if you're having EQ issues at your age you'd also definitely want to address.. by not drinking it. All of that shoots straight through britas the last I'd checked them out.

I kinda grayed out on the rest of it for the moment. If you want to see the difference in size, from your regular to the sudden giant leap that your describing, go to -the Visualizer- and put your normal size in as the first size, then when that is drawn, click up above it at Custom Size and make that size your whopper measurement and click Update -- did I say that right? On the comparison page, 'Adjust Size' changes the left cock and 'Custom Cock' changes the right cock. - It'll generate a ruled pic of the two sizes and, visually, what a (probably isn't correct somewhere) dichotomy that is.

Asanon;580725 said:

Satyr, no, 0.2" is a very noticeable gain ... 1.5" is like an entire PE career. The tissues just don't have that much variance .. they have a 'plasticity' to change across time, but they don't have enormous random swings of 'elasticity', much less vacillating from small to big and then back again. As a snapshot of time, they're more like a Mylar balloon ... it can be empty, or full, or somewhere in between .. but you can 'overfill it' and make it have 80% more size/volume. As a snapshot in time, it's going to have a set max size. It seems more likely that there were two occasions where someone substituted a fake measuring tape as a prank, .. or on the two occasions the penis was on the verge of exploding with subcutaneous edema from pumping or cockringing (superficially impressive appearances which will measure higher .. but aren't a true indicator of the actual structure or its sizes re ligs, chambers. etc .. the hardware), .. or .. the poster is having a piss with us, overdone protestations like this "Believe me, I'm telling everyone the truth" are often tells of someone gaslighting you, the low posts count, and probably true info about taking the mcats, could also point to someone having fun with 'the dopes who think you can make your penis bigger' .. tell that to my nine inch dick .. but we're supposed to be polite here .. so .. attempting to give benefit of doubt by eliminating the stated confounding EQ issues etc first ...

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I knew very well going into this post, that some (or most) would view it as skepticism. I can't blame anyone for that, since it does seem farfetched. I don't have anything to gain by lying, but do have everything to gain since I am telling the truth. Take it as you would. Though I want to point out, that when I got to that insane girth the 1st time years ago, it was w/o a cockring.

on subject which ..

wntsgain, .. if you're already boosting intake of nitric factors, and getting about half of the zinc you'd need .. but still more than most people .. (and also not doing girth exercises presently, which can mess with EQ) then I'd suggest looking up 'phthalate detox' and do that. Add organic sulfur (egg yolks etc) and selenomethionine if not already, and also NAC if you wanna go full bore. You're way too young to have those issues unless your neuroendocrine system/liver is a hot mess and/or your glutathione function is reeeally weak. (Or maybe you smoke twenty packs of cigs per day?)

No, brita is over-the-counter garbage. It just makes your still-poison water taste better. Check out something like a Berkey Light and add the fluoride filters. [link] [also at Amazon and etc]. Over its lifetime it's making you great water for about 3 or 4 cents per gallon. After it's been ran-in a bit, it tastes like a mix between spring water and distilled, with no chloramines or fluorides or metals or (not kidding) estrogenic antidepressants that 20% of your neighbors peed out last week.. which if you're having EQ issues at your age you'd also definitely want to address.. by not drinking it. All of that shoots straight through britas the last I'd checked them out.

I kinda grayed out on the rest of it for the moment. If you want to see the difference in size, from your regular to the sudden giant leap that your describing, go to -the Visualizer- and put your normal size in as the first size, then when that is drawn, click up above it at Custom Size and make that size your whopper measurement and click Update -- did I say that right? On the comparison page, 'Adjust Size' changes the left cock and 'Custom Cock' changes the right cock. - It'll generate a ruled pic of the two sizes and, visually, what a (probably isn't correct somewhere) dichotomy that is.[/QUOTE]

I will look into that detox thing. Also, you said "half of the zinc you'd need". How much should I consume? I will increase my jelq time and do more bends after my hanging sessions. Did you read above where I mentioned, that when I was hanging up to/at 40 sets a week, and hitting 2.5-7.5lbs for my last few sets, my flaccid was much "fuller", or plumped. Not quite sure, but maybe hanging at that low weight for my last few sets increased my EQ, temporarily? As opposed to now, where I am hanging 30 sets a week, but only hitting 7.5-10lbs for my last few sets, because of the decrease in the amount of sets. Once I take the exam, I will go back to 40 sets.

I will look into everything else.

Asanon;580725 said:

No, brita is over-the-counter garbage. It just makes your still-poison water taste better.

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lol

Asanon;580725 said:

No, brita is over-the-counter garbage. It just makes your still-poison water taste better.

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lol

You know, this isn't the first time such an unprecedentedly large one-off erection has been documented on this site. You have gone into a lot more detail but I distinctly remember reading another user recount of how turned on his wife got upon seeing an occurrence like this.

Shenlong;580950 said:

You know, this isn't the first time such an unprecedentedly large one-off erection has been documented on this site. You have gone into a lot more detail but I distinctly remember reading another user recount of how turned on his wife got upon seeing an occurrence like this.

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Well, I am trying very hard to get back to that large erection! I've always believed that every time I got hard, I was never 100%, because hanging always did fatigue me, no matter how long I waited to get an erection. I started to go back to hanging 40+sets/week, so hopefully more sets will get me back. I will observe everything, and when I reach that size again (hopefully soon, and hopefully with help from the ROP I ordered), I will record how I got to that size.

Off top, but is your userid a tribute to dragon ball?

Nope, Street Fighter. Dragon Ball would have been apt though.

Shenlong said:

Nope, Street Fighter. Dragon Ball would have been apt though.

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Where you at brother?