My Current Health and Performance Plan

Im2mackin said:

using that arimidex i seeeeeeee.........it def helps with the fat from estrogen buildup not only on ur chest though!

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I finished three weeks of 1mg Arimidex daily, and now am beginning to use clomid for the next three weeks coupled with a transdermal yohimbine.

The reason for stopping arimidex after three weeks is because eventually the aromatase enzyme will upregulate, rendering arimidex worthless unless you constantly increase the dose (to TOXIC levels). After three weeks, I figure that clomid or Nolvadex would be good choices because with aromatase upregulated, estrogen levels will be higher than normal when coming off the arimidex, so a receptor antagonist will keep those high levels of estrogen from actually exerting any effects. Plus, clomid/nolvadex increase LH and thus test levels. I threw yohimbine transdermal in the mix because while clomid blocks estrogen receptors rather well, it does a better job in the breast tissue, which leaves a strong possibility that fat could fill in the fat pad/hips and buttocks area, which is the exact area I am trying to improve. Yohimbine supposedly acts very well as an estrogen receptor blocker in those area particularly, and transdermal application supposedly has a longer active life.

Also, the three week+three week cycle was designed to keep the total cycle time to six weeks, which is about the time the HPTA takes to realize what is going on and really shut down the Test production from the goodies. 6 weeks on-six weeks off should be a good trial period.

Thats some interesting information there Goldmember.

From what i got your cycling just arimidex.....no roids(test or whatnot) whatsoever! Dont you think that taking an antiestrogen off the roids would have some sort of detrimental effect?

Anyways I think i will try this for 3 weeks and see how I like it.

BTW Goldmember, check ur PM's

I wouldn't think that arimidex would hurt gains...in fact I have noticed my strength increase along with definition, unless that is all placebo. I understand your logic, that cutting estrogen without any external testosterone will just make you weaker, but by lowering estrogen, your body signals for more LH to increase the amount of substrate (testosterone) for estrogen formation. Your body keeps putting out testosterone hoping to raise estrogen levels, but it fails to raise estrogen because the aromatase enzyme is blocked to some degree. What you are left with is a somewhat higher level of testosterone in the blood, and a somewhat lower level of estrogen. You can't carry this protocol out forever, because eventually the body realizes that the aromatase enzyme is blocked and simply upregulates aromatase. You can increase the dose of arimidex to conquer this problem, but eventually you will be consuming toxic levels (3mg or more) of arimidex, and then you'll need to come off it eventually. If you were taking a huge dosage of arimidex for a long time, I would imagine that aromatase concentration would be so high that when you stop taking the drug, estrogen levels would sky-rocket!

Could you give us some details on the energizer workout? i have "combat abs" book and maybe i'll give it a try. this guy claims that his program is better for fat burning than lifting weight+cardio. From your exrerience is this statement near the truth? i'm a bit sceptical since mr furrey himself seem to have a 20% body fat and a little belly! after doing so many hindu squats and abs training and if his claims were accurate that shouldn's be the case!

blablablaben said:

Could you give us some details on the energizer workout? i have "combat abs" book and maybe i'll give it a try. this guy claims that his program is better for fat burning than lifting weight+cardio. From your exrerience is this statement near the truth? i'm a bit sceptical since mr furrey himself seem to have a 20% body fat and a little belly! after doing so many hindu squats and abs training and if his claims were accurate that shouldn's be the case!

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Well, let's not forget that Furey is in his mid-forties and has not been in competition for quite some time. In his hayday, I'm sure he was ripped to shreds. Also, he has trained many others to lose weight.

I think that any plan that causes weight loss needs to be intense and involve hard work. You can do that with the weight/cardio approach or you can take Furey's approach and arrive at the same destination. I think it is harder to slack with Furey's exercises than it is to slack in the weight room. Sets last about thirty seconds on average in a weight room, which leaves lots of time to potentially be distracted by a buddy, stranger, or some lady youre after. Furey's exercises involve less sets, more repetitions, and longer durations per set. I have personally found success with both approaches.

Furey sells his products on health, longevity, and fuctional strength. He argues that his method is superior on these regards mainly, and maybe exaggerates how it is way beyond weights/cardio.

If you are looking for a pick-me-up to follow in the morning, I highly encourage you check out the super energizer workout. If not, leave it alone and save your money. The qi gong lesson I learned from that program has been priceless to me.

I am going to begin a routine for getting ultra ripped...starting in the next week or so. I will be doing a lot of combat conditioning, combat abs, primate power, handstand training, european strand pulling, wrestling, qi gong, and the like.

I will be utilizing a supplement protocol as such:
dessicated liver (general health)
Spike (neurotransmitter booster/energizer)
lipoderm-Y (yohimbine transdermal)
Arimidex (aromatase inhibitor - estrogen suppression)
dietex RTD (appetite suppressant)
cytomel (synthetic thyroid hormone)

Some of them will come into play later on, some will begin right away.

I will be eating a very high protein, low carb, and low fat diet. The Spike and Dietex RTD's will be invaluable...

My goals are (as stated before) get very defined while gaining/retaining most of my strength and muscle mass. My main goal is to lose my lower body female-pattern fat areas (thighs/buttocks) thus the lipoderm-Y and arimidex.

I want to be very strict with the diet, and I know this will work. I hope to exercise for at least one hour every day. I will keep my progress updated periodically. My next post will be when I begin the routine.

I began dieting this week. Results are already apparent. I will add a few calories, because I don't need to reach my goal so soon.

Supps:
5g ester c in morning
dessicated liver throughout day
whey protein
garlic and superoxide dismutase (liver&heart health)
will add more as time passes

Exercise regiment:
morning - super energizer workout
Afternoon - strandpulling, combat stretching, combat conditioning, combat abs, primate power, or handstand training

tried the power wheel for abs...absolutely amazing! try one if you haven't already. I think I will make this a regular part of my ab routine.

Diet:
egg whites (12) in morning
oatmeal (3/4 cup)

met-rx big 100 bar

ham sandwich

whey protein shake (met-rx meal replacement)

chicken breast
vegetables

1 gallon of water throughout the day.

more updates to come.

My routine has been doing wonders so far, and as I mentioned before, I have to take steps to slow down my progress, because it's too early in the game!

Yesterday, here was my diet:

12 egg whites
2 cups of oatmeal
4 dessicated liver tablets
2 deodorized garlic capsules
5000mg Ester-C (tablets)
1 Spike! tablet
1 Superoxide dismutase tablet
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met-rx Big 100 bar
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met-rx meal replacement packet
in 10oz. of skim milk w/ one tray
of ice cubes (blended and pureed)
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8oz. Charcoal-grilled chicken breast (boneless, skinless)
two hamburger buns
4 dessicated liver tablets
2 deodorized garlic capsules
1 Superoxide dimutase tablet
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met-rx big 100 bar (got hungry)
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That's it...I'm pretty sure I drank about 1-1.5 gallons of purified water throughout the day. 220 grams of protein, 265 grams of carbs, and 31 grams of fat; 2200 calories. Later on, I will reduce my carbs a bit further, replace some of them with fats coming from extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil, and increase the protein slightly as well. I have other supplements in my arsenal as well, but they won't come into play until later on.

As far as workouts, I started my morning with the super energizer workout, then did some magnificent seven and handstand training in the evening. Probably 30 minutes total.

I am weighing in on wednesday, so we shall see what happens then...

I weighed in today 8 pounds lighter than I was 12 days ago. My waist decreased by an entire inch, buttocks one inch, and thighs by one half inch. The fat caliper shows that my bodyfat decreased by 1% as well. I am very pleased with these results so far! I have added l-glutamine to my supplement regiment as of today.

goldmember said:

I weighed in today 8 pounds lighter than I was 12 days ago. My waist decreased by an entire inch, buttocks one inch, and thighs by one half inch. The fat caliper shows that my bodyfat decreased by 1% as well. I am very pleased with these results so far! I have added l-glutamine to my supplement regiment as of today.

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If that 1% reduction in fat is correct, and I weighed 167 lbs., and I was 13% bodyfat...then I lost 1/13 of my total fat, which was only 1.67 lbs of fat...

Hopefully, at least five of the pounds I lost were from water weight (muscle glycogen carries about five-six pounds of water in the average male), so that means I lost around one pound of muscle...possibly. That is why I am adding l-glutamine to help prevent any muscle loss.

Whats your bodyfat goal GM,its pretty hard to keep hold of muscle natty once your bodyfat starts to get under the 10% mark.

prince Albert said:

Whats your bodyfat goal GM,its pretty hard to keep hold of muscle natty once your bodyfat starts to get under the 10% mark.

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10% wouldn't be bad, but 9%...or even as low as 7% would be phenomenal. I agree with you completely that the lower your bodyfat level, the tougher it is to hold onto muscle. I will be adding in more supplements to combat that, but muscle loss is inevitable on a natural fat loss regiment.

I am a supplement machine!!!

I have been a few weeks into my diet, and undoubtedly, my thyroid output has had to have dropped. Since I will be lowering carbs in the upcoming weeks, I stocked up on some supplements that are meant to keep thyroid activity elevated even while dieting for longer than 2 weeks.

So I purchased:
*L-tyrosine capsules (500 mg daily)
*Kelp capsules (400 mcg iodine daily)
*Zinc capsules (45 mg daily as monomethionate)
*Selenium capsules (200 mcg daily as methylselenocysteine, with broccoli, B2 and E added)

I am adding this to my already large list of supplements, including met-rx big 100 bars and meal replacement, dessicated liver, ester-c, superoxide dismutase, deodorized garlic, l-glutamine, and spike.

My fat-loss has been going great, and I have yet to add the GRAND DADDIES (ie arimidex, cytomel, and yohimbine transdermal).

My workouts have been stellar since throwing in an hour of wrestling twice per week, and doing rope skipping as a form of circuit training between my dynamic conditioning exercises. I have been doing a half hour of light workout per day, and a half hour of intense workout per day on average.

This consists of qi gong in the morning (20 min), occasionally some dynamic stretching afterward (20 min); a wrestling session in the evening (60 min) or a circuit training workout (20 min).

GM,this thread may be of interest.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_158640/tm.htm

prince Albert said:

GM,this thread may be of interest.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_158640/tm.htm

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Very good info., thank you! I was planning a taper, and had a similar concept in mind. 25 mcg is typically the minimal effective dose, and 150 mcg is typically the maximal effective dose. I was planning a 6-8 week taper with these amounts.

I guess something popped up that never occurred to me...what stage of the taper should I peak at? IE, when would I look the best? At week 5, or week 8?

Also, is my supplement regiment and protein intake suffient to combat the catabolism? I'm hoping the catabolism would be mostly fat, but I don't want to be left with a skin-n-bones metabolism afterward. Would T2 possibly be a better alternative to cytomel?

GM,i no very little about thyroid meds to be honest as ive never wanted to drop my bodyfat low enough to use them so ive never really read up on them.

Ive asked in that thread about protien consumption,this was the reply.
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_158640/mpage_11/tm.htm#1356816

I carn't comment on the supps your taking either as apart from the l-glutamine and MRPS,ive never used any of the others.

Sorry i carn't be of more help mate.

[in a private message between Prince Albert and I]

ME: I decided against ECA because of its difficulty to buy in the US, and I found a better solution.

I am stacking Lipo-6 with Thyrocuts-II. This stack should be very effective, considering the synephrine-caffeine-yohimbine stack is similar to ECA with less jitters (slightly less effective) and thyro-cuts is T2, while less active than T3, seems to be less catabolic to muscle tissue.

I agree with you on ephedrine hindering Penis Enlargement gains. Synephrine definitely has the potential as well, so I will keep the dosage to a minimum.

I try to go three days lowering my carbs, and then add a bit more on the fourth day. This seems to be an effective carb cycle for me. Protein is always high. On the days I lower my carbs, I tend to add a little fat calories, while on the days I raise my carbs, I try to lower my fat intake.

I found it difficult to find a source for triacana, and I found a product called dicana (diiodothyroacetic acid) but questioned its efficacy.

Again, thanks for the help.

-GoldMember
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Originally Posted by prince Albert
When i used it i got good results of the eca stack but i think eph may hinder gains pe wise,i'm sure eph is one of the reasons i saw such poor gains from hanging in the beginning.

Clen i don't like,the shakes can be embarassing to explain and for me the headaches were too severe to allow me to train properly.

Are you cycling your carbs as this is a good way to keep fat loss going.

GM yo man i respect your hard work , here is my question? i like to drink i "turbo ice coffee " from double d's before i workout , it gives me energy what are your thought's on this??

lets face it, when you wake up , I feel like ass , at least i do , i need that ice coffee man i drink alot of water thru out the day , so again how do you get the energy in the morning for working out?> do you think coffee in general is bad? thanks boss

worfking said:

GM yo man i respect your hard work , here is my question? i like to drink i "turbo ice coffee " from double d's before i workout , it gives me energy what are your thought's on this??

lets face it, when you wake up , I feel like ass , at least i do , i need that ice coffee man i drink alot of water thru out the day , so again how do you get the energy in the morning for working out?> do you think coffee in general is bad? thanks boss

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Thanks for the kind words.

Coffee is good, but for me caffeine alone doesn't cut it. Personally, I don't care for the elevated heart rate either. What I like to use is a product called Spike, by Biotest. It raises concentration and overall mental focus. I use it for everything from studying, to working out, to waking up. It really is that versatile. The bonus to coffee is that you get a good dose of antioxidants, but I'm sure that is outweighed by all the processed sugar and hydrogenated fat dumped into those tasty concoctions they whip up at dd's. Here is a link to Spike (Biotest).

Heres a nice little article that may be of interest about caffine.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-caffeine-bodybuilding.asp