Madonna-Whore Complex

AlreadyPackin' said:

What is really sad is the clueless girl who marries some guy she has known for about 2 months, then moves somewhere with him, away from any of her family, friends, then is surprised when he "suddenly" changes into a jerk and starts mistreating her. Of course, since she moved, none of her support is around, so many just stay in the shitty situation.
A couple of the most faithful "prudes" I have been around turned out to be the herniest, bed-hoppingest freaks around. The old book by its cover cliche' comes to mind.

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Deff. Its the quiet ones you should keep an eye on

DWTS00 said:

Possibly but some just sleep around and do commit without cheating you never know...sometimes the ones you never expect to cheat...DO!

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Probabilities, not absolutes. You never know when the Saints could beat the Colts, but we all know what is most likely.

AlreadyPackin' said:

What is really sad is the clueless girl who marries some guy she has known for about 2 months, then moves somewhere with him, away from any of her family, friends, then is surprised when he "suddenly" changes into a jerk and starts mistreating her. Of course, since she moved, none of her support is around, so many just stay in the shitty situation.

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Yeah, that is obviously a shitty situation, but I don't think that happens much. Most of the time, one can tell a woman has real bitch potential or a man has real asshole potential pretty early on. Usually, it's just that people are in self denial.

That best friend of mine that had the virgin turn freak in the sack is getting bled dry. He brings home all the cash while she wastes her time on activism causes that he is politically opposed to. He is to some degree too dumb to see what all has happened and rationalizes it, and he doesn't have the heart to end the relationship. At the same time, the chick that sits right by me at work is cool as hell, but continues a relationship with a guy that beats her---and her last boyfriend beat her too. It's just got to the point where everytime she talks about breaking up with him we all laugh and make fun of her. What else am I supposed to do? She clearly can't think worth a fuck, so the only hope is to embarrass her into realizes how foolish she is. Both of these cases I could see coming a mile away. That's how it is 99.5% of the time.

sikdogg said:

I think that jealous people (men and women) or people who expect the worse just create stress and uncertainty in relationships and will eventually be the reason for the breakup. Be confident in yourself and your choices in women and live your life to the best of your abilities. If she cheats on you... she would have no matter what you did. I say quit thinking about the what-if's and think about the positives. Hakuna Matata...

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exactly - my way of thinking of it is: you cant stop someone cheating. you just cant, the more you try the more they will want to succeed. focus on being "that great love" the guy that doesnt get jealous, the guy thats not controlling and the guy that doesnt try to change her. if you are this good to her and she still cheats - basically its her loss! i lost a girl friend to cheating, it hurt alot! but i look back and laugh now. i have made myself more successfull in the past years, whereas she has just had a kid and on income support. to think that if she hadnt cheated on me - i would never have found pe (so would still have a 5x5 dick). i wouldnt have the confidence or sexual experience i have now. so im actaually gratefull thanks you slag!! :D

EVO said:

i lost a girl friend to cheating, it hurt alot! but i look back and laugh now. i have made myself more successfull in the past years, whereas she has just had a kid and on income support.

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Dude, be sure to rub it in her face if the opportunity presents itself.

penguinsfan said:

Dude, I kinda know what you mean. ...

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I would venture to say that when guys age this feeling tends to fade away.

against_odds21 said:

I would venture to say that when guys age this feeling tends to fade away.

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What do you mean? When I grow good and old, I won't worry about past behavior as a predictor?

Alot of you bring up some really good points. I guess I am just young and insecure.

and as for sexual variety with women, there has to be other ways than using sex toys. To me these things represent insecurity in your own abilities.

whoa DWTSOO, you have a more negative worldview than me and I'm pretty bad off. I agree that humans are pretty fucked up, but you know why this is? Because WE"RE TOO DAMNED INTELLIGENT! Any race that spends time trying to find more efficient ways of pulverizing each other is DOOMED. Lol.

However, if you despise having kids that much you must hate yourself and your genetics. Children are nothing more than an extension of YOU. It must suck to be that self negating.


JC Rod

jonny rod said:

Alot of you bring up some really good points. I guess I am just young and insecure.

and as for sexual variety with women, there has to be other ways than using sex toys. To me these things represent insecurity in your own abilities.

whoa DWTSOO, you have a more negative worldview than me and I'm pretty bad off. I agree that humans are pretty fucked up, but you know why this is? Because WE"RE TOO DAMNED INTELLIGENT! Any race that spends time trying to find more efficient ways of pulverizing each other is DOOMED. Lol.

However, if you despise having kids that much you must hate yourself and your genetics. Children are nothing more than an extension of YOU. It must suck to be that self negating.



JC Rod

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Nah, I just hate kids I mean whats the point of kids...they dont make u money , they dont have sex with you(well atleast not with me Im not into that lol) , theyre annoying, too loud and always wanna listen to some wierd shit when theyre in the car no mother fuckers its Metal all the way lol.

yeah I dont hate kids as long as Im not taking care of them....

jonny rod said:

and as for sexual variety with women, there has to be other ways than using sex toys. To me these things represent insecurity in your own abilities.

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That much I can relate to. They're so common and accepted (compared to males) with females that most anyone can find something that really works for her. I would hate to think that I am nothing more than second place, sexually, to some chick when compared to the plastic and that having sex is little more than her keeping me content.

penguinsfan said:

That much I can relate to. They're so common and accepted (compared to males) with females that most anyone can find something that really works for her. I would hate to think that I am nothing more than second place, sexually, to some chick when compared to the plastic and that having sex is little more than her keeping me content.

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Yeah man, fuck that! I could just kill the fucking guy who invented the dildo, I really could! Are we to become a race of vaginal plumbers who are allowed to get off occasionally if we be good little boys? Fuck that!>

And how the hell are you supposed to know how many previous partners a woman's had? Do you actually think they'd tell you the truth on this???

jonny rod said:

And how the hell are you supposed to know how many previous partners a woman's had? Do you actually think they'd tell you the truth on this???

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Good question. Rule of Three from American Pie, maybe? ?

jonny rod said:

And how the hell are you supposed to know how many previous partners a woman's had? Do you actually think they'd tell you the truth on this???

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Hmm.... what does this really matter? If she's been with only one person and the one person she was with had been with 100 people... isn't it kind of like she was with those 100 people as well??? Especially if she and her one partner didn't use protection. Focus on the present and the future. I know sometimes forgetting the past is hard but we have to make the effort to look away from it.

funkydiscochik said:

Hmm.... what does this really matter? If she's been with only one person and the one person she was with had been with 100 people... isn't it kind of like she was with those 100 people as well??? Especially if she and her one partner didn't use protection. Focus on the present and the future. I know sometimes forgetting the past is hard but we have to make the effort to look away from it.

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It's not a matter of STDs or health. Some people sleep with one person and get an STD, while some sleep with hundreds and never do. That can be checked and confirmed by a physician rather easily.

It is about the likelihood of a person cheating or giving up on the relationship in difficult times. As I mentioned earlier, a large number of sex partners means a person either thinks very little about engaging in casual one-nighters or has been through an exceptional amount of relationships. Either way, it is some concern for the well-being of your relationship. And while this might sound sexist, it is a much bigger red flag when a female is concerned. That is because men are biologically wired for casual sex, while women are more wired towards the love and relationship aspects. I mean, there is a reason where there are numerous books written for men about how to attract and seduce women, while there is basically not a real market for teaching women how to pick up men. So, if you think about the expression "been around the block" there may be a little cause for concern. And if a woman has been around the neighbor and a few adjoining municipalities that is a major red flag.

penguinsfan said:

It's not a matter of STDs or health. Some people sleep with one person and get an STD, while some sleep with hundreds and never do. That can be checked and confirmed by a physician rather easily.

It is about the likelihood of a person cheating or giving up on the relationship in difficult times. As I mentioned earlier, a large number of sex partners means a person either thinks very little about engaging in casual one-nighters or has been through an exceptional amount of relationships. Either way, it is some concern for the well-being of your relationship. And while this might sound sexist, it is a much bigger red flag when a female is concerned. That is because men are biologically wired for casual sex, while women are more wired towards the love and relationship aspects. I mean, there is a reason where there are numerous books written for men about how to attract and seduce women, while there is basically not a real market for teaching women how to pick up men. So, if you think about the expression "been around the block" there may be a little cause for concern. And if a woman has been around the neighbor and a few adjoining municipalities that is a major red flag.

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Well said Penguin.

I thought I'd add a little experience of mine to put a twist on this already interesting thread.

When hubby and I met in HS, he was a jock. He was a popular senior I was a somewhat quiet and "goodie goodie" sopHydromaxore. He scoped me out, and choose me over all the little hot cheerleaders that drooled after him (granted, he had slept with just about all of them....they had no brains, and he can't stand that). So to make a long story short.....we started dating. Here's the twist. When we got into the inevitable "how many people have you slept with" conversation.....I LIED. BUT it wasn't the way you think....I said I HAD slept with like 4 guys, when really I had only slept with one (the guy I lost my "V" to).

SO, you see....women have a fucked up perception of what men want too. I thought he would think I was a cheesy, prude if I said "only one". When really, that is what attracted him.....the fact that I was indeed a good girl that had brains and class. When we first started having sex, I was a nympho. Couldn't get enough of that thing....then it slacked off.....now it's back full force. I've only been with 2 men in my life - my husband and my first. I have NO desire to hop around seeing if there is anything bigger or better - even though I am "highly sexed". I'm up for anything, role playing, anal, threesome, WHATEVER. That's not because I've been around the block - just because I happen to love fucking my man and getting off.

Now, in all honesty when I was about 18 I did go through a period where a guy at work romanced me and I ALMOST slept with him. Until it finally dawned on me (thank GAWD!) that he was nothing more than a physical attraction, and what we (hubby and I) had together was SO MUCH BETTER. Sooner or later the physical sizzle fades, and your left with all of the emotional passion - that is what sticks......not the size of your dick, or how many men you can be with.

I'm sure there are plenty of men out there (probably some on this board) that could MORE than satisfy me in bed....however.....they couldn't finish my sentences, or know that I get sili when I'm tired.....or change my baby's diapers at 4am......or fix me eggs when I'm hungover......when you click, and become one with each other.....no amount of "wishing, wanting, or searching for bigger and better" will deter your love for each other. Period.

Just another perspective for ya..............

Thewife, It is good to see that a woman who really loves her husband doesn't concern herself with the "bigger, better, deal". I haven't run into a girl, or woman who would up and leave her significant other for a big dick, but I'm still a young man. A woman can really and truly love a man for who he is and want to be with him and only him regardless of his short comings. We're all just human and if a relationship is going to survive the pitfalls of life it has to be stable, and stability only comes from being honest, repectful, and loving at all times. Thanks for the post, and if there's anything you'd like to add I think it would be very helpful to a large percentage of the men here to get that "diffferent perspective".

thewife said:

Just another perspective for ya..............

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That's great. Sounds like everything a great relationship should be.

Do you have any hot single friends that are into broke guys that need about six months of faithful dieting? :D

Actually I do. They are both single mothers Still need a date HA!!

penguinsfan said:

That's great. Sounds like everything a great relationship should be.

Do you have any hot single friends that are into broke guys that need about six months of faithful dieting? :D

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