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cladre60;736025 said:
or taking us to...
Endless Potential, Major mental Block, Need Help
or taking us to...
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cladre60;736146 said:
you're not rudderless
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cladre60;736025 said:
For sure brotha. Yeah right now I am geeking about some things I could potentially work on and probably make some money and also keep making progress on getting fit.
Being occupied and just doing things really takes this idea and compresses into another area of my mind. It isnt necessarily gone and having the wrong stimuli in front of me could necessarily bring those thoughts up.
While I do want to have a bigger penis, I think with time and some self investment, I will be relinquished of "I have to be (this size) in order for a girl to really get off."
I was using the bathmate and had a temp girth of 5.7 inches. Couldnt get a magnum condom on and I still thought it wasnt all that big. I was reading about a guy on �other forum� who had starting stats below mine and he is now 9.5x6.3 and he still thinks he is small. Basically a little above my goal and he is still thinkin like that. Man.
Even with the supposed "issue" I have readin that I was shaking my head. And a lot of other people no matter how much progress they make still have this mindset. Makes me think how ridiculous how we worry about things. Im being hypocritical no doubt but I am aware of how ridiculous it can be.
I do want to get to a better place though before I start messing around with women and for the time being I am ok with that. Getting lean, make some money and then save up enough to move out........... and make some girth gain. Lol. I still think I can "improve" myself in that regard before I insert into a female.
But yeah. Other than that I can live with being in a self improvement stage while I stay focused on education and other things. I say that for now and I am pretty sure things will change.
The whole size complex thing affects a lot of men I believe but you will never hear a conversation like that in person. In this modern era, for the people who are affected, think that if we are not [X] we will not be good in sex and will have psychological issues that will stem from that. Focus and concentration may hinder due to your questioning of your own's self worth of being a man. Motivation and lack of interest of doing things, pretty much sounds like depression.
It does help though having just venting even if it wasnt in person with people. Still feel as if I could of reached some sort of catharsis and could deal with these issues slowly over a course of time.
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MOS is the only environment I feel safe to discuss (in such detail and honesty) the subject of size. GLN, I wholeheartedly agree that the vast majority of men are at least concerned and a high percentage of those men could be deemed 'obsessive'. When a good portion of my 'mind-space' is occupied by my 'johnson' and how I can grow/improve it, then I can only imagine many others feeling the same...fortunately Mike has created an oasis of information and a calm environment in which to share.
I consider ourselves lucky since the overwhelming majority are 'lost at sea'
I consider ourselves lucky since the overwhelming majority are 'lost at sea'
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Big Schwanz Acht;736327 said:
Some thoughts that procur in my mind is that many men are aware of the subject of size nowadays. Through media, conversations amongst other guys when masculinity gets involved and especially when females get a hold of the subject.
That's kind of how I got into looking into PE. A conversation with females. At 17 I was unaware of the importance of size but having that conversation introduced a whole new avenue in my life that I wanted to take action in. Then I became obsessed but started when I was 19 and really never got into a routine and probably never really made gains. Finally at it now.
I think many men actually know about penis enlargement but talking about that subject in person with another dude is a rabbit hole men do not want go down in.
This is certainly a conundrum because I think deep down men do not want to be rejected just as women. Women can certainly improve their looks and health as can men, but then the whole size thing becomes kind of a stopping point if that is even an issue for that particular man. But for those who are aware of the methods then they can apply and get to where they want to be.
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I agree, also...the penis holds much mystique for women especially given the fact that almost all their (mis)information is largely anecdotal (and we know how accurate they aren't, lol) so each experience they have either supports or refutes the reports they've heard from friends/relatives/etc. I also believe men perpetuate these myths in order to 'seem' larger than they are...hence the endless cycle of deceit.
Here at MOS, we have the opportunity to 'rise-above' and no longer participate in the lies cuz we have the size to back-up the claim
Here at MOS, we have the opportunity to 'rise-above' and no longer participate in the lies cuz we have the size to back-up the claim
You've always wanted to be a pro baseball player. Physically you aren't built for it fully but that's something you can work on, getting a little more muscular where needed and getting faster. You spend years preparing your body getting to the perfect build. You're also getting older. Guys younger than you are being scouted and brought up through the farm teams and no one has even looked at you. Now you're getting to the point age wise you'll be super lucky to even get an offer. No one knows you. Why? How did this happen?
Because in all that time you were worried you weren't physically right to play the game you weren't playing! Now you've missed countless opportunities that you'll never get back. To top it all off while you look like a baseball player you don't know how to play because you never did.
You can improve while playing the game. You need to shake the mindset of "sex is going to suck unless I'm huge" because it's going to suck if you don't inure what to do.
Because in all that time you were worried you weren't physically right to play the game you weren't playing! Now you've missed countless opportunities that you'll never get back. To top it all off while you look like a baseball player you don't know how to play because you never did.
You can improve while playing the game. You need to shake the mindset of "sex is going to suck unless I'm huge" because it's going to suck if you don't inure what to do.
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cladre60;736440 said:
great analogy
Big Schwanz Acht;736557 said:
Back when Terrill Owens was still playing for the Eagles and running his mouth about being such a great football player I said "dunno what he's talking about, the man has dropped more balls than puberty." It was the perfect analogy for his playing style.
I'm good at analogies. Bad at everything else it seems but I'm good with them.
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cladre60;736440 said:
Yeah brotha I agree. Awesome analogy.
I understand being the age of 23 now and not having dipped in some pussy at this point may have some sense of detriment attatched to it but not entirely.
With some self analysis and really figuring what I am about I am really doing this for myself and not for women. I envision an optimal individual that I can realistically become by becoming more fit as well as reaching my PE goals. There are several more traits but those are some of them.
I believe that once I make some serious progress with these goals, I will become more confident with myself and I can transcend onto having relationships and/or just go full on Gengis Khan and fuck just about every female I come across.
Hearing a lot of females talk and partaking in many discussions, I kind of see a reoccuring theme. A lot of women are very insecure and maybe moreso than me and they have an extreme amount of expectations for guys they want to get with. And then I'll see they become highly irritated at little things which to me is extremely annoying. There are many things and I can keep going on but I kind of made my point. These are what I consider the beta females. And I really do not care for them. Not really mysogynistic but if I do not like the majority of the female population then I guess that is arguable.
I have several really cool female friends whom just absolutely refrain from having any of those non appealing characteristics and females like that are the ones I want to get with. Too bad they are a rarity. Society does place unrealistic expectations amongst both sexes and I am a victim of it.
Still though, I'd rather reach my goals before I get with girls like this. To me it shouldnt be all that bad because within a couple more years of self investment I see myself being close or pretty much achieving these goals and the self doubt should really be non existant at that point.
I enjoy having complex discussions and critical thinking but associating with the majority, they really don't care about that.
Following the algorithm of falling for a female purely out of lust and not having that deep connection that looks past the physicallity of the individual is really bothersome. I was in that situation with one chick I was kind of dating.
I would like to elaborate but I think I have typed/talked enough. Ramble ramble ramble....
Summary : Make self better, then fuck a bunch of females. Then possibly get that "special someone".
Be aware that the "special someone" may come into your life tomorrow. She might be the right someone for 6 months or 60 years. Sometimes certain people come into our lives to teach us certain things and then you go your separate ways.
I failed to take an amazing friendship to the next level, where it should have gone, because of my own insecurities. One of them was penis size and my sheer ignorance over what was actually considered average (which is exactly what I was). The relationship probably would've ended anyway due to circumstances beyond our control but over 20 years later I still regret it. Had I of gotten over myself we could've learned so much more about life and love (and sex too, but life and love are good things to learn about too).
Remain open to that possibility. You may be pleasantly surprised or worse - look back years later with tons of regret.
I failed to take an amazing friendship to the next level, where it should have gone, because of my own insecurities. One of them was penis size and my sheer ignorance over what was actually considered average (which is exactly what I was). The relationship probably would've ended anyway due to circumstances beyond our control but over 20 years later I still regret it. Had I of gotten over myself we could've learned so much more about life and love (and sex too, but life and love are good things to learn about too).
Remain open to that possibility. You may be pleasantly surprised or worse - look back years later with tons of regret.
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cladre60;736726 said:
Yo Clad I want to say I really appreciate the fact that you are trying to talk some sense into me brotha.
At one end of the spectrum I feel that I need to go on the path that I stated above and on the other end I really should just bash these ideologies, while still continuing with bettering myself of course, and see the pleasures and seize opportunities at the right moment. It's just that the first mentioned path seems to have a stronger pull on me at the moment.
No doubt, if I were in your position talking to me I would be going off and telling myself that I am gonna have huge regrets and this state of depression that I may be in may amplify 10x later on in life. And that "special someone" may have actually come in your life already but due to your dumbass insecurities you have missed that opportunity.
It does worry me having that possibly being the reality but I do not like to think like that due to a couple of reasons.
I HAVE CHANGED. A lot. I am not the same person I am right now than I was last year. A lot of events have happened up to this moment where I think really differently about the world and the vast majority of females are not going to really enjoy the person I have become now because my views are too extreme for the general public. So my "special someone" before last year is not going to be the "special someone" for me now.
Once I am truly confident with myself, I will be dipping into a lot of pussy. I still love the female form more than anything else but the ideologies that exists in the minds of many females just doesn't appeal to me. They are just gonna be practice. UNLESS, that special someone comes into my life at that stage where I am comfortable with myself.
The question I have, what's another two years? I will be 25, with my B.S., I came into college into a later time but that is another story, and I will be physically and mentally better. I really want to be that person before I begin touching skins with a female. It is idiotic, narcissistic, close-minded and selfish. But I cannot shake off that bug in my head at the moment and I just see the only way to deal with it is to continue doing what I am doing.
Again, in your position, I would pity myself but this what exists in my mind, and tbh, I think this "damage" that exists in my mind is relative to many brothers out there. We just don't hear it too often.
So what's another 2 years? Is not that much, just 730 opportunities to be cumming inside of hot, tight, wet vagina or a drooling mouth with a flicking tongue. That's all it is, no big deal lol.
I'm not a sex addict but I am obsessed with sex. I started experimenting with masturbation at the age of 11 and by 12 it was pretty much daily. As I've gotten older and been in relationships having pussy has become my security blanket. Just knowing that I have someone willing to have sex, even if we aren't having sex daily, it's comforting. I'm sure all of that is tied into some deeper issues that I probably need to address.
Anyway, if that's a no BS 7.8" BPEL that you're starting with your larger than I am after doing 6 months of PE. I started a full 2" smaller and spent many years believing I was small when in reality I was average. I compensated for what I thought was a lack of size by fucking their brains out. After many years I realized that only 2 women ever got their lips all the way to the base of my penis and only 1 of them was slamming her face in for more. She was literally trying to inhale my cock while I was cumming, zero gag reflex. After she got done she was saying things like how she couldn't wait for me to get hard again to feel me inside her, how she knew my cock was going to tear up her tight pussy.... the chick could inhale a horse yet she was legit stroking my ego.
Anyway, regret sucks, but it's better to regret something you did than something you didn't. I'm glad to hear that your views are changing and you've progressed but I'd love to hear that you broke down the mental wall, had sex, and found out what you've been missing out on. I think a lot of your fear is partially about size and a lot more about the unknown. The same women you hear say things like "omg he was huge! He had an 8" cock and I loved it!" would say a REAL 8" chick was over 10".
And keep this in mind....a girl told me as long as I had at least 3" and knew what to do with it she was happy. Wait, did you say 3 INCHES?! That's, well, ummm, small.
Her reply was simple. "My middle finger is 3" long and when I pull my legs up right I can get it and my index finger in all the way to the knuckles. I can fuck myself sili like that and I'm satisfied. If you've only got 4" and know what to do I'll make sure you cum as hard as possible when we're done."
I'm not a sex addict but I am obsessed with sex. I started experimenting with masturbation at the age of 11 and by 12 it was pretty much daily. As I've gotten older and been in relationships having pussy has become my security blanket. Just knowing that I have someone willing to have sex, even if we aren't having sex daily, it's comforting. I'm sure all of that is tied into some deeper issues that I probably need to address.
Anyway, if that's a no BS 7.8" BPEL that you're starting with your larger than I am after doing 6 months of PE. I started a full 2" smaller and spent many years believing I was small when in reality I was average. I compensated for what I thought was a lack of size by fucking their brains out. After many years I realized that only 2 women ever got their lips all the way to the base of my penis and only 1 of them was slamming her face in for more. She was literally trying to inhale my cock while I was cumming, zero gag reflex. After she got done she was saying things like how she couldn't wait for me to get hard again to feel me inside her, how she knew my cock was going to tear up her tight pussy.... the chick could inhale a horse yet she was legit stroking my ego.
Anyway, regret sucks, but it's better to regret something you did than something you didn't. I'm glad to hear that your views are changing and you've progressed but I'd love to hear that you broke down the mental wall, had sex, and found out what you've been missing out on. I think a lot of your fear is partially about size and a lot more about the unknown. The same women you hear say things like "omg he was huge! He had an 8" cock and I loved it!" would say a REAL 8" chick was over 10".
And keep this in mind....a girl told me as long as I had at least 3" and knew what to do with it she was happy. Wait, did you say 3 INCHES?! That's, well, ummm, small.
Her reply was simple. "My middle finger is 3" long and when I pull my legs up right I can get it and my index finger in all the way to the knuckles. I can fuck myself sili like that and I'm satisfied. If you've only got 4" and know what to do I'll make sure you cum as hard as possible when we're done."
