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I've been away from PE for some time.
I"m looking for a quality hanger - something that's comfortable. Previously I've used the Captains Wrench and gotten up to 12.5 pounds on it.
I've read some reviews on various sites that state this hanger is pretty damn good - better than the Bib - much more comfortable. Many people are also claiming they have gotten gains from it.

1) How long have you been using your LG Hanger

2) How often do you use it

3) Have you had any gains? If so where and how much?

4) What are your pros/cons to the product?
 
I posted this in your other thread then say you made this thread so I copy and pasted it from there.

I have used both the Lengthmaster and the LGhanger. Both are very good tools. I got up to 27 lbs with the LM. I am currently up to 10 lbs with the lghanger. I had gotten up to 13 lbs with the VacHanger3 before starting the LGhanger. So far the LGhanger is giving me as good of a stretch and fatigue at 10 lbs as the VH3 did at 13 lbs.

The great thing about the lengthmaster is being able to perform manual stretches with it as well. You can perform stretches with the lg too but I feel the lengthmaster does a better job of this. The handlebars make for great leverage. The lengthmaster is the way to go for bundled stretches for sure when it comes to comparing these tools. It also works great hanging. Your time limit is 15-20 minutes depending on how much weight you are doing and general individuality when it comes to comfort and response to the decreased circulation that results for a compression style hanger. There are many ways to wrap for this tool. Finding what works best for you us key to proper comfortable use.

What I like most about the Lghanger (and VH3) is how long I can keep it on and the great comfort I've experienced so far. I keep it on for 60 minute sessions, give or take a few mins. I have gone up to 70 minutes with no ill effect (was on the phone so didn't see my stopwatch was past 60) but don't recommend just b/c it's better to remove and reapply to be safe. I currently begin with 5 lbs. Then over the course of the hour go up to 10 lbs, doing 10 lbs the last 20-25 minutes.

I use water when using a vacuum hanger. Water provides great compressive forces against the glans as you increase the weight you're hanging. This is different from water pumps that suck the water out through a port leading to tissue expansion. Since a PE vacuum chamber is closed and sealed when you hang weight thus increasing hg pressure in the chamber the water doesn't escape through a port and it provides that compressive force back on the glans. This leads to a prevention of blood blisters. I experienced blood blisters when trying to use the VH3 with traditional methods such a 3M microfoam tape or tender tape. Some men report being able to hang 16+ lbs with those methods but I could not myself. Using water I get a nice swelling of the glans that goes away after 5-10 mins once it take off the LG. I don't know if this will lead to increased size of my glans but if so, great.

Negative effects have been reported with both tools. All of these can be avoided with proper use such as wrapping, skin care, and taking your time. To many men try to add weight to quickly. The majority of threads don't report these negative effects b/c most men find what works best for them.

Lengthmaster - skin tearing to varying degrees, just small cuts. Dry skin at attachment site. Fluid build up around glans and/or foreskin. Small blood blisters to glans. Numbness/coldness to glans. Decreased EQ. Pain when trying to increase weight. All easily avoidable and shouldn't deter anyone from purchasing a lengthmaster.

Lghanger/VH3 - Discoloration. Blood blisters. Fluid build up. Decreased EQ. Urethral bleeding. The only time I have seen urethral bleeding was from Kingsnake here at MOS. I believe he said he was doing 20 lbs. I don't know how he wrapped or how long he wore it for or how long it took him to build up to 20 lbs. To me that just means he needs to take it back a notch and reevaluate. Maybe he needs to improve his wrap or he went to heavy to soon. Urethral bleeding has been reported with water pumps and nobody is running away from them. You just tell them to take a short break and then build up slowly.

Uncircumcised men tend to have more trouble using these tools. Well they tend to have more trouble using any PE tools.

Whichever you decide on both are very good choices. Gains will be able to be achieved either way. That will be determined more by your consistency rather then which tool you choose.

I do not know if I will be able to hang heavy with the LGhanger yet. I am hopeful I will be able to but I will be progressing slowly to avoid negative effects and to maximize gains. Hanging 10 lbs with the lg though feels like hanging close to 20 lbs with compression style hangers from my experience. The stretch I get through my shaft into the internal penis feels great. I think a big part of this is due to being able to wear it for 60 minutes straight. I will take it off for 10 minutes minimum and then reapply it for another hour.

Also remember everything we read about results is anecdotal. You never know who is honest and who is not. That is one of the reason why I have made video and will continue to. I have made videos showing myself using the lengthmaster with resistant bands and hanging heavy weights. If you haven't seen them you can search for them in the LM forum or find my video library by googling my name.

I will have videos up for the LG showing how I use water to hang and for the VH3. Possibly before Christmas but if not they will be up in January for sure. In January I'll aslo be making a video of me hanging whatever weight I am up to at the time. Or maybe it will be a video saying I tried X lbs and got blood blisters. I hope not but I will be sharing my experience as I continue to use the LG.

I recommend the LGhanger myself. but again, I do not know yet how heavy I will be able to hang and don't suspect to know that for months. Some men get turned off to vacuum hangers b/c, "what if I can't hang heavy?" It's important to note that so few men report actually hanging heavy with any tools let alone show any proof of it. Most men don't stick with a PE routine to get to heavy weights. PE is a long road no suited for most.

Take your time reading up on these tools that way you can make your own educated decision. It's possible you'll come across a few haters depending what forums your on. They'll whatever tool you like that they don't. Just like religion or politics these people latch onto one idea far to heavily.

Check out this thread from longstretch here at MOS. I just found it earlier today while doing some hanging google searching and reading. He shares a lot of great info and pics.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...nging/83684-longstretchs-lg-hanger-setup.html

If you go to the lengthmaster forum you can find positive threads there as I'm sure you already know.

If you have any further questions just ask

And oh yeah. Over the years I have made it to 7". I found PE about 9 years ago. Always did it sporadically. I started around 6-6.5". I don't know exactly. Just started using vacuum hangers consistently so no gains to report yet. Longstretch reports making gains in that thread but does not provide any conclusive proof.
 
That thing about the water is a total lie that you can debunk for yourself. I always fill my bathmate half way, and just point it up to pump out the air. It gives the same suction as if you fill it all the way, and pump water out.

He got that logic from the bathmate people who tell you its better to pump while submerged. That way there's no chance of air bubble being left in the chamber, and you get more suction because that's what water does create more suction. For him to say that as long as you make sure not to squirt water out there wont be increased pressure just don't make sense. He already told a member here to use the water thing, and it went even worse.

Longerstretch is a hardcore hanger, and has been using a compression hanger to get real gains. Snake is another hardcore hanger, and look what it left him (now he advocates to only use the lg as an ads complement to his real hanging). There's two more guys I don't remember the names last month were complaining of blisters, and bruising.

All that negative stuff he said about the lengthmaster that's just trash talk because anyone who uses it how its meant to be only experiences massive fatigue from all the power.
 
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templnite;678994 said:
For him to say that as long as you make sure not to squirt water out there wont be increased pressure just don't make sense. He already told a member here to use the water thing, and it went even worse.

I didn't say that. I never said there won't be increased pressure. I said that without water escaping through a port the increased pressure leads to a compressive force with the water on the glans resulting in preventing blood blisters. Below is a quote of exactly what I said.

youknowme123321;678969 said:
I use water when using a vacuum hanger. Water provides great compressive forces against the glans as you increase the weight you're hanging. This is different from water pumps that suck the water out through a port leading to tissue expansion. Since a PE vacuum chamber is closed and sealed when you hang weight thus increasing hg pressure in the chamber the water doesn't escape through a port and it provides that compressive force back on the glans. This leads to a prevention of blood blisters. I experienced blood blisters when trying to use the VH3 with traditional methods such a 3M microfoam tape or tender tape. Some men report being able to hang 16+ lbs with those methods but I could not myself. Using water I get a nice swelling of the glans that goes away after 5-10 mins once it take off the LG. I don't know if this will lead to increased size of my glans but if so, great.

templnite;678994 said:
Longerstretch is a hardcore hanger, and has been using a compression hanger to get real gains. Snake is another hardcore hanger, and look what it left him (now he advocates to only use the lg as an ads complement to his real hanging). There's two more guys I don't remember the names last month were complaining of blisters, and bruising.

In post #18 of longstretch's thread it can be seen where longstretch says he gained twiced the length in half the time using a vac hanger. He doesn't mention making gains with a compression style hanger in that thread (at least I didn't come across it in that thread) but he may have reported that elsewhere. And I don't know if he has any proof of any gains with any tools so it is all anectdotal anyways just as 99.9999999% of PE gains are.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...nging/83684-longstretchs-lg-hanger-setup.html


templnite;678994 said:
All that negative stuff he said about the lengthmaster that's just trash talk because anyone who uses it how its meant to be only experiences massive fatigue from all the power.

The possible negative effects I wrote are all legitimate reports with the Lengthmaster and any compression style hanger for that matter but they are easily preventable. I made sure to say that they are all easily avoidable in my post. I avoided any negative effects when using the lengthmaster myself but some men haven't been able to.

youknowme123321;678969 said:
Lengthmaster - skin tearing to varying degrees, just small cuts. Dry skin at attachment site. Fluid build up around glans and/or foreskin. Small blood blisters to glans. Numbness/coldness to glans. Decreased EQ. Pain when trying to increase weight. All easily avoidable and shouldn't deter anyone from purchasing a lengthmaster.
 
Look man you took shots at the lengthmaster that's all I thought. Why did you mention those things I've never even heard of those side effects. You don't get fluid buildup or skin tearing you might get some soreness at the attachment point but that's because you didn't attach right. With the LG you get all the side effects even when doing everything right!
 
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youknowme123321;678969 said:
Negative effects have been reported with both tools. All of these can be avoided with proper use such as wrapping, skin care, and taking your time. To many men try to add weight to quickly. The majority of threads don't report these negative effects b/c most men find what works best for them.

Lengthmaster - skin tearing to varying degrees, just small cuts. Dry skin at attachment site. Fluid build up around glans and/or foreskin. Small blood blisters to glans. Numbness/coldness to glans. Decreased EQ. Pain when trying to increase weight. All easily avoidable and shouldn't deter anyone from purchasing a lengthmaster.

Lghanger/VH3 - Discoloration. Blood blisters. Fluid build up. Decreased EQ. Urethral bleeding. The only time I have seen urethral bleeding was from Kingsnake here at MOS. I believe he said he was doing 20 lbs. I don't know how he wrapped or how long he wore it for or how long it took him to build up to 20 lbs. To me that just means he needs to take it back a notch and reevaluate. Maybe he needs to improve his wrap or he went to heavy to soon. Urethral bleeding has been reported with water pumps and nobody is running away from them. You just tell them to take a short break and then build up slowly.

And what are the solutions you are using? I am not aware of these issues happening with the LengthMaster if used correctly. Are you speaking from personal experience or do you have people to point to that have had these issues? It is perfectly fins to give negatives but it is better to offer solutions.
 
Commodore;678986 said:
Kingsnake did go as heavy as 25lb right ? but for how long ? hour ?

I have hung 60 pounds from the LengthMaster with no issues. What is most important in all of these things is using the proper wrap, following healing measures, keeping skin in good shape using Hydrocortisone, deep massage after training, and many other practiced that when employed reduce risks significantly.
 
Still, Could you send me your Hanger so I can personally review?
 
doublelongdaddy;679032 said:
And what are the solutions you are using? I am not aware of these issues happening with the LengthMaster if used correctly. Are you speaking from personal experience or do you have people to point to that have had these issues? It is perfectly fins to give negatives but it is better to offer solutions.

You gotta learn how to use the tools proper, right? I know stillwantsmore felt the same way about the very one-sided critique given to him as well
 
doublelongdaddy;679032 said:
And what are the solutions you are using? I am not aware of these issues happening with the LengthMaster if used correctly. Are you speaking from personal experience or do you have people to point to that have had these issues? It is perfectly fins to give negatives but it is better to offer solutions.

These are possibilities with all compression style hangers including the lengthmaster but not if used correctly. I made sure to say that they are all avoidable. Post #162 in the thread below shows a pic shared by Iveadream of fluid build up, redness, and healing skin tears. He was using the MH2. This is avoidable but possible with the lengthmaster. I only share this thread b/c I commented in it recently and am able to find it. Also he shared a pic. If these were huge issues and not easily avoidable I would go back and find threads. Also if men shared pics or videos to actually show these negative effects I would go back to find those but men don't so for all I know they are just telling lies. Men who reported negative effects with vac hangers could be telling lies. There aren't pics being shared as much as there needs to be for any tools. When it comes to both of these tools I am only speaking of possible but easily avoidable negative effects.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...t-hanging/87289-iveadreams-hanging-log-9.html

I have solutions. If anyone goes to the lengthmaster video section they can see my solutions and how I wrap to avoid any injury and use the LM comfortably. In my large post above I said to go to the lengthmaster forum.

doublelongdaddy;679033 said:
I have hung 60 pounds from the LengthMaster with no issues. What is most important in all of these things is using the proper wrap, following healing measures, keeping skin in good shape using Hydrocortisone, deep massage after training, and many other practiced that when employed reduce risks significantly.

To continue talking about proof...do I belive DLD hung 60 lbs with a LM...yes I do. but without proof can I be certain...no I can not even though I believe it is possible and that he telling the truth. I have never done it or seen videos of anyone doing it.

Again I believe DLD has done this and any man could with proper build up to it.

This is where I come into PE. This is one of the reasons behind me starting to make videos. If I say I can hang 10 lbs with the LGhanger and use water to avoid blisters then there will be a video proving this without a doubt. If I say I can hang 27 lbs with the lengthmaster I will make a video of it to show it without a doubt (I already did).

PE needs more proof.

Anyone who reads the posts in this thread what you should take away from this is to look for solid evidence rather then anecdotal reports. Right now even my lghanger reports are anecdotal. I do have some VH3 pics on this site hanging 13lbs with water but anyone can manipulate a pic. Did I manipulate my pics...no, but I can't prove I didn't until I make the videos.
 
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templnite;679038 said:
You gotta learn how to use the tools proper, right? I know stillwantsmore felt the same way about the very one-sided critique given to him as well

Agree.
 
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