Hydromax Arrived, Questions!

Hey DLD, so i have both Bathmates the original one and now this Hydromax one.

So far i get a better workout with the original however today is first day with Hydromax and im not sure if im doing it right.

1) The small grey switch on the top, what i did was flick it to either side to lock it so no water leaks out, then i filled it in the shower. I inserted my penis into the Bathmate Hydromax, once it was full i then opened the valve by putting it to the middle and began to pump, once i pumped as much as i could i would then again flick it to one side to lock it so no air would come out.

Am i doing it correctly?


i feel like expansion is not as intense in this one, also when i even try to pull a TINY bit to attempt a hardcore stretch it will lose suction and slide off unlike my old one that i can do hardcore stretches with.

So i am a little lost,

im at the 6 inch mark in the Bathmate hopefully i max out that 7, i think with the older Bathmate im way past that so i dont get it.

ownd;510849 said:

Hey DLD, so i have both Bathmates the original one and now this Hydromax one.

So far i get a better workout with the original however today is first day with Hydromax and im not sure if im doing it right.

1) The small grey switch on the top, what i did was flick it to either side to lock it so no water leaks out, then i filled it in the shower. I inserted my penis into the Bathmate Hydromax, once it was full i then opened the valve by putting it to the middle and began to pump, once i pumped as much as i could i would then again flick it to one side to lock it so no air would come out.

Am i doing it correctly?


i feel like expansion is not as intense in this one, also when i even try to pull a TINY bit to attempt a hardcore stretch it will lose suction and slide off unlike my old one that i can do hardcore stretches with.

So i am a little lost,

im at the 6 inch mark in the Bathmate hopefully i max out that 7, i think with the older Bathmate im way past that so i dont get it.

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I am doing things the exact same and have the exact same problem when it comes to the stretches.
I am seriously considering returning it and getting a X-40 or Penomet.

I also put vaseline on the end of the gaiter to get a stronger suction and I noticed that with the comfort pad the pressure is greatly reduced.

It is very simple, with the switch in the down position you pump and pump to whatever level you desire. The pump will stay at that pressure for some time but you will need to pump more to increase. To release, the switch should be in the up position. As I said, you CAN NOT DO hardcore stretches with the comfort pad installed, it needs to be removed to perform them or the pad will simply fall from the body.

It is very simple, with the switch in the down position you pump and pump to whatever level you desire. The pump will stay at that pressure for some time but you will need to pump more to increase

by down position you mean either left or right, or all the way up or down i guess not hte middle? when i leave it in the locked positions i cant pump, no water will come out at all since its locked so now im confused? only way i can pump is if its in the open position (middle).

ownd;510849 said:

im at the 6 inch mark in the Bathmate hopefully i max out that 7, i think with the older Bathmate im way past that so i dont get it.

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This is what I don't get. In the X-40 I was on 195-200 all the time. No matter when I pumped, no matter how long I hadn't pumped for. And now I'm finding it hard just getting to the 7 inch mark. Doesn't quite add up. I find the X40 is far more powerful too, so surely I should be able to pump even further?

ownd;510857 said:

by down position you mean either left or right, or all the way up or down i guess not hte middle? when i leave it in the locked positions i cant pump, no water will come out at all since its locked so now im confused? only way i can pump is if its in the open position (middle).

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Dislexia is a hell of a thing The open position. To make it clear, if you are in the pump, first click switch up so you know it is in the locked position (down if the pump is upside down) now simply click one down. It is now open and can be pumped.

Medicating;510860 said:

This is what I don't get. In the X-40 I was on 195-200 all the time. No matter when I pumped, no matter how long I hadn't pumped for. And now I'm finding it hard just getting to the 7 inch mark. Doesn't quite add up. I find the X40 is far more powerful too, so surely I should be able to pump even further?

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I would not go by the measurements on the tube, I would go by real measurements. I have never really used the gauge on my X-40 as it is different all the time. I go by post girth measurements using a tape. The pressure is much stronger in the X40, so I would just go by post girth measurements.

doublelongdaddy;510866 said:

Dislexia is a hell of a thing The open position. To make it clear, if you are in the pump, first click switch up so you know it is in the locked position (down if the pump is upside down) now simply click one down. It is now open and can be pumped.



I would not go by the measurements on the tube, I would go by real measurements. I have never really used the gauge on my X-40 as it is different all the time. I go by post girth measurements using a tape. The pressure is much stronger in the X40, so I would just go by post girth measurements.

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Yeah. That's what I thought. Not going to trust that gauge anymore. But seriously... if i measured my girth today, flaccid... at least 6. It looked like a fat ass slug in my hands. It's still fat too, and I haven't worn a cock ring. I'm going to Bathmate daily

Medicating;510867 said:

Yeah. That's what I thought. Not going to trust that gauge anymore. But seriously... if i measured my girth today, flaccid... at least 6. It looked like a fat ass slug in my hands. It's still fat too, and I haven't worn a cock ring. I'm going to Bathmate daily

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lol...I get you, and now understand the other post Yes, 6" is massive in girth, 7" is really massive.

doublelongdaddy;510854 said:

It is very simple, with the switch in the down position you pump and pump to whatever level you desire. The pump will stay at that pressure for some time but you will need to pump more to increase. To release, the switch should be in the up position. As I said, you CAN NOT DO hardcore stretches with the comfort pad installed, it needs to be removed to perform them or the pad will simply fall from the body.

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I have been taking off the comfort pad and putting vaseline on the actual gaiter and trying to do hardcore stretches but it still leaks in bubbles and pressure is released.

ownd;510857 said:

It is very simple, with the switch in the down position you pump and pump to whatever level you desire. The pump will stay at that pressure for some time but you will need to pump more to increase

by down position you mean either left or right, or all the way up or down i guess not hte middle? when i leave it in the locked positions i cant pump, no water will come out at all since its locked so now im confused? only way i can pump is if its in the open position (middle).

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I can pump in both the locked (left and right) and open (middle) positions but in the locked position I have to use as much force as I can and it hurts like hell.

So far which pump do you like better your X-40 or the x40?

Papi Champagne;510874 said:

I have been taking off the comfort pad and putting vaseline on the actual gaiter and trying to do hardcore stretches but it still leaks in bubbles and pressure is released.

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With hardcore stretches I would not use the vaseline around the seal. That will cause the Bathmate to release easily. I use the vaseline during pumping but during Hardcore Stretches I use nothing.

Papi Champagne;510874 said:

I can pump in both the locked (left and right) and open (middle) positions but in the locked position I have to use as much force as I can and it hurts like hell.

So far which pump do you like better your X-40 or the x40?

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I am just seeing this third position now in that perspective. I am baffled by the reason for the third position. I am looking through the literature and seeing nothing. I thought that it was a locked position. So I am trying to pump, now, in this position and it is extremely difficult but possible. It is quite painful at the base but pressure does build up. I am wondering if this is simply a high setting? It is possible to pump in the position. All part of the learning process. I used it is the center position thinking that is the only "pump" position and the pressure was good. I have to go it partially flaccid but the pressure felt great. In the locked position it feels even more intense.

What do I like better? The X-40 The X-40 and the X40 seemed pretty equal at first but at I pumped more and more I started to learn it better and see the increase in pressure. What makes it seem gentle in comparison to the X-40 is the Comfort Pad but I think the X40 is the stronger pump (especially now that I am fucking with the three positions).

As I said in the very beginning, the Hydromax X40, in my opinion, is the test for a new line of Bathmates made under the Hydromax name. I think the comfort pad was a very ingenious solution to an ongoing problem with the Bathmate line, being the comfort pad coming apart. I thought the new valve to be very simple until you had me look at it closer, now I think there is more complexity to it and possibly additional functions. I need to need really get into the valve and try these setting, with and without comfort pad, with pump sleeve, etc.

I have not even considered the comparison to the X-40 and that is a very hard question for me....MOS made the current Bathmate work, as a matter of fact, work much better than it was designed to be used. I have a very special place in my heart for the X-40 and X-40 (particularly because of my size). I think the success of the Hydromax X40 and it becoming the new line will be how we, the public, react to it. I am trying not to make any quick judgements as I know MOS has a way of getting to and through something pretty quickly, with all kind of advice, discoveries, modification, etc. To be fair, I would like to spend more time with my model.

I am finding the comparison not to be between the Hydromax and the Penomet....They almost seem like two completely different crowds. The question is the difference between the original and the new. Let us not be rash, let us discover and explore with the X40 and see what it is all about. As simple as that sounds, it was a 2 year process with the first Bathmate. I am really trying to decide if I would rather a X-40 in the X40 or one as it stands....tough question....I really need time to compare and weigh it out.

Remember, I have had the pump as long as you...I had no prevue, I am learning it with you. I have had a Penomet for months, but was not able to even mention it! So fucked up how business works. I really like that Agust gave me the Penomet for a healthy, long time to really, really, really learn and get to know. I will continue to work with the X40 and see what more I can learn. What I can advise is to be careful, it may seem like the pressure is not as strong due to the comfort of the pad, but it is...don't over do it. learn it with safety!

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doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

With hardcore stretches I would not use the vaseline around the seal. That will cause the Bathmate to release easily. I use the vaseline during pumping but during Hardcore Stretches I use nothing.

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This explains quite a bit.

doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

I am just seeing this third position now in that perspective. I am baffled by the reason for the third position. I am looking through the literature and seeing nothing. I thought that it was a locked position. So I am trying to pump, now, in this position and it is extremely difficult but possible. It is quite painful at the base but pressure does build up. I am wondering if this is simply a high setting? It is possible to pump in the position. All part of the learning process. I used it is the center position thinking that is the only "pump" position and the pressure was good. I have to go it partially flaccid but the pressure felt great. In the locked position it feels even more intense.

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Hahaha I just kept reading your other posts thinking wtf there is three positions.
That cleared up some confusion.
I initially was pumping with it always on lock and all I can say is the pressure was insane but it absolutely killed my ligaments.

doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

What do I like better? The X-40 The X-40 and the X40 seemed pretty equal at first but at I pumped more and more I started to learn it better and see the increase in pressure. What makes it seem gentle in comparison to the X-40 is the Comfort Pad but I think the X40 is the stronger pump (especially now that I am fucking with the three positions).

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I have tried the new Bathmate many different ways. (scenarios: in the bath, shower, at my computer)(Tried: with and without the comfort pad)
I have noticed that the pump is incredible in the bath as when I attach it while it is fully suBathmateerged underwater the pressure is the greatest.
In the shower the pressure was decent but I seemed to always have air in the tube no matter what I do.
At the computer is just a bit to difficult for me. I just make a huge mess and I also have a problem with the air leaking into the tube.
As for with and without the comfort pad the pressure is slightly greater without the comfort pad in all three scenarios.

doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

I have not even considered the comparison to the X-40 and that is a very hard question for me....MOS made the current Bathmate work, as a matter of fact, work much better than it was designed to be used. I have a very special place in my heart for the X-40 and X-40 (particularly because of my size). I think the success of the Hydromax X40 and it becoming the new line will be how we, the public, react to it. I am trying not to make any quick judgements as I know MOS has a way of getting to and through something pretty quickly, with all kind of advice, discoveries, modification, etc. To be fair, I would like to spend more time with my model.

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This is very true. I am currently on a search for a wine vac to see if it is able to be applied to the Hydromax and fix all suction problems once and for all.

doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

I am finding the comparison not to be between the Hydromax and the Penomet....They almost seem like two completely different crowds. The question is the difference between the original and the new. Let us not be rash, let us discover and explore with the X40 and see what it is all about. As simple as that sounds, it was a 2 year process with the first Bathmate. I am really trying to decide if I would rather a X-40 in the X40 or one as it stands....tough question....I really need time to compare and weigh it out.

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Different crowds how?
Being honest once I saw the Penomet features I felt as if it would be the better buy based off features alone.
But I will give the Hydromax a chance.

doublelongdaddy;510876 said:

Remember, I have had the pump as long as you...I had no prevue, I am learning it with you. I have had a Penomet for months, but was not able to even mention it! So fucked up how business works. I really like that Agust gave me the Penomet for a healthy, long time to really, really, really learn and get to know. I will continue to work with the X40 and see what more I can learn. What I can advise is to be careful, it may seem like the pressure is not as strong due to the comfort of the pad, but it is...don't over do it. learn it with safety!/QUOTE]
And what is your take on the Penomet compared to the X-40 that you have had for months?

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Papi Champagne;510880 said:

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I love nothing more than typing answers Letter away!

Papi Champagne;510880 said:

Hahaha I just kept reading your other posts thinking wtf there is three positions.
That cleared up some confusion.
I initially was pumping with it always on lock and all I can say is the pressure was insane but it absolutely killed my ligaments.

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And this is why the forum is so incredible. We learn very quickly. As a matter of fact, I guaranty in a week we will be the ones who write the instruction manual....what else is new?

Papi Champagne;510880 said:

I have tried the new Bathmate many different ways. (scenarios: in the bath, shower, at my computer)(Tried: with and without the comfort pad)
I have noticed that the pump is incredible in the bath as when I attach it while it is fully suBathmateerged underwater the pressure is the greatest.
In the shower the pressure was decent but I seemed to always have air in the tube no matter what I do.
At the computer is just a bit to difficult for me. I just make a huge mess and I also have a problem with the air leaking into the tube.
As for with and without the comfort pad the pressure is slightly greater without the comfort pad in all three scenarios.

This is very true. I am currently on a search for a wine vac to see if it is able to be applied to the Hydromax and fix all suction problems once and for all.

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Agree on all fronts, particularly with the increase in water leakage from the separate pad. During Hardcore Stretches and when using outside the bath the comfort pad should be removed. I love being able to say that, "remove the comfort pad" such a smart innovation but obvious issues have arrived. I fear nothing, we will make it all make sense and work.
MOS has always been a manual forum that has taken equipment and made it our own, I see you dive into modification and improvement as inspiring. It is the true spirit of the forum.

Papi Champagne;510880 said:

Different crowds how?
Being honest once I saw the Penomet features I felt as if it would be the better buy based off features alone.
But I will give the Hydromax a chance.

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I see the Bathmate brand as a very strong, constantly growing base. I see the Penomet as a new, specialized direction in hydropumping and I think the price make it a tough choice. It is similar to the way I see SizeGenetics Fans and Penimaster Pro fans...they are a different crowd. I think as Penomet grows, which I think will be very quickly, there is no other competition in this massive market. I hope that answers the question. The Hydromax is a fixed unit, powerful, but fixed. The Penomet is not and with the ease of taking it apart modifications can be pretty fucking extreme, believe me! So I think the crowd splits into a grassroots type audience and a more commercial one.

As far as gaining goes, everyone knows what I think....Five on Five three times daily. I don't care if you are using your X-40, X40, Penomet or even a cheap ass fireman pump modified for water...5 on 5, three times daily.

Papi Champagne;510880 said:

And what is your take on the Penomet compared to the X-40 that you have had for months?

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Haha, I have already tried to stretch a Penomet gaiter over an old X-40 tube You know me, I am going to have some fun here. But, for the time being, my X-40 is my best friend. I am patient and will wait for the market to think about guys like me...they already promised these additional models.

im going to keep experimenting also tommorow with the positions as well as without the comfort pad and see, also waht is the penomet? any pros and cons or can you go into more detail about it?

ownd;510884 said:

im going to keep experimenting also tommorow with the positions as well as without the comfort pad and see, also waht is the penomet? any pros and cons or can you go into more detail about it?

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Penomet is a different hydropump that has interchangable gaiters for more or less pressure.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...i-Gaiter-System-(open-box-video-with-discount!)

DLD's video review in that link



And DLD thanks for your input.

Papi Champagne;510887 said:

Penomet is a different hydropump that has interchangable gaiters for more or less pressure.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...i-Gaiter-System-(open-box-video-with-discount!)

DLD's video review in that link



And DLD thanks for your input.

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No problem

ownd;510884 said:

im going to keep experimenting also tommorow with the positions as well as without the comfort pad and see, also waht is the penomet? any pros and cons or can you go into more detail about it?

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I am like a mad man with a pile of pump parts mixing and matching, stretching and wondering. I am getting king of dizzy with equipment I have a growing pile of equipment that is occupying much of my living room

Hydromax pros are first, the new model to begin with. I see this as a very big step for a company like Bathmate, it shows they have become successful and that their fan base has grown. The Comfort Pad is a big pro that can also be a big con as we have already explored. This is made up for by removing it but this also means a loss of close to an inch of pump length (the depth of the comfort pad). From that same perspective it is also a pro in the sense that Bathmate could release deeper comfort pads for longer men. The new valve is still up for critique. So far I have not enough experience with the 5 million positions the switch can be in Papi and I are still trying to figure this out The additional pressure is a pro but learning to get to that state takes time and practice....this is not really a con but simplicity of use is always better. The increased pressure can become quite intense which is also a big plus. Big con, I think Bathmate should have released the X40 as a Midsize model, cost would have been justified and a market satisfied. Pro, they are a great company with a great product that is working very hard to perfect it.

The Penomet also shares some of the same pros and cons. The Penomet is an inventors dream pump, it can be disassembled quicker than field stripping an AK47 The Gaiters go from "gentle" to "I will rip your fucking cock out of your body" this is a definite pro and extremely smart, new, deeper, gaiters, can be created to satisfy a large audience. Con, hardcore stretches are just not possible without modification, pro, I have already made the modification (adjustable pvc pipe clamp). The Penomet would not have been able to accomplish the pump to satisfy this exercise as the Gaiters were designed to be removed. No big deal, the pipe clamp is perfect. Pro is the plastic they are using and the way the imprint all measurements on the tube. Very clean and no chance of mis-measuring (if thats what you can call measuring in the tube), I have always relied on real measurements with a tape and ruler. Con, their packaging could be nicer but I suppose this will get better as the company grows, I can see where they put their money...the Gaiters are genius and a smart investment on Penomets part.

I have love for both pumps and I will not really deviate too much from this. I have both and I use both and I love being a part of the entire hydropump movement. I think it is one of the coolest things to ever happen to Penis Enlargement. Both companies can share a very large market with very little competition. I think this will make both companies strive harder to bring better and better products to market. In addition I love that we host the Penomet forum alongside the Bathmate forum...It shows our unbias spirit in the support of their efforts. Congratulations to both companies.

doublelongdaddy;510891 said:

I am like a mad man with a pile of pump parts mixing and matching, stretching and wondering. I am getting king of dizzy with equipment I have a growing pile of equipment that is occupying much of my living room

Hydromax pros are first, the new model to begin with. I see this as a very big step for a company like Bathmate, it shows they have become successful and that their fan base has grown. The Comfort Pad is a big pro that can also be a big con as we have already explored. This is made up for by removing it but this also means a loss of close to an inch of pump length (the depth of the comfort pad). From that same perspective it is also a pro in the sense that Bathmate could release deeper comfort pads for longer men. The new valve is still up for critique. So far I have not enough experience with the 5 million positions the switch can be in Papi and I are still trying to figure this out The additional pressure is a pro but learning to get to that state takes time and practice....this is not really a con but simplicity of use is always better. The increased pressure can become quite intense which is also a big plus. Big con, I think Bathmate should have released the X40 as a Midsize model, cost would have been justified and a market satisfied. Pro, they are a great company with a great product that is working very hard to perfect it.

The Penomet also shares some of the same pros and cons. The Penomet is an inventors dream pump, it can be disassembled quicker than field stripping an AK47 The Gaiters go from "gentle" to "I will rip your fucking cock out of your body" this is a definite pro and extremely smart, new, deeper, gaiters, can be created to satisfy a large audience. Con, hardcore stretches are just not possible without modification, pro, I have already made the modification (adjustable pvc pipe clamp). The Penomet would not have been able to accomplish the pump to satisfy this exercise as the Gaiters were designed to be removed. No big deal, the pipe clamp is perfect. Pro is the plastic they are using and the way the imprint all measurements on the tube. Very clean and no chance of mis-measuring (if thats what you can call measuring in the tube), I have always relied on real measurements with a tape and ruler. Con, their packaging could be nicer but I suppose this will get better as the company grows, I can see where they put their money...the Gaiters are genius and a smart investment on Penomets part.

I have love for both pumps and I will not really deviate too much from this. I have both and I use both and I love being a part of the entire hydropump movement. I think it is one of the coolest things to ever happen to Penis Enlargement. Both companies can share a very large market with very little competition. I think this will make both companies strive harder to bring better and better products to market. In addition I love that we host the Penomet forum alongside the Bathmate forum...It shows our unbias spirit in the support of their efforts. Congratulations to both companies.

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Penomet question...
Are all gaiters the same size and will one sleeve fit them all?

Papi Champagne;510893 said:

Penomet question...
Are all gaiters the same size and will one sleeve fit them all?

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Yes, all the same size. The difference is is density.

From another thread but wanted to get this info in this thread too:

Elmoore;509594 said:

Hi everyone, I'm happy to have received the new Hydromax Bathmate this morning and It's AWESOME!!!
It comes in the same discreet package as the previous Bathmate model.
- the new soft seeling is indeed very confortable
- the 360 Swivel Bellows is also a nice addition
- Imperial scale is also new. I have to say the scale is much more accurate than in the previous model (ex: the scale in the old batmate would read 6.5 inches whereas in reality it was 6 inches)
- the actual pump slightly bigger in diameter than the previous Bathmate. Worth pointing out as I hear a lot of people saying they would like see a model that is between the X-40 and the X-40 in size.
- It did not notice a significant difference in the added pressure (X35). Maybe it will become more obvious in the next days.
- A small improvement that made a big difference is the valve cap. On top of the pump there is small switch that block the water from coming out. In the previous Bathmate, when the pump was full, the water would slowly leak out of the cap, that was a bit annoying as you had to put extra water to fill the pump. Now with the lock it's exactly like filling a bottle with water (but be careful when put your penis inside the pump don't forget to leave the cap open so that the water get's out otherwise you can get a lot of pressure)

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Hydromax X40 Review contained within this thread. Will prioritize and add to it and make it's own thread. Just a reminder for me.