ok here are the measured pics I had promised. again the purpose of this thread is to show improvement. Go see the first post of this thread I was no more than 4.75 x 6.6. My stats are as in my sig - in these pics the girth is larger bc i am clamped. Also, the length is less bc i could not stay 100% hard. But it is close enough to post. I hate taking these kind of pics and hope they are well received.