What is it about chicks and their inability to measure? and really what is it with swinger chicks talking like 13" cocks like they grow on trees and how they need it big and fat but are married to guy's with 6" cocks??? and why do these cuckolds want to see thier woman with a huge dick bigger than theirs.
check this link out for some of the craziest size talk I have read in a long long time.
http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4635
here is some of the text its pretty long so click the link to read it all
I got this letter from Kelli & Jack, one of the many couple who have suBathmateitted several great stories to the Swinger Stories area. I decided to post it here (with their permission) rather than in the stories section itself (although I will be including a link in the stories section to this topic). I'm sure that they aren't the only authors who have recieved emails of this kind and I thought that posting this here would give others a chance to respond as well.
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Here is a little different story. Not sure that it fits, but I am sure that your other writers will enjoy the response because we all receive tons of great e-mails from most, and a few who just don't understand how comfortable swinging can be, or even how much it can do for an already healthy relationship
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Most of us who write these stories are sharing a part of our hearts and souls to share our adventures.
Please understand that I know I have to thicken my skin, but please understand that we don't get paid for what we write. I glow when someone sends a note saying how much they enjoyed the story. I'm stunned when they compliment my writing style. But I am also stunned by those who are in disbelief.
Swingers exist everywhere. Sensational stories come out of many of those encounters. I thought, and think, that I am doing a favor for those of you who enjoy reading my tales. And that favor has been repaid many times over by the kind and thoughtful responses.
We are in the middle of conversations with a few people nearby and from around the world (well Australia anyway) who may meet us on vacation to see what we can get up to. But if you think it is hard to fit schedules together for meetings with a couple or two around town, just try making it work when couples from 12,000 miles away try to meet – here, there, Or in between.
Now, please read the e-mails we got that made me need to respond, and then my response........it's not all vim and vinegar. But, it also is not a narrative on a great weekend we had that would qualify as a story I want to tell for the way our little sexual and/or sensual kismet took place. I do hope you publish it anyway.
It's about why what you read from me is the real stuff......names are changed, although I do leave some similarities that will tip off the people we have lost contact with and would love to find again. The details, locations, numbers of people, even the color of eyes, hair, skin, or sheets, clothes, or condoms are exactly what I remember ( and sometimes corrected after discussion with jack who acts as the editor while he checks facts and grammar). We've even cheated you, the reader, out of some juicy details, just cuz we just couldn't agree as to what happened or how it happened a particular time.
Anyway, if you can find enough sexy stuff in it, publish it. Maybe include the note to you too. Thanks again,
Kelli
I love the positive comments….but there are others as well………….
By Kelli in St Louis
This is what the reader wrote:
>Just read Kelly shocks Jack in Vegas. I'm not into swinging,and my wife is waaay not into it, but I love reading
>these stories. Only one thing-did you have to say that the guys cock was well over 12 >inches?That kinda make >the story sound fake.
My response was:
>sorry to hurt your ego, and………jack and I were both shocked, and impressed, as well, but the truth is, Scotts dick >was well over 12"…………probably just over 13", but certainly over 12" easilly. and it was both thick, and very hard >too.
>Kelli
Here is his reply to my reply.
>Hey, it had nothing to do with my ego. It wasn't my wife banging a guy with a giant one. My point was that it >made the story seem unreal,like the Penthouse Forum letters where everybody is 8,9,or 10 inches. If it really was >12 or better,than good for you. But how do you go back to your mans 6 >incher after that?
Now that was even easier to answer, so please read a little "stream of consciousness" rantings from "cute little, sweet little, soft spoken, me."
Love, dedication, and commitment.......that helps a lot......find it before you swing.
Attention. Caring. Acceptance of each other's desires.
Voyeurism.
Exhibitionism.
Experimentation.
That nagging wonder about whether really "big" penises truly exist. Ask for them exclusively in sexy chat rooms or in your profile and you will be flooded with guys and pictures of their "little/big guys". And, some of them might just turn out to be a semi-normal guy who you would consider meeting or meating.
The curiosity about the rumors that most dicks of greater proportion have a minor to often major problem with firmness The biggest I've seen was not very firm, but most of the others were........and we have seen quite a few more than we have played with because you just can't desire everybody or even have the time for those you do.
And then the curiosity ran to the multiple comments over the years from friends who had their first, or repeated, experiences with truly oversized dicks that hurt them either a little--some said that was good while others said that it was horrible and had to be ended early--some said it was horrible, they had to stop (and some were even out of commission for a day or two, while others adapted and had great fun…..some made rules about how far he was to thrust, others shifted to more oral or positions where they had more control over what parts and what strokes could work.
Jack was all for it. He was amazed at the size, especial since Scott was not a very big guy otherwise.
Jack also likes seeing me get so turned by on another guy with a different technique and/or different size, or a bi lady (with or without hubbies till we want them there) that I finally let loose and get so involved I really come at a whole different level.
So, Scott was my first real big cock, but I was "spoiled" as you would have us believe by your comments by both of my earliest boyfriends because they were both exactly 8 and a half inches.
My first was very thick. It was awkward, and a bit painful the first two or three times. I adapted to its size and the sex got great.
The second was much skinnier (he even apologized for its small size despite its length !) but it was my favorite because I could really feel exactly where it was bottoming out, and he loved to shift his hips every third or forth thurst from a different angle (advantage -- skinny dicks).
I've had six inchers, seven's, and a even a couple of tens, over the years.
But, I've also had a couple of five's, four's, and there was one guy in my long distant past who I dated for six months, active sexually after 1.5 of those months. He has a buff body. A nice guy. One of the most romantic I ever met. His penis, fully erect (harder than any before, or after -- heck, it is actually harder than some toys I have) is two and three quarters of an inch long. Erect.....and then it almost entirely withdrew into his ball sac and pelvis when soft.
That is measured with the ruler pushed hard into his pelvis, measuring along the top. 2.75" with a head that measures 1.75" across and a shaft about .75" accross Someone else can figure out the circumference (is it PI R squared?). But that is small. Still, he, and it, were good. I had to adapt, but my grip with my keegle muscles got great.
Jack isn't hung like these guys, but he finds me quite tight with his dick (6 when just barely hard, 7+ when really turned on), tongue (shorter) and fingers (various lengths, and they come in sets {and sometimes, they make me cum in sets too). Remember, most of our sexlife is just the two of us at home. In love, and very able to make true love just with each other. We are also quite able to then choose to be kinkier and more inventive when we feel like it.
It's just the rare occasion that the time and desire for adding a body or two to our fun gets to the top of our to-do list.
And then Jack feels he is giving me some size and position from the other guys that he will never be able to give me himself.
He also relishes my taste for bisexual fun. It's always giggly fun, it always get us all off real good (even if he only get to beat off sometimes). And at times, it gets him a threesome or more with beautiful young ladies who are truly BI and interested in sex with both parts of a couple (sometimes by herself, sometimes with hubby, and one time, with two of her girlfriends in tow).
And then there are the couples.
First timers. Both the dedicated and those scared out their skin. This can be the very best, but that is only if it isn't the worst.
Those couples who started the night pissed off at each other, but came to your meeting anyway. Good luck with these.
Or our dream couples who just naturally made us feel comfortable. Quite a few of these have easily made up for having to wade through the others.
The few other lovers we've gotten together with over the years seem to agree that big dicks, don't stretch you out for long. The vagina is quite elastic. The more you squeeze the stronger your muscles get. The stronger you get those keegles, the tighter everyone will feel you are.
I had a baby, and was quite loose for more than six months. With keegle exercises, I am sure I am tighter now than after high school.
We like to swing a little, usually, two or three time a year. Usually on vacation. We try to meet a new friend or two. BI ladies alone are the dream, but we are realists, and couples with BI females are easier to find. And those slightly more rare times come along when we just want a studlike, yet gentlemanly, guy to get some serious fucking in.
There is a lot to be said about " it's not the size, its the ability".
But there is still a lot to be said for sheer size too.
Big boobs catch the eye, but most people we have really talked heart to heart to about it find that a semi-small to medium, well formed, natural breast, seems to have more sensitivity, and is considerably easier to delicately caress.
Big dicks can provide the same problems. And others.
And, smaller dicks often get invited into places that big dicks just aren't as welcome. HHydromaxm?
I hope this exposure to my observations on the human penis has allowed you to understand that I wasn't sensationalizing when I described our friend's dick.
We prefer to meet couples, but have loved most of our threesome attempts as well. BI females of South Florida, please get in touch, with or without a significant other. Our vacation is coming up. And we will have the time to really make it comfortable for a BI-curious lady to have her first experience be a dream like mine was.
May 2 through 12 at Haulover Beach. The only legal nude beach in America which is located at the very farthest north part of Miami County, FL.
Please get in touch immediately, the computer isn't going with us so we will have to make contact this week. Or on the nude beach section at Haulover.
Kelli
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05-09-2003, 04:00 PM #2
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We believe you, Kelli. Of the five couples we've played with, one guy claimed 9.5 inches (Mrs. Alura believed him) and another was, in Mrs. Alura's opinion, bigger, though not much. Unfortunately, we chose not to play with both couples after the first time, but it had nothing to do with the size of their cocks. We like your stories.
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05-17-2003, 08:45 AM #3
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Kelli and Jack, I had always heard stories, about 12" dicks, and I myself had my doubts. After swinging for a couple of years, my wife said my 7.5-8" was bigger than any of the men she had encountered, of the 6-8 couples we had been with. Then we meet a couple we both liked, my wife and the other lady got along good. They held small parties at there home, usually about 10 couples. It was easy for us to addend their parties, because it was only an hour drive to their home as compaired to a 2-3 hour drive to a club in the city. After a few parties we had become a part of their circle of friends, and felt comfortable with all the other couples. Many times we heard them talk about a black man that most of the other couples had meet. They told my wife she would have to meet him.
Later at a party at the club they introduced him to us. We had never done anything but couple/couple, so we never thought about meeting with a single male. He set with our group and we talked to him a few times and he was always nice and polite. Later when we was alone, with the other couple they asked us what we thought of him, and if we would like to get together with him. We just said we hadn't thought about it. The lady told my wife she should try him, that he was good in bed.
A month passed and we were at the club, and a couple of the ladies were feeling mischevious. They were with the man I mentioned, and came over to the table and told my wife to come with them. They all went on the dance floor. They danced in a circle with my wife facing the man. When the dance was over they came back to the table all giggling like school girls. One of the ladies joked and told me I better keep my eyes on my wife. This was not an on premise club, but the manager was pretty lenient as long as things didn't go too far. So I knew they had showed his penis to my wife. Later that night my wife danced with him again by herself. On the way home she told me about the other girls taking his dick out of his pants, and said she could feel it between her legs below her shirt. She said she reached down and felt him, and one of the girls raised the front of her skirt and put her hand in her pants and then he did too. But that when she danced with him by herself, he never tried to feel her up or nothing, but he did tell her he'd like to get together sometime. I got a little excited hearing her tell me about feeling his dick, so I asked her how big he was. She said she couldn't really tell because one of the other girls had her hand on him too. But she knew he was pretty long. This was the first time she showed any interest in meeting with this man, even though the other couples had been trying to coax us into it for months. She asked me what I thought, I told her I would prefer meeting with couples, but it was up to her. She said she always wondered what it would be like with a black guy. and reminded me that I had been with black women ( before we were married) And that alot of times she was with a guy quite a bit smaller than me, and wished she had my bigger dick instead of the other lady getting it. Then she said the other girls had said he was great in bed, besides being well endowed. So after all she said, I told her I didn't care. Only thing we only knew each others names and had never exchanged numbers. So we would have to wait.
We didn't have to wait long. Next time we were with the other couple, they brought it up again. When we said we wouldn't mind meeting him, they called him that night, to see if he come come to their house. It turned out he was busy, but we talked to him and he agreed to meet us at a later date. I knew the man of the couple wanted to see my wife with the single guy, we said maybe it's better we meet alone for our first time, and never got any agruement.
Ok I didn't mean to make this so long, but wanted to let people know how our first threesome came about. When we meet with him, we meet him at a lounge. He went and got a room and came back and gave us a key. He said he'd go on to the room and we could wait a few minutes, not to look to ovious. Wife had a bag so we went to the car to get it. I just planned on walking her to the room then going back to the lounge and wait. I had told my wife I would feel out of place, and He might even feel uncomfortable. But when we got to the room, I gave my wife a kiss and said I'll see you later. He said I might as well stay. So he talked me into staying. My wife goes into the bathroom to put on a teddy. He starts removing his clothes. When he dropped his boxers, he seen me looking at his penis. It hung almost to his knees. He asked me if I was going to have any problem with this, meaning if I was jealous or not. I joked and said I wouldn't have a problem with it, but my wife might. Anyway I thought it was too late to change my mind now. I always wondered later what would have happened if I'd told him I didn't want him doing my wife. But that didn't happen. Anyway my wife returned, they got in bed and after a little kissing, and sucking on her nipples. He was on his stomach between her legs preforming oral on my wife. I couldn't see his penis and was under the impression, one that big would be limber. But after getting my wife hot, he raised up on his knees and asked her if she was ready for this. I had never seen one that big even in ���� movies, until a few years ago I seen a man that goes by __________. This guys dick was as big if not bigger, and just as hard. Anyway there are some big dicks around, but not that many, then finding one on a guy that knows how to use it is even rarer.
Anyway I enjoy you stories, and maybe some time I can write a story, and go into detail about my wifes encounter with this guy. I know I rambled on quite a while now, but haven't told half of it.
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05-19-2003, 10:03 AM #4
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:evil: Kelli & Jack
Way to go! Both of you wrote a great story and if that guy was so sceptical about size and all the other facts then frankly who cares!
His loss he is not getting loved by a group, not joining in some of the best recreational sex around, is his wife a little cool in the bedroom? Who cares anyway that is his baggage not yours.
You don’t need a thick skin all you need is to ignore sili little boys that are jealous of us adults having fun and sharing life's greatest joy and sport Sex!
So dish the dirt lets have some more stories I loved all of yours.
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05-26-2003, 02:26 PM #5
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I thought that was a great story when I first read it. I wondered about the penis size but assumed it was pretty much accurate. I am beginning to wonder how all the medical texts come up with 6 inches being the average male member size when I seem to be the only one who has one that size. Everyone else who mentions a size online seems to be 7 inches or much more. Maybe some of those 2-inchers are bringing down the curve.
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05-27-2003, 12:25 PM #6
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Well, this brings up the question... and maybe it's been answered elsewhere:
How do you measure penis length? Is it along the top? along the side? The underside? How do you account for curvature? What units?
How about volume displacement?
-J (Happy with his penis that, when erect, subtends 1.08 radians when viewed at a right angle from 10 meters away)
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This is probably for the women. But I find that for me girth matters more than length. I don't care if it's 4 inches long, as long as it's 8 inches around. Okay, maybe not not 8 inches. But you get the point. I find the men tend to "bottom out" very easily, especially in certain positions. Maybe it's just my body structure. But even if you have 9 inches in length, you are only getting about 6 into me.
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02-24-2004, 11:49 PM #8
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Kelli, what a well written letter regarding penis size and your experiences. I've always skipped over stories that talked about 12 inchers but now I'm going back to read yours because I now know they're true. My wife will enjoy reading them as well.
By the way, regarding Haulover, we think it's great. We need more legal beaches like it. However, it's not the only truly legal nude beach in America. In California there is actually a state park where it is designated as a nude beach. It's called Gray Whale Cove State Park near Pacifica, south of San Francisco.
Take care,
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05-23-2004, 07:05 AM #9
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Wow!!! We haven't been on the site in quite a while. We had no idea that this had garnered so much attention. Actually, we had gotten so turned off by the original insulting letter that we hadn't suBathmateitted anything since.
Thank you all for such positive responses. You have re-inspired us. Kelli is writing again, and after she has gotten something together for me to read and edit, you will have a new one to read. In the meantime, please contact us directly. We would love to meet some new friends. And, as we have mentioned before, we like it best when we are on vacation.
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kelly and jack : the main thing about your story is that everybody was happy and everything was done with such class. way to go !!! the truth of the matter is that: the big ones are out there, ask my wife, she can tell you a few good ones about it ! it has a lot to do with how it happens, how is done, i do love too see my partner getting a big chunk of meat like that .
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07-09-2004, 10:22 AM #11
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My Little Princess and I had the pleasure of meeting a couple while we were on a business trip last year. Really nice people, our age, professional, educared, and NORMAL! We were staying in a suite hotel so there was plenty of room to relax and enjoy ourselves as if at home. Long story short: he was just a hair over 10 inches. Now I am not exactly miniature myself but not quite that. We had a great time all together (so it seemed) but we eventually learned that this guy felt he was God's gift only because of his length! My Princess said that it was only partially enjoyable for her and NOT something that she wished to repeat. The other lady seemed to enjoy herself with me considerably, and so much so that when we finally retired for the night, he was alone in his bed. Next day, things seemed a little strained when we parted. A little later we learned that the couple split up. He refuses to answer any communications from us and has blocked our IM's. She is the exact opposite and we hope to see her again very soon.
Bottom line: He had the size, but had no idea how to use it. The goal is MUTUAL satisfaction and he missed that goal by miles. soapbox
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How do you measure penis length? Is it along the top? along the side? The underside? How do you account for curvature? What units?
Which ever gives you the longest measurement is the method you use!
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Which ever gives you the longest measurement is the method you use!
I tend to measure from knee to chin...
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Bottom line: He had the size, but had no idea how to use it. The goal is MUTUAL satisfaction and he missed that goal by miles. soapbox
This is something I Have found to be true on a regular basis. It seems in my experience that guys with average or shorter are actually much better in bed because they don't expect their length to do all the work.
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It may be safe to say that the measurement should be made from EAR TO EAR!!!!
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check this link out for some of the craziest size talk I have read in a long long time.
http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4635
here is some of the text its pretty long so click the link to read it all
I got this letter from Kelli & Jack, one of the many couple who have suBathmateitted several great stories to the Swinger Stories area. I decided to post it here (with their permission) rather than in the stories section itself (although I will be including a link in the stories section to this topic). I'm sure that they aren't the only authors who have recieved emails of this kind and I thought that posting this here would give others a chance to respond as well.
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Here is a little different story. Not sure that it fits, but I am sure that your other writers will enjoy the response because we all receive tons of great e-mails from most, and a few who just don't understand how comfortable swinging can be, or even how much it can do for an already healthy relationship
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Most of us who write these stories are sharing a part of our hearts and souls to share our adventures.
Please understand that I know I have to thicken my skin, but please understand that we don't get paid for what we write. I glow when someone sends a note saying how much they enjoyed the story. I'm stunned when they compliment my writing style. But I am also stunned by those who are in disbelief.
Swingers exist everywhere. Sensational stories come out of many of those encounters. I thought, and think, that I am doing a favor for those of you who enjoy reading my tales. And that favor has been repaid many times over by the kind and thoughtful responses.
We are in the middle of conversations with a few people nearby and from around the world (well Australia anyway) who may meet us on vacation to see what we can get up to. But if you think it is hard to fit schedules together for meetings with a couple or two around town, just try making it work when couples from 12,000 miles away try to meet – here, there, Or in between.
Now, please read the e-mails we got that made me need to respond, and then my response........it's not all vim and vinegar. But, it also is not a narrative on a great weekend we had that would qualify as a story I want to tell for the way our little sexual and/or sensual kismet took place. I do hope you publish it anyway.
It's about why what you read from me is the real stuff......names are changed, although I do leave some similarities that will tip off the people we have lost contact with and would love to find again. The details, locations, numbers of people, even the color of eyes, hair, skin, or sheets, clothes, or condoms are exactly what I remember ( and sometimes corrected after discussion with jack who acts as the editor while he checks facts and grammar). We've even cheated you, the reader, out of some juicy details, just cuz we just couldn't agree as to what happened or how it happened a particular time.
Anyway, if you can find enough sexy stuff in it, publish it. Maybe include the note to you too. Thanks again,
Kelli
I love the positive comments….but there are others as well………….
By Kelli in St Louis
This is what the reader wrote:
>Just read Kelly shocks Jack in Vegas. I'm not into swinging,and my wife is waaay not into it, but I love reading
>these stories. Only one thing-did you have to say that the guys cock was well over 12 >inches?That kinda make >the story sound fake.
My response was:
>sorry to hurt your ego, and………jack and I were both shocked, and impressed, as well, but the truth is, Scotts dick >was well over 12"…………probably just over 13", but certainly over 12" easilly. and it was both thick, and very hard >too.
>Kelli
Here is his reply to my reply.
>Hey, it had nothing to do with my ego. It wasn't my wife banging a guy with a giant one. My point was that it >made the story seem unreal,like the Penthouse Forum letters where everybody is 8,9,or 10 inches. If it really was >12 or better,than good for you. But how do you go back to your mans 6 >incher after that?
Now that was even easier to answer, so please read a little "stream of consciousness" rantings from "cute little, sweet little, soft spoken, me."
Love, dedication, and commitment.......that helps a lot......find it before you swing.
Attention. Caring. Acceptance of each other's desires.
Voyeurism.
Exhibitionism.
Experimentation.
That nagging wonder about whether really "big" penises truly exist. Ask for them exclusively in sexy chat rooms or in your profile and you will be flooded with guys and pictures of their "little/big guys". And, some of them might just turn out to be a semi-normal guy who you would consider meeting or meating.
The curiosity about the rumors that most dicks of greater proportion have a minor to often major problem with firmness The biggest I've seen was not very firm, but most of the others were........and we have seen quite a few more than we have played with because you just can't desire everybody or even have the time for those you do.
And then the curiosity ran to the multiple comments over the years from friends who had their first, or repeated, experiences with truly oversized dicks that hurt them either a little--some said that was good while others said that it was horrible and had to be ended early--some said it was horrible, they had to stop (and some were even out of commission for a day or two, while others adapted and had great fun…..some made rules about how far he was to thrust, others shifted to more oral or positions where they had more control over what parts and what strokes could work.
Jack was all for it. He was amazed at the size, especial since Scott was not a very big guy otherwise.
Jack also likes seeing me get so turned by on another guy with a different technique and/or different size, or a bi lady (with or without hubbies till we want them there) that I finally let loose and get so involved I really come at a whole different level.
So, Scott was my first real big cock, but I was "spoiled" as you would have us believe by your comments by both of my earliest boyfriends because they were both exactly 8 and a half inches.
My first was very thick. It was awkward, and a bit painful the first two or three times. I adapted to its size and the sex got great.
The second was much skinnier (he even apologized for its small size despite its length !) but it was my favorite because I could really feel exactly where it was bottoming out, and he loved to shift his hips every third or forth thurst from a different angle (advantage -- skinny dicks).
I've had six inchers, seven's, and a even a couple of tens, over the years.
But, I've also had a couple of five's, four's, and there was one guy in my long distant past who I dated for six months, active sexually after 1.5 of those months. He has a buff body. A nice guy. One of the most romantic I ever met. His penis, fully erect (harder than any before, or after -- heck, it is actually harder than some toys I have) is two and three quarters of an inch long. Erect.....and then it almost entirely withdrew into his ball sac and pelvis when soft.
That is measured with the ruler pushed hard into his pelvis, measuring along the top. 2.75" with a head that measures 1.75" across and a shaft about .75" accross Someone else can figure out the circumference (is it PI R squared?). But that is small. Still, he, and it, were good. I had to adapt, but my grip with my keegle muscles got great.
Jack isn't hung like these guys, but he finds me quite tight with his dick (6 when just barely hard, 7+ when really turned on), tongue (shorter) and fingers (various lengths, and they come in sets {and sometimes, they make me cum in sets too). Remember, most of our sexlife is just the two of us at home. In love, and very able to make true love just with each other. We are also quite able to then choose to be kinkier and more inventive when we feel like it.
It's just the rare occasion that the time and desire for adding a body or two to our fun gets to the top of our to-do list.
And then Jack feels he is giving me some size and position from the other guys that he will never be able to give me himself.
He also relishes my taste for bisexual fun. It's always giggly fun, it always get us all off real good (even if he only get to beat off sometimes). And at times, it gets him a threesome or more with beautiful young ladies who are truly BI and interested in sex with both parts of a couple (sometimes by herself, sometimes with hubby, and one time, with two of her girlfriends in tow).
And then there are the couples.
First timers. Both the dedicated and those scared out their skin. This can be the very best, but that is only if it isn't the worst.
Those couples who started the night pissed off at each other, but came to your meeting anyway. Good luck with these.
Or our dream couples who just naturally made us feel comfortable. Quite a few of these have easily made up for having to wade through the others.
The few other lovers we've gotten together with over the years seem to agree that big dicks, don't stretch you out for long. The vagina is quite elastic. The more you squeeze the stronger your muscles get. The stronger you get those keegles, the tighter everyone will feel you are.
I had a baby, and was quite loose for more than six months. With keegle exercises, I am sure I am tighter now than after high school.
We like to swing a little, usually, two or three time a year. Usually on vacation. We try to meet a new friend or two. BI ladies alone are the dream, but we are realists, and couples with BI females are easier to find. And those slightly more rare times come along when we just want a studlike, yet gentlemanly, guy to get some serious fucking in.
There is a lot to be said about " it's not the size, its the ability".
But there is still a lot to be said for sheer size too.
Big boobs catch the eye, but most people we have really talked heart to heart to about it find that a semi-small to medium, well formed, natural breast, seems to have more sensitivity, and is considerably easier to delicately caress.
Big dicks can provide the same problems. And others.
And, smaller dicks often get invited into places that big dicks just aren't as welcome. HHydromaxm?
I hope this exposure to my observations on the human penis has allowed you to understand that I wasn't sensationalizing when I described our friend's dick.
We prefer to meet couples, but have loved most of our threesome attempts as well. BI females of South Florida, please get in touch, with or without a significant other. Our vacation is coming up. And we will have the time to really make it comfortable for a BI-curious lady to have her first experience be a dream like mine was.
May 2 through 12 at Haulover Beach. The only legal nude beach in America which is located at the very farthest north part of Miami County, FL.
Please get in touch immediately, the computer isn't going with us so we will have to make contact this week. Or on the nude beach section at Haulover.
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05-09-2003, 04:00 PM #2
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We believe you, Kelli. Of the five couples we've played with, one guy claimed 9.5 inches (Mrs. Alura believed him) and another was, in Mrs. Alura's opinion, bigger, though not much. Unfortunately, we chose not to play with both couples after the first time, but it had nothing to do with the size of their cocks. We like your stories.
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05-17-2003, 08:45 AM #3
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Kelli and Jack, I had always heard stories, about 12" dicks, and I myself had my doubts. After swinging for a couple of years, my wife said my 7.5-8" was bigger than any of the men she had encountered, of the 6-8 couples we had been with. Then we meet a couple we both liked, my wife and the other lady got along good. They held small parties at there home, usually about 10 couples. It was easy for us to addend their parties, because it was only an hour drive to their home as compaired to a 2-3 hour drive to a club in the city. After a few parties we had become a part of their circle of friends, and felt comfortable with all the other couples. Many times we heard them talk about a black man that most of the other couples had meet. They told my wife she would have to meet him.
Later at a party at the club they introduced him to us. We had never done anything but couple/couple, so we never thought about meeting with a single male. He set with our group and we talked to him a few times and he was always nice and polite. Later when we was alone, with the other couple they asked us what we thought of him, and if we would like to get together with him. We just said we hadn't thought about it. The lady told my wife she should try him, that he was good in bed.
A month passed and we were at the club, and a couple of the ladies were feeling mischevious. They were with the man I mentioned, and came over to the table and told my wife to come with them. They all went on the dance floor. They danced in a circle with my wife facing the man. When the dance was over they came back to the table all giggling like school girls. One of the ladies joked and told me I better keep my eyes on my wife. This was not an on premise club, but the manager was pretty lenient as long as things didn't go too far. So I knew they had showed his penis to my wife. Later that night my wife danced with him again by herself. On the way home she told me about the other girls taking his dick out of his pants, and said she could feel it between her legs below her shirt. She said she reached down and felt him, and one of the girls raised the front of her skirt and put her hand in her pants and then he did too. But that when she danced with him by herself, he never tried to feel her up or nothing, but he did tell her he'd like to get together sometime. I got a little excited hearing her tell me about feeling his dick, so I asked her how big he was. She said she couldn't really tell because one of the other girls had her hand on him too. But she knew he was pretty long. This was the first time she showed any interest in meeting with this man, even though the other couples had been trying to coax us into it for months. She asked me what I thought, I told her I would prefer meeting with couples, but it was up to her. She said she always wondered what it would be like with a black guy. and reminded me that I had been with black women ( before we were married) And that alot of times she was with a guy quite a bit smaller than me, and wished she had my bigger dick instead of the other lady getting it. Then she said the other girls had said he was great in bed, besides being well endowed. So after all she said, I told her I didn't care. Only thing we only knew each others names and had never exchanged numbers. So we would have to wait.
We didn't have to wait long. Next time we were with the other couple, they brought it up again. When we said we wouldn't mind meeting him, they called him that night, to see if he come come to their house. It turned out he was busy, but we talked to him and he agreed to meet us at a later date. I knew the man of the couple wanted to see my wife with the single guy, we said maybe it's better we meet alone for our first time, and never got any agruement.
Ok I didn't mean to make this so long, but wanted to let people know how our first threesome came about. When we meet with him, we meet him at a lounge. He went and got a room and came back and gave us a key. He said he'd go on to the room and we could wait a few minutes, not to look to ovious. Wife had a bag so we went to the car to get it. I just planned on walking her to the room then going back to the lounge and wait. I had told my wife I would feel out of place, and He might even feel uncomfortable. But when we got to the room, I gave my wife a kiss and said I'll see you later. He said I might as well stay. So he talked me into staying. My wife goes into the bathroom to put on a teddy. He starts removing his clothes. When he dropped his boxers, he seen me looking at his penis. It hung almost to his knees. He asked me if I was going to have any problem with this, meaning if I was jealous or not. I joked and said I wouldn't have a problem with it, but my wife might. Anyway I thought it was too late to change my mind now. I always wondered later what would have happened if I'd told him I didn't want him doing my wife. But that didn't happen. Anyway my wife returned, they got in bed and after a little kissing, and sucking on her nipples. He was on his stomach between her legs preforming oral on my wife. I couldn't see his penis and was under the impression, one that big would be limber. But after getting my wife hot, he raised up on his knees and asked her if she was ready for this. I had never seen one that big even in ���� movies, until a few years ago I seen a man that goes by __________. This guys dick was as big if not bigger, and just as hard. Anyway there are some big dicks around, but not that many, then finding one on a guy that knows how to use it is even rarer.
Anyway I enjoy you stories, and maybe some time I can write a story, and go into detail about my wifes encounter with this guy. I know I rambled on quite a while now, but haven't told half of it.
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05-19-2003, 10:03 AM #4
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:evil: Kelli & Jack
Way to go! Both of you wrote a great story and if that guy was so sceptical about size and all the other facts then frankly who cares!
His loss he is not getting loved by a group, not joining in some of the best recreational sex around, is his wife a little cool in the bedroom? Who cares anyway that is his baggage not yours.
You don’t need a thick skin all you need is to ignore sili little boys that are jealous of us adults having fun and sharing life's greatest joy and sport Sex!
So dish the dirt lets have some more stories I loved all of yours.
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05-26-2003, 02:26 PM #5
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I thought that was a great story when I first read it. I wondered about the penis size but assumed it was pretty much accurate. I am beginning to wonder how all the medical texts come up with 6 inches being the average male member size when I seem to be the only one who has one that size. Everyone else who mentions a size online seems to be 7 inches or much more. Maybe some of those 2-inchers are bringing down the curve.
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05-27-2003, 12:25 PM #6
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Well, this brings up the question... and maybe it's been answered elsewhere:
How do you measure penis length? Is it along the top? along the side? The underside? How do you account for curvature? What units?
How about volume displacement?
-J (Happy with his penis that, when erect, subtends 1.08 radians when viewed at a right angle from 10 meters away)
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05-27-2003, 02:03 PM #7
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This is probably for the women. But I find that for me girth matters more than length. I don't care if it's 4 inches long, as long as it's 8 inches around. Okay, maybe not not 8 inches. But you get the point. I find the men tend to "bottom out" very easily, especially in certain positions. Maybe it's just my body structure. But even if you have 9 inches in length, you are only getting about 6 into me.
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02-24-2004, 11:49 PM #8
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Kelli, what a well written letter regarding penis size and your experiences. I've always skipped over stories that talked about 12 inchers but now I'm going back to read yours because I now know they're true. My wife will enjoy reading them as well.
By the way, regarding Haulover, we think it's great. We need more legal beaches like it. However, it's not the only truly legal nude beach in America. In California there is actually a state park where it is designated as a nude beach. It's called Gray Whale Cove State Park near Pacifica, south of San Francisco.
Take care,
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05-23-2004, 07:05 AM #9
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Wow!!! We haven't been on the site in quite a while. We had no idea that this had garnered so much attention. Actually, we had gotten so turned off by the original insulting letter that we hadn't suBathmateitted anything since.
Thank you all for such positive responses. You have re-inspired us. Kelli is writing again, and after she has gotten something together for me to read and edit, you will have a new one to read. In the meantime, please contact us directly. We would love to meet some new friends. And, as we have mentioned before, we like it best when we are on vacation.
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kelly and jack : the main thing about your story is that everybody was happy and everything was done with such class. way to go !!! the truth of the matter is that: the big ones are out there, ask my wife, she can tell you a few good ones about it ! it has a lot to do with how it happens, how is done, i do love too see my partner getting a big chunk of meat like that .
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07-09-2004, 10:22 AM #11
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My Little Princess and I had the pleasure of meeting a couple while we were on a business trip last year. Really nice people, our age, professional, educared, and NORMAL! We were staying in a suite hotel so there was plenty of room to relax and enjoy ourselves as if at home. Long story short: he was just a hair over 10 inches. Now I am not exactly miniature myself but not quite that. We had a great time all together (so it seemed) but we eventually learned that this guy felt he was God's gift only because of his length! My Princess said that it was only partially enjoyable for her and NOT something that she wished to repeat. The other lady seemed to enjoy herself with me considerably, and so much so that when we finally retired for the night, he was alone in his bed. Next day, things seemed a little strained when we parted. A little later we learned that the couple split up. He refuses to answer any communications from us and has blocked our IM's. She is the exact opposite and we hope to see her again very soon.
Bottom line: He had the size, but had no idea how to use it. The goal is MUTUAL satisfaction and he missed that goal by miles. soapbox
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07-09-2004, 01:11 PM #12
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Quote:
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How do you measure penis length? Is it along the top? along the side? The underside? How do you account for curvature? What units?
Which ever gives you the longest measurement is the method you use!
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Which ever gives you the longest measurement is the method you use!
I tend to measure from knee to chin...
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07-09-2004, 01:32 PM #14
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Bottom line: He had the size, but had no idea how to use it. The goal is MUTUAL satisfaction and he missed that goal by miles. soapbox
This is something I Have found to be true on a regular basis. It seems in my experience that guys with average or shorter are actually much better in bed because they don't expect their length to do all the work.
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07-09-2004, 01:46 PM #15
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It may be safe to say that the measurement should be made from EAR TO EAR!!!!
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