At 7.7 x 5.2, is the Hercules the one to buy?

I contacted Bathmate about sizes and they told that the X-40 is 7.5 in length. But in his video, DLD says it fits up to a 8.5 inch penis.
So there seems to be a slight contradiction there.
This considered and based on my size, is the X-40 the right fit for me then (i want to grow further in length at least to 8.2 and girth) or should I try a X40 or X40?
This will be my first experience with a Bathmate/pump.
Thanks for the input

I'd get the X40. I was maxing out girth too quickly in the X-40 at about your size.

Definitely dont get the X-40 at that size. Would be a waste. X40 is easier to use as the girth on the x40 is a good bit larger and the nuts can more easily get pulled into the tube. Not fun. I am a bit over 6in in girth and still use the x40 even though I should be using the x40 but dont likeit as much for that reason. I would say you have a bit of room left to grow in the x40 but If you are intending on only buying one pump I would agree w Rokit and say thex40. Just understand the learning curve is a bit harder on that one.

If you have the money, start with the X-40. You will max it out quickly, but also will gain permanent girth quickly. From that point, you can decide whether you are big enough to move onto x40 or x40. I started with Herc at 5.5" girth and shot to 5.75" girth in 2 months, but then I could not surpass 5.75" permanent girth. I am probably going to get a penomet or x40 for my next pump, as I own the X-40, but the X-40 is ridiculously too big. I could fit my arm in that thing.

The reason a small pump is good is because the closer your dick is to the plastic, the better expansion and suction you get, thus the quicker your permanent gains are.
On the other hand, each pump has a limit to how much girth you can gain. I believe the Herc is about 6.4" max. I was able to get 6" of girth from it, but that would go away in a day or two and go back down to 5.75". Also, the base is way too small.

So what I am saying is if you have the cash and/or want to shoot up to 5.75" fairly quickly, get the Herc. Beware - you may get very bad discoloration, as I did, because the small base cuts off skin circulation, causing discoloration from that point up. I'd say be safe and get the x40 - never used one but I think they fixed the small base problem with that pump.

If you go with the Herc so you can get those quick gains, get a sleeve with it. You may have to find it aftermarket, but they have links to it in this forum. Search "X-40 sleeve"

Thanks for the replies so far! My girth being only at 5.15/5.2 seems fine in relation to the supposed 6" girth fit of the X-40. My concern is mostly with length, since i do want to get bigger (and expect to do so soon) and just wouldn't want to find myself in the situation of buying a pump that right off the bat is small if that's the case. MikeShlort, i'd pay for a X-40 if i could shoot up to 5.75 girth fairly easier, even if i had to switch to another pump afterwards. But of course it'd be best to work with a pump that could hold a dick of a size of up to 8.3 x 6, if there is such a pump.
Is the size difference that the X40 provides worth it? I'm only a bit concerned with negative reviews i read, regarding faulty valves and poor suction on the X40.
One thing is certain: I do not want to get any (if possible) and want to avoid at all costs major discoloration.

You will fit in any of them. The herc and x40 are the same length roughly 8.5 inches and only vary in the girth. The x40 is a couple inches longer at roughly 10.5 inches of length that can be attained.
I think they have fixed the valves and the suction issue as mine is great and most of the complaints I believe are from older posts/users.
Discoloration does happen but goes away weeks or months after you stop using the Bathmate. The Penomet does cause less discoloration (still causes some)and is a similar size to the X40. I prefer the Bathmates but others prefer the Penomet.

First off, is the 7.7" NBPenis EnlargementL or BPenis EnlargementL? I was around 7.7 BPenis EnlargementL when I used the Herc, 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL. Took awhile to max out length wise. If you are 7.7" NBPenis EnlargementL you''' probably want to go with the penomet. The harder you pump, the shorter the pump gets so you will be hitting the top fairly quickly with the herc if you're 7.7" NBPenis EnlargementL. Keep in mind that once you have no more room to go up, you can't pump more and get that expansion.

It would be nice if in your case they had a longer pump with a smaller girth.

I can't say anything about the x40 and x40; I just own the Herc and X-40.

You could always go with an air pump. You can find literally any size tube and they are fairly cheap. I have not used air pumped though so i can't say the difference between the hydropump. I can say that the hydropumps are amazing and feel great (just take it slow at first).

As far as discolouration, the reason I got discolouration is because the base of the Herc was too small and it would pinch off my base. All of my dick from the part that pinched off and up turned red. It was probably discoloured for a good 8 months but returned to very close to normal. A chick would not be able to tell unless she sat there under a good light examining my pecker. Which would be sweet.

I imagine they came out with the x40 and x40 because of assholes like myself criticizing them for making an amazing pump with one flaw - the base is narrowest when it should be largest, because most men are largest at their base. I suspect they made a more rigid base gaiter, which fixes the problem of pinching off the base, but in turn gives less suction because it is more rigid and harder to pump. Can't win, eh?

I really recommend with your girth that you look for a X-40 girth-sized pump. It will get you up there quickly. But you will have to stop using it once you gain 0.4". Oh, and 0.4" of girth is a ridiculous difference. I gained 0.25" of girth and my cock went from underwhelming to pussy splitter. Still got another .5" to go

If you have the cash, you could always just go ahead and get the x40 or the penomet... See how big they are. You will eventually need one of the two anyways (they are roughly the same circumference). But keep in mind that you are best off with a Herc (max girth ~6.4")

Quick little story about Herc.... I was 5.5" when I started using it. I'd do my routine (found on page 1 of my progress thread) and then tie off with a bathrobe cord. A few times I'd be at 7.5" girth after the session, and it lasted all night until I untied in the morning. It would start to go down gradually but I'd have a fat cock most of the day. That's 2" of temporary girth gained. Cock looked fucking hilarious. I couldn't wrap my hands around it. So it pays off to have a pump that is only about 1" larger than your max girth. (Don't recommend you tie off your cock for more than a half hr if you don't know what you're doing and if you don't monitor it. It worked for me because I wake up like 3 times through the night so I could always check on it.)

I am also contemplating whether to get the x40 or penomet. On 1 hand, Bathmate is a killer product and I love their old models, but penomet looks pretty good and they just came out with the 3.0 version. Not sure how well the new wave of Bathmates will stack up against their old models. But I'm pretty sure either way it's less about the pump and more about the effort you put in.

It took me roughly 1 hr each night for 2.5 months straight, every night to achieve 0.25" of permanent girth gains. Started off with shorter, less intense sessions but by the end it was a good hour. Even the X-40 gave me some sick base girth expansion. Just way too big for me at this point. That's the pump you want when you're like 6.5" permanent girth.

Dry pumping is far less effective. Used to do it until I bought a Bathmate and havent dry pumped since. Definitely go hydro

jakb;556584 said:

You will fit in any of them. The herc and x40 are the same length roughly 8.5 inches and only vary in the girth. The x40 is a couple inches longer at roughly 10.5 inches of length that can be attained.
I think they have fixed the valves and the suction issue as mine is great and most of the complaints I believe are from older posts/users.
Discoloration does happen but goes away weeks or months after you stop using the Bathmate. The Penomet does cause less discoloration (still causes some)and is a similar size to the X40. I prefer the Bathmates but others prefer the Penomet.

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Hey Jakb, before in mentioned that no way i should get the X-40. But you say that i can fit in it. So could i get it? Will i have a better pump and a better fit with the X40? I do want to boost my girth fast and improve on my length still, with the least discoloration as possible (which is what we all want, right? )

You have a good bit of girth that can be gained in the Herc still. During these posts I have thought about and looked at your options. I was when I was posting them thinking that the Herc was shorter in length than the X40. Since it is not then you would do well in the Herc as well. IMO the X40 is beyond you girth wise and will suck in your testes which wont allow for you to actually get a good pump and leads to frustration. Im now roughly 6" in girth non pump and still get my tests sucked in the X40. Frustrating as all get out because I girth out of the x40 after one set.
Mike has also asked an important question. Is your measurement BP or NBP? If BP then you can definitely do the Herc. If NBP then you will have to go with a longer X40 or Penomet.

I have the Herc, X40, X40 and Penomet. And 3 dry pumps of different sizes
My order of favorite to least favorite is
Herc(the pump feels nice and somehow feels different than the x40 by a little bit- this pump actually feels like you are gaining length in it. Only pump I personally have ever had with that feeling.

A VERY close 2nd is the X40- The pull is still as intense as you could want it, just a bit different. Feels like the pull is a bit more on the expansion on less on the length pull

3rd is the Penomet. Penomet is still a great product with outstanding customer service and alot of guys love them but the pull to me feels softer and I like the aggressive pull of the Bathmates

Distant 4th is the X40- I have yet to be able to successfully use it without my nuts wanting to join the party.

The Dry pumps are collecting dust. Dont use them at all now that the Hydros are being used

Hope this helps

Jakb:

Is the x40 a bigger circumference than X-40? If so, by how much? (Let's use a rough estimate and say Herc is 6.4" in circumference).

Also, is the base problem fixed in the x40? In other words, does the base become the smallest part on the pump when pumping and cuts off skin circulation and leaves those rings on base of cock or did they fix that?




I'm 5.75" girth. I have used X-40 successfully, but also had a hard time keeping my nuts "out of the party". I am not sure whether I want x40, x40 or penomet.

I feel the aggressive pressure of the Herc is what led to my gains so I'm kind of wary of getting the penomet now that you say it is a weaker suction.

I was thinking x40 vs. penomet but now I am wary of x40 now that you say you are 6" girth and can't get a good session out of it.

Mike
Just measured the inside circumferences. These measurements are without pump sleeves which of course would make the opening smaller.
The X40 and X40 measurements were taken with the comfort pad on
The herc as you say is roughly 6.4
The x40 is roughly 6.75
The x40 is roughly 8
The penomet is just shy of 7.75

If you are decent at using the X-40 then I would venture to guess you could use the x40 w ease. The thing about the measurements is that they dont include the sleeve for the gaiters and cock ring if you wear one. These of course makes the openings smaller. I would recommend an experienced pumper to wear a cock ring in the tube. Helps maintain erection and expansion taking it out of the tube and I believe cuts down on fluid a bit(my personal experience).

Since you are just shy of 6 you will girth out of the 30 decently soon. But If your funding allows I would definitely say get the 30 and build up to the 40 or by that time maybe skip the 40 and go for the X-40. If not the 40 may be your best bet. I really wish there was a size between the 30 and 40 as A 1.25inch difference is significant for pumps.

I have the premium package on the Penomet and currently cant get any of the gaiters to match the aggressiveness of the herc or x40. Some guys claim they get an aggressive suction from the penomet also but I truly dont understand what they would be doing differently as I cant achieve the same even using the wine vac pump on both. The penomet definitely doesnt have AS much fluid build up or discoloration though. It still has some just not as much. Even though the penomet and Bathmates look similar they really dont feel the same. Unfortunately it is difficult to explain the differences in feel.

The base opening on the 30 and 40 eyeballs to be the same size as the tube or the base may be a mm or so bigger.
Hope this helps

I'm 7.7 BPenis EnlargementL, so i guess i can fit fine in the X-40 then...
I was about to buy the X40. So which is better for gains, Herc or
X40?
And do either of them causes less discoloration then the other, less base rings, etc? I read X40 has a pad that supposedly helps lessen this, is this a good value?

You will fit in both.
I dont notice a discoloration difference between the x40 and the herc. The rings in the gaiters potentially can give you base rings. Really just depends on your base girth. Im actually not sure if you are talking about penis gaiter bites or the pressure the pump puts at your base causing rings. In either case the x40 does it less due to the built in comfort pad and the wider opening.

I personally would advertise that you want to buy a herc in the discount section here and buy one from someone for about $50. Guys girth out of them quickly and sell the herc the most often there. I bought my herc and x40 that way. If you buy one online then I personally would still do the x40 as it has a bit more girth room. The valve on it does have a bit of a learning curve and the hercs valve is easier to use but it doesnt take long to learn the x40s valve and that shouldnt sway your decision either way.

jakb you are a wealth of knowledge, thanks

Thanks y'all. Im going with the X40, and hopefully will be somewhere near 5.75 by end of the year.

Jakb I dont have a x40, but i have read that if you turn the chamfered side of the gaitor towards you it will eliminate the ball suction. Have you tried this?

jcarrier;557669 said:

Thanks y'all. Im going with the X40, and hopefully will be somewhere near 5.75 by end of the year.

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I have the two routines I used to get 0.25" permanent girth in 2.5 months on page 1 of my progress thread.

MikeShlort;557695 said:

I have the two routines I used to get 0.25" permanent girth in 2.5 months on page 1 of my progress thread.

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Cool. I have some privacy issues, so i will try to find the best way to add the Bathmate to my routine without adding much more time.

ManOfSteel83;557672 said:

Jakb I dont have a x40, but i have read that if you turn the chamfered side of the gaitor towards you it will eliminate the ball suction. Have you tried this?

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Manofsteel. I have tried both directions. Currently the x40 is my nemesis and my nuts shiver just looking at it. Going to wait til I girth out the Penomet and give it another go in a couple weeks. Thank you for the advice and I will remember it when I try it next as I didnt know which direction was better for that.