which is harder to gain? length or girth?

[Django]

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[bIgjOe]

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Girth IMO.

 

[Juggers]

Girth is harder for me to gain and probably for a lot of ppl.

 

[bIgjOe]

Even if girth comes faster for some I think it still just plain takes more effort to gain girth. I seldom come away from a manual length session with sore hands.

 

[Pandora]

Even if girth comes faster for some I think it still just plain takes more effort to gain girth. I seldom come away from a manual length session with sore hands.

so what happens to your hands when u do a girth session then

 

[stillwantmore]

I'll put in my vote from personal experience for length. I have had to work 10X harder for it than for girth. No exagerating there. When I was hanging, and made my last 1/4" length gain, I was hanging a total of 4 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week. For my last 1/4" girth gain I clamped a total of 45-60 minutes a day 5 or 6 days a week.

 

[DLD]

I'll put in my vote from personal experience for length. I have had to work 10X harder for it than for girth. No exagerating there. When I was hanging, and made my last 1/4" length gain, I was hanging a total of 4 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week. For my last 1/4" girth gain I clamped a total of 45-60 minutes a day 5 or 6 days a week.

Me too. I think that since we are training flaccid for length it is much easier to gain since there is little mental energy needed to stretch. Girth takes a bit more mental focus and this makes it harder for me to gain. Using phase 5 girth would have been my salvation but I developed that late in my career.

 

[thefranchise]

Speaking on this. Are there just some dicks unable to gain girth? Im at 5.0 girth right now. Last year I tryed hitting girth for a long ass time and just nothing did it. Clamped would get up to 5.5 in girth but nothing. So i took a break for a few months and started back up in feburary. I decided I needed t go for MAXIMUM expansion as DLD said. So Instead of one clamp id use two and push as hard as i could. My sessions started out would get up to 5 5/8, then after a month or so i could get it up to 5.75 . Now a couple weeks ago I had to take a break, casue my dick was like mush, too much adult entertainment so I was having a harder time keeping it up. So I took a week off. Started back up recently adn every gain i had was lost. Its hard to even get to 5 5/8ths now. I seemed to have added 1/8th to my normal erections thats gone now. Everyhting is gone and its like im back to square one. I put in SOOOOOOO much time and hard effort over the past year and a half trying to gain girth, and nothing to show for it. All I have is a penis that half works, becuase I have venious leakage or something now. Should I just stop?

 

[bigsack]

I agree with DLD in that girth takes more active focus than length in many ways b/c girth means controlling your erection. I still spent many, many hours pulling and hanging for length, so that wasn't easy either. I got a quick 1/2" length gain from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], but after that it was a lot more time and effort. Overall I'd have to say girth has given me the most trouble b/c there was no "newbie gain" girth for me.

I think it all comes down to how hard you're willing to work. If A doesn't work, try B. Manual stretching stopped working for me so I did hanging. Jelqs and Ulis stopped working, so I started clamping. You shouldn't quit until you give an honest approach at every technique of Penis Enlargement.

 

[DLD]

Speaking on this. Are there just some dicks unable to gain girth? Im at 5.0 girth right now. Last year I tryed hitting girth for a long ass time and just nothing did it. Clamped would get up to 5.5 in girth but nothing. So i took a break for a few months and started back up in feburary. I decided I needed t go for MAXIMUM expansion as DLD said. So Instead of one clamp id use two and push as hard as i could. My sessions started out would get up to 5 5/8, then after a month or so i could get it up to 5.75 . Now a couple weeks ago I had to take a break, casue my dick was like mush, too much adult entertainment so I was having a harder time keeping it up. So I took a week off. Started back up recently adn every gain i had was lost. Its hard to even get to 5 5/8ths now. I seemed to have added 1/8th to my normal erections thats gone now. Everyhting is gone and its like im back to square one. I put in SOOOOOOO much time and hard effort over the past year and a half trying to gain girth, and nothing to show for it. All I have is a penis that half works, becuase I have venious leakage or something now. Should I just stop?

Not at all, the expansion will take longer for some guys to keep but the fact remain, if you push your tissue beyond it's limits it has no choice but to remain deformed permanently eventually. I guess the point I am trying to make can best be exemplified by ear augmentation through larger jewelry. With each increase, over time, the tissue ever expands. The penis has much in common with this as there are no bones present. This means we are dealing strictly with skin and tissue which is, by most standards, easy to augment. I am surprised balloon expansion has not been suggested by the phalioplasy surgeons yet.

 

[More Meat]

Not at all, the expansion will take longer for some guys to keep but the fact remain, if you push your tissue beyond it's limits it has no choice but to remain deformed permanently eventually. I guess the point I am trying to make can best be exemplified by ear augmentation through larger jewelry. With each increase, over time, the tissue ever expands. The penis has much in common with this as there are no bones present. This means we are dealing strictly with skin and tissue which is, by most standards, easy to augment. I am surprised balloon expansion has not been suggested by the phalioplasy surgeons yet.

Another example would be those African tribal chicks with the rings around there necks to make them longer over time.

 

[TomdW]

Another example would be those African tribal chicks with the rings around there necks to make them longer over time.

Remember though that the neck has bones in it as well as the oesophagus, etc, not to mention the plain fact that there is a load more tissue to stretch in the neck. For somebody to think that the neck can be stretched but not the penis they would have to be insane.

Also legs, or any limb for that matter, can be lengthened by repeatedly breaking the bones and pulling them apart by a small apart then allowing them to heal in the extended state.

It always comes back to the same thing for me. With dedication and consistency the penis can be made much bigger in every way.

 

[jkisineffect]

GIRTH why? cause some people have a hard time getting erections
and therefore cant jelq or clamp etc

now any one can stretch and gain something

 

[Juggers]

girth work is kinda hard but fun...Im doing girth right now and wow, I gain over a quarter of an inch in girth when clamped (with my hands)...and boy oh boy I wish you guys can see what I can do with this sock I just figured out something sweet....

 

[prince Albert]

I think its comes down to finding the right exercises for each individual,what gives gains for one person might do nothing for the next,once you find the right exercises for you then gains will come be it length or girth.

 

[ocd]

Length is unbelievable for me.

Girth comes consistently and now is to the point where my cock is fatter than it is long. I noticed my most noticeable gains about a month after I switched to early morning (as soon as I wake up) jelq sessions...the cock just naturally responds better to mornings.

But the kicker is I got tennis elbow in both elbows from doing excessive Uli's is the only thing I can figure so my jelq sessions are down to about 15 min per day, roughly. And no Uli's for a while but man do they work.

As a result of my elbow pain I gave up on length until about two weeks ago and started hanging again. This time I'm gonna go straight up and work exclusively on the tunica. My second session showed an eighth gain in BPSF so we'll just see...it's up and over the shower curtain rod with 15 lbs and a magazine to read for the next 6 months.

 

[goinfor11x7]

For me it's length. I'm still gaining in girth, but my length gains seem stalled.

 

[nystrongstroke2]

i think its diffrent for everyone because its been harder for me to gain in length but easy as hell to change my girth up.What i did for girth was dry jelques 1000 of em real slow and kegal while doin em.I would also say drink more than 8 glasses of water a day--try to get down a lil over a gallon.Do jumpin jacks-or skip around around the house to fetch things--it may sound weird but jumping jacks--skippin all help produce better circulation which helps produce better blood flow to peeny wolly.

 

[goinfor11x7]

I think its comes down to finding the right exercises for each individual,what gives gains for one person might do nothing for the next,once you find the right exercises for you then gains will come be it length or girth.

You're right on target, P.A.

 

[coolbreeze]

Another example would be those African tribal chicks with the rings around there necks to make them longer over time.

being devils advocate....is comparing these tissues accurate? The penis is much more of a dynamic organ compared to the ear, and I dont see how one could function with balloons implanted in their penis as they do for skin grafts. Its totally different

Also - those tribes with rings are not African, they are in asia I beleive and the neck does not get longer...the collar bones become deformed and with use they cannot keep their own heads up without those rings on. Not very functional.

 

[millionman]

Over my Penis Enlargement career I have found length to be the most difficult for me to gain. For me it's honestly been a question of working enough on length vs. girth. It seems to be a bit easier for me to gain girth than length so I tend to lean more to doing girth work because it is more efficient. Here lately though I have noticed my length increasing fairly steadliy and quickly because of pumping and jelqing for 2-3 sets everyday. That varies though as sometimes I am unable to have a sessoin and I'll take the day off instead of forcing the time issue. This seems to help with growth, so it could be that we don't allow ourselves enough rest in both areas that we don't see gains like we want.

I've been reading a bit over at T's place about gentle tension for a prolonged period of time and then an increase of force being a possible key to growth. With the way a pump works at low Hg this would be the low tension over a period of time, and the jelqing would represent the increase in pressure needed to expan the tissues in all areas. This would also work with hanging and then Penis Enlargement weights or any [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

 

[More Meat]

being devils advocate....is comparing these tissues accurate? The penis is much more of a dynamic organ compared to the ear, and I dont see how one could function with balloons implanted in their penis as they do for skin grafts. Its totally different

Also - those tribes with rings are not African, they are in asia I beleive and the neck does not get longer...the collar bones become deformed and with use they cannot keep their own heads up without those rings on. Not very functional.

Firstly, you are wrong about where this is practiced- it is an african tradition, not asian. Next, the necks of these woman do actually get longer over time, and though no its not very functional, this is a part of their culture and makes them more attractive to the men there. Also, I wasn't saying that it was the exact same thing- obviously your dick is different from your neck- or your ear- but the comparison was between the way tissues can be augmented through certain processes. I thought that people would be smart enough to see that connection, but apparently I was wrong. I'll try to spell everything out in the future and not use too many big words

 

[Juggers]

This brings me to a question I thought about.......is working length and girth in the same session counter-productive?

 

[goinfor11x7]

It hasn't been counterproductive for me, at least during the first year or two of P.E. Now that I'm into my third year, and doing strictly bundled stretches, I should have an answer to your question by the end of my third year--come October.

 

[Pandora]

 

[goinfor11x7]

Pandora,

Did you pull her out of your box?


Shit!! Does she have some kind of pump hidden in her dress?

Is this how you're going to send me to bed?

:zzboner:





:bouncings



:mrgrin:





Aoooooooooooo!!!!

 

[millionman]

Pandora, now you must tell us all who that is.....I'm all ears.

 

[Juggers]

Its funny how he just totally threw the subject off track with that...shows our attention span....lol...

 

[Pandora]

yeah sorry but i could not help myself i dont know who it is :s but i think there is a pump there ? on the floor in the background

 

[icecam]

very sexy lady there

anywho:

what i have found harder to gain for me is girth i gain my girth of 5.0 and have been stuck there for about a few months my length is increasing lovely. i havent measured for a while yet and i can nearly get 3hands on my cock. around 2 and a half hands it is at

i have gained 1.2 el and .5 eg in 8months got another 4 months left to i hit a year i hope i gain at least half of my previous gains. which should bring me to very close to my goal. 7.8 x 5.25

i have added clamping into my schedule now. looks like this

am wake up call if i have a morning wood i would masterbate and edge then clamp 2 10min sessions.

pm after a shower warm up i would stretch(30mins) and wet jelq(20mins)

before bed i would try and clamp off again.

i have only recently strated randomly clamping. got the idea of bigjoe or bigbuttlover i think i dunno lol.

but recently my length and girth is coming along nice and my cumming is shooting
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] rocks, dld you legend

 

[huge-girth]

For me, girth is harder because masturbation is a major obstacle to girth work and you need to stay erect to train girth.