I've not heard of that. checking that out now. thanks for letting me know btw!
You will see faster permanent girth with that program. There is also an indication that if you don't do SSJ's between your pumping sets, there is high chance you won't see permanent girth increase.You will lose the girth when you stop pumping.

So this program is extremely important.
If you look, I have that program in my signature, it's that important.
 
You will see faster permanent girth with that program. There is also an indication that if you don't do SSJ's between your pumping sets, there is high chance you won't see permanent girth increase.You will lose the girth when you stop pumping.

So this program is extremely important.
If you look, I have that program in my signature, it's that important.
oh damn! then I wouldn't wanna miss out on that! will incorporate SSJ into my next pump!
 
I don't recommend clamping. Clamping can be extremely dangerous since you can develop, DVT (Deep Vain Thrombosis), that can create permanent damage on your body (heart, lungs, brain...).
duly noted. that sounds pretty dangerous. seems like it's a hard & slow process of making gains permanent for bathmate. i'm fearing that if in the long run I don't pump again, the gains diminish. is there any other ways to make length gains permanent I wonder?
 
duly noted. that sounds pretty dangerous. seems like it's a hard & slow process of making gains permanent for bathmate. i'm fearing that if in the long run I don't pump again, the gains diminish. is there any other ways to make length gains permanent I wonder?

If your gains are cemented, they would become permanent. If you are looking to get to 6 inches in girth, shoot for 6.25 inches. When you stop pumping, you are likely to settle at 6 inches girth permanent size.
 
duly noted. that sounds pretty dangerous. seems like it's a hard & slow process of making gains permanent for bathmate. i'm fearing that if in the long run I don't pump again, the gains diminish. is there any other ways to make length gains permanent I wonder?
Length gains! You need the lengthmaster, It's the master of length gains. Length gains in Bathmate from my own experience will be slow.

Here is the link to MOS Shop:
LENGTHMASTER 3

I love the LENGTHMASTER 3 I know will take me to, BPEL: 8" faster then anyting else.
 
If your gains are cemented, they would become permanent. If you are looking to get to 6 inches in girth, shoot for 6.25 inches. When you stop pumping, you are likely to settle at 6 inches girth permanent size.
I like the sound of it. at least the gains are not for nothing. roughly how long it takes for gains to be cemented?
 
Length gains! You need the lengthmaster, It's the master of length gains. Length gains in Bathmate from my own experience will be slow.

Here is the link to MOS Shop:
LENGTHMASTER 3

I love the LENGTHMASTER 3 I know will take me to, BPEL: 8" faster then anyting else.
that seems like a pretty weird thing but thank for letting me know! I'm in the process of checking it out to see how it works
 
that seems like a pretty weird thing but thank for letting me know! I'm in the process of checking it out to see how it works
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Maybe it looks weid, but with this you will gain. There is not anything like it elsewhere. This is the master of length gains.
It's so fun to use as well. After every session you feel like you are getting longer.
 
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Maybe it looks weid, but with this you will gain. There is not anything like it elsewhere. This is the master of length gains.
It's so fun to use as well. After every session you feel like you are getting longer.
hahaha I love the sound of it! happy to hear that you've been enjoying it so far. so for length, it would be length master, while for girth, it would be SSJ? or is there something better than SSJ for girth haha
 
The 5x5x3 is the ultimate girth workout, just pick up the mityvac and you are good
gotcha, thanks for the reply! ah man, if only I've discover this forum sooner, I'd save so much money from buying the Mityvac system. since Bathmate doesn't ship to my country, I had to ship it to my friend in another country & had him ship it to me. aesthetic wise, I prefer Bathmate, but looking at the Mityvac, the practicality & functionality are undefeatable -- with cock rings, Silicaps, Mitysleeve, gauge & even a water trap. made me regret getting the Bathmate lol
 
guys, maybe this sounds dumb but I wonder if it's ok to wear the silisleve & cock ring for 8 hrs while sleeping after workout?
I don't recommend you to do any kind of penis enlargement while you sleep, to much can happen/go wrong, when you are not awake and can monitor your penis. A good rule is: Only do penis enlargement while you are awake.
 
I don't recommend you to do any kind of penis enlargement while you sleep, to much can happen/go wrong, when you are not awake and can monitor your penis. A good rule is: Only do penis enlargement while you are awake.
roger that man. if the goal is to heal in an elongated & enlarged state, what would you say is a good duration to put the cock ring & sleeve on while awake?
 
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roger that man. if the goal is to heal in an elongated & enlarged state, what would you say is a good duration to put the cock ring & sleeve on while awake?
I'm not working on girth right now. But I have heard the time frame of 30 minutes with the cock ring. You can take it off after 30 minutes, restore good blood flow, and then get an erection and then put the cock ring on again.

Elongation with a wrap or a sleeve, I recommend you to have that on as much as possible during the day when you are awake. Not during sleep.

You want to teach your penis, to stay elongated instead of retracting, and your penis will get longer faster. If you would not have your penis elongated during the day, it would take longer time for it to grow longer.

My rule: Always have a penis elongation wrap on (as much as possible). You can also use a ADS for this (like the: SiliStretcher).
 
I'm not working on girth right now. But I have heard the time frame of 30 minutes with the cock ring. You can take it off after 30 minutes, restore good blood flow, and then get an erection and then put the cock ring on again.

Elongation with a wrap or a sleeve, I recommend you to have that on as much as possible during the day when you are awake. Not during sleep.

You want to teach your penis, to stay elongated instead of retracting, and your penis will get longer faster. If you would not have your penis elongated during the day, it would take longer time for it to grow longer.

My rule: Always have a penis elongation wrap on (as much as possible). You can also use a ADS for this (like the: SiliStretcher).
alright man, thanks once again!
 
hmm, so it's my 2nd day using the Myvitac pump & the quality is way superb than the plastiky Bathmate. water retention's drastically reduced by using the sleeve, allowing longer pumping sessions. no more balls getting sucked or feeling pain in the process, no more pulling of the foreskin down to the shaft with each pump, & I'm able to work my way up to 14 or 15 Hg while feeling my upper mid & bottom shaft been stretched longitudinally, which is superb. the pain that I felt with the Bathmate wasn't so much on the useful stretch but on all those other stupid unrelated drama as mentioned haha.

the only part that I'm still trying to figure out is how to put on the sleeve & suction part (with cock ring) of Mytivac fast enough. it took me an hour I guess. no lube = pain, hard to put on, hard to remove. lube = sleeve won't stay but slide off. rolling like a condom = hard to put on too, painful. it took me a combo of stretching the sleeve, bit of lube & roll to put it on. & the reason it's so hard cuz I'm trying my best to ensure my foreskin's pulled down as much as I can to avoid insufficient room for my penis to expand during the pump. that insufficient room in day 1 caused pain due to foreskin wanting to get stretched but room was limited.

I wonder how do y'all put on the sleeve efficiently & quick?

slow squashed jelq's been less painful due to minimum water retention, but it's hard to do given that it's hard for me to stay erect for long. adult entertainment hardly excites me anymore & I need to penetrate some fake pussy in between jelq to stay erect lol
 
My answers have always been heavy downward stretching or hanging, this increases base girth quickly. But, WOW, I am taken back with the detail you go into here, very clear and extremely on point. I think this thread will become a sticky in no time! Thank you for doing this work for us, I greatly appreciate it.

Men need to know that extra base girth means more stability in erection quality, meaning a increase in base girth will raise your erection angle.

I also want to add that Expressive Stretching is another, newer way to increase base girth while it increases length.
oh my, revisiting this & I've always thought downward stretching & hanging increases length.
 
Hello guys! I am an old PEer and i am back in these forums nowadays.
DLD and a couple of other members have asked me to provide some information and views on increasing the base girth.

As an introduction i have to say that base girth probably has been the most useful part of my cock because it seems that, when every woman is on top
(at least from my experience) and she can get vagina orgasms(not all of them can, i think like a 10% cannot orgasm just from vaginal penetration), they orgasm in a matter of minutes.
So yes, it is a very useful part as it creates more friction to the opening when balls deep or when she rubs her pubic bone on top.

So, there are many ways to increase it.
For me it has always been bigger than the head and midshaft and this difference became larger over the years.
You can see my signature for more information.

I never had a "magic" base girth exercise or anything to target this area. However, my base girth has increased more than 3" over the years creating the "pyramid"-shaped
cock which i have now. However, it is very useful and i can still enjoy blowjobs and maybe shove the head in anal and of course have the benefits of that girth in vaginal penetration.
So i am happy overall.
My base girth came slowly over the years with the following:
1)Static stretching
2)Jelqing
3)Cockrings (metalic) several hours per day
4)Kegels
5)Base squezzing and clamping
6)Edging

So it came from PE exercises. Keep in mind that it took me almost 8-9 years.
The question now is where exactly do i contribute the gains of the base girth.

1)I think a pure 1" of base girth came from stretching with the heavy duty static stretcher. My base girth was thick anyway around 5.1" back at the time and with the stretching
i was doing, a thicker part of my inner penis was coming out from the ligaments and it brought it to 5.9-6.0" with stretching. At this point i never had any real significant overwhelming midshaft girth gain. Only length gains, and significant base girth gains because of the inner penis that was coming out.

2)Kegels helped a lot as well with thickening the muscle down there so when i was kegeling the base was growing thicker. It helps kegeling.

3)Jelqing. Allright, overall from jelqing i can say that i gained 0.25" girth gains overal from head to base it was a nice supplementary exercise to get the bloow flowing.

4)The most important after stretching was the metalic cockring. My base would explode every time i would wear a cockring. Sometimes with fluid build up if i was to hard on me.
Then squeezing the base, kegeling for more blood inside and keep it there for one minute while stimulating the head with the other hand. Going close to orgasm then stop by squezzing again..then kegeling again etc. After the work outs i was wearing the cockring for 5-6 hours and never took it off so my cock was meaty for a good 3-4 hours afterwards.

I think 1) and 4) over the years, slowly contributed to the base girth like 0.35" per year or something.
The first 1" base girth came only from stretching the rest 2" came slowly with this routine with the cockring clamping squeezing over a course of 7 years.

My routine in general for the girth was for fun, I was wearing a cockring when i was fucking, foreplay whatever which was about 1 hour per week, being very hard with a cockring!
Another 5 hours a week personal time in total with my cockring! And another 5-6 hours per day just wearing it!

I am not saying to try this routine of course. What i can say for sure is that if your girth is already thicker than your head or whatever, maybe the inner penis you have
and you will get out by stretching is way thicker pyramid-shaped like mine. So there is a chance that by stretching you will make magnificent gains in base girth.

For the cockring i think it is a must to wear it during girth work and push it as far down to the base as you can :)

Hope i gave some new insight on this topic.

One more comment for motivation. Since 2012 when i made my base girth 7.5" all the women that have touched (about 25) have commented that is the thickest base they have touched. All of them :p
Nowadays i have a gf so she is the only one who sees it and of course she has the same opinion. She has been with 3 guys only and she has touched played with 9 guys more over the years and she tells me that probably volumewise my cock is 50% larger than the largest she has seen. Which is not too bad. :)
I showed her once some objects for comparison. She is really good in telling size etc. We found a carrot that was 7.5" length with an overall girth of 5.75" (that was a huge damn carrot by the way ! haha) that was the biggest she have had. For my self now, she estimates my size at 6.75" real length by 6.5" girth (which is the average girth of my 3 three measurements!)

However, my NBPEL is 6.25" so she overestimates my NBPEL length by 0.5" so if she did the same with the other largest guy among the 12 she has seen, he would be around 7" NBPEL by 5.75". The smallest she has had was around 5" length by 4.0" girth. So i guess she has had her reasonable sample!! :)

You dont have to worry about these numbers though. Take your time with PE here and even if you are 4.0" in girth , relax take it easy and you will be 5" in the worst case scenario in 3 years :))
Regards .
this might sound silly, but what's a heavy duty static stretcher? been searching online but couldn't find anything besides leg stretches lol.
 
I believe this is normal. I have this going on as well.
ah i see. thought it has to be the pump cuz i heard everyone saying that pumps increases their base girth or overall girth. for me, i feel pressure around the top mid when i pumped with the bathmate. even with hardcore stretches, i feel it mostly went into length gains for me.
 
ah i see. thought it has to be the pump cuz i heard everyone saying that pumps increases their base girth or overall girth. for me, i feel pressure around the top mid when i pumped with the bathmate. even with hardcore stretches, i feel it mostly went into length gains for me.
Did you use the comfort insert in the Bathmate pump? What pump do you use now?
 
i tried removing the comfort pad once but can't retain suction.
No comfort insert. Vaseline on the rubber, and a clean shaved "fat pad".
This worked for me. I also tied a bandage around my ball-sack to keep my balls from entering the tube. But not the most comfortable. But everything for gains. I maxed out the hydromax 5 in girth in no time. I believe the comfort insert prevent you from gaining maximum girth.

In Wide Boy 7, I also winded a small strip of bandage at the base of my penis to prevent the mushroom shape from happening. Got more even expansion this way.
 
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