VACHANGER: any one gain using lower weights (5 lbs and under) and longer times?

templnite;678035 said:
Nah that was just to save face. Told me the same a few days ago "don't talk to me", but still tries to act raw smh. I gotta admit deadwood handled this one flawlessly unlike I that had to resort to name calling/pointing out flaws towards the end. I was on the crusade for a whole month too, but damn man this one took two days bruh XD! I cant say means justify ends, but finally the objective was met which is just transparency/honesty.

Jimmy hats off to you brother you truly know the art of gore :), and to think they were saying "ban him" a little while ago XD. The puppies out here, mike doesn't answer to you. He's like Shao Khan up in here saying fatality.
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Hey deadwood. Deadwood provided everyone with a lot of lies. He asked wuestion and I answered them with facts. I then showed him messages that he ignores b/c he is caught being wrong. You are a troll.
 
youknowme123321;678004 said:
Poor guy. It must be tough saying things and then having people show you're wrong :( and lying
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GIVE ME A "V"- V. GIVE ME AN "A"-A. ETC ETC. All you need is a nice short skirt and some pom poms and you can cheer lead for vachanging.

Dude, you proved I am "wrong"? How ? I gave my honest opinion about vachanging. Personally I met three guys that successfully hang over 10 pounds. One being you. Do I believe all three? Nope. I don't believe not a one since all three are rah rah cheerleaders and I suspect connected to vachanging. I gave my experience and MY honest opinion. Am I right in deducing vachanging is not the way of the future? Maybe. Who knows. But am I wrong? Nah. Am I lying? Nah. I actually had to pay 150 bucks for mine. I wish I would have bought the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] first.

You can't show me "I am wrong" because this is my opinion based on PERSONAL experience where I actually paid for a product. See that's the difference between a whore and girlfriend- You get sex free from a girlfriend, you pay a whore. You get paid. Guess which one you are?
 
youknowme123321;678044 said:
Hey deadwood. Deadwood provided everyone with a lot of lies. He asked wuestion and I answered them with facts. I then showed him messages that he ignores b/c he is caught being wrong. You are a troll.
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How so? I have been having problems hanging more than 5 pounds from the get go. Anyways, why do you care so much? Unless you have a ve$ted interest why do you care? I am 100% truth son. Sorry about backing an inferior product. Better luck next time.
 
Please Brothers, post threads in the proper forum. The more time I spend moderating the less time I can spend helping people.
 
deadwood187;678059 said:
GIVE ME A "V"- V. GIVE ME AN "A"-A. ETC ETC. All you need is a nice short skirt and some pom poms and you can cheer lead for vachanging.

Dude, you proved I am "wrong"? How ? I gave my honest opinion about vachanging. Personally I met three guys that successfully hang over 10 pounds. One being you. Do I believe all three? Nope. I don't believe not a one since all three are rah rah cheerleaders and I suspect connected to vachanging. I gave my experience and MY honest opinion. Am I right in deducing vachanging is not the way of the future? Maybe. Who knows. But am I wrong? Nah. Am I lying? Nah. I actually had to pay 150 bucks for mine. I wish I would have bought the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] first.

You can't show me "I am wrong" because this is my opinion based on PERSONAL experience where I actually paid for a product. See that's the difference between a whore and girlfriend- You get sex free from a girlfriend, you pay a whore. You get paid. Guess which one you are?
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Hi tempinite. Below you can read your posts. You do not share them as opinions. You say that going over 5hg will start discoloration. Then go on to say higher hg will be worse. You say this as fact as if it pertains to every man. You say vacuum is vacuum is vacuum and that no matter what it is going to lead to negative effects. That is not sharing an opinion. You talk like what you're saying is fact and that it will happen to everyone. Me saying that so far I like the LGhanger a lot is an opinion. But then I go on to say I'll be sharing more information as I continue to use the tool and then I will make videos for everyone both of how I use water and how much weight I end up being able to hang.

For once you actually give an opinion. You're right. Is it wrong to say you think vachanging isn't the future...no you're not. Am I wrong to say so far I really like it and am looking forward to continuing progressing with vachanging...no I'm not. I don't about my vachanging experience very much in this thread and that's b/c I am still progressing. I spend most of my time showing how out of your mind you are in this thread.

I keep responding to your poor quality posts b/c you keep saying I have a vested interest in tools on my site. I have shown you multiple times that I have no affiliation. I showed you that I don't use tools the way companies say to and I share with men how to use them more easily. SWM even called you out b/c you think anyone who is affiliated can't be trusted and guess who is affiliated...MOS and DLD. FUnny how you never responded back to SWM's post. You keep saying I get paid you, shill. I don't get paid. Go back to post #92 where I answered your question and showed how stupid you are by showing I don't only give positive reviews of tools. I show how to make tools work better by not doing what the companies who sell the tools say to do.

No one believes you've even used any vac hanging system. Or that you have taken steroids. All you do is get off on talking like you know something and calling people names and acting like you're smart. Such troll behavior.

deadwood187;678061 said:
How so? I have been having problems hanging more than 5 pounds from the get go. Anyways, why do you care so much? Unless you have a ve$ted interest why do you care? I am 100% truth son. Sorry about backing an inferior product. Better luck next time.
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Hi again tempinite. AS I explained above and you can see in your quotes below you have never shared an opinion. You talk like what happened to you will happen to everyone. And b/c I have pics showing that I can hang much more and have no negative effects you attacked me. I never messaged you until you messaged me and started calling me names and saying untrue things like I'm affiliated, that I went on to show how you were lying. I don't back any products you shill. I share information on all kinds of PE tools including tools I don't like such as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Even with vachangers I don't recommend using tapes to prevent blistering b/c I got blister when I did this. But others say tape prevents them from blistering. I say to use water with vachanging which isn't recommend by the sellers of vachangers. I fond ways that make tools work for me then I share them. Take care tempinite

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.
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deadwood187;677790 said:
No. You come in to shill certain products (Vachanger being one) and push your OWN product. I'll leave it at that.

Vacuum is Vacuum is Vacuum. Anything over 5HG will start discoloration. Anything over 10HG is going to be hard on your penis, 15 HG +- you are asking for trouble. Do you know, or HAVE EVER MEASURED, how much HG the vachanger has on 5 pounds? I have measured 12 HG. Another guy on TP measured 15 HG. So tell me now: How the HELL do you manage 10+ pounds? Oh I know, with little kiddie tricks in your video. Vac hanging is not the ideal way to hang Period. End of story.
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deadwood187;677861 said:
Anything over 5 HG will cause discoloration. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] goes up to a max of 8 HG (measured). And how many complaints you get of discoloration? And that's using water and most can't even get up to 8 HG with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], most get to 7 HG. So vachanging , which easily can get up to 8 HG on 5 pounds, won't cause discoloration? Get outta here .

I don't run a commercial account nor do I get paid or get free stuff to be a shill so no videos. Unlike you I don't make money off this stuff. Vachanging is a terrible ideal and the 1000's of threads complaining about vachanging and high weights is testament that this experiment is OVER.
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youknowme123321;678112 said:
Hi tempinite. Below you can read your posts. You do not share them as opinions. You say that going over 5hg will start discoloration. Then go on to say higher hg will be worse. You say this as fact as if it pertains to every man. You say vacuum is vacuum is vacuum and that no matter what it is going to lead to negative effects. That is not sharing an opinion. You talk like what you're saying is fact and that it will happen to everyone. Me saying that so far I like the LGhanger a lot is an opinion. But then I go on to say I'll be sharing more information as I continue to use the tool and then I will make videos for everyone both of how I use water and how much weight I end up being able to hang.

For once you actually give an opinion. You're right. Is it wrong to say you think vachanging isn't the future...no you're not. Am I wrong to say so far I really like it and am looking forward to continuing progressing with vachanging...no I'm not. I don't about my vachanging experience very much in this thread and that's b/c I am still progressing. I spend most of my time showing how out of your mind you are in this thread.

I keep responding to your poor quality posts b/c you keep saying I have a vested interest in tools on my site. I have shown you multiple times that I have no affiliation. I showed you that I don't use tools the way companies say to and I share with men how to use them more easily. SWM even called you out b/c you think anyone who is affiliated can't be trusted and guess who is affiliated...MOS and DLD. FUnny how you never responded back to SWM's post. You keep saying I get paid you, shill. I don't get paid. Go back to post #92 where I answered your question and showed how stupid you are by showing I don't only give positive reviews of tools. I show how to make tools work better by not doing what the companies who sell the tools say to do.

No one believes you've even used any vac hanging system. Or that you have taken steroids. All you do is get off on talking like you know something and calling people names and acting like you're smart. Such troll behavior.



Hi again tempinite. AS I explained above and you can see in your quotes below you have never shared an opinion. You talk like what happened to you will happen to everyone. And b/c I have pics showing that I can hang much more and have no negative effects you attacked me. I never messaged you until you messaged me and started calling me names and saying untrue things like I'm affiliated, that I went on to show how you were lying. I don't back any products you shill. I share information on all kinds of PE tools including tools I don't like such as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Even with vachangers I don't recommend using tapes to prevent blistering b/c I got blister when I did this. But others say tape prevents them from blistering. I say to use water with vachanging which isn't recommend by the sellers of vachangers. I fond ways that make tools work for me then I share them. Take care tempinite
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So you will insist we are the same people despite the fact you know we are not? You are using 80's style of Deflection Scientology propaganda to obscure the truth and facts. I have news for you: People are too smart for this shit these days.......see how dead the thread is? People know you are a shill and take your word as one of a paid off whore hawking garbage.

Here are the cold facts:

VACHANGER is only good for LIGHT hanging. Heavy hanging is not possible and anyone (well all three guys online) saying it can be used for heavy hanging is a shill or connected to the company.

It is a glorified [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. End of story. Case closed.

So you use your little kiddie 80's Scientology garbage of deflection and TRY to obscure the facts but facts are facts- It's a shitty hanger for length. SO save your money people. NO amount of your lunacy will change this.
 
When somebody moves their flaps that much you can tell they're desperate for attention, and will regurgitate the same shit forever, and ever untill some poor sucker buys into his mongolisms. The more they talk the more their credibility deteriorates to the point we find he is likely working toward his personal interests more than anything.
 
deadwood187;678193 said:
So you will insist we are the same people despite the fact you know we are not? You are using 80's style of Deflection Scientology propaganda to obscure the truth and facts. I have news for you: People are too smart for this shit these days.......see how dead the thread is? People know you are a shill and take your word as one of a paid off whore hawking garbage.

Here are the cold facts:

VACHANGER is only good for LIGHT hanging. Heavy hanging is not possible and anyone (well all three guys online) saying it can be used for heavy hanging is a shill or connected to the company.

It is a glorified [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. End of story. Case closed.

So you use your little kiddie 80's Scientology garbage of deflection and TRY to obscure the facts but facts are facts- It's a shitty hanger for length. SO save your money people. NO amount of your lunacy will change this.
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See you say end of story case closed. You have never shared your opinion once. You only talk in facts like tempinite (which is you). ANd then you go on to say things without any proof just like tempinite (you). You're a lying shill and anyone who has read your posts see you say the same things over and over knows this. I only respond to you. ANd i also share my opinion and at least I'll be making videos that either show I can hang heavy or can't. So I'll be the one who actually says something about this subject that matters and has truth behind. But I'm not going to try and do it to fast.

You're the one who ignores and doesn't respond to posts that show you're wrong like mine and SWM's post to you. You're the avoider of facts.

Scientology references now tempinite? That's a new "religion" for you to start mentioning
 
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templnite;678198 said:
When somebody moves their flaps that much you can tell they're desperate for attention, and will regurgitate the same shit forever, and ever untill some poor sucker buys into his mongolisms. The more they talk the more their credibility deteriorates to the point we find he is likely working toward his personal interests more than anything.
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You realize every post of mine has been in response to you and deadwoods (deadwood is you) posts to me. And you both keep saying the same things to me. And then b/c you have messaged me I message you back.

You are talking shit about yourself in the quote above. If you don't message me and tell lies I won't have to respond back and show how wrong you are.
 
Ok when is stillwantsmore gonna come to defend you. Aw I forgot he's thinks you're a shill too XD
 
templnite;678202 said:
Ok when is stillwantsmore gonna come to defend you. Aw I forgot he's thinks you're a shill too XD
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SWM wasn't defending me you shill. I never said that. But I have point out on multiple occasions how SWM showed how deadwood's (which is you) thinking and what he says is flawed. And I have now added the quotes again for you. The first quote is deadwood's (tempinite's) unreasonable message to me. And the next message is SWM's to him (you). SWM's message wasn't to defend me. SWM is just a reasonable person unlike you and deadwood (both are you).

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.
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And below here is SWM response to deadwood (tempinite)
stillwantmore2;677682 said:
Standing by your philosophy there, why don't you just go ahead and say the same about DLD? He has a vested interest in every single product recommended here. YKM has no permission to represent anything here. Sure, he can tell us his opinions. I have permission to represent my devices here. You have a flawed thought pattern there, but whatever. I am here to represent my products, answer questions about them and I also coach men on using them...and on hanging in general.
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Ahh but you acknowledge how he feels of you. Ok that's good enough stillwantsmore's influence is strong af, and if he says you're a loose affiliate then so be it.
 
templnite;678204 said:
Ahh but you acknowledge how he feels of you. Ok that's good enough stillwantsmore's influence is strong af, and if he says you're a loose affiliate then so be it.
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Look at that you told another lie...I never said anything about how SWM feels about me. Neither has he. You get caught lying so much, shill. You and deadwood are the only members (your both of these members) that any other members ever say are not good people and that you're rude and disrespectful. No one has ever said that to me. I act maturely with everyone and if myself and someone post opposing opinions we both share our sides and come to an agreement even if it is to disagree. But they and I share reasonable facts and opinion which is something you don't do whether you are posting as tempinite or deadwood.

SWM never called me an affiliate so don't go putting words in other people's mouths now. It makes you look even worse.
 
templnite;678219 said:
Yeah he even told you why, but you just deflected it http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/87511-i-told-everyone-not-to-post-products-in-the-main-forum-please-read-2.html
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Who told me why what, shill? Thank you for linking that thread. It shows how much a liar you are and what people think of you.

Are you talking about SWM thinking I gave him an unfair review? And then he and I discussed it. That is not deflecting. It was the exact opposite of deflecting. We discussed it and came to a reasonable ending. I told him why I stand behind my review and then based on what he shared with me I added to my review to visit his forums and how to guide to get more detailed information about his wrapping/hanging recommendations. That starts at post #35 and ends at post #71 with various posts in between. And then post #72 and #73 were nice compliments to me. No one ever says you're a nice guy. They call you an instigator and that I'm wasting my time talking to you (they're right) but I can't let you just constantly tell lies and make up things. It's fun making a troll look like a troll.

Starting at post #43 was nice to read over again where superman shows how childish and unreasonably you act. Again thanks for linking that thread to show how poorly you act.

And look up what deflect means.
 
"Swm game me a compliment", so if somebody give me one I'm supposed to urinate all over myself like a dog when he sees his master? The only thing fun is the part where I call "somebody" a weasel, and you automatically think I'm saying you XD. Dawg everytime I see your posts I read it in your voice, and I nearly fall off my desk XDXDXD:P
 
templnite;678237 said:
"Swm game me a compliment", so if somebody give me one I'm supposed to urinate all over myself like a dog when he sees his master? The only thing fun is the part where I call "somebody" a weasel, and you automatically think I'm saying you XD. Dawg everytime I see your posts I read it in your voice, and I nearly fall off my desk XDXDXD:P
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Poor troll. Always getting shot down. You try so hard. I'm sorry you're not good at life
 
templnite;678437 said:
More text for me to scan briefly then proceed to lay down the knowledge pipe likea bawse, damn :cool:. That thread is the worse thing that can happen to your credibility because you go from saying the vacs are the thing which will advance PE to saying they're will need to pass many years for anyone to say if vacs are actually effective good or not, to saying that even you need to see where the vac takes you which in your words is more than one years. I guess that settles it you cant push those products until 1+ years :blush:
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Start taking lots of measurement pictures ykm you are the first person to show without a doubt if the vac hangers work or not. Happy gaining "D
 
templnite;678442 said:
Start taking lots of measurement pictures ykm you are the first person to show without a doubt if the vac hangers work or not. Happy gaining "D
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Wow..in post #118 you quoted yourself...hahahahaha and left out my response to you. That is trolling 101 hahaha only giving one side of the story by quoting yourself...WOW

I already have the before pics and videos up on my site. I know you've seen them.

I'll be the first person to show without a doubt that any penis hanger works. Nobody has any conclusive evidence of compression hangers or vac hangers actually working.

Thanks
 
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