Three years of PE later........

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Jeff Powers

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Hey everyone, I'm a long time reader, first time poster here. I am seeking some advice on whether or not it would be a good idea to take a "break" from Penis Enlargement. Here is a summary of my history in Penis Enlargement:

I have been fairly consistent over the last two years with Dry Jelquing and very basic stretching. The last year or so, I have included supra slammers and clamping. I started at exactly 6" NBP erect length and 5" EG. Now, at last measure, I am just a tad over 7" NBP erect length, 5.25" at mid-shaft and just over 5.5" EG at the base.

For the bulk of the three years, I have not really followed an explicit plan, although I have been consistent with doing some combination of stretching, dry jelqs, and for the last year or so, clamping. When clamping I get up to 5.75" EG mid-shaft, but, honestly, I wish that would become my permanent measurement. For a long time, I would go six days per week with one day off. My dry jelqing sessions last up to 25 minutes with about 20 minutes of stretching before hand (straight down, straight up, A-stretches and V-stretches each held for 30 secs). Lately, I alternate this with my other days clamping. I am now up to 10-15 minutes of supra-slammers or dry jelquing, which is immediately followed by a 25 minute set in the morning, followed by a 20 min. clamping set in the evening. So, it's 3 days with the stretch/dry jelq and 3 days with the slammers/clamping routine. Girth and length gains have been slooow.

I feel as though I should have gained more over this time period and often get discouraged that I have done the exercises improperly,etc. My goal is, as it has always been, to get up to 8" in length and between 5.5" and/or 6" in girth.

I would really appreciate some advice on where to go now, how to shake things up a bit. Whether it means taking a de conditioning break, or simply just getting back to a very basic routine.

Thanks, DLD you've got a nice site here!
 
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Hey Jeff welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Congrats on your gains. Over and inch in length and 1/4 inch in girth have surely been worth your time. I was actually wondering what some long timers thought about deconditioning. You may just need a different approach.

LOT theory: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41910&

Also do you observe your flaccid stretch length? Some say gains made there quickly translate to erect gains.
 
my current LOT appears to be right at 9:00. I do need a new plan of attack to finish off my goals. So many options though makes my head spin searching, thinking about which direction to go in.........I need to break through this plateau.
 
if you have spent roughly 3 years P.E.'ing, i strongly suggest joining the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] paysite before investing any more time. it will help you with proper form for your current exercises, along with new, more intense ones for future gains. An inch in length, and a small girth increase are about all anyone will achieve through JUST phase one (which is pretty much everything you have done, taking away the slammers). of course, some gain more (DLD), some gain less, (me!)..

but i would join [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], and start somewhere with a hybrid between PHASE 2 and 3 good luck!
 
Guys, thanks for the responses. I'll have a closer look at these threads, etc. and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] phases plan. I guess I'm just speaking out of frustration and expecting to have gained more by now after 3 years of Penis Enlargement. Anyone else, please feel free to offer suggestions on where I could go now or how I could shake things up......whether it means just getting back to basics or something else. Maybe I could take a week or two off and "re-set" with a new starting point, getting back to basics?

Once again:
Currently --almost 7.25" NBP erect, 5.25" mid shaft erect, 5.5 base erect girth, flaccid is usually right between 4.5" and 5" long.

Goal is 8" erect and 5.75" to 6" erect mid shaft
 
wow ... .25 in girth is all? :(

How long did it stay at 5.75 if you don't mind me asking?

I plan on starting up clamping, and hope that that gets me closer to 5.75 (short term goal). But 2 years just seems WAAAY too long for that ...


As far as advice ... I'm a noobie but ... like any other training ... I say CHANGE IT UP!

do something different ... be it reps, days, exercises or all of the above.
 
Check out the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] blog and DLD's interview with CORE magazine. It's a ways down, the Thursday Dec 11th 2008 entry. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21970

DLD discusses his start in Penis Enlargement and his discouragement about only gaining 2 inches when he was promised 4 and was pretty much blasted by everyone as being a liar. The point I wanted to make was that 3 years= 1 inch in length and .25 in girth is still improvement and a lot of people put in time like that with similar results. You're not alone. Just take a look at all the possibilities here and believe you will gain again.

When was your last gain. You could probably take time off and "shock" your penis again if it's been a while.
 
seekngirth;328973 said:
wow ... .25 in girth is all? :(

How long did it stay at 5.75 if you don't mind me asking?

I plan on starting up clamping, and hope that that gets me closer to 5.75 (short term goal). But 2 years just seems WAAAY too long for that ...


As far as advice ... I'm a noobie but ... like any other training ... I say CHANGE IT UP!

do something different ... be it reps, days, exercises or all of the above.
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Yeah, that's what part of my frustration is about.....going so long and not really seeing any major girth gains. I've been clamping for a good while now as I stated before. During my 25 minute set of clamping, I get up to around 5.75 mid-shaft girth, which leaves me with a decent pump and hang for a few hours afterwards. But, when I take a day or two off and measure...it's still the same ole 5.25" mid shaft. I have really struggled with girth gains and, unfortunately, that's what I most want to gain. I can live with 7" or 7.25" in length, but I really want that girth to be upwards of 5.75" to 6" cemented. But, expanding up to 5.75" has been progress since before, I was expanded at 5.5"..

It's really frustrating. I've read and read and read again many of these threads for some time now and have tried to apply what I've learned....with consistency. Maybe I just haven't hit on that combo of exercises and optimal days on/off. I feel like I've wasted so much time trying to figure out what works.

I need a fresh start or a breakthrough of some sort. I feel like I should be up to at least 5.75" girth by now and approaching 8" in length. I'm not giving up on this though, because at least I have seen SOME gain, right? I just want to take it to the next level.
 
Jeff Powers;328977 said:
Yeah, that's what part of my frustration is about.....going so long and not really seeing any major girth gains. I've been clamping for a good while now as I stated before. During my 25 minute set of clamping, I get up to around 5.75 mid-shaft girth, which leaves me with a decent pump and hang for a few hours afterwards. But, when I take a day or two off and measure...it's still the same ole 5.25" mid shaft. I have really struggled with girth gains and, unfortunately, that's what I most want to gain. I can live with 7" or 7.25" in length, but I really want that girth to be upwards of 5.75" to 6" cemented. But, expanding up to 5.75" has been progress since before, I was expanded at 5.5"..

It's really frustrating. I've read and read and read again many of these threads for some time now and have tried to apply what I've learned....with consistency. Maybe I just haven't hit on that combo of exercises and optimal days on/off. I feel like I've wasted so much time trying to figure out what works.

I need a fresh start or a breakthrough of some sort. I feel like I should be up to at least 5.75" girth by now and approaching 8" in length. I'm not giving up on this though, because at least I have seen SOME gain, right? I just want to take it to the next level.
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Welcome Jeff,

What you just said is if you take a day or 2 off you go back to normal girth. IMO girth work must be done everyday, even if it is only 10mins you gotta do it to make gains in girth.

How much time do you have for Penis Enlargement everyday? That right there is a question that can help us assist you in your routine.
 
Ed, thanks for the reply.....On average, I have about 30-45 minutes in the early morning and, about 30 minutes or more at night. It's difficult for me to get privacy oftentimes with two young kids running all over the place here in the evenings. My most productive time is when I get up around 5:30 am and have around 30-40 minutes to myself. On occasion, however, I can find time during the day if I get home from work before everyone else gets home.

My first post above gives more detail about what I've been doing lately.
 
Yeah, don't feel bad. You've made decent length gains and .25 is still .25

I too fear that finding that elusive "magic" combo may never happen ... but I'm only a month in ...

Keep at it man ... a lot of people are in the same boat as you I'm sure.
 
i would say go for something very simple but very effective, and just increase the numbers.

you have 30-40 min in the morning?

i say do a quick warm up, and jelq for that whole time, as long as possible, everyday.

do your length in the evening, and edge when you have any spare time.

it's amazing some people's growth from just jelqs. i recommend wet jelqs, at 90-100%

you have 3 years of practice, and its not like your penis can't handle something pretty intense.

30 min am time / 3 sec jelqs = 600 jelqs.

maybe do them morning and night?

some people have gained length from jelqs.

perhaps do erect jelqs (600) in the am, and flaccid (600) in the pm,

and work length when you have free time.
 
"What you just said is if you take a day or 2 off you go back to normal girth. IMO girth work must be done everyday, even if it is only 10mins you gotta do it to make gains in girth." -Crazyed27

How accurate is this statment? Redzulu claims his girth came from every other day clamping?
 
irafreak1;329019 said:
"What you just said is if you take a day or 2 off you go back to normal girth. IMO girth work must be done everyday, even if it is only 10mins you gotta do it to make gains in girth." -Crazyed27

How accurate is this statment? Redzulu claims his girth came from every other day clamping?
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The responses are much appreciated. This is partially what is frustrating to me. One person recommends every day Penis Enlargement work (girth in this case), while another says to allow for some rest, i.e. not doing it everyday. Both people are very legit and give sound advice.....but which is correct? I know the penis isn't a muscle, but in my fitness, weight training workout experiences, my body responds well to high intensity workouts followed by rest days. Could my Penis Enlargement experience be similar to the way my body reacts to physical exercise?

I know, I know.....I have to find out what works for me, etc..... but I just don't want to waste time on routines, etc. that aren't going to be beneficial to me.
 
There needs to be some kind of experimentation with routines to find what will work for you...it is never wasted time. Edison said he did not fail at making the light bulb 100 times he found 100 ways not to make it.
 
DLD, et. al.

Thanks for the replies and for hearing me out. I think it may be time for me to just get back to basics. Looking back on everything, here are some things I have noticed:

--my LOT was very low to start with...now it's around 8:30 to 9:00

--I have not given enough time/effort into stretching during this length of time

--My jelqing has been "DRY" 90% of the time during the 3 year period...sets were never over 20 minutes at a time

--I get good expansion from supra-slammmers and clamping. My expanded girth during clamping used to top out at 5.5 mid shaft and is now 5.75" after a 20 minute set. I just wish this would be my "regular" girth somehow, someway.

--I tend to be guilty of the saying paralysis from over-analysis......i.e. I tend to complicate things.

--My gut feeling is that I should have grown more over three years, but maybe I just never gave a particular routine enough time to test it out. How much time should a routine be given?

--Still confused about how to work girth vs. length in a schedule. E.G. stretching/jelq in the AM followed by girth/clamping in the PM? Or, one day strictly length while the next day is strictly girth?

thanks for the advice. This is a good site you have going on here, DLD
 
doublelongdaddy;329057 said:
There needs to be some kind of experimentation with routines to find what will work for you...it is never wasted time. Edison said he did not fail at making the light bulb 100 times he found 100 ways not to make it.
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DLD, I'm almost inclined to start a girth-busters routine....maybe stretching/jelquing on every other day.....with the girth busters on every other day? I think the girth busters may be the breakthrough that I need.
 
irafreak1;329019 said:
"What you just said is if you take a day or 2 off you go back to normal girth. IMO girth work must be done everyday, even if it is only 10mins you gotta do it to make gains in girth." -Crazyed27

How accurate is this statment? Redzulu claims his girth came from every other day clamping?
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So what is YOUR experience on girth gains? Not his or theirs but yours??? My accuracey comes from my experiences and doing the work.

Jeff did state that if he took a day or two off his girth gains would go away. Now I went thoriugh the same shit at one time and made myself do at least 10 mins of girth at a full erection position everyday, and it paid off. I got gains, both flaccid and erect while doing this type of routine. So who are you to question my experience?

BTW you gotta link to my mate REDZULU's quote you just spoke on?
 
Jeff Powers;329060 said:
DLD, I'm almost inclined to start a girth-busters routine....maybe stretching/jelquing on every other day.....with the girth busters on every other day? I think the girth busters may be the breakthrough that I need.
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An incredible girth exercise that, in my opinion, only superseded by Slow Squash Jelqs.
 
Looking back I realized that I really "neglected" stretching. I never really gave it a real chance and my length gains were basically just from jelqing. What I think I"ll do now, instead of a deconditioning break..... is settle on a routine where I stretch (thoroughly) and jelq one day......followed by girth the next day,.....and so on and so forth.

Stretches will include most upward tunica (my LOT is around 8:30-9:00) and blasters for around 30 minutes followed by jelquing in the evening. The tunica stretch is where I pull basically straight up while getting into a "V" with my wrist as the fulcrum.

The next day, I'll do clamping for a 25 min. set....while clamped I"ll mix in some "squash" jelqs and do bends as well for about 30 seconds. I'll do a shorter session at night of either clamping or that flattening exercise that you can do on the toilet.

The clamp is just so much more comfortable for me than the manual girth stuff. It seems my expansion is better while clamped combined with the squashing and bending.
 
Jeff Powers;329622 said:
Looking back I realized that I really "neglected" stretching. I never really gave it a real chance and my length gains were basically just from jelqing. What I think I"ll do now, instead of a deconditioning break..... is settle on a routine where I stretch (thoroughly) and jelq one day......followed by girth the next day,.....and so on and so forth.

Stretches will include most upward tunica (my LOT is around 8:30-9:00) and blasters for around 30 minutes followed by jelquing in the evening. The tunica stretch is where I pull basically straight up while getting into a "V" with my wrist as the fulcrum.

The next day, I'll do clamping for a 25 min. set....while clamped I"ll mix in some "squash" jelqs and do bends as well for about 30 seconds. I'll do a shorter session at night of either clamping or that flattening exercise that you can do on the toilet.

The clamp is just so much more comfortable for me than the manual girth stuff. It seems my expansion is better while clamped combined with the squashing and bending.
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Sounds like a good plan. The Blasters should really increase your length gains big time. Keep us up to date.
 
A little hostile there crazyed. I wasn't criticizing or calling you a liar. It was an honest question. Sorry if it came off the wrong way. I wasn't thinking either was correct. I gained initially from everyday training but it was jelquing. When I do clamping like redzulu suggests in his writeup of every other day...I follow that advice.

My quote was "How accurate is this statement?" not "that's BS." I was addressing anyone else that has more experience than my 8 months like you and redzulu have. Just hoping for some feedback, not abuse.

And his write up is here...http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5913
 
irafreak1;329831 said:
A little hostile there crazyed. I wasn't criticizing or calling you a liar. It was an honest question. Sorry if it came off the wrong way. I wasn't thinking either was correct. I gained initially from everyday training but it was jelquing. When I do clamping like redzulu suggests in his writeup of every other day...I follow that advice.

My quote was "How accurate is this statement?" not "that's BS." I was addressing anyone else that has more experience than my 8 months like you and redzulu have. Just hoping for some feedback, not abuse.

And his write up is here...http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5913
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Guess I took it he wrong way at first, my bad irafreak.:)

Thanks for the link I always love to read Reds stuff, I miss that guy!<:(
 
If guys could only work things out with words, as we see on this forum, there would be no physical violence. Food for thought:)
 
doublelongdaddy;329960 said:
If guys could only work things out with words, as we see on this forum, there would be no physical violence. Food for thought:)
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So true DLD so true.



I know I excite too easliy.
 
crazyed27;330520 said:
So true DLD so true.



I know I excite too easliy.
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Yeah, but the point is we can't smack each other and the only way to resolve issues is through debate and understanding. The internet gives a certain safety that allows for more intelligent conversation.
 
doublelongdaddy;330540 said:
Yeah, but the point is we can't smack each other and the only way to resolve issues is through debate and understanding. The internet gives a certain safety that allows for more intelligent conversation.
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Instead of reacting we seem to type our post and proof read, then change it like 100 times before hitting the suBathmateit button. Which does really help even in stressful situations in real life face to face. Thus allowing you to grow more and more emotionaly.
 
Awwww seeing you guys be so senstive makes me want a big group hug. LOL ;)

I think what Jeff is saying has really helped me. I stopped doing stretches after new years. Gains went down. I think I need to add them back into my routine again and I'll see some change.

thanks for the insight Jeff.
 
AdmiralLongDong;330761 said:
Awwww seeing you guys be so senstive makes me want a big group hug. LOL ;)

I think what Jeff is saying has really helped me. I stopped doing stretches after new years. Gains went down. I think I need to add them back into my routine again and I'll see some change.

thanks for the insight Jeff.
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Ha, ha,....you're welcome. I am still plugging along, but I admit, I am getting very frustrated with Penis Enlargement right now, and my mental state is not the best right now. There are so many exercises and I feel like I need to be doing them all! But, I only have about 45 mins. per day that I can really devote to this. Finding that elusive combo of exercises and work/rest days has been VERY upsetting for me. I have been tempted to scrap all the confusion and just do the newbie program from now on.

But, through all this, I am still trying, still plugging away.
 
Jeff Powers;330789 said:
Ha, ha,....you're welcome. I am still plugging along, but I admit, I am getting very frustrated with Penis Enlargement right now, and my mental state is not the best right now. There are so many exercises and I feel like I need to be doing them all! But, I only have about 45 mins. per day that I can really devote to this. Finding that elusive combo of exercises and work/rest days has been VERY upsetting for me. I have been tempted to scrap all the confusion and just do the newbie program from now on.

But, through all this, I am still trying, still plugging away.
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Sometime the Newbie Program is exactly where a vet should be. It has a way of resetting Penis Enlargement for me. Gets me to become more focused.
 
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