The Grind

Big Schwanz Acht;753676 said:
Hey Deep, I can't recall if you ever modded your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] (or if you have The Extreme model), but what I have found is the amount of intensity I can impart is in direct relation to my growth
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Yeah I modded it...even but my balls in too lol. On that note, I think I'm going to switch up how I do my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions. Before, I would go at like 75%, 85%, then 90% for the first three sets respectively, leaving only the last two sets for 100% intensity. This was due to the amount of time it took for my balls to get used to the pressure...if I went to high too fast, I feel sick to my stomach. This evening however, I started very slow, not counting the first set towards my set of five. During that first set, I increased pressure slowly, letting my member get used to the pressure, and stopping at what I now consider a good 'baseline' (at about the 8.5 mark, this is like 85-90% intensity atm).
On my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] set today, I was only like .1" off from the ridge above the 8.5" mark (measured it, looks like it would be 9") so I'm making [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] progress at least...I want these to translate into erect gains.

I'm not sure if I want to go at that intensity every single day, because achieving that amount of pressure even for a short amount of time results in a good amount of water retention. I was thinking like 1 day [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session at baseline intensity for 5 minute sets, the next day max intensity session for 4 minute sets, and the next a jelqing and [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] day, then repeat? I'm also now letting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] just hang down instead of holding it up...I feel a good stretch when I do this, and it's quite intense at high pressures. I've also noticed my member is constantly sore from all the stretching...maybe a good thing since I'm recovering in an elongated state w/ the PF.

PF Hours: 29.0
 
DeepSighted;753698 said:
Yeah I modded it...even but my balls in too lol. On that note, I think I'm going to switch up how I do my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions. Before, I would go at like 75%, 85%, then 90% for the first three sets respectively, leaving only the last two sets for 100% intensity. This was due to the amount of time it took for my balls to get used to the pressure...if I went to high too fast, I feel sick to my stomach. This evening however, I started very slow, not counting the first set towards my set of five. During that first set, I increased pressure slowly, letting my member get used to the pressure, and stopping at what I now consider a good 'baseline' (at about the 8.5 mark, this is like 85-90% intensity atm).
On my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] set today, I was only like .1" off from the ridge above the 8.5" mark (measured it, looks like it would be 9") so I'm making [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] progress at least...I want these to translate into erect gains.

I'm not sure if I want to go at that intensity every single day, because achieving that amount of pressure even for a short amount of time results in a good amount of water retention. I was thinking like 1 day [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session at baseline intensity for 5 minute sets, the next day max intensity session for 4 minute sets, and the next a jelqing and [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] day, then repeat? I'm also now letting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] just hang down instead of holding it up...I feel a good stretch when I do this, and it's quite intense at high pressures. I've also noticed my member is constantly sore from all the stretching...maybe a good thing since I'm recovering in an elongated state w/ the PF.

PF Hours: 29.0
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I think experimenting and always changing things up keeps our bodies guessing and therefore unable to resist :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;753703 said:
I think experimenting and always changing things up keeps our bodies guessing and therefore unable to resist :)
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Keep the cock guessing and the cock will continue to grow!
 
Today I did some good manual stretching in the morning (mostly bundled DLD blasters and lig stretches), wore the PF after w/ bathroom stretches (mainly rotary stretches and bundled stretches).
I also managed to wear the PF on one side the entire today without switching...had some discomfort around hour 5, but it wasn't anything I couldn't handle so I powered through it and the pain eventually subsided. The goal is to get comfortable enough with the PF so I can wear it at night...right now that goal is impossible lol.
In the evening, I warmed up as usual and did 23 mins of slow jelqing (which felt great!). Tried edging with the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]flesh light[/words]...didn't last long at all until I had to kegel to stop myself from finishing. I will gradually try to improve this time (officially recording after the jelqing session) but no rush...packing on size takes priority right now. Wore a cock ring after.

Hours in PF: 46.9
 
DeepSighted;753757 said:
Today I did some good manual stretching in the morning (mostly bundled DLD blasters and lig stretches), wore the PF after w/ bathroom stretches (mainly rotary stretches and bundled stretches).
I also managed to wear the PF on one side the entire today without switching...had some discomfort around hour 5, but it wasn't anything I couldn't handle so I powered through it and the pain eventually subsided. The goal is to get comfortable enough with the PF so I can wear it at night...right now that goal is impossible lol.
In the evening, I warmed up as usual and did 23 mins of slow jelqing (which felt great!). Tried edging with the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]flesh light[/words]...didn't last long at all until I had to kegel to stop myself from finishing. I will gradually try to improve this time (officially recording after the jelqing session) but no rush...packing on size takes priority right now. Wore a cock ring after.

Hours in PF: 46.9
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Doing all the right stuff! The [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] is a brilliant tool, nothing can get you to last longer! So happy you are getting all the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] use in, it will pay off!
 
Great day yesterday!

Started off with the typical morning routine...warm up, bundled stretches, bundled DLD blasters and lig stretches, warm-down.

Now I got to thinking...I was used a sock as a means to minimize the discomfort the PF causes at the base of the penis...however, I still felt discomfort for any extended amount of time. I was using the sock to cover the entire circumference of the base, and not just one side. So I thought, this probably isn't necessary? So I folded the sock two for times for added thickness, and added another folded sock to the same side which the PF was facing for the day. The result? 3.5 hours of no discomfort at the base, only had to remove because I had to goto the bathroom. I finally found my ticket to using the PF at night!

Evening: [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] (base-intensity session): warm-up(shower), bundled stretches, warm up [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] set to 8.5 mark, then 4 sets of 5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sets at 8.5 mark, super set with ULI. Decent expansion, minimal fluid retention. Cock ring after.

Night: PF with the double folded sock. Woke up 4.5 hours in w/ slight discomfort at the head, but after a quick bathroom trip with a stretch, I placed with PF back on in the opposite direction, went back to bed and didn't wake up again until I got up for real.

At this point, the only time my penis won't be extended w/ the PF or supported w/ a cock ring will be when I'm working out, going out drinking, or w/ my future gf. This weekend, I'll mess around w/ the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] to see if I can make any headway for my wrapping technique...

Hours in PF: 61.5
 
I remember reading an old thread by DLD, where he was all anxious to do PE, and ended up doing it in a hot attic; as a result, ending up all flustered and sweaty (but satisfied lol). At the time, I thought that was humorous....but for real I'm starting to become more and more addicted to PE. Like after a heavy deadlifting session, I was practically bouncing up the stairs to my apartment because I was so ready for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. PE has become therapeutic for me...as soon as I sat down in the shower to start my testicle massages, I felt soooo relieved haha.

Anyways, so last night I only ended up with the PF on for 2 hours...I've noticed that I still feel some discomfort when the PF is strapped to the right. Coincidentally, my penis tilts to the left naturally...interesting.

Also, I've decided to do away with the dedicated [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words]/jelq day for now. Getting the complete package will come later...right now I really want to try for size. As such, I will alternate between a high-intensity [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]/SSJ day w/ shorter sets with a baseline intensity [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]/ULI day for longer sets, and do [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretches on the baseline intensity day. For the first time today, I did the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretches. They were intense; also, I noticed that my balls were mega enlarged after I was done. I mean, they typically always get enlarged since I pack them into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as well, but I feel like the Hardcore stretches magnified this effect somehow.

Oh! I also got some Theraband the other day. I cut a piece and carry it around with me in my pocket throughout the day. That way I can use it every time I take the PF off and do my bathroom stretches...it really makes a difference.

Hours in PF: 74.3
 
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DeepSighted;753883 said:
I remember reading an old thread by DLD, where he was all anxious to do PE, and ended up doing it in a hot attic; as a result, ending up all flustered and sweaty (but satisfied lol). At the time, I thought that was humorous....but for real I'm starting to become more and more addicted to PE. Like after a heavy deadlifting session, I was practically bouncing up the stairs to my apartment because I was so ready for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. PE has become therapeutic for me...as soon as I sat down in the shower to start my testicle massages, I felt soooo relieved haha.
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I can look back on it now and laugh but at the time I was in hell! That was a very tough day :)
 
So I don't know how tf I measured BPEL in the past, but it was apparantly very wrong. I knew something was up...I didn't feel close to 8" BPEL by any means lol.
With that being said, I measured last night, and now have a way more humble, accurate base to start measuring length (measured w/ wooden ruler, from the top).

BPFSL: 8.0" (from top)
BPEL: 7.35" (from top)
MSEG: 5.6"
BG: 6.0"

Made some slight gains w/ girth...if only my mid shaft and base girth were the same haha. This month, I'll be looking for any length gains the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] brings, as well as another possible 0.1" gains in MSEG....let's work!!!

Hours in PF: 121.5
 
So, I've my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] has been leaking pressure recently as I approach the higher pressures. This was extremely frustrating...I think my vacu-vin stoppers are starting to go bad for whatever reason?
So I ordered replacements, but they were going to take 3 days to get here, and I certainly didn't want to skip out on girth exercises in the meantime. Then I got inspired.

About a week ago, I was browsing [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Fleshlight[/words]'s website, looking for another [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fleshlight[/words] so I could cut the one I had and do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Expressive Stretching. Then I saw this bad girl:
https://www.fleshlight.com/collections/fleshskins/products/fleshskins-blue-ice-with-case

I thought this would be perfect for the expressive stretch, since you could use it as the upper hand to provide stimulation. When it arrived, I couldn't quite figure out how to do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Expressive Stretch (it was my first time trying) so I kind of put the idea to the side. I didn't mind too much...because that Fleshskin feels AMAZING. It doesn't need to be warmed or anything...just add lube and control the pressure with the applying hand. I immediately put it to good use; I was having trouble getting a hard erection quickly into the later sets of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], but using the Fleshskin, I could get an erection quickly, even after the last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] set. And I didn't have to worry about keeping it warm, like I was having to do with my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Fleshlight[/words] in-between [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] sets.

So, a day ago, I got an idea: why not use the Fleshskin to perform the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]? And it works very well! Sometimes, I loose good hardness too early in a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] set; with the Fleshskin, I use the applying hand both to apply pressure at the top, and provide stimulation when needed, so I never had to worry about erection quality w/ the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words].

I then got the idea of a 'continuous' [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], where you do a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] with the Fleshskin, but when my penis starts loosing a good amount of length/hardness, I let up just a little bit at the base hand that's clamping, and apply slight stimulation with the Fleshskin. More blood re-enters the penis, but I don't let up too much with the base hand so that I loose all trapped blood that I had previous. I clamp back hard again, and continue with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]. Sometimes, after 3 or so cycles of this, I found that it was just better to remove the Fleshskin, give my member 4 or 5 strokes, and that was enough to get me 100% hard again (something about the different type of stimulation made me immediately hard). I then continued where I left off. When the base clamping hand starts to get tired, I just twirl the Fleshskin around so that the hand holds are on the other side, and just switch hands.

I've done this for 2 days so far, and both days I've had comparable expansion to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at the end, but with NO FLUID RETENTION which is the biggest seller for me. In terms of raw expansion, nothing beats the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], but at extreme pressures, fluid retention is unavoidable for me, even doing very short sets at maximum pressure.

Today, I did 10 minutes of slow jelqing, followed by 20 minutes of Continuous [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], put on a cock ring right after then warmed down with a hot towel. I will wear the cock ring for about 2 ish hours, then right back into the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] I go! Just because I'm curious if this is a viable method, I plan on replacing my high intensity [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session w/ the Continuous [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], and only use my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Hardcore Stretch days for the month of April.

Hours in PF: 140.6
 
ya sounds interesting, has anyone had any experience with the flashlight, does it feel good?? Also do you get better Erection quality after using it for a few days?
 
Mlathem;754179 said:
ya sounds interesting, has anyone had any experience with the flashlight, does it feel good?? Also do you get better Erection quality after using it for a few days?
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The [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] is the best tool to prevent premature ejaculation. It feel just like the real deal and with practice you can last as long as you like in bed. It is very worth the investment if you are looking to last longer in bed.
 
Well, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is 100% useless now.
The replacement vacu-vin heads came in today, so I thought I was good to go. Pumped to semi-high pressure, and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] immediately started loosing pressure, and came off within 15 seconds, and this was without me even pulling on it.

Any ideas of what's up?
 
DeepSighted;754264 said:
Well, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is 100% useless now.
The replacement vacu-vin heads came in today, so I thought I was good to go. Pumped to semi-high pressure, and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] immediately started loosing pressure, and came off within 15 seconds, and this was without me even pulling on it.

Any ideas of what's up?
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I will let BSA answer you, he is the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] mod specialist!
 
DeepSighted;754264 said:
Well, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is 100% useless now.
The replacement vacu-vin heads came in today, so I thought I was good to go. Pumped to semi-high pressure, and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] immediately started loosing pressure, and came off within 15 seconds, and this was without me even pulling on it.

Any ideas of what's up?
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diagnosing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] is relatively easy due to its simplicity. if you're losing suction, it has to either be from The VV valve or the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] (or how it's sealing against your pelvis, but since you're a vet, this shouldn't be the case).

so let's do some trouble-shooting:

find a flat, hard surface (I use my granite countertop in the kitchen, but any solid surface will suffice). Create a seal by pressing The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] down to determine if you're able to get it to attach. If not, check for leaks around the tip where your VV valve is located...make certain it's seated properly and held-in by something (I use a rubber washer, like the plumbers use). If it's secure, check for leaks around the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]...if it's not leaking in either place, use your VV pump to try and increase the pressure and compress the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] against the surface. Go until the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] is completely compressed and then look/listen for any leaking or loss of pressure. It's possible the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] has developed a hole, but it's pretty hearty, so I'm guessing it's where the VV valve and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] tip meet.

If you have a more specific description of the issue, I could be more helpful :) good luck!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;754313 said:
diagnosing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] is relatively easy due to its simplicity. if you're losing suction, it has to either be from The VV valve or the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] (or how it's sealing against your pelvis, but since you're a vet, this shouldn't be the case).

so let's do some trouble-shooting:

find a flat, hard surface (I use my granite countertop in the kitchen, but any solid surface will suffice). Create a seal by pressing The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] down to determine if you're able to get it to attach. If not, check for leaks around the tip where your VV valve is located...make certain it's seated properly and held-in by something (I use a rubber washer, like the plumbers use). If it's secure, check for leaks around the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]...if it's not leaking in either place, use your VV pump to try and increase the pressure and compress the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] against the surface. Go until the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] is completely compressed and then look/listen for any leaking or loss of pressure. It's possible the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] has developed a hole, but it's pretty hearty, so I'm guessing it's where the VV valve and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] tip meet.

If you have a more specific description of the issue, I could be more helpful :) good luck!
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Thanks for the advice. I placed my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] on a hard surface, and it didn't have much issue initially sticking to it. When I started pumping tho, it really couldn't compress. I suspect the issue may be in the vv valves...it comes up slightly when I lift the pump up. Could you send a pic of how you are holding your vv valves in place, with a link to the rubber washer you use?
 
DeepSighted;754371 said:
Thanks for the advice. I placed my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] on a hard surface, and it didn't have much issue initially sticking to it. When I started pumping tho, it really couldn't compress. I suspect the issue may be in the vv valves...it comes up slightly when I lift the pump up. Could you send a pic of how you are holding your vv valves in place, with a link to the rubber washer you use?
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I'll try and take a pic this evening when I get home, but will try to describe how my VV is attached. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] has a valve at the tip where there's a small 'slot' that I accessed to pry the whole assembly off thus leaving an opening at the top of the cylinder. The VacuVin valve fits almost perfectly in this opening, but requires just a bit of packing to hold it in place while upside-down during the filling. What I used was a simple rubber washer (O-ring) and it's only a 'friction' mount. Very simple and you could probably use a thick rubber-band, (or any other piece of water-proof material) to wedge the valve in place.
Let me know how you make out
 
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