I've been wanting to post a thread on this a while now. After reading the powerifting on EQ thread and I want to start my own discussion without hijacking the thread.I'd like to keep this thread OPEN minded and not turn into a debate on fitness and health on EQ but dissect the specific area at hand.IMPORTANT. I'm not saying not to do kegels, and even people that I'm am quoting are not saying stop to necessarily. We know they have there place.
There Is a big trend amongst women, and lots of mens groups with people with hard flaccid, ED, and other PE forums fixing there issues with squats and stop doing kegels. What first got my attention was on a famous body building forum MANY people state how they fixed their premature ejaculation, ED, EQ, and would have random erections once they started working out. We all know better overall fitness is good on EQ.But I always wanted to pinpoint exactly why. Everyone has a theory but nobody knows exactly why. They all chaulked it to higher test from working out but a huge majority stated it only change onec they started squatting and deadlifting. As most know squats and deads target the postieor chain.So I googled squats with other terms until I did squats and pelvic floor then I found a lot is results. One of the biggest topics on any PE forum is "Pelvic floor balance" and how you need reverse kegels to balance out your pelvic floor.We often here how people with get premature ejaculation and other issues when starting kegels because the are making your pelvic floor tighter not stronger. But why does only effect some people and make others better? I think a clues lies in this quote.
"A Kegel attempts to strengthen the pelvic floor, but it really only continues to pull the sacrum inward promoting even more weakness, and more PF gripping. The muscles that balance out the anterior pull on the sacrum are the glutes. A lack of glutes (having no butt) is what makes this group so much more susceptible to pelvic floor disorder (PFD). Zero lumbar curvature (missing the little curve at the small of the back) is the most telling sign that the pelvic floor is beginning to weaken. An easier way to say this is: Weak glutes + too many Kegels = PFD"
This is why for some kegels make things worse and reverse kegels don't work at all for.How often do some people say the feel kegel in there tail bone and even had back soreness from kegeling? That is the kegel pulling your sacrum and coccyx. That is some proof of a connection. Without the counter balance it causes the pelvic floor for some to always be tight cause its always pulling in with nothing pulling against it. The pelvic floor should be like a hamcok and taut on both sides. This IMO is true pelvic floor balance and not reverse kegels.
Squats besides targeting the glutes for sacrum pull, effects the pelvic floor and body in these ways.
The action of the bottom of the squat stretches the pelvic floor as whole and increases circulation.It.acts like a reverse kegel.
The intra abdominal pressure from lifitng and squating causes much greater pressure and strain on the pelvic floor making your pelvic floor work much harder than the strongest kegel ever could.You can not squat without the pelvic floor contracting to support your body making it work harder than kegels.
Heavy squatting is consider one of the most taxing exercises on the CNC as it recruits the largest muscles in the body. This causes the body to create more testosterone. CNC stress isn't always a bad thing.
Poor posture, tight muscles from sitting all day has caused a lot of western people to basiclly have what some call "glute amnesia" and other muscles take over causing muscle imbalance and your ass to basically shut off. Here is a neat fact. Your glutes are the largest and most powerful muscle in your body .Google it.But how often do you see men with flat asses and over developed quads. That is me to a T. If your glutes where firing all the time like they should a lot of issues we have wouldn't be around or greatly reduced the severity. Please disscus, correct, challenge me and all this. Everything I have posted can be found googling "squats and pelvic floor"
There Is a big trend amongst women, and lots of mens groups with people with hard flaccid, ED, and other PE forums fixing there issues with squats and stop doing kegels. What first got my attention was on a famous body building forum MANY people state how they fixed their premature ejaculation, ED, EQ, and would have random erections once they started working out. We all know better overall fitness is good on EQ.But I always wanted to pinpoint exactly why. Everyone has a theory but nobody knows exactly why. They all chaulked it to higher test from working out but a huge majority stated it only change onec they started squatting and deadlifting. As most know squats and deads target the postieor chain.So I googled squats with other terms until I did squats and pelvic floor then I found a lot is results. One of the biggest topics on any PE forum is "Pelvic floor balance" and how you need reverse kegels to balance out your pelvic floor.We often here how people with get premature ejaculation and other issues when starting kegels because the are making your pelvic floor tighter not stronger. But why does only effect some people and make others better? I think a clues lies in this quote.
"A Kegel attempts to strengthen the pelvic floor, but it really only continues to pull the sacrum inward promoting even more weakness, and more PF gripping. The muscles that balance out the anterior pull on the sacrum are the glutes. A lack of glutes (having no butt) is what makes this group so much more susceptible to pelvic floor disorder (PFD). Zero lumbar curvature (missing the little curve at the small of the back) is the most telling sign that the pelvic floor is beginning to weaken. An easier way to say this is: Weak glutes + too many Kegels = PFD"
This is why for some kegels make things worse and reverse kegels don't work at all for.How often do some people say the feel kegel in there tail bone and even had back soreness from kegeling? That is the kegel pulling your sacrum and coccyx. That is some proof of a connection. Without the counter balance it causes the pelvic floor for some to always be tight cause its always pulling in with nothing pulling against it. The pelvic floor should be like a hamcok and taut on both sides. This IMO is true pelvic floor balance and not reverse kegels.
Squats besides targeting the glutes for sacrum pull, effects the pelvic floor and body in these ways.
The action of the bottom of the squat stretches the pelvic floor as whole and increases circulation.It.acts like a reverse kegel.
The intra abdominal pressure from lifitng and squating causes much greater pressure and strain on the pelvic floor making your pelvic floor work much harder than the strongest kegel ever could.You can not squat without the pelvic floor contracting to support your body making it work harder than kegels.
Heavy squatting is consider one of the most taxing exercises on the CNC as it recruits the largest muscles in the body. This causes the body to create more testosterone. CNC stress isn't always a bad thing.
Poor posture, tight muscles from sitting all day has caused a lot of western people to basiclly have what some call "glute amnesia" and other muscles take over causing muscle imbalance and your ass to basically shut off. Here is a neat fact. Your glutes are the largest and most powerful muscle in your body .Google it.But how often do you see men with flat asses and over developed quads. That is me to a T. If your glutes where firing all the time like they should a lot of issues we have wouldn't be around or greatly reduced the severity. Please disscus, correct, challenge me and all this. Everything I have posted can be found googling "squats and pelvic floor"
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