Smertrios Chemical PE progress report!

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I finally after 2 years of reading about chemical pe and almost 3 months of let downs trying to get ahold of some PGE1 am able to give it a go! The first injection was by far the scariest as I did not know exactly what to expect at least not 100%. Several hours after the injection when I could see the effects wearing down I had a very good idea of what to expect in the future. In fact I injected 3 days in a row that was a bit much and I guess by knowing that I learned something =)... and what I learned is... every other day for injections...

I have injected 4 times now and have been experimenting with increasing amounts of PGE1. Its effect for me is not an uncontrollable boner its more like a "boner" that only needs 5% of "influence" to get really hard instead of 80%+ if that makes any sense. Once erect it stays erect for awhile before needing more "influence". This can last several hours then I start needing more and more "influence" between full erections. Seems like the more relaxed I am when I get an erection the longer it will last.

All in all its working great since I can maintain long duration erections with little effort and the "un-linking" effect of PGE1 on the collagen fibers of the penis can do its thing. Ohya I am also using Alprostadil transdermally and IGF1-LR3 when I remember to... have only used it with 1 injection thus far heh. The IGF1-LR3 is going to run out soon anyway I don't know if I will be getting more.

Day to day stuff I do that may be effecting any gains I may get...

Taking a testosterone supplement called "TestroZin" for increasing my test levels. I started taking the HiTech equivalent (2 products) of whats in TestroZin several weeks ago and when I needed more I ordered something different to see how it works. Less expensive and seems to be working just as well if not a bit better.

Basic aerobics I am doing just to work up [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and strength. I am kindova wimp and working on becoming a "shirty" heh (no offence to anyone) and the testosterone supplements have me confident I can put on some muscle while taking them.

For Chemical Penis Enlargement I will be doing a basic routine...

1: Injecting PGE1 how ever much I feel is needed to get a good effect
2: Applying Andractim on my penis
3: maintain a good erection for 3 hours

A side effect of the PGE1 is a "semi erection" for many hours following the initial 3 hours of erection. The semi varies greatly as to how erect it is from moment to moment sometimes going erect for a few minutes.
 
Great to see you finally got everything together. It might be really frustrating in the beginning but stick with it. It's been 2 months for me and I'm JUST starting to settle into a consistent schedule with predictable erections.
 
Smertrios said:
Ohya I am also using Alprostadil transdermally .
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How it works ????? Does it give you a long Time Boner too ? Compared to the injectable Version what are the Differences ???? ,,,,,,
 
I'm not clear... are you applying the IGF transdermally or injecting?? If you are applying it transdermally, then i wouldn't bother as that's a waste.

Good luck... :)
 
Yeah, IGF needs to be injected since it's such a big molecule. I might hold off on it until you get injections down, cause I think the risk of fibrosis is slightly higher (from the acetic acid). Send me some PM's when you run into problems with your routine and I'll try to help out.
 
spinner2 said:
Yeah, IGF needs to be injected since it's such a big molecule. I might hold off on it until you get injections down, cause I think the risk of fibrosis is slightly higher (from the acetic acid). Send me some PM's when you run into problems with your routine and I'll try to help out.
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You are right, but you can reconstitute with BA water if you use the 100mcg kits. Have you considered Penis EnlargementGylated-MGF as well?
 
goldmember said:
You are right, but you can reconstitute with BA water if you use the 100mcg kits. Have you considered Penis EnlargementGylated-MGF as well?
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I hadn't considered it, but I'll research it some. I'll send you a PM after I have some questions on it.
 
PGE1 seems to have lasting effects that go beyond just the first few hours of injection. Even 48 hours after the initial injection my erections are fuller, more rigid and easier to get than usual. "normal" girth from before I started injecting was around 5" or a little less than that but since injecting with PGE1 my girth is slightly more than 5-1/4".

Some of that extra 1/4" is from swolen skin but I am almost certain not all of it is. Length I have not measured I should have done that before injecting but seems longer and definitely more rigid!

Injecting is a breeze but not sure about my technique. I am slow to push the needle as I am still scared of the needle =P. Can take 10+ second for me to get it through the tunica or so it seems anyway. The technique is this... Pull penis out, pick a spot, start pushing it in. When it hits the tunica it can be very difficult to push through so I twirl the needle a little to work it through. Its obvious when the needle has punctured the tunica because the dent in my skin and tunica pops up on the needle shaft.

So far I like it... Might be everything I expect it to be! Should get a log started so when done I can post it and show the different things I was doing.
 
I had a bad injection day today! I injected into the right side and...... NOTHING! I must not have made it through the CC. I waited a couple hours to make sure and when there was still no effect I injected on the left side. This is making me reconsider using an injector but don't know if its worth it I have a mental block preventing me from even considering them for some reason.

Todays injection went like this...

Inject right side... nothing
inject left side... 15 minute erection then a partial for 45
took a [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] RX and got a decent erection
wrapped a shoestring around my cock and balls

Worked pretty good but that [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Stamina[/words] RX with the PGE1 was almost too much I was getting worried walking around with a nearly full erection 2 hours after I thought I was done! The shoestring is something I will likely do again the really hard erection will be awesome for girth.

Just FYI I measured today and BP measurement fully erect is 6-3/4, girth is 5-1/4. These are both measurments taken the day after a Penis Enlargement session. The length seems about right maybe slightly longer than pre Penis Enlargement size but I believe the girth expanded 1/4 inch over normal pre Penis Enlargement size.
 
If you inject and there's no effect then it's not always safe to give yourself another full injection. That's the easiest way to overdose and give yourself a priapism. It's usually better to just inject the next day when this happens.
 
Have noticed a sharp dropoff in erection quality this last week or rather the lack of a chemically induced erection with today being the first complete lack of an erection. I guess it might be possible I hit a vein inside the CC but I really doubt that could have happened without me noticing bulging veins all over my penis =P... my guess is that the PGE1 has finally fizzled out and its time to mix a new batch. Been about 3 weeks but only the first 1-1/2 maybe 2 weeks appeared to be full strength.

Just FYI: I mixed the PGE1 and it sat out at room temp for a couple hours on the first day. Other than that its been in the fridge 100% of the time excluding the time it takes me to draw off a few IU's every 2 days...
 
My computer got a key-logger viruss and in a pure act of panic I formatted my computer... lost a few details like where I bought my PGE1. Finding it initially was not difficult I was searching for an importer. When I found one I asked for a quote and sent them a digital wad of money. Turned out to be a US address that billed and shipped it to me just FYI.

To be honest I don't want to give out a source for my own reasons the first of which is that the general information I have is telling me that that selling PGE1 without a script is illegal. I seriously think I may have just slipped through a virtual crack so to speak (assuming its illegal I have not and prolly will not ever check).

If I had it to do over I would *LOVE* to get a bunch of .2-1 mg vials to reconstitute at will... Was thinking about buying and re-selling for a tight profit (still huge savings for those that can't/won't buy in bulk). That was until all the talk about it being illegal squashed my plans (checking the legalness was part of the "plan" but never made it out of the "just thinking about it" phase =P). Reason for .2 mg vials is that it doesn't last long after reconstitution and that .2 would be a gods plenty for most people assuming 2 weeks is the average life of the PGE1 before it starts degrading fast.

EDIT: Did not mention this and the whole time writing this I had another post I made in mind but neglected to put some important information in this post about it... I bought a whopping amount of powder PGE1 and its all in 1 vial. It would be soooooooooo much more convenient and consistent to have pre-measured vials.
 
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I googled laws reguarding PGE1 and found some interesting information but can't be used for law checking. Basically it said PGE1 is not illegal to sell as long as no intent is implied to how it should be used but things live Caverject and Muse are illegal to sell without a script not because they contain PGE1 but because they can contain other chemicals and are medical products intended for human use.

To further understand a poster compared a medical [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] to a pump you buy on ebay. The medical [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] *is* illegal to sell without a script but only because it is a "medical device" (and the illegalness is mostly aimed at requirements in place because of insurance companies and the medical industry). The pumps being sold on eBay are not recognized as medical devices and thus not regulated even tho they would appear to be similar (eBay pumps are better anyway heh).

Could be BS I have no idea was just something I read on a dead forum that had no posts since July this year... And not many posts total from what I saw!

That said I searched google beyond this one link and could not find anything saying PGE1 was regulated...
 
Took 5 days off of my chemical Penis Enlargement routine and came back with a new better way to do it I think. I inject like normal but use a wrap right after injecting to help hold the pge1 in the CC for around the first 1/2 hour. This can get pretty intense giving anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8" of girth expansion from the constriction (its not super tight but with PGE1 it does not have to be).

Reason for taking the wrap off is that after about 1/2 hour it starts to feel less like a stetch and more like a pain. Not bad but enough I take it as a warning to stop. Its only semi-erect immediately following removal of the wrap but that quickly changes to a full erection that lasts and lasts. In fact I believe it is a priapism as I have to work on it for 1/2 hour 45 minutes after the 3 hour self imposed time limit is up or it wont go down... not hard to get rid of the erection tho as a few seconds of squats every few minutes eventually make it subside enough that I'm left with a semi for a couple hours.

Injections are much easier now as the "pinch" feeling is not so hard to resist (it has stopped me from injecting before its a serious mental block for me sometimes heh). I am even injecting further up from the base now where the CC is much more sensitive to the injection punctures.

So basically now my routine has gone from the following...

Inject and then try to maintain an erection for 3 hours and do this every 2 days

to...

Inject, Wrap, un-wrap wait 2-1/2 hours, make the erection subside and do this every 2 days

Actually I left an important detail out... I am setting my alarm clock so I can do this in the morning I actually sleep for 2-1/2 hours of this =P. Reason being is that even tho I can make it subside after 3 hours laying down is all it takes to get another erection so I have to time it so that when I am done I wont be sleeping any further. Doesn't take as much time out of my day this way either...

Hydromaxm just had a thought about the injections and maybe the reason I believe they are "easier" is that I am just waking up when I do it heh oh well just making a progress report...

no gains to report as of yet
 
Another perfect chemical Penis Enlargement session. I injected, wrapped but only for about 20 minutes because the wrap was uncomfortable, slept about 2-1/2 hours... was 45 minutes after the 3 hours was up and the erection was gone.

This "new method" of chemical Penis Enlargement gives me much more consistent results as I can count on having a 3 hour hard erection each and every time. At least that is how its been the previous 3 injections. The first months injections varied from a mostly erect 3 hours that took quite a bit of work on my part (typical) to not getting a chemical erection at all.
 
No plans to add anything I'm going to give it another month and see what happens. If I get no gains again I will start adding more to my routine. I really think I will get gains this month however...
 
I think it's a great idea to fall asleep and set your alarm. Let us know how that goes. If length is your main goal, you might want to consider an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to add to your routine.
 
I have not been stretching but just to experiment today I stretched for maybe 2 minutes and wore a vac-extender for the first hour and started to get an decent ache. Knowing that I still had at least a couple hours and the ache would likely get stronger as time goes on I took it off and got some sleep.

When I woke up to my alarm clock (for the second time) I noticed I had a really decent ache. Also took almost 1-1/2 hours for the erection to go down this time I was really getting worried but as always it did subside. I am going to incorporate stretching for a few minutes and experiment with the intensity.

I am also sticking with the 20+ minutes of wrap and/or a cockring to keep the PGE1 in the CC as I think its imperative for me to get more consistent erections. I have 4 cockrings on the way each one has something different about it but mostly interested in the lasso type rubber cockring with the bead to adjust the tension and the 2" o-ring.

Cockrings from place I bought from...
http://www.iysextoys.com/buy/sex_toys_for_men/7.html

I did a quick google search and www.iysextoys.com was lowest price and had a fair sized selection. Some places had the exact same things for 2-3x the price! I bought 4 "cockrings" and 6oz of silicone lube... the lube almost costs more than the cockrings LOL
 
Don't stretch while you have the erection, just do 30 minutes of stretching every morning. 75% SD and the other 25% distributed evenly SO, SU, left, and right.
 
If you are able to deal with the discomfort, do the stretching immediately after your erection subsides. Otherwise, wait as long as necessary for the pain to dissipate and then do your stretches.
 
goldmember;278805 said:
If you are able to deal with the discomfort, do the stretching immediately after your erection subsides. Otherwise, wait as long as necessary for the pain to dissipate and then do your stretches.
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You need to wait a few hours, because you're still semi for a while after the erection subsides. It is good to do the stretching as soon as possible after injection, though.
 
why not inject while stretching? i havent done it, but it seems that if your penis isnt too thin while stretched it would be the ultimate time. than leave the hanger on for another 15min or so, and once its off you should be gettin pretty erect by that point.

so is it more beneficial to hang before or after pge-1 injection?
 
Hang afterward if possible. I think stretching before would temporarily toughen the tunica, making injection difficult and/or painful.
 
That's been my experience with it. If you stretch too much before you inject on a day, then you're going to 'miss' your injection.
 
kushextender;278811 said:
why not inject while stretching? i havent done it, but it seems that if your penis isnt too thin while stretched it would be the ultimate time. than leave the hanger on for another 15min or so, and once its off you should be gettin pretty erect by that point.

so is it more beneficial to hang before or after pge-1 injection?
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This won't work. The stretching itself won't be more beneficial in the minutes before injection because the PGE-1 hasn't had it's effect on collagen yet. Furthermore stretching while injecting will force blood out of the CC's and make the injection itself very tricky. After that the PGE-1 will be forced into the bloodstream before it can be 'trapped' in the CC's by an erection.
 
I ordered an "AutoJect 2" on eBay just now. I'm hoping it will remove all anxiety I get while injecting... I still push the needle in but it sucks as sometimes it feels like I have lost almost all strength in my hand and arm its crazyness =P (I have actually dropped the needle after pushing it in once!). This injection tool is susposeto make injections easier by pushing the needle in and depressing the plunger on the syringe.

My hope is that with the speed the needle is pushed in I won't feel it much at all... Kinda worried at the speed the syringe is depressed but I'm guessing it won't be fast enough to cause a problem.
 
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AutoJect2 arrived today I was excited... until about 10 minutes ago when I relized it would not work as well as I thought. I guess it worked tho I had a perfect manual injection today for whatever reason all "anxiety" or rather fear of a pain that doesn't happen is gone =)

Only new progress I have to report is that the girth expansion I get from the "wrap" I have been doing for the first 20 minutes after injection is lasting longer and longer. When I first started the 1/4" of girth expansion I would get would only last a few hours after injection now its lasting upto the next injection which is 2 days later and its about 3/8" over what it is normally. Well 3/8" after the 20 minutes of wearing the wrap but 1/4" is lasting upto the next injection rather.
 
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I use the AutoJect2 and it works perfect for me... it makes the injection perfectly painless and a no-brainer. Why didn't it work for you??
 
I am a wimp with the AutoJect2 I guess as I seem to loose the ability to push the button! I worry about what it feels like or if it will go too deep.
 
Smertrios;279778 said:
I am a wimp with the AutoJect2 I guess as I seem to loose the ability to push the button! I worry about what it feels like or if it will go too deep.
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try to do deep breathing and on the exhale press the button. I had that fear for the first while as well. It's perfectly natural.
 
As long as you set the needle to only go past the tip of the Autoject by about 1/4" and place the tip lightly over your shaft... you don't ever have to worry about going too deep. It is so fast that it pokes and injects the solution in less than one second. The worst part about the whole experience is the pop sound of the AutoJect when you push the button.
 
well just wouldn't make much sense. it would in intramuscular injections, but not intracavernosally. There's too much space there for the speed of injection to matter. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I just had a bad manual injection tonight I am going to have to use the autoject2! I thought I had the needle all the way into the CC but ended up with a bubble of the solution under my skin instead. It felt right while injecting but wasn't =P

I am almost 100% certain it would be impossible to get the same kind of "bad injection" using the autoject2 since the surface of the CC with the blood behind it would not have enough time to move with the needle thus the needle penetrates rather than sits on the surface.

@Sikdogg, @spinner2 - Do you hold your autoject2 against your penis to dis-engage the "safety"? When I hold it against my penis its like the whole CC chamber is pressed flat and bent at an angle. No matter how hard I am pulling on the glans! I thought a piece of electrical tape to hold the 2 pieces of the autoject2's safety together would effectively dis-engage the safety so that I could inject without pressing hard.
 
I use an inject-ease. You press the plunger down yourself, so you can play around with depth first to make sure you hit your injections.
 
Smertrios;280381 said:
... Do you hold your autoject2 against your penis to dis-engage the "safety"? When I hold it against my penis its like the whole CC chamber is pressed flat and bent at an angle. No matter how hard I am pulling on the glans! I thought a piece of electrical tape to hold the 2 pieces of the autoject2's safety together would effectively dis-engage the safety so that I could inject without pressing hard.
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I used to also use the Inject-ease but i like the AutoJect so much more... taping the two pieces is actually a great idea... what i'm doing now is i hold the lower piece with my ring and pinkie finger and hold the upper piece with my index and middle finger. I place the needle end lightly against the shaft and use my thumb to release the injection. The process is so fast that i rarely ever feel anything.
 
Another update... I have been consistent with the every other day injections and maintain the erection for 3+ hours. Zero length gains still and only a bit more girth =< I must be a very tough gainer but I will keep at it.

Even tho I still get the chemical erections with solution over a month old I am thinking that for successful chemical Penis Enlargement I really need to be using new PGE1 solutions for each injection. I wish I had a way to break up my vial of PGE1 better... (my PGE1 **really** looses its CC expanding "kick" after about the first week even tho its still good for getting a great erection that will last and last).

I am thinking about going back to the "suck and release" pumping and/or trying new solution every injection day for a month to see how that goes... problem with using new mix for me is how I have to titrate for just about every new bottle of PGE1 I mix up since I can't measure the mix accurately =<

Be really nice if there was cheaper PGE1 I could be using "new" for each injection.
 
Smertrios;287763 said:
Another update... I have been consistent with the every other day injections and maintain the erection for 3+ hours. Zero length gains still and only a bit more girth =< I must be a very tough gainer but I will keep at it.

Even tho I still get the chemical erections with solution over a month old I am thinking that for successful chemical Penis Enlargement I really need to be using new PGE1 solutions for each injection. I wish I had a way to break up my vial of PGE1 better... (my PGE1 **really** looses its CC expanding "kick" after about the first week even tho its still good for getting a great erection that will last and last).

I am thinking about going back to the "suck and release" pumping and/or trying new solution every injection day for a month to see how that goes... problem with using new mix for me is how I have to titrate for just about every new bottle of PGE1 I mix up since I can't measure the mix accurately =<

Be really nice if there was cheaper PGE1 I could be using "new" for each injection.
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Have you been stretching 30 minutes a day? As long as you're still getting 3+ hour erections it means the PGE-1 is effective, so don't worry about switching it out every week.

I picked up like 3/8" in 4 months total of chemical Penis Enlargement. The gains were definitely better than before I was injecting.
 
Why don't you just buy Caverject? it'll be 'new' every time and each one i heard can be used 2-3 times. and it will cost you around $20 per needle.

My routine has been entirely different, as I've recently been an advocate of 'less is more'. Simply because when i do less i gain more. I won't say anything of my gains or of my routine until I'm a little bit farther down the line. Interesting news to say the least.

And Smert, don't forget the stretches, and SPenis EnlargementCIALLY the good old concept of ADSing
 
I would be using caverject if I didn't need a script and could actually get the syringes for $20... One thing I have noticed time and time again is that the people gaining well with Penis Enlargement are gym junkies! I can not say the same as my hardest workouts have been 7th grade Penis Enlargement (18 years ago)... I have said I would do it *then* for whatever reason I could think up I didn't (or rather mentally I would shove the idea of working out aside). I am going to give it a serious effort for a couple months to see what happens with my body and Penis Enlargement.

I bought "basic muscle builder stack" from http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/muscombo.htm . Also bought 6-OXO for a little something extra. Maybe the supplements, workout and more consistent diet I will be on can make the Penis Enlargement difference.
 
You've still never given us an answer on whether you're stretching. What I found is that if you don't stretch then you won't gain length.
 
I'm not stretching that is likely why I have not gained length =< Anyway I am going to try "Suck & Push" pumping using a special gadget plus an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for as long as I can during the day without getting blisters or fluid buildup.

The pump... basically air moving in and out of a penis tube that when in use and flaccid will make the glans look like it is jumping up and down in the tube. That said it seems much less extreme compared to regular pumping and/or the "suck and release" type of pumps *but* its my belief that the CC and tendon will get a more consistent fatigue this way.

The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]... vac-extender with the tension ever so slight so as to prevent fluid buildup.

For now I am going to give this a try and if it works out better for me I will post and start a new thread. I am sure I'm not done with Chemical Penis Enlargement I am just trying something new for awhile.
 
Smertrios , any growth?

I am considering trying this , but looks like no one ever came out and said they had a half way decent measurable gain which makes me wonder about that patent that was posted on here a few yrs ago showing these miracle 2 inch gains.
 
cyberstud25;302819 said:
Smertrios , any growth?

I am considering trying this , but looks like no one ever came out and said they had a half way decent measurable gain which makes me wonder about that patent that was posted on here a few yrs ago showing these miracle 2 inch gains.
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As to gains, I have gained so far 2 3/8" in length, and 1 1/8 in girth. It has taken 21 months so far to achieve this, but I did not do anything for 4+months because of health and family reasons.

Stretching for 30 minutes a day is an absolute necessity.

Using PGE-1 is dangerous for those that do not understand what it is and how it works. When you do understand those items, then it is safe.

Best of luck in your efforts.
 
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