Restorers-- Keeping Track of Progress

[kong1971]

Restorers, we need a universal way to keep track of our progress. I have posted a survey for uncut guys to fill out that will let us know what kind of skin to cock length we need, but we also need to know how much skin we have. Keeping track of our progress will let us know when we are doing something right and doing something wrong. Like Ex said, there is just not alot of documentation on restoration. I have seen men claiming to have restored in months, and some claiming to have restored in years. Everyone's doing different things. It's like the tower of babel in here. If we are all keeping track and someone cuts ahead of the pack, then we can figure out what they are doing that is working.

One thing we can also do is post our progress in our signatures.

We need to keep track of five things.

Erect Length of Penis {EL}

Flaccid Length of Penis {FL}

Length of outer skin {OL}

Length of inner skin {IL}

Total linear length of skin {TL}

If I stretch my skin and measure the outside from the base to the point where it folds in naturally like a foreskin, I get 4.75"

Inner is trickier. I placed a q-tip at the coronal ridge of my glans and then pulled the skin up over it. Stretching it a far as comfortable, I got a measurement of 1.5" inner tissue.

So my restoration measurements are:

{EL} 7.5"
{FL} 4.5"
{OL} 4.75
{IL} 1.5
{TL} 6.25

Compare this to Prince Albert, who has our holy grail, full erect coverage:

{EL} 7.5
{FL} 5
{OL} 8
{IL} 3
{TL} 11

I know this is not alot of data. I need more guys to fill out these surveys, but it can give us an idea of ratios, just going by me (loose cut) and Prince Albert (full erect coverage) here are some numbers I get.

Me: 6.25 {TL} / 7.5 {EL} = 83%

Prince Albert: 11 {TL} / 7.5 {EL} = 146%

Please participate in this thread by posting your status (loose, partial, full whatever) and TL/EL ratio.

I'd like to find out at what ratio we start getting full flaccid coverage, partial erect coverage etc. I am just starting to get some roll-over at 83% . I know these numbers are only approximates, but it can give us a rough idea.

 

[Priapologist]

Hey kong, great idea. I have only been restoring for about a month, and just started Penis Enlargement a few days ago, but I have made some gains.

3-17-05 -> 4-11-05
BPenis EnlargementL: 8" -> 8"
NBPenis EnlargementL: ? -> 7.5"
NBPFL: 4.25" -> 5"
OL: ? -> 6" root to circ scar*
IL: 0.75 -> 0.875" circ scar to sulcus*
TL: ? -> 6.875"

*My skin does not fold over yet, unless kept with a ring or tape, so I have used these measures for the time being.


Cheers!
G

 

[kong1971]

Going by your measurements, that would put your FR Ratio at 86%. I take it you were loose cut since you are just starting out. From the size of your dick, I would assume you are! 7.5 NBP is pretty friggin big. Thanks for participating, Grave. See you in the chat room!

 

[kong1971]

Remeasured my FR stats tonight after dumping the 24/7 routine a few days ago and noticed some surprising results.

My outer length and inner length both jumped a little. I don't think I measured wrong the other night. Rather, I think the rest allowed the skin to relax out alittle and stretch further. Anyway, my new numbers on [OL] and [IL] are 5 and 2 respectively. that puts me at a 93% ratio. I doubt if it jumps again. It is probably due to switching to a new, healthier routine. The skin is definitely softer and more pliant. I will measure again in a few more days and see.

 

[kleinerwichser]

Hey Kong!

Congratulations for your success! I really envy you...
I also would like to measure my progress, but don't know how to do this exactly. Can you explain it to me or post a link to some instrucions?
Do you measure while flacid or erect?
Already now, after 1 1/2 weeks (1 week of manual restoring), I can see some more skin, and the changes of my glans are just GREAT! Better color and better feeling already now! Orgasms are getting better and better! I will not stop until I reach my goal!

 

[Priapologist]

Going by your measurements, that would put your FR Ratio at 86%. I take it you were loose cut since you are just starting out. From the size of your dick, I would assume you are! 7.5 NBP is pretty friggin big. Thanks for participating, Grave. See you in the chat room!

Yes, I was loosely cut and still have a pretty decent amount of frenulum. Now that I am "training" it to, the skin will on some days slip forward on its own and cover about 1/3 of the glans, but most of the time it just bunches up behind the corona. My flaccid appearance is now a little thicker because of the extra/stretched skin.

Funny thing about size is that we all just report our raw numbers, and yeah, 7.5 NBP is big, but on me (6 feet, ~200 pounds with not a lot of fat) it looks proportionally normal (to me, anyway). Sitting amidst my big-ass pelvis and thighs, my dick doesn't look all that impressive :s.

Cheers!
G

 

[kong1971]

kleiner, stretch the skin taut and measure from base to c-scar. This is Outer Length [OL]. Now measure from glans to c-scar. This is Inner Length. [IL] Add the two numbers together. This is Total Length of skin. [TL]

To get your ratio, simply divide your [TL] by your erect length and convert to a percentage.

Example:

Dick has an [OL] of 6" and a [IL] of 2". Dick's [TL] then is 8".

Dick's dick is 7 inches long erect, measuring from top center.

8 / 7 = 1.14 or 114%

His FR Ratio is 114%. Dick's probably sitting at a good flaccid coverage state because we have seen that coverage starts happening somewhere around 80 to 90%. He's got a little ways to go for full erect coverage, which happens at around 140 to 160%.

This ratio eliminates cock size from the equation, letting everyone compare to each other and see how they are progressing.

As soon as everyone starts chipping in with their status and ratios, we will have a better idea of where things start happening as far as flaccid coverage, erect coverage, etc.

 

[MrD]

If I am correct the c- scar is the point where, if u pull ur dick when flaccid, the inner skin is divided from outer skin? Then if so these are my measurements

{FL} 4.75''
{EL} 7.5''
{OL} 3.5''
{IL} 1.5"
{TL} 5.0"

{TL} / {EL} = 66%

 

[kong1971]

Make sure you stretch the skin as far as comfortable when you measure your {OL} and {IL}. If you dont, you are going to get varying measurements.

If you did, then you must be cut pretty tight or have a really large glans. That's the lowest ratio I've seen so far.

 

[MrD]

ok i didnt stretch the skin as far as i can ill remeasure

{FL} 4.75''
{EL} 7.5''
{OL} 4.25''
{IL} 2.0''
{TL} 6.25

{TL} / {EL} = 83%

the flaccid length I didnt stretch I just measured standing up when it was flaccid.
If I Pull my flaccid dick as far as i can standing up without getting any discomfort i get the inner, outer, and total length numbers. However though our ratio may be similar I dont have a natural roll over yet. Its just bunched behind my glans.

 

[kong1971]

I corrected my measurements, too, which set me at a ratio of 93%, so you are just a little behind me. 83% seems to be a solid CI-3. Loose cut. Good place to start with plenty of skin to work on.

 

[MrD]

yea, I will do my manual stretches in a couple hours right before i go to sleep I do them once a day with high intensity with the rest of the day for rest. So i should in no time maybe have my first signs of unassisted coverage. And btw if u will post your updated measurements

 

[blabla182]

1) Erect penis Length (top center)__7____
2) Erect penis girth (mid-shaft)___5.50___
3) Flaccid penis Length__5___
4) Flaccid penis Girth___4.75__

5) When erect, my foreskin covers _0___ percent of the glans.

6) When flaccid, my foreskin covers _0___ percent of the glans.

7) When erect, my foreskin extends _0___ inches past the glans.

8) when flaccid, my foreskin extends __0__inches past the glans.

9) Length of outer foreskin tissue (place ruler top center of flaccid penis, then pull foreskin up as far as comfortable and measure this length)___4__

10) Length of inner foreskin tissue (this will probably be tricky if you have a tight fren. Try retracting if possible, or pull the foreskin up and slide something in like a q-tip that you can use to measure the length of the inner mucosal tissue for me. Do your best.)___1__

ohh boy im going to be doing this forever

 

[kong1971]

blabla, your ratio is 71%. You were tight cut just like me, weren't you? Curved penis, high balls...? Don't let it get you down. You can do it! Just 10% away from loose cut...

 

[kleinerwichser]

OL: 13cm / 5,12"
IL: 3cm / 1,2"
TL: 16cm / 6,3"
[words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words]: 10cm / 3,94"
EL: 18cm / 7,09"

TL / EL: 89%

OK, not that bad. But still a long way to go.
The foreskin doesn't yet cover the glans by it's own "will". But when I staid covered with an O-Ring or the upper thing of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] then it will stay there for 2 minutes or so. and then go back slowly. It seems to have a firm grip at it's end.

But it's good to know the coverage now, so I can keep an eye on my success (or not). We will see...

 

[Priapologist]

Oops.
I just noticed that I mixed my BPFL and NBPFL measurements in my earlier post.
Correction:
NBPFL: 4.25" -> 4.5"
BPFL: 4.75" -> 5.0"

G

 

[Priapologist]

New numbers:

TL: 7.125"
and
BPFSL: 8.375"

Cheers!
G

 

[kong1971]

Remeasured last night and inner length has grown by about 1/8 inch, making it about 2.15". Outer length has remained the same at 5". I still seem to be growing as well. My BPFSL last night was just shy of 8", top center-- which is kind of surprising, as I had been on a Penis Enlargement plateau for awhile. The manual stretches with plenty of rest do seem to be working pretty good. I can actually feel the difference in the looseness of the skin while...ahem...experimenting with myself.

My routine consists of manual stretches for at least 1 hour, using moderate force... almost enough to be painful but trying very hard not to injure the tissue. I am no longer using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] as my frenulum is regrowing and it has become painful for me to use it. I am just doing manuals and then cross taping to keep the skin very lightly stretched and the glans moist.

Attached is a couple pics of my expanding frenulum. Its not much, but its mine...and it is becoming very very sensitive...in a good way!

 

[MrD]

Thats amazing man Keep up the good progress. You cross tape right after you apply ur after session ointments then, thats what i do.

 

[Priapologist]

Nice fren kong

Keep up the good pla- I mean work.

 

[MDC]

Here's my numbers as of today. When I started FR 7 years ago I had 1/2" of inner, and I didn't measure the outer back then. I get periodic coverage of 50%, but usually it just bunches behind the glans.

{FL} 5-5.5'' (this must be it.. at 5" [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words] I have 50% coverage and at 5.5" I have none)
{EL} ~7.25'' (8" BPenis EnlargementL)
{OL} 5.0''
{IL} 2.25''
{TL} 7.25"

{TL} / {EL} = 100%

 

[Priapologist]

All measures NBP
[words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words]: 4.5
EL: 7.5
OL: 6.625
IL: 0.875
TL: 7.5

TL/EL = 1.0 or 100%

And, flaccid width has gone from 1.25 inches to 1.5 inches over the past six weeks. Too cool.

 

[kong1971]

I love to see a happy penis owner! KOT!

 

[Priapologist]

Here are my restoration pix, starting with at one week after beginning restoration. They are in order: week 1, week 3, week 4, and week 6 (hood down and hood up). I estimate that I was CI-2 before I began and I am now at early CI-4.

 

[MrD]

Nice man, keep up the good work. I think when i first started i was a Late C-2 im most likely a C-3 now. BTW whats your Updated Measurements.

 

[Priapologist]

As of last night:

(All measures NBP)
[words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words]: 4.5
EL: 7.5
OL: 6.625
IL: 0.9375
TL: 7.5625 (approximately )

TL/EL = 1.0083 or 101%

Flaccid width: 1.625 :O My erect width is only 0.25 inch bigger!

I am using the Captn's Wench almost exclusively for both Penis Enlargement and FR now. I use the silicone [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] every third day or so because it's easy to do bundled stretches with it, and I do a few manual tugs several times throughout the day. I have completely abandoned the rings/elastic bands because I noticed that they were making my Penis Enlargement length measurements shorter. A longer foreskin but shorter dick is not an option. Fortunately, the CW pulls the skin like a MF if I wear it toward the base, so I'm able to a really good Penis Enlargement + FR workout all at the same time, or shift it toward the glans and get a hard-core shaft workout.

 

[MDC]

{FL} 5-5.5''
{EL} ~7.25'' (8" BPenis EnlargementL)
{OL} 5.0''
{IL} 2.25''
{TL} 7.25"

{TL} / {EL} = 100%

New today. Numbers are the same except OL is up to 5.5"

TL = 7.75
EL = 7.25

106% - up 6% or 1/2" since 3 weeks ago.

 

[kong1971]

This progress is awesome guys. Great work. I am going to try to measure tonight if I get some privacy.

Priap, your progress pics make me seeth with jealousy. You look almost halfway done already.

 

[Priapologist]

This progress is awesome guys. Great work. I am going to try to measure tonight if I get some privacy.

Priap, your progress pics make me seeth with jealousy. You look almost halfway done already.

LOL! Thanks. I'm actually back down to CI-3 because of Penis Enlargement gains... and that sucks soooo much, eh?


(All measures NBP)
[words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words]: 4.75
EL: 7.75
OL: 6.5 (down ? )
IL: 1
TL: 7.5

TL/EL = 0.97 or 97%

I slacked on the FR during the first part of May since I was focused on Newbie Gainerz, then I had a lig pop on the 12th and I didn't do shit for several days (freaked me out). I think that the OL went down because of the lack of activity, but, oddly, my IL went up to 1 inch... go figure.

 

[MDC]

I've been taking cialis a few times recently. Nice effects like additional 3/4" flaccid hang makes FR progress impossible to judge.

Thanks to this thread I took measurments last month!

 

[MDC]

New today. Numbers are the same except OL is up to 5.5"

TL = 7.75
EL = 7.25

106% - up 6% or 1/2" since 3 weeks ago.

Since I was thinking about it this morning, I measured again.

Last measurment was on 5/17, and today is 6/16. So, almost a month later my measurments are:

TL = 8.25 (measured flaccid stretched out- outer 5.75, inner 2.5)
EL = 7.25

Outer measurment is up from 5.0 to 5.5, and now 5.75 inches. The inner skin is up .25 inches. There could be some variation on where I'm measuring the beginning of the outer skin at the base, but I'm trying to be consistent.

Total gain since initial measurments on April 22, 2005 is 1". .5 inner and .5 outer. This is primarily manual tugging several times per day, but I have been using the CAT II for several hours daily for about the last month too. I've also been using the betamethasone ointment about once daily since the end of May.

The bad part is that I'm not noticing more coverage. But that could be because of increased flaccid size with all the tugging going on.

 

[Priapologist]

I have been working to correct a loss of shaft skin length that occurred during May, while I was focused on Penis Enlargement and relegated FR to maintenance levels (or so I thought). Currently, I am back to my pre-May skin measurements, but my TL/EL ratio is 1.0 since I also gained some erect length.

Flaccid, I range from 4.25" to 6.0", with CIs of 5-6 and 2, respectively. I average about 5" with a CI of 3+ (spills over on the left, but not the right). I'm attaching a recent pic: the flaccid legth is about 4.75" and coverage is CI-4. The striking difference between this pic and my six-week pic (previously posted) is the increase in diameter. My width at my absolutely smallest flaccid length is now 1.75", which puts it at only 1/8th of an inch smaller than my last erect width measurement, and 0.5" bigger than my starting flaccid measurement, or 1.6" in flaccid girth gains in 14 weeks.

 

[MDC]

Hey Priapologist,
That's almost exactly how mine looks when it's 4.75" flaccid, and that's as small as I see it these days. Width is the same too... 1.75ish. Mine even has more coverage on the left.

I usually measure flaccid as it hangs, which gives another 3/4", but straight out it's about 4.75.

 

[Priapologist]

Hey Priapologist,
That's almost exactly how mine looks when it's 4.75" flaccid, and that's as small as I see it these days. Width is the same too... 1.75ish. Mine even has more coverage on the left.

LOL! They're twins!

 

[Priapologist]

I neglected to mention in my last post that I was back, after swearing them off, to using o-rings for restoration... all part of my chaotic approach to Penis Enlargement/FR, I guess. One interesting thing that occurred was that I couldn't use all of my old o-rings because they were too small. I started out using 3/4" and 13/16" ID rings, but now I am using predominantly 15/16" and 1" (with a 1.125" base ring), and the 15/16" are now getting to be tight.

Also, this absolutely floors me, my average flaccid volume has gone from 5.2 cubic inches on 3-17-05 to 12 cubic inches on 6-16-05

 

[MDC]

Anyone keeping track of progress here? I'd love to hear about some.

 

[phraze!]

Not bad Priapologist You can tell when completely flaccid the skin should cocver the glans for the most part kind of like mine.

 

[Priapologist]

Hey guys,

Here is a pic of my flaccid hang after 16 weeks of restoration. I took this picture at about 11 a.m. and had not worn a restoration device or keeper for approximately 13 hours.

 

[kong1971]

That's awesome! It looks very natural. Can you share your experiences with us concerning possible improved sensation, emotional feelings, whatnot. I read in another thread that you were noticing surprising jumps in flaccid girth and etc as well. Basically, tell me everything!!!

 

[MDC]

Doesn't even look too abused. Have you ever measured the skin length?

Hey guys,

Here is a pic of my flaccid hang after 16 weeks of restoration. I took this picture at about 11 a.m. and had not worn a restoration device or keeper for approximately 13 hours.

 

[Priapologist]

My latest (as of July 5th) measurements:
[words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words]: 4.75+
EL: 7.75
OL: 7.25
IL: 1
TL: 8.25

TL/EL = 1.1 or 110%

That's awesome! It looks very natural. Can you share your experiences with us concerning possible improved sensation, emotional feelings, whatnot.

Thanks
The sensitivity is good, it has been ever since I started covering all day, but I think that I am getting used to it, so it's not quite as remarkable anymore. Emotionally, man I'm loving this! Having my flaccid dick thick and covered is excellent. I will never regret doing FR or Penis Enlargement.

Cheers!
Pri

 

[kong1971]

Cool. There is a degree of "getting used to it" with the increased sensation. I have noted the same. However, if you go off your fr routine for awhile and leave the glans exposed, you definitely notice the difference. I love the look of my cock when it is covered, too. It definitely looks thicker and heavier covered up.

 

[TheExecutioner]

Of your 16 weeks of restoration (excellent progress btw) What methods have you used through out the whole journey?

 

[Priapologist]

Of your 16 weeks of restoration (excellent progress btw) What methods have you used through out the whole journey?

Thanks!

Predominantly, probably 75% of my restoration efforts, I've used o-rings. I am now up to 15 of them, which is a two inch stack. The second most practiced method is manual tugging, followed by the silicone [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and elastic bands. That's pretty much all I've used with any regularity.

 

[TheExecutioner]

That has to be the best progress I have ever seen in my life with the use of O rings. Excellent work and inspiration, keep it up!

 

[kong1971]

Checked my progress... good things!

Inner Length 2.5" (a good jump)
Outer Length 5" (same)
Total Length 7.5"
Erect Length 7.25" (must have measured wrong last time)

I'm at 103%

Pri, you and I have passed the 100 percentile. We are both seeing coverage as well. So that's where the marker is on "starting to get coverage".

Anyone else starting to get coverage?

 

[Priapologist]

That has to be the best progress I have ever seen in my life with the use of O rings. Excellent work and inspiration, keep it up!

Thanks! I think what makes the most impact is the intensive manual stretching that I do while pulling the skin through the o-rings, followed by hours of high tension (from using a ball of adhesive tape as a keeper) while the rings are on. When I do this, I get the best results. Taking the elastin-stretch model into mind, I have realized that I get the absolute best results when I am fully warmed up and have at least 20 minutes to really stretch the skin and apply the rings at a leisurely pace.

 

[Priapologist]

Pri, you and I have passed the 100 percentile. We are both seeing coverage as well. So that's where the marker is on "starting to get coverage".

Good observation. Our CI-3/CI-4 junction appears to be almost exactly at a TL/EL ratio of 1. At 0.97 I was CI-3, while at 1.01 I was early CI-4, at my average flaccid length (4.75" to 5.0"). Now at 1.10 I am a solid CI-6 at my shortest flaccid length of 4.25" (as in the last pic...not bad, given that at this length I was a mere CI-2 17 weeks ago). I also note that I was CI-2 at heavy flaccid (6.0") one month ago, but I am now a CI-3 at 6.0".

 

[King Higher]

Anyone else starting to get coverage?

*puts hand up* rofl I've not measured it, because I am not really very technically minded on this. I just know that if I stretch it a lot, I can get some fauxskin.

Oh btw, has anyone noticed that after manually stretching (particularly when pulling the skin down from about mid shaft when erect) that there is some gently flaking of skin about where the frenelum should be? It doesn't hurt, but looks nasty.

 

[kong1971]

Smegma?

I get a little smegma right behind the glans, where I am always covered up. That's about it. I'm pretty clean so it usually doesn't build up or get yucky smelling.