Lately I've been seeing alot of questions and getting private messages similar to this: "How many inches can I gain in X amount of time if I do X routine?"

I'm sure DLD hears it every day too, so I just wanted to share my thoughts on it. First of all, it's too difficult to answer that question because everyone is different and everyone does their exercises differently. A bodybuilder would never ask "how big will my arm get if I pump X iron?" because the answers would vary too much from person to person. The question usually leans towards sounding lazy too. It's often like this: "I don't have much time, so if I skip some stuff and just do X exercise, will I still gain X amount?" Well of course not; we have to put in the hard work and not trick ourselves into thinking we can get huge in a couple days. It's playing mind games with yourself and it can hurt your gains. The mental side of PE is arguably the most important. I think a strong daily routine that's kept for a long time is a great way to keep your mind focused and...

The most important thing I tell people is PUT AWAY THE RULER!
Setting a goal is a good thing, but that's not the same as setting yourself up for disappointment.

Measure yourself only after you've kept a good routine for a few months.
You can't see the tiny incremental changes from day to day, and that can mess with your head and motivation. You're working hard and you're not a damn millimeter bigger than you were last week, wtf? ARGH! I don't know about you, but I get motivated when I know I'm gaining and I'm proud that I'm sticking to my routine. Seeing no change in size can be depressing and knock me off my routine. Especially when you're first starting and you're still questioning if PE is real.

But you can see the changes over a long period of time.
A good example is how we age.
We won't really notice ourselves getting older from day to day. You don't wake up one day and say "ok well I'm old now". It happens very gradually. But sure enough one day you'll be wrinkled and there won't be a specific day you can look back upon and say "that day I gained a wrinkle".

It's the same with PE. It won't be like "that day I gained a millimeter". It'll happen over time and then you'll look back and be like "holy shit I'm an inch bigger than I was last year". :cool:

The ruler is not your friend during your routine. Put it away and Hakuna Matata. No more worries.
Stick to your routine, don't worry about how much you're going to gain, and just keep plugging along!
Then the ruler will be your best friend after you've done a hardcore routine for 3 months and you finally bust it out and see, without a doubt, a GAIN.
Good luck brothers!
 
i just hid my ruler lol ima measure in three months XD maybe 1 in a half haha but girth eevry month cuz i think im a quick gainer in girth once i get [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] i think streching will be less exhaustinhg mentally and physically but anyways if it takes me 2 years to get 2 inches idc as long as i get my goal thats all that matters
 
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tkto;612911 said:
That's ghey, dld got that in half a year
Yea that's why he's in the hall of fame and runs this business. Not everyone is the same anyway. 99% of the guys that have come and gone on here over the years never even got close to gaining an inch let alone 2. The ones the stay around and stick with it are the ones who have gained.

Let's be realistic and not scare off the noobs because they haven't grown after 3 months. A big reason why alot of men are still skeptical of PE is because of the stupid [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for the "Gain 3 inches in 30 Days" shit. And setting everyone's goals way too high is what I think is "ghey". This stuff takes a long time.

I'm really happy and proud for the guys who can gain really fast though!
 
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ok i wanna ask you a question have you done pe everyday of the 7 years ? cuz im willing to do it everyday i want my goal very bad and do you belive you couldve got the 2 inches in half the time if you did pe longer/more commitment etc
 
wakingdream!

Excellent post, very well written. I've had my ruler away for a good amount of time. Hakuna matata indeed.
And yes, we do not grow the same rate, even if two people do the same program with same intensivity. Nothing "ghey" about it, for some people change might take a bit more time. And for some less, as mentioned.

Setting a goal can be a good thing and usually is. But stressing about it, measuring often is many times counter-productive. A consistent program is the key to gains, but as so often said, in this post as well, time that it takes to reach some gains differs greatly.

Let's keep on exercising!
 
jacob5414;612931 said:
ok i wanna ask you a question have you done pe everyday of the 7 years ? cuz im willing to do it everyday i want my goal very bad and do you belive you couldve got the 2 inches in half the time if you did pe longer/more commitment etc
No I definitely took alot of breaks, sometimes even for 6 months. But that's what happens, life gets in the way.
And yes I think I would be bigger if I didn't take those breaks! No doubt
 
Excellent advice. I only suggest that men measure officially every 3 months or so this way you have time to make the temporary results become permanent. Measuring too early will always cause discouragement. I too was addicted to measuring and I found a good solution that allows me to feed the obsession without becoming discouraged. I will measure two places, erect girth I measure after every session to check for temporary gains. It is important to know that expansion is happening with each workout so this, although not official, gives me a loose understanding if the girth workout is solid. Remember, these are not permanent gains only temporary expansion, which is the oral to new gains. The other place I measure once per week is flaccid stretched, bone-pressed as length gains will manifest themselves here first so this gives the user a good idea if his length routine is productive. Again, these are not permanent gains, they are temporary and this checking is only to see the validity of the workout. Official measurements are taken after 3 months, with 24 hours of rest before the measurement to ensure good erection quality. Here is where I make the erect, bone-pressed measurement and the official erect girth measurement. If you measure this way it will never disappoint, it will only encourage you to push on.
 
ive been in a similar situation - getting so obsessed with the measurements that it would distract me from workouts, and when i didnt make quick gains i just got discouraged and didnt remain consistent. this all lead to pretty much no gains. ive pretty much kicked this habit, now i measure every month for an official gain measurement. i also sometimes measure after/ during girth work if i feel ive gotten particularly good expansion as again its a good indicator of the effectiveness of a program/ exercise. i will also measure if ive taken a few days off, to see how much has been cemented. for me this is a good balance of measuring between wanting to know what size you are, and judging the effectiveness of what youre doing
 
wakingdream;613125 said:
Alot of people don't get temporary gains, especially with stretching, so that can lead to discouragement too. Just a thought.

yeah i dont really get much from temp length. i get alot of temp girth rhough, both of these things have their ups and downs
 
wakingdream;613125 said:
Alot of people don't get temporary gains, especially with stretching, so that can lead to discouragement too. Just a thought.

For those who don't see temporary gains I guess my method would not be applicable but to those who do, it can be a good map to if excises or routine is working.
 
doublelongdaddy;613325 said:
For those who don't see temporary gains I guess my method would not be applicable but to those who do, it can be a good map to if excises or routine is working.

yeah i feel this is true, mainly for girth. measuring my expansion seems to be a direct correlation with if im going to gain
 
wakingdream;613125 said:
so that can lead to discouragement too.

To be safe. Find some type of timed safe lock thingy and put your ruler/measuring stuff in there.

timedlock.jpg


Open it and measure when it unlocks after X number of days. :blush:

or have self control.
 
I very rarely measure now - haven't taken an "officlal" full battery measuring in several months. I did a quick measure of my girth a few months ago and was right at 6.5". Solid, but nit where I want to be ... still trying to pack on that additional .5" I'm looking for. My next measurement wont be until 12:31. A good way to close out the year and set a base for next year's push.

There's no rush ...
 
jordey;613408 said:
yeah i feel this is true, mainly for girth. measuring my expansion seems to be a direct correlation with if im going to gain

That is where I find it to be most important, I like to see expansion after every workout and if I am not I know that I need to up the intensity or change the exercises.
 
doublelongdaddy;613578 said:
That is where I find it to be most important, I like to see expansion after every workout and if I am not I know that I need to up the intensity or change the exercises.

exactly. the only thing is that i tend to keep my temp expansion for a fair while, so my girth is up most of the time, i get used to it, then i take a few days off and it goes down a little once the temp expansion has gone. oh well!
 
jordey;613593 said:
exactly. the only thing is that i tend to keep my temp expansion for a fair while, so my girth is up most of the time, i get used to it, then i take a few days off and it goes down a little once the temp expansion has gone. oh well!

The thread is geared towards helping guys get over the obsessiveness of measuring. Having ways to feed this that are harmless is a good thing. So measuring girth post workout will always bring joy if you cause expansion opposed to measuring erect length, which does not show temporary gains in the same way.
 
doublelongdaddy;613875 said:
The thread is geared towards helping guys get over the obsessiveness of measuring. Having ways to feed this that are harmless is a good thing. So measuring girth post workout will always bring joy if you cause expansion opposed to measuring erect length, which does not show temporary gains in the same way.

yeah i try to stay away from length measuring as much as possible. it seems to not get any temporary gains, and for me personally it can very alot. usually my erect girth will remain consistent, within a couple mm's. however, if my pc muscle is fatigued or im not 100% aroused, or just day to day changes can cause my length to fluctuate by as much as half an inch. measuring often given this fluctuation kinda fucked with my head, and as the op is suggesting, i would advise against measuring too often!
 
Lost libido for some reason and didnt have sex much. Went from 5.5 down to a 5 incher in legnth.

Then I started dating a nympho. Decided to start pumping. In just a week im at 5.5-5.75 in legnth. Doing it everyday now for 8 min.

This stuff seems to work and im the happiest guy in the world. I just want to be average ish at 6.5 x 5.5 inches to be honest. Anyone my starting size have any maximum numbers for me to know what is possible with pumping thanks.
 
I think it depends on the level of understanding the person has of pe and how aggressively they train while using the concepts you need to understand to make a good plan that will net gains faster than someone who just takes another person's word for it. Understanding what you're doing and why it should work is really the best shot you have at making gains at any capacity.

The intensity of the work should also be taken into account. Someone who does basic jelqing because that's all they have time for probably shouldn't take on a ruler for a much longer time than someone following [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] verbatim. With [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] bi weekly measurements aren't necessarily out of line. But measuring that often on a much less intense routine is probably just going to kill your motivation.

The point isn't lost on me though. I think it's most important to measure responsibly. Consider the facts of your knowledge base and your intensity and set hard dates with that in mind. I train hard, and I've seen bi weekly results regularly. If you train lightly, measure lightly.

Just my take on the topic
 
Erection quality needs to be at 100% for an accurate measurement. If you are not getting 100% eq you will be losing size in measuring.
 
I agree but disagree. They should check up on their gains but at certain points in their PE training. Like at 3 months then after 6 months then after a year and so but always making sure to feel the intensity. But for people who can't stop the constant measuring, it should be stopped overall. Also we shouldn't putb the ruler away haha because we can use it for stretches such as for A stretches or Mandingo stretch
 
In some cases waiting three months to measure can result in you going farther than you're after. It's really easy to convince yourself you aren't gaining, so seriously, the aggressive trainers should seriously consider it.
 
ruler can be your best friend or your worst enemy,depending on results,but sometimes a session can get too intense and you are feeling great gains,you can feel a bigger penis all of a sudden you grab a ruler and what a downer you havent gained a milimeter JK
 
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Longth;636433 said:
In some cases waiting three months to measure can result in you going farther than you're after. It's really easy to convince yourself you aren't gaining, so seriously, the aggressive trainers should seriously consider it.

I'm actually thinking about going every 2-3 months now after reading this compelling thread.
 
Ya the less I measure the happier I am with my pe gains. I have been weight lifting for several years it's not like I measure my arms every night before bed that would be crazy lol
 
acromegaly;636463 said:
Ya the less I measure the happier I am with my pe gains. I have been weight lifting for several years it's not like I measure my arms every night before bed that would be crazy lol

Thankfully it easier to put an inch on your dick, than it is on your arms.
 
BornInFigi;636496 said:
Thankfully it easier to put an inch on your dick, than it is on your arms.

Aint that the truth!
 
Might be easier but it ain't no ride on a fluffy pony

If it were easy everyone would do it

We are the few, the proud, the dick torturing horse hung men of teh innerwebs
 
Longth;636529 said:
Might be easier but it ain't no ride on a fluffy pony

If it were easy everyone would do it

We are the few, the proud, the dick torturing horse hung men of teh innerwebs

It is so true, not many men would survive what we do here. You need to have determination, commitment, patience, motivation, inspiration and the ability to work hard. The ones who make massive gains have certainly deserved them.
 
BornInFigi;636609 said:
Lol. I don't think anyone can ever forget about jack

He will be back...they always come back:)
 
wakingdream;729857 said:

The Brotherhood is a comfort in many ways and I think Brothers who have been here long enough find it very hard to stay away.
 
wakingdream;612886 said:
Lately I've been seeing alot of questions and getting private messages similar to this: "How many inches can I gain in X amount of time if I do X routine?"

I'm sure DLD hears it every day too, so I just wanted to share my thoughts on it. First of all, it's too difficult to answer that question because everyone is different and everyone does their exercises differently. A bodybuilder would never ask "how big will my arm get if I pump X iron?" because the answers would vary too much from person to person. The question usually leans towards sounding lazy too. It's often like this: "I don't have much time, so if I skip some stuff and just do X exercise, will I still gain X amount?" Well of course not; we have to put in the hard work and not trick ourselves into thinking we can get huge in a couple days. It's playing mind games with yourself and it can hurt your gains. The mental side of PE is arguably the most important. I think a strong daily routine that's kept for a long time is a great way to keep your mind focused and...

The most important thing I tell people is PUT AWAY THE RULER!
Setting a goal is a good thing, but that's not the same as setting yourself up for disappointment.

Measure yourself only after you've kept a good routine for a few months.
You can't see the tiny incremental changes from day to day, and that can mess with your head and motivation. You're working hard and you're not a damn millimeter bigger than you were last week, wtf? ARGH! I don't know about you, but I get motivated when I know I'm gaining and I'm proud that I'm sticking to my routine. Seeing no change in size can be depressing and knock me off my routine. Especially when you're first starting and you're still questioning if PE is real.

But you can see the changes over a long period of time.
A good example is how we age.
We won't really notice ourselves getting older from day to day. You don't wake up one day and say "ok well I'm old now". It happens very gradually. But sure enough one day you'll be wrinkled and there won't be a specific day you can look back upon and say "that day I gained a wrinkle".

It's the same with PE. It won't be like "that day I gained a millimeter". It'll happen over time and then you'll look back and be like "holy shit I'm an inch bigger than I was last year". :cool:

The ruler is not your friend during your routine. Put it away and Hakuna Matata. No more worries.
Stick to your routine, don't worry about how much you're going to gain, and just keep plugging along!
Then the ruler will be your best friend after you've done a hardcore routine for 3 months and you finally bust it out and see, without a doubt, a GAIN.
Good luck brothers!

My rulers has been away since January 14th and I intend bringing it out by July 14th which would be 6 months later. Next month, I'm going to measure for sure and take whatever gains I made as a big achievement.
 
huge-girth;760130 said:
My rulers has been away since January 14th and I intend bringing it out by July 14th which would be 6 months later. Next month, I'm going to measure for sure and take whatever gains I made as a big achievement.

Out of sight, out of mind. The temptation of a ruler laying about can be too much for someone folks, like myself. Who I was active there were no measuring devices allowed. I did not want to see a ruler until I knew that ruler was going to show me some good news. I think I measured every 6 months.
 
doublelongdaddy;760222 said:
Out of sight, out of mind. The temptation of a ruler laying about can be too much for someone folks, like myself. Who I was active there were no measuring devices allowed. I did not want to see a ruler until I knew that ruler was going to show me some good news. I think I measured every 6 months.

I'm surely going to use a tape to measure come 14th of July because that would be 6 months. After that measurement, I will have to decide on two things, whether to intensify my length routine by adding the penilmasterpro or just combine [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] together. We will see how it goes.
 
huge-girth;760319 said:
I'm surely going to use a tape to measure come 14th of July because that would be 6 months. After that measurement, I will have to decide on two things, whether to intensify my length routine by adding the penilmasterpro or just combine [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] together. We will see how it goes.

July 14th is the big day, it is now on my official calendar that I have in my brain :) I expect big news!
 
doublelongdaddy;760376 said:
July 14th is the big day, it is now on my official calendar that I have in my brain :) I expect big news!

I will measure both erect and flaccid length on that day but no pictures.
 
huge-girth;760492 said:
I will measure both erect and flaccid length on that day but no pictures.

Be sure to get a wooden ruler too!
 
huge-girth;760623 said:
I intend getting a wooden ruler this week.

Be sure to sand the ruler to a rounded end making sure you shave off the extra .25" they add. The ruler should be 12", not 12.25". I am not sure why they do this but in PE it is helpful as while you are making the ruler a correct measurement you are rounding it off so you can press against the bone with comfort.
 
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