Thanks man, you sir are absolutely right, i def have to trim myself down. My fat pad is robbing me of at least 1.5" in lenght but it's a bitch to get rid of... I'm taking alot more care these days as diet goes, i've cut on sodas, bread and any fried stuff, and i am trimming everywhere EXCEPT the fat pad...I don't think i'll loose girth in the process however cause it's steel hard when erect and it's that way IN ALL ERECTIONS. Penis Enlargement made that happen cause i wasn'r this hard or vascular before, not in the least bit. Yeah the damn shoulder is also a bitch cause i have a type II slap tear and only the knife will do it at this point. <

Like you say, that WON'T interfere with Penis Enlargement in the least. rofl Thanks for the recomendations man, you're a good pal.
Well, i know i'm about to be flamed to death with what i'm about to say but...here it goes mate, I ALMOST NEVER WARM-UP OR DOWN, i guess i just let it heat a bit under the bed covers and do the routine. It's a VERY STUPID THING TO DO AND DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE please, this applies to EVERYONE HERE.
My girth is coming like faster than bills in the mail, and you know how fast they come. :s Lenght is lagging behind but i can see small increments, also my ligs are extremely tight and i've been working them with V-stretches, A-stretches, dld blasters ( rolex one ), TOW's and other more [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretches ( only ones i have <

) Shaft skin is def starting to show many, many stretch marks, flaccid stretch is getting longer every week. So keep up the stetching and use as much fulcrum as you can cause i found out that once i started using them i started to get more lenght. Genetics play a BIG role here but they can be overcome with hard work, and no i do not think one has to trade girth for lenght if one does both routines, what i find is that having much girth doesn't help getting lenght cause it alot more tissue to be stretched and the whole deal has to stretch, so with a thiner penis it is easier to lenghen it.
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What you say makes a lot of sense here, Mike. Thanks, pal, for the feedback. You're the best. Girth seems cemented for me too. I'll keep working on the stretches and try some new fulcrum devices (other than my wrist and thumb). I'm pretty agile so I'll throw in the footlong stretch as well. I've been approaching the stretches half-assed, so you guys always inspire me to pursue a more rigourous workout.
Sorry about that tear in the shoulder. That has to be painful.
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Man, don't even think about that, you'll get thiner on those alright, bone thin, get what i mean ??? Yes, i know you're just kidding but someone may not get the joke...:s Just puff some cronic when you're hi maybe you'll get high lenght ehehehehehe just kidding too.
Peace
Mike