dmoney101;607946 said:
Yeah they're definitely overpriced, but cheaper ones tend to fall apart. I'm sure the nice ones only cost about $15 to make but they still want $150+ for them. Fuck that.

i've only bought [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] for less then $50 i have had 2. both were very durable and never broke. both were slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. i don't think even the high priced one are made of any better quality material. they are all the same cheap simple materials
 
I bet when you try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] Lightning and DLD come up with, you'll change your opinion on cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] :P
 
dmoney101;608143 said:
I bet when you try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] Lightning and DLD come up with, you'll change your opinion on cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] :P

i dont think so only because their [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] isn't supposed to be anything like an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] according to DLD. I had an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Didn't like it b/c I consider it to not be as good as slider threaded rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] for various reasons i have mentioned before. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is a well made sturdy product but not any more so compared to my current $38 slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
youknowme123321;608823 said:
i dont think so only because their [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] isn't supposed to be anything like an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] according to DLD. I had an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Didn't like it b/c I consider it to not be as good as slider threaded rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] for various reasons i have mentioned before. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is a well made sturdy product but not any more so compared to my current $38 slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

What is the defination of cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Is it the cost 350 usd x4 vs 35 usd miracle slider, or 195 usd vs 20 usd [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on ebay. OR you say the quality.

Here is it :

1. The iron rods used in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] never fail. They all are tough to bear any pressure.
2. the plastic used in that are all of good quality in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the plastic costs nothing. ( they all use nylon no one is using teflon )
3. springs all good and has no cost. in 10 dollars usd i can get you 200 to 250 springs. see my picutre where i posted the springs. 4 srings just costed me just Rs 8 ( they only need chrome treatment more so little cost may be added ) 1 usd = 61 Rs

when i see the miracle slider i see thats the best and the most tough one for its rod are soo thick. The only disadvantage is miracle slider is that it has not springs. The spring system in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] act like shock absorbers when you move here and there hence putting little pressure on pubic bone. Shock absorbers as like in motor bikes.



what else is left in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
 
dmoney101;608143 said:
I bet when you try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] Lightning and DLD come up with, you'll change your opinion on cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] :P

What is the defination of cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Is it the cost 350 usd x4 vs 35 usd miracle slider, or 195 usd vs 20 usd [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on ebay. OR you say the quality.

Here is it :

1. The iron rods used in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] never fail. They all are tough to bear any pressure.
2. the plastic used in that are all of good quality in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the plastic costs nothing. ( they all use nylon no one is using teflon )
3. springs all good and has no cost. in 10 dollars usd i can get you 200 to 250 springs. see my picutre where i posted the springs. 4 srings just costed me just Rs 8 ( they only need chrome treatment more so little cost may be added ) 1 usd = 61 Rs

when i see the miracle slider i see thats the best and the most tough one for its rod are soo thick. The only disadvantage is miracle slider is that it has not springs. The spring system in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] act like shock absorbers when you move here and there hence putting little pressure on pubic bone. Shock absorbers as like in motor bikes.



what else is left in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

I am just waiting for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] lightining to see what new innovation has come with it. i am excited for it because some new technology has to come up after [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. New technology with higher price ready to pay. My biggest mistake when i purchased x4 gold for 350 usd . when i saw it i just said in my mind 30 usd. loooool
 
master_mind;608946 said:
What is the defination of cheap [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Is it the cost 350 usd x4 vs 35 usd miracle slider, or 195 usd vs 20 usd [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on ebay. OR you say the quality.

Here is it :

1. The iron rods used in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] never fail. They all are tough to bear any pressure.
2. the plastic used in that are all of good quality in any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the plastic costs nothing. ( they all use nylon no one is using teflon )
3. springs all good and has no cost. in 10 dollars usd i can get you 200 to 250 springs. see my picutre where i posted the springs. 4 srings just costed me just Rs 8 ( they only need chrome treatment more so little cost may be added ) 1 usd = 61 Rs

when i see the miracle slider i see thats the best and the most tough one for its rod are soo thick. The only disadvantage is miracle slider is that it has not springs. The spring system in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] act like shock absorbers when you move here and there hence putting little pressure on pubic bone. Shock absorbers as like in motor bikes.



what else is left in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

I am just waiting for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] lightining to see what new innovation has come with it. i am excited for it because some new technology has to come up after [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. New technology with higher price ready to pay. My biggest mistake when i purchased x4 gold for 350 usd . when i saw it i just said in my mind 30 usd. loooool

i agree with what you've said.

i think the people who have commented about my product being of lower quality were basing it off that fact that it is less expensive and isn'.t promoted by a specific company like [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]
 
i am ready to pay a good price and never calculate their cost for certain products which are a master peice like.

1. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] a master peice you can hardly find such a thing.
2. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] a perfect technology.
3. lg hanger.
4. bib hanger.
5. Jelq device pannile by china. i think i will buy it next month for their english manual will be launched. i had spoken to them on phone 2 months back.
6. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words]. perfect technology.

Pay heavy price for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] no way. The irony i have already purchased x4 for 350 usd. hahaha a big fool i am.
 
master_mind;608952 said:
i am ready to pay a good price and never calculate their cost for certain products which are a master peice like.

1. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] a master peice you can hardly find such a thing.
2. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] a perfect technology.
3. lg hanger.
4. bib hanger.
5. Jelq device pannile by china. i think i will buy it next month for their english manual will be launched. i had spoken to them on phone 2 months back.
6. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words]. perfect technology.

Pay heavy price for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] no way. The irony i have already purchased x4 for 350 usd. hahaha a big fool i am.
we have all bought things we shouldnt have lol. or paid to much for some things lol. i hope you at least liked the x4
 
youknowme123321;608948 said:
i agree with what you've said.

i think the people who have commented about my product being of lower quality were basing it off that fact that it is less expensive and isn'.t promoted by a specific company like [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]


yes i agree miracle slider is the best and the most tough [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. You just screw and screw and increase the g no need of springs. No maintenance cost no need to worry now i need springs of higher g.

Let me add a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words], a nice packing case, some extra strap and ..........., a good website with some doctor's picuture and comments, and market it for 150 usd to 175 usd.
 
youknowme123321;608955 said:
we have all bought things we shouldnt have lol. or paid to much for some things lol. i hope you at least liked the x4
Lol i like my x4, but whenever i think its for 350 usd i stand in front of my mirror and i see my body with the head of an ass in the mirrior. hahahah
 
Hey youknowme, after reading this thread I ordered a miracle slider, got it yesterday, seems great, I can see how double strapping would help, good idea, one question, what is that first green wrap you put on in the video, cant make it out on the audio, thanks
 
Jack Leg;608979 said:
Hey youknowme, after reading this thread I ordered a miracle slider, got it yesterday, seems great, I can see how double strapping would help, good idea, one question, what is that first green wrap you put on in the video, cant make it out on the audio, thanks

AWESOME to hear! I really like the miracle slider. always feel free to ask any questions about it.

it is sports pre wrap. it is thin soft foam wrap. get it at any sporting goods store and many drug stores where they have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] bandages, orthopedic braces, and first aid stuff.
 
youknowme123321 is it possible to use the velcro on this Miracle slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] ?
 
Commodore;610173 said:
youknowme123321 is it possible to use the velcro on this Miracle slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] ?

yes i have done it. i have found the velcro can slide off if i am very active moving around while wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] though. that is why i use paper tape usually to secure the strap in place. this happened with the velcro when i had a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for a short period of time in the past as well
 
youknowme123321;610228 said:
yes i have done it. i have found the velcro can slide off if i am very active moving around while wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] though. that is why i use paper tape usually to secure the strap in place. this happened with the velcro when i had a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for a short period of time in the past as well
I love the velcro mod I did to mine. I did it just like the picture someone posted on here. It feels comfortable and it never slips. I will say big time props to you though for mentioning the prewrap. I was having so much damn trouble with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] because it hurt like a bitch to use. I ordered some prewrap and I think that will be the missing variable.
 
tb007;611069 said:
I love the velcro mod I did to mine. I did it just like the picture someone posted on here. It feels comfortable and it never slips. I will say big time props to you though for mentioning the prewrap. I was having so much damn trouble with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] because it hurt like a bitch to use. I ordered some prewrap and I think that will be the missing variable.

yes the sports pre wrap has help me so much with comfort. when wraping for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] be sure to pull all skin down away from the glans as you apply the wrap
 
I haven't doubled up like this as I just started using a slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] a few days ago. Thanks for the vids. Wish I would have found them Before I bought the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] but I happy either way. I can tell this [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is going to really help me continue to gain. Are you still using your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at all since you have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] ?
 
damn i want to be able to quote.

Barnstool: I havent used it since getting my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I am going to try and combine the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] tonight though. if it works out ill post about it very soon
 
youknowme123321;609017 said:
AWESOME to hear! I really like the miracle slider. always feel free to ask any questions about it.

it is sports pre wrap. it is thin soft foam wrap. get it at any sporting goods store and many drug stores where they have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] bandages, orthopedic braces, and first aid stuff.

Do you think how your wrap could help me with wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] longer?
 
dreemweever;625784 said:
Do you think how your wrap could help me with wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] longer?

I haven't tried it but I definitely think it could work with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Give it a try. the materials cost less then 10$
 
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